Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)

[TonyCheong]

Although never post much but I read this thread almost every day.

With the kind of prices people pay for special services these days.
No wonder Vietnam girls are getting more and more greedy! :cool: :D

[cheatdeath]

I know local guys get bjs for 150.K. at hot tocs and cafes. As for massage, its normall for local guys to pay 150.K. for the ticket, and 500.k.-700.k. tip for fuk.
Although never post much but I read this thread almost every day.

With the kind of prices people pay for special services these days.
No wonder Vietnam girls are getting more and more greedy! :cool: :D

[Hurricane88]

Although never post much but I read this thread almost every day.

With the kind of prices people pay for special services these days.
No wonder Vietnam girls are getting more and more greedy! :cool: :D

so what kind of pricing do you think is reasonable...:confused:

think compare to BKK which you very active in...HCM still much cheaper...hehe....me pay only 200k for bbbj....hehe...:)

[Seletar]

so what kind of pricing do you think is reasonable...:confused:

think compare to BKK which you very active in...HCM still much cheaper...hehe....me pay only 200k for bbbj....hehe...:)

Nia mah !! Last week paid US150 for over night. Think is over paid, service so so only. No bj. I think the vb treats the local better than foreigners. :rolleyes:

[volcano]

Nia mah !! Last week paid US150 for over night. Think is over paid, service so so only. No bj. I think the vb treats the local better than foreigners. :rolleyes:


not really,it depends on where u find the girls...:cool:

[decent02]

When she arrived at my hotel at Along bui thi xuan, you gotto minus around 20% on her looks. But i was feasting on a boobs and butt( nice short deninm) .

Cheers!

Aiyo nearby got one ktv with happening pretty gals:D
why settle for a 6.5
hint : another road that cuts through BTX

[Luv2shacK]

thank you for sharing posts...:)

Pls do not post phone numbers openly...do you know that prostitution is illegal in Vietnam...so now cong an will be looking for her because of you...:)

I had edited the phone numbers...guys can pm him directly if you want her number...:)

Oops. Sorry. Never occur to me that cong an will read sammyboyforum...!

[JoeWhite1]

was she naked did u see her vagina? as its a common practice for transvestites to ride around that area offering "cheap" bjs...600k for a bj isnt cheap as i can find massage with bj for 300k include tip in a proper masage shop

Yes she was a genuine woman and not a LB. I saw her vagina.

I agree that I overpaid, but I was on a very short visit to HCMC from Bin Duong and was feeling horny. Basically, I wouldn't have paid so much if I had had more time to look around, but it did the job for me that day.

Perhaps you could let me know where you get your massage plus bj for 300k so I can try that on my next visit to Vietnam in a few months.

Thanks

[BobDole]

I read that some of the bros here are planning to go to Nha Trang, Hoi An etc. I came across this Chinese site full of travel blogs, tips and photos that could be helpful to you.

http://www.mafengwo.cn/travel-scenic-spot/mafengwo/16104.html

Note: I'm not affiliated with the post above.

Personally, I'm flying to HCMC tomorrow, then Nha Trang, Da Nang (covering Hue & Hoi An). It's my first time there but under the guidance of Viet relatives (by marriage - not my in-laws though). I'm sure they will want to give me a positive impression of their country therefore I don't expect any chance of hanky panky. No worries lah, like Hurricane88 said there is more than bonking in Vietnam. I look at the photos in http://www.mafengwo.cn/i/2952167.html I wish am there already.

[mutantchicken]

so what kind of pricing do you think is reasonable...:confused:

think compare to BKK which you very active in...HCM still much cheaper...hehe....me pay only 200k for bbbj....hehe...:)

are you sure you still have lobang for 200k bbbj since all your d7 shops closed now :)

[watchtower]

Hi bros, am in HCM right now until Tuesday. Pretty new to this city. Any bro want to explore together pls PM me

[iSaigon]

Sure. Nothing against us 'older' guys but you're basing this on a 'rant' shared by one girl?

I wonder if, for the sake of argument, I offered her the listening ear instead of you, she would tell me the same? Or maybe she would instead rant to me about 'younger' guys under 30 (but still older than her) hitting on her who can't provide for her nor maintain her 'material needs'. Believe it or not, usually it is the guys who are slightly older who have experience behind them, who know how to savour a woman in bed like they do a cuban cigar or a fine scotch, as opposed to younger guys who probably want to just fuck like bunnies. I am not saying this is you, just statistically speaking.

I'm 40 by the way.

Never mind about you not knowing your audience here with your posting as MC or TonyCheong have pointed out, but seriously dude, if you're already taking viagra cocktails at 30, your Operating System will be seriously f*cked by the time you're 40.

Uncle there is always tongkat ali on standby

[mutantchicken]

Summary of HCMC cheong spots

I had a opportunity to take a gentleman on a tour explore most of the hcmc hotspots so ill use that to formulate a summary of hcmc options in light of the current raids

D1 Bars
Still available but very low key, the pretty much ignore you unless you call them over and they dont offer hotel services unless you are "safe". Prices i believe 50-70 St + bf and 100+ bf LT...over all very non viable unless you dont know better. Looks ok 5-7's.nothing to say WOW.

Tourist bars
The same as usual, though i have seen a few young cuties, tho mostly older girls, again good for cheaper beers and friendlier girls, the cutie i asked about wanted 70usd St ie about 1.4mill. Fun for chatting and fliting though factoring ST hotel and questionable service again not my idea of value

Area 1 barbarshops offering sex
The shops have moved i counted 7 in total, some with 5-6 girls others with 10-12, again ranging in looks 5-7.and occasional 8..cost 600+200, for me the best option.

Area 2
This area is also foreigner exposed a total of 10 shops i counted older types more so than area 1 but again avg rnage 5-7 with a few 8's..cost is 1mill +200...given that its more expensive but the price difference is smaller ie 400k compared to the 550k or close to 100% difference..makes this now a viable alternative.

Area 3 little foreigner exposure
5-6 shops only some with 10-12 girls...these girls look more heavily made up but again teh same types of 5-7's...price 1mil +2-300k ticket.
As with area two it is now a viable option sincew area 1 price increase.

Bia om
We took a look at two on LHP, we only wanted to look at girls avail for over night, these two places offered 4-5 girls each. Admittedly we came late at 8+pm and so teh choice was limited with some 7's but motsly 5-6's. Not sure about the LT costs but i assume it would again bve the market of 100usd. The tips was 200k for girls 100k for mommy and 50-90k for the servcie staff, beers were 40k each , fruit 150k, kareoke 75k, napkins 20k...so again unles su like to sing and drink, thats not ideal.

Bia om 166
Those in the know are aware it was recently raided so its SOP has definately chjanged, when asked about girls willing to go overnight was told they cannot help, u need to determine yourself, we came at 10;30...teh girls shown was only 2 and they only 5's...seems this place has def been spolit and shoudl be avoided.

Benny
It now looks from the outside like a eatery..the girls all 4-5's, you enter and they write on a piece of paper that the ticket is 120, tipp is 200k ..320k total etc etc so this places has been ruined by foreigners

DBL
This area totally shut down, there used to be area adjacent but i didnt get a chance to look

The OTHER bbbj place in d1
This place has quite a few shops with quite a few decent girls, however be aware of the PRIVATE room scam...some may call it a scam some might. Basically if you dont specify the shared room, you will get the private room at a 50-60k surcharge ie 100-120k for normal room or 180-200k for private room, and given that the tip matches teh ticket, you total price should be 250-300k or upto 400k if u are scammed. Small money for some, or 60% extra for others. Overall a good option if you in the area.

Bo ke area...also totally closed down.

Rest of the city.
For those in the know and those with transport, its possible to find massages with the bj option for 100 ticket + 200-300 for the bj...or hot tocs with bj for 150-250k inclusive of ticket and tip..the looks of these girls are non uniform, u need luck to find the gem

[TonyCheong]

so what kind of pricing do you think is reasonable...

think compare to BKK which you very active in...HCM still much cheaper...hehe....me pay only 200k for bbbj....hehe...

The following comments are my personal opinion only.

If you talk about touristy places such as Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy and Thermae Coffeshop in Bangkok of course the price is ridiculous.
These places are mentioned frequently in forums because it's foreigner friendly.
However there're many reasonably priced cheong places frequented by Thai locals whch I partake as well.
Let the "tourists" pay tourist price. :D

For me if talking about value, VND600,000 for ST should be perfect but with the hyper inflation in Vietnam I know costs have gone up a lot.
Please pardon me for the old school pricing. :p
That's why I commented previously of the high prices that people pay for ST/LT these days.
Case in point yes the hyper inflation in Vietnam.

I'm only going to compare places with full sex service and average quality of 5-6/10 in 2014.

Txx Bxxx Barber Shop (Ho Chi Minh)
Duration: 60min
Number of Shots: 1
Price: VND800,000/S$48.48 (Rate @ 16,500)
Note: Price change in 4 years. When I just started the price is hovering around S$38-40.

Petchaburi Soapy Massage Parlour (Bangkok)
Duration: 120min
Number of Shots: 2
Price: THB1400/S$54.68 (Rate @ 25.60)
Note: Price unchanged for 10 years or more! Thai Baht is abnormally weak now due to political unrest. Even at 24.0 rate it's still only S$58.33.

Although the Bangkok one costs S$10 more but the CPF (Cost Per Fuck) is only S$29.165 as compared to the Ho Chi Minh one at S$48.48.

In conclusion I feel Ho Chi Minh is really value for money 4 years ago when compared with Bangkok.
Now it's either on par or even more expensive than Bangkok.
Readers can decide for themselves which is more value. :D

Summary of HCMC cheong spots

I had a opportunity to take a gentleman on a tour explore most of the hcmc hotspots so ill use that to formulate a summary of hcmc options in light of the current raids.

Bro mutantchicken,

Thanks for the update of the true market rate in Ho Chi Minh. :)

[cheatdeath]

I have gotten action from girls who sell things by street stalls/ve so.

I onced asked a girl who sold subs on the side of the road if she had subs for 500K, she knew what I meant, so she wrote her number down on a napkin and attach it to the sub. Called her later on at night and invited her over.

this girl in the video isnt a working girl but the girls that do sell themself hide behind disguises as such.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7-RZ0UGjFk

[mutantchicken]

The following comments are my personal opinion only.

If you talk about touristy places such as Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy and Thermae Coffeshop in Bangkok of course the price is ridiculous.
These places are mentioned frequently in forums because it's foreigner friendly.
However there're many reasonably priced cheong places frequented by Thai locals whch I partake as well.
Let the "tourists" pay tourist price. :D


Although the Bangkok one costs S$10 more but the CPF (Cost Per Fuck) is only S$29.165 as compared to the Ho Chi Minh one at S$48.48.

In conclusion I feel Ho Chi Minh is really value for money 4 years ago when compared with Bangkok.
Now it's either on par or even more expensive than Bangkok.
Readers can decide for themselves which is more value. :D


i respectfully disagree on the following points...the petchuburi gals for 1400 are a lot less attractive than the vn brothel firstly... a more accurate comparison is the girls in the 2000-2300 range..secondly unless your are of that certain ethic group or you are under 25...i cant see how you can even do two shots in 120min. Also i have noticed a increased habit of having covered bj in thai massage parlour esp the higher end ones

I believe im the originator of the cpf meaurement, and for me the fuck doesnt means per shot...a fuck is teh measure of enjoyment so a fuck could sometimes mean 1 shot or 6 shots
but if my fuck is 1-2-3hrs then a take a break of a few hours then thats the start fo the next fuck. So perse a St is 1 fuck regardless of how many shot someone makes or is allowed as i think a normal man would do one shot, and a LT would be 2 fucks, even though at times i may have had 5-6 shots perse.
If you do that ie do a cps (cost per shot) then why not do a cpt (cost per thrust) calculation.

But back to the original argument vn vs thai vs mynmarr vs camobodia vs phillipines, each cuontry has its pro and cons..some being cheaper in certain areas and more expensive for others..btw its possible to find brothel fucks for 200-300k.
The most important thing is that vn is filled with more scams and rip offs and so unless u know ur way around, then its better to go to thailand etc

[cheatdeath]

thailand and phillipines are more known for rips offs and scams than compared to VN.The most important thing is that vn is filled with more scams and rip offs and so unless u know ur way around, then its better to go to thailand etc

[mutantchicken]

I was offered 10k loan from my a bank in the mail. I ask in thailand thread because thats where I heard of it, iam not saying I know stuff about thailand.

why are a lot of you guys so strict?

I have gotten action from girls who sell things by street stalls/ve so.

I onced asked a girl who sold subs on the side of the road if she had subs for 500K, she knew what I meant, so she wrote her number down on a napkin and attach it to the sub. Called her later on at night and invited her over.

this girl in the video isnt a working girl but the girls that do sell themself hide behind disguises as such.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7-RZ0UGjFk

thailand and phillipines are more known for rips offs and scams than compared to VN.

anyone know where in viet nam I can rent a nice yacht, and what the rates are?

I have always wanted to bang a hottie on a nice yacht.

I really enjoy baning in public, but your doggy style must be real good for it to be enjoyable. An really good doggy style means a lot of stength and stamina involved.

Re: Bangkok Protests affecting tourists?
with all the protesters it would be so easy to meet girls, talk a little politics, get them all wild and bonk for free.

Re: Guangzhou ... New Chapter
Hi guys, I have never been to guangzhou, but heard from many who have gone tell me that the cost of food and dinning is fairly cheap.

Something like $1USD could get you a decent meal for one.

look at this guys post history does anyone really take you seriously, it sounds like you are a 16yr old kid at most 20, never left your mothers skirt and everything you say is something your hear or based on hearsay...clearly u never been to thai otherwise you wouldnt ask those things you did in the thai thread...and clearly you have never dealth with viet whores also

[Hurricane88]

However there're many reasonably priced cheong places frequented by Thai locals whch I partake as well.
Let the "tourists" pay tourist price. :D

For me if talking about value, VND600,000 for ST should be perfect but with the hyper inflation in Vietnam I know costs have gone up a lot.
Please pardon me for the old school pricing. :p
That's why I commented previously of the high prices that people pay for ST/LT these days.
Case in point yes the hyper inflation in Vietnam.

I'm only going to compare places with full sex service and average quality of 5-6/10 in 2014.

Txx Bxxx Barber Shop (Ho Chi Minh)
Duration: 60min
Number of Shots: 1
Price: VND800,000/S$48.48 (Rate @ 16,500)
Note: Price change in 4 years. When I just started the price is hovering around S$38-40.

Petchaburi Soapy Massage Parlour (Bangkok)
Duration: 120min
Number of Shots: 2
Price: THB1400/S$54.68 (Rate @ 25.60)
Note: Price unchanged for 10 years or more! Thai Baht is abnormally weak now due to political unrest. Even at 24.0 rate it's still only S$58.33.

Although the Bangkok one costs S$10 more but the CPF (Cost Per Fuck) is only S$29.165 as compared to the Ho Chi Minh one at S$48.48.

In conclusion I feel Ho Chi Minh is really value for money 4 years ago when compared with Bangkok.
Now it's either on par or even more expensive than Bangkok.
Readers can decide for themselves which is more value. :D


thank you for your post to compare BKK and HCM...think your honest opinion is great for newbies...:)

a few other factors to add which weigh heavily on me...and you knew I am reading all Thai threads daily....hotel cost in BKK and air tickets to and from BKK are very costly...my hotel in hcm is only SGD 20 per day and ticket less than SGD 150.00...in fact i had 2 tickets coming up only SGD 100.40....^^

anyway I hardly chiong and had my own lobang after years travelling to hcm...prefer to take it easy and hunt slowly...I will be in Wetnam for one month sometime this year...will travel and tour the nice places...also will meet friends who I am keen to meet...^^

[Hurricane88]

Summary of HCMC cheong spots

Rest of the city.
For those in the know and those with transport, its possible to find massages with the bj option for 100 ticket + 200-300 for the bj...or hot tocs with bj for 150-250k inclusive of ticket and tip..the looks of these girls are non uniform, u need luck to find the gem

thank you MC for the update...hehe...:)

[cheatdeath]

Mutant you are dislikedd in other websites, so dont come to me and talk about being taken seriously. Its been known in the monger circles/other monger websites to stay away from mutant chicken so please dont come to me and talk about being taken seriously.
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look at this guys post history does anyone really take you seriously, it sounds like you are a 16yr old kid at most 20, never left your mothers skirt and everything you say is something your hear or based on hearsay...clearly u never been to thai otherwise you wouldnt ask those things you did in the thai thread...and clearly you have never dealth with viet whores also

[mutantchicken]

Mutant you are dislikedd in other websites, so dont come to me and talk about being taken seriously. Its been known in the monger circles/other monger websites to stay away from mutant chicken so please dont come to me and talk about being taken seriously.

the reason im DISLIKED is because im known as the guy with legit info but i refuse to share with freeeloaders...look at your points, negative as everyone knows your full of crap...look at the quality of your posts..just rubbish, i dont need to elaborate any further

BTW FR price inflation generally or it it because of tet
As i metioned early, places that i paid 200k for a bbbj have become 300k places.
Today i did a cold call on a suspected hot toc, there was a older but still attractive milf available, she was attractive till she opened her mouth and exposed her crooked teeth hahah but still prob a 5.5 in looks.
Anway i knew the ticket was 100k so i figured a tip would be 100-150k. The bj was pretty good not so much deep throat but lots of ball and shaft licking, made me cum pretty fast and she was very accessable..she even offered to fuck for 500k, i was tempetd till i saw the stretch marks on her stomach...anway afetr i came i said she wanst to get paid here or down stairs she said here so i tested her with 200k saying she can pay teh ticket for me also...she countered by saying the bj was 200k i still need to pay 100k...so in teh end i said hers 50k extra...im leaving...so in the end 250k for a pretty good bj by a older type..not exactly bad value nor is it good...as i can get other but further places for 150k-200k from younger girls or go into d1 and get a 300k bj from a 18yr old.

But thats the breaks when your are a pioneer looking for new places

[bolueeleh]

haha cost per thrust, then i surely luigi :D

[volcano]

dunno BKK cheaper or Hcmc cheaper...never chiong in BKK for abt 10 years already...:)

but one thing for sure is that young gals in Hcmc are getting wilder nowadays...:D

[Singkieu]

...I believe im the originator of the cpf meaurement, and for me the fuck doesnt means per shot...a fuck is teh measure of enjoyment so a fuck could sometimes mean 1 shot or 6 shots
but if my fuck is 1-2-3hrs then a take a break of a few hours then thats the start fo the next fuck. So perse a St is 1 fuck regardless of how many shot someone makes or is allowed as i think a normal man would do one shot, and a LT would be 2 fucks, even though at times i may have had 5-6 shots perse.
If you do that ie do a cps (cost per shot) then why not do a cpt (cost per thrust) calculation...

IMO the Cost-per-Fuck (CPF) quotient can be defined as the "total monetary investment in the enjoyment of sex worked out on a per shot basis, with time investment ignored".

Therefore, if you took a girl out for dinner and drinks and then took her to bed and had x shots with her before sending her home in the morning, then the CPF would be, in simple terms:

CPF = (Cost of Dinner + Cost of Drinks + Cost of Petrol if applicable + Cost of Taxi fares if applicable) / x

However, as I added the clarification of "time investment ignored", this will affect the true meaning of the CPF if, for example, you had to go on 3 dates with the subject until she allowed you to fuck her on the 3rd date. Then the CPF in that case will not reflect the costs involved in the two previous dates, unless you specifically add those in.

What doesn't change however, is that it should be the goal of any true 'cheongster' (and if you are on this forum to begin with, you are likely to be at least a cheongster) to achieve a CPF of zero, although by the pure definition above alone, this is near impossible because of the time investment involved (which IMO can almost never be zero).

Therefore, perhaps MC or some of you here have suggestions on fine-tuning the definition? Comments welcome.

[TonyCheong]

i respectfully disagree on the following points...the petchuburi gals for 1400 are a lot less attractive than the vn brothel firstly... a more accurate comparison is the girls in the 2000-2300 range..secondly unless your are of that certain ethic group or you are under 25...i cant see how you can even do two shots in 120min. Also i have noticed a increased habit of having covered bj in thai massage parlour esp the higher end ones.

No worries everyone is entitled to their own opinions.

1) I can find on average same standard Petchaburi Soapy Massage girls (THB1400) with those Txx Bxxx Barber Shop girls.
2) I'm over 25 years old and I don't need ED pills (for now! :eek:).
3) I always do 2 shots within 120mins in Thailand Massage Parlours.
4) BBBJ in Bangkok Soapy Massage Parlours still can be had but I do agree 50% will only do CBJ. You just have to go to places that provide mandatory BBBJ service.

Ok that's all I'd like to add on and shall not dwell on technicalities.
I rest my case. :D

hotel cost in BKK and air tickets to and from BKK are very costly...my hotel in hcm is only SGD 20 per day and ticket less than SGD 150.00...in fact i had 2 tickets coming up only SGD 100.40....^^

Ho Chi Minh Hotels (2 Stars) I dare say yes it's cheaper than Bangkok Hotels (2 Stars).

As for air ticket prices.
Distance from Singapore to Ho Chi Minh is nearer than Bangkok.
I think it's reasonable to say that we cannot expect Bangkok air tickets to be cheaper than Ho Chi Minh air tickets?

[naemlo]

No worries everyone is entitled to their own opinions.

Just move on :D No point finding the truth about which city is cheaper or more expensive.... Come to PP, no need to compare.... it is definitely cheaper. U come, I pay for 4 gers to serve u. :eek: Confirm your legs soft, no soft another 4 gers.

[TonyCheong]

Come to PP, no need to compare.... it is definitely cheaper. U come, I pay for 4 gers to serve u. :eek: Confirm your legs soft, no soft another 4 gers.

Wow Phnom Penh so hiong! :D :p

[mutantchicken]

IMO the Cost-per-Fuck (CPF) quotient can be defined as the "total monetary investment in the enjoyment of sex worked out on a per shot basis, with time investment ignored".

Therefore, if you took a girl out for dinner and drinks and then took her to bed and had x shots with her before sending her home in the morning, then the CPF would be, in simple terms:

CPF = (Cost of Dinner + Cost of Drinks + Cost of Petrol if applicable + Cost of Taxi fares if applicable) / x

However, as I added the clarification of "time investment ignored", this will affect the true meaning of the CPF if, for example, you had to go on 3 dates with the subject until she allowed you to fuck her on the 3rd date. Then the CPF in that case will not reflect the costs involved in the two previous dates, unless you specifically add those in.

What doesn't change however, is that it should be the goal of any true 'cheongster' (and if you are on this forum to begin with, you are likely to be at least a cheongster) to achieve a CPF of zero, although by the pure definition above alone, this is near impossible because of the time investment involved (which IMO can almost never be zero).

Therefore, perhaps MC or some of you here have suggestions on fine-tuning the definition? Comments welcome.

well for me the cost per fuck would include the "time factor" as thats the real cost of getting her in the bed..so if i took her on 3 dates of 300k inclusive of everything except negligibles eg fuel i even include the hotel room ... and on the third date i get to fuck her, and even though i was quite horney that day and managed to get 3 shots in that 3hr sex romp with her my cpf would still be 900k, as for me its the average performance, next time i might only manage 1 shot, or what about the time where i am only interested in eating her pussy and not have any shots, or maybe i fuck her 5 times but manage to delay my ejaculation in order to please and sexually satisfy her and by the end of the day im way to tired to finally even cum...in those time where i dont cum but fuck 5 or 6 tiems does that mean my cpf is infinate?

A cpf where u actually calculate teh number of shots fired suits young pre-mature ejaculators or cheap charlies who want to cum as much as possible.
I use the cpf as a measuring yard to see whether this particular girl is giving me the run around as the normal cpf for a freelance in hcmc is 500k.
So if my cpf running tally for some girl im dating is running at 1-2mill, and she giving me attitude, then i know to press the ecape button.
The cpf is merely used as a quantitative tool to keep things in perspective.

[mutantchicken]

No worries everyone is entitled to their own opinions.

1) I can find on average same standard Petchaburi Soapy Massage girls (THB1400) with those Txx Bxxx Barber Shop girls.
2) I'm over 25 years old and I don't need ED pills (for now! :eek:).
3) I always do 2 shots within 120mins in Thailand Massage Parlours.
4) BBBJ in Bangkok Soapy Massage Parlours still can be had but I do agree 50% will only do CBJ. You just have to go to places that provide mandatory BBBJ service.

Ok that's all I'd like to add on and shall not dwell on technicalities.
I rest my case. :D
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this issue where u can CUM twice in 2 hrs is that cumming ..not getting an erection twice..sure i could prob get ist 3-4 times but i couldnt cum twice in that time as i really have to get excited by a girl to cum...oversexed would be my excuse. I have has SMOKING hot girls for overnight and i would fuck her 5-6 times that night each fuck lasting 30-40 mins but only manage to CUM once.

[mutantchicken]

Just move on :D No point finding the truth about which city is cheaper or more expensive.... Come to PP, no need to compare.... it is definitely cheaper. U come, I pay for 4 gers to serve u. :eek: Confirm your legs soft, no soft another 4 gers.

well yeah pp relaively cheaper but when u do a cpf based on my parameters, ie drinks +bf + payment, factor in how they reluctant to give bj, and the fact that i couldnt even find ONE acceptible girl in ALL the 3-4 fishbowl massage places i went to and i found it difficult to find a acceptable one the many bars in pp, i ended up getting a "freebie" vietnamese bar girl, so that skews the cpf quotient for cambodia

[Singkieu]

well for me the cost per fuck would include the "time factor" as thats the real cost of getting her in the bed..so if i took her on 3 dates of 300k inclusive of everything except negligibles eg fuel i even include the hotel room ... and on the third date i get to fuck her, and even though i was quite horney that day and managed to get 3 shots in that 3hr sex romp with her my cpf would still be 900k, as for me its the average performance, next time i might only manage 1 shot, or what about the time where i am only interested in eating her pussy and not have any shots, or maybe i fuck her 5 times but manage to delay my ejaculation in order to please and sexually satisfy her and by the end of the day im way to tired to finally even cum...in those time where i dont cum but fuck 5 or 6 tiems does that mean my cpf is infinate?

A cpf where u actually calculate teh number of shots fired suits young pre-mature ejaculators or cheap charlies who want to cum as much as possible.
I use the cpf as a measuring yard to see whether this particular girl is giving me the run around as the normal cpf for a freelance in hcmc is 500k.
So if my cpf running tally for some girl im dating is running at 1-2mill, and she giving me attitude, then i know to press the ecape button.
The cpf is merely used as a quantitative tool to keep things in perspective.

Ok agreed. Good way of incorporating the time factor.

So therefore the definition of CPF should be then, 'Total monetary outlay on subject until sex happens with subject', or:

Σ(Expenses on subject) i=1, n=sex with subject

Now the question is, and using your example, how to reflect the difference between a case where the time period between date #1 and date #3 is 2 weeks, and a case where the time period between date #1 and date #3 is 3 months, assuming both have a CPF of VND 900k?

[mutantchicken]

Ok agreed. Good way of incorporating the time factor.

So therefore the definition of CPF should be then, 'Total monetary outlay on subject until sex happens with subject', or:

Σ(Expenses on subject) i=1, n=sex with subject

Now the question is, and using your example, how to reflect the difference between a case where the time period between date #1 and date #3 is 2 weeks, and a case where the time period between date #1 and date #3 is 3 months, assuming both have a CPF of VND 900k?

the issue isnt time but the reasons why..there was such a time elapse..eg if i spent x dongs then i said it was pointless and i gave up, then she reinitiated contact with me showing her interest, it might be possible to reset the counter, but in most cases i would just add the first date as part of the ongoing tally. However if tere was a time lapse of 3 mths and it was due to use being busy then i would just continue with the tally, so over all it doenst make a difference whether the time lapse is 3 days or 3 mths, the tally keep on running
The point of keeping a cpf tally for ME is to determine whether this particular girls is worth teh effort.
My personal view is that in regards to women paid sex and love is mutually exclusive. I refuse to romance whores, just as i think its immoral to try and get freebies from whores.
Normal girls are meant to be loved, and thus involves the investment of time, affection etc.
Whore are meant for sex then paying them...whilst still treating them as a human being worthy of respect, just dont love them

I was aware of this theory from my own experiences, but someone put it into words, tehre are 5 genral aspects of love
1. Physical sex
2. Non sexual touching also teh pleasure of being with someone attractive
3. languange and communication, sweet tallking/verbal emotions
4 Emotional expressed by doing things for your loved one
5. Buying stuff and giving them money

I have always and aim to use the above four aspects to get my women, obviously as i get older and more unttratcive iu wioll have to use #5 more. But as it is with ALL my gfs i basically maintain them on less than 2 mill a month, and a cpf of about 200k.

So where i use the cpf is where the girls im dating is costing me more than the cpf of a freelancer..where im expected to not romance and not provide the 4 aspects, and just provide #5.
So if teh girl im dating is both costing me more than a freelancer AND i need to do #1-4, plus she is giving me attitude, then clearly i need a exit plan.

The examples i use is when guys talk about getting freebies and they spend the whole days sweet talking a girl, praising her putting her on a pedestal..walk around talking her shopping holding her purchases, taking her to a nice restaurant, and tehn she is giving him attitude, and after that he gets to fuck her overnite and when you work out teh cpf is 2mill...wtf id rather just pay a girl 2mill and not do all that shit!!!
Thats where the cpf quotient comes into play...its not so i can be a cheap charlie and say yeah i fucked her 6 times that night and so 2mill/6 is 350k and so yeah i got a good deal.

Im not a fucken sex deprived guy where i can cum more than 2x in a night so my cpf would be based on 2 shots for a overnight, regardless if that particualr time i did cum 6 times.
To do a cost per shot analysis would bring forth stupid scenarios where for example she let me cum 1 but during the night i woke up whilse she was sleeping and i masturbated 10 times so would that mean i shot 11 times?

[naemlo]

Wow Phnom Penh so hiong! :D :p

Not hiong... dun worry. End of the night, your kuku still in 1 piece.

well yeah pp relaively cheaper but when u do a cpf based on my parameters, ie drinks +bf + payment, factor in how they reluctant to give bj, and the fact that i couldnt even find ONE acceptible girl in ALL the 3-4 fishbowl massage places i went to and i found it difficult to find a acceptable one the many bars in pp, i ended up getting a "freebie" vietnamese bar girl, so that skews the cpf quotient for cambodia

It is the same in every city... if u know where to find, u will enjoy it. As a tourist who stays in a city for a week, u will tend to explore only a small part of the fun.

Same in HCMC, as a tourist, HBT is the easiest but also crappy service n expensive.

[Singkieu]

...The point of keeping a cpf tally for ME is to determine whether this particular girls is worth teh effort.
My personal view is that in regards to women paid sex and love is mutually exclusive. I refuse to romance whores, just as i think its immoral to try and get freebies from whores.
Normal girls are meant to be loved, and thus involves the investment of time, affection etc.
Whore are meant for sex then paying them...whilst still treating them as a human being worthy of respect, just dont love them...

...I have always and aim to use the above four aspects to get my women, obviously as i get older and more unttratcive iu wioll have to use #5 more. But as it is with ALL my gfs i basically maintain them on less than 2 mill a month, and a cpf of about 200k.

So where i use the cpf is where the girls im dating is costing me more than the cpf of a freelancer..where im expected to not romance and not provide the 4 aspects, and just provide #5.
So if teh girl im dating is both costing me more than a freelancer AND i need to do #1-4, plus she is giving me attitude, then clearly i need a exit plan...

The point of keeping a CPF tally should be similar for anyone - is the subject worth the effort or not?

I agree on your point about how one should keep 'regular' girlfriends and whores separate because of the distinction between love and paid sex. That's why the CPF is powerful because it transcends this distinction - you can use/apply the CPF in both cases - love and paid sex.

Last point of clarification - when you said you maintain your girlfriends on less than VND2M a month, so basically it means you have 2 girlfriends that you see fives times a month each = 2 x 5 x CPF of VND200k = VND 2M?

[mutantchicken]

The point of keeping a CPF tally should be similar for anyone - is the subject worth the effort or not?

I agree on your point about how one should keep 'regular' girlfriends and whores separate because of the distinction between love and paid sex. That's why the CPF is powerful because it transcends this distinction - you can use/apply the CPF in both cases - love and paid sex.

Last point of clarification - when you said you maintain your girlfriends on less than VND2M a month, so basically it means you have 2 girlfriends that you see fives times a month each = 2 x 5 x CPF of VND200k = VND 2M?

no that figure is MAXIMUMS i generally get a new gf every 3 months so 4 a year, been here about 5 yrs so close to 15-20 gfs, I HAVE NEVER given these gf EVER more than 3mill a month sporadically, ie some months i help them other months they dont ask i dont give in fact most girls dont ask.

Thats the first point, ie i dont give a monthly allowance like what other guys do.
Secondly my dates on avgerage cost 200k a date sometimes more sometimes less eg today i too my gf to chao goi vit..cost 90k then i went back to my house for a bonk. Othertimes i took her to seafood, cost 1mill. But on average a date will cost me 200k, and afterwards we often have sex, sometimes i cum othertimes i like just pleasing her or to feel myself inside her but not wanting to exerte myself till i cum. So without going through the hassle of using a calculator, i can say my cpf is generally about 200k.

With new girls again, my SOP is 1 date coffee, 100k, second date dinner 200k, third date dinner or movie etc 200-300k, then i bonk...so tally that is 600k/2 so again my cpf is 300k or their abouts. This is a general off the cuff calculations.

Generally my comments are made as a average, ie MOSTLY i dont give money, and when i do its justified, for example my gf needed to borrow 2 mill as she wanted to but a 7.5 mill bike, as she had to return her sisters, and as she worked as a PR she needed to travel during work etc. I gave her 2.5 mill as a once off.
And i suppose because i gave her this 2.5 mill, i am less likely to take her to the movies or things she likes, but in terms of dinner I always take girls to places i like, when i end up at touristy places its mostly because i was misled..see my nuoc suong marina comment.

I dont run gfs in parallel, i run them in series and i see my gf 3-4 times a week with bonks prob 8-12 times a month.

There have been obviously bad situations but i can generally feel that out when i talking to her before i meet for coffee, or whilst im having coffee. The last "bad" experience was 1.x mill dinner at nuoc suong marina..after that i didnt contact her again

another point of clarification regards the cpf for ME is this. The costs included in MY cpf may be different from yours.
Eg when i take them to dinner i only calculate 1/2 the cost as i would have to eat myself, however if i was pressured to taking to a restaurant i wouldnt otherwise go myself then i would calculate the WHOLE cost as in my mind that was of very little benefit to me, likewise iof i went to KTV or disco, the ENTIRE cost of the night would be calculated into the cpf as i get nothing from standing around getting drunk listening to bad loud music..surrounded by social misfits who have to pay for girls company and attention. I draw the line at paying for sex, but i refuse to pay for a girls attention and her non sexual company.

[bolueeleh]

Wow Phnom Penh so hiong! :D :p

hiong doesnt mean good, imagine fucking a "20" year old fm the alley brothel, when missionary style holding up the legs, u can see feet no wash, body has stale sweat smell, 1 time only, never again, i rather pay 3 times more, more enjoyment. :(

[Hurricane88]

hiong doesnt mean good, imagine fucking a "20" year old fm the alley brothel, when missionary style holding up the legs, u can see feet no wash, body has stale sweat smell, 1 time only, never again, i rather pay 3 times more, more enjoyment. :(

haha...we always never know who had went in or under before you...better be safe than be sorry...:)

[mutantchicken]

hiong doesnt mean good, imagine fucking a "20" year old fm the alley brothel, when missionary style holding up the legs, u can see feet no wash, body has stale sweat smell, 1 time only, never again, i rather pay 3 times more, more enjoyment. :(

stale sweat full of pheromones makes u feel virile..and unwashed feet... u plan to suck her toes ? hahah...seem not bad for me if she HOT 20yr old and if she was reciprocating my ardour...

[bolueeleh]

stale sweat full of pheromones makes u feel virile..and unwashed feet... u plan to suck her toes ? hahah...seem not bad for me if she HOT 20yr old and if she was reciprocating my ardour...

your english very chim, luckily got google :D
not even close, she only keep on saying "ge ge" "quick quick"
i say never again becoz of 2 things, 1 - dirty like hell, 2 - she say 20 but down below only hv few "whiskers" :eek: i dont want end up eating black bean rice

[bolueeleh]

haha...we always never know who had went in or under before you...better be safe than be sorry...:)

i always have protection :D, hiong in this case i meant go to back alley chicken house, becoz they were talking abt CPF, those back alley chicken house u can get for 10$ 1 shot, but i bring her back to hotel room, so paid for 25$ LT, but after 1 round i ask her go back, i want to do "scrub down" in the bathroom.

[S.B.Y.1]

I pay for 4 gers to serve u. :eek: Confirm your legs soft, no soft another 4 gers.

Can extend this offer to Pak ;)

[naemlo]

Can extend this offer to Pak ;)

Put date, put time... sure song song kao jurong...

[TonyCheong]

Haha Pak S.B.Y.1 go for it! :p

[S.B.Y.1]

Put date, put time... sure song song kao jurong...

Sure bo :D

Haha Pak S.B.Y.1 go for it! :p

Pak's a One Man Woman :p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fY8kyWUNIPY

Best Pak lari jauh2 if not Abang Hurricane88 hantam Pak here

[TonyCheong]

Pak's a One Man Woman. :p

Pak S.B.Y.1 I've a good feeling I've met you before many donkey years ago! :eek: :p

[S.B.Y.1]

Pak S.B.Y.1 I've a good feeling I've met you before many donkey years ago! :eek: :p

At Johore Road back in the 70's :eek: :D

[TonyCheong]

At Johore Road back in the 70's :eek: :D

That's too far back! :eek: :p

[devilfea]

Will be in HCM staying at A&EM from 23rd to 26th this month. Any newbies there wanna explore together?

[volcano]

9 more days to Tet,this week gonna be the last week where the city is flooded with "hungry" girls...:D

[mutantchicken]

Will be in HCM staying at A&EM from 23rd to 26th this month. Any newbies there wanna explore together?

This is just some idle commentry about some of the things i have read or heard written and spoken by samsters i have met or just read about.

This is not directed at anyone in specific nor am i targeting the person im quoting.

The word explore is generally accepted as the following
1. To investigate systematically; examine:
2. To search into or travel in for the purpose of discovery:

Whilst its possible that a bunch of hcmc newbies could be doing the former, ie find things in the city that "they" dont know about personally, but id doubt they would have the capacity or the "balls" to explore and discover things unknown by the general samster population that hasnt taken a copy if h88 list which is prob over 10yr old. So when i read that post im thinking the blind leading the blind to ripoff and carrot chop places.

As part of my touring service, i constantly get asked the question where can xyz find the HOTTEST girls..and how much is it or is it possible to fuck them with xyz. Well the first part is i dont know what is teh meaning of HOTTEST..i mean tehre are plenty of actresses and singers and modela who i think is attractive but no more so than some of the 200k bbbj girls i have used. Secondly when i tell them i cant see how if they have a daily budget of 6k usd they cant get the pick of the litter of hcmc girls they balk...i mean whats teh point of telling me they want the HOTTEST girls and are willing to spend money but then they baulk at that figure. Seems they think that they should be able to get 10's for 100usd overight.

I had also another regular samster to me complain how he tired of seducing ktv girls..how it was no challenge...this guy would pay teh amrket rates for overnight...then add on the 1-2mill incidentals it costs to access these girls at ktv and his cpf for a overnight is like close to 5mill ie a cpf of 2mill+ and he comlaining its not a challenge?
Ofcourse its not a challange because EVERY foreigner should be able to fuck if they spend 2mill further EVERY guys should have that much money to spend if they so choose.
So when i answered that if he wants a challenge he should give himself a false budget of daily 300k to get a bonk. Obviously when i give him this target this "playa" doesnt rise to the challenge.
This smaster also has been targeting cafe girls, one of his targets i also know, and when i have seen them together she shows about as much interest in him as i show my dirty socks. But this guy has no idea, she even told me that she sees him only as a customer, but he wontg take the hints and keeps on chasing.
This samsters seems to think haveing lots of targets is something admirable..NOT true, its how many girls and teh quality of girls that target YOU, not your money, that is the thing worth being proud about.

Those who have read my posts prob realise im stingy or a cheap charlie, most prob falsely assume im poor. Thats ok, but the reason i go to these cheap places are this.
1. When u do find a gem ist makes it so much sweeter
2. When you explore liek i do, its alot of misses b4 u get a hit so the misses dont add up to much if its a cheaper place.

Eg. I was touring a guy to some of the brothels, and in this area the fuck isnt automatic, seems like some girls may only offer hj or bj. I wasnt aware of that "my bad"..but after he came out to complain i then had to pay 200 foir the stardard ticket and then i tipped 200 for teh hj, maybe if he was alone they would have demanded and made trouble if he didnt pay 1mill. My point is a possible expensive MISS, could have been 1.2 mill but only ended up being 400k
Later i took him to the d1 bbbj places...bad service and bad attitude in teh room from teh girl..anoother miss but only 400k miss

NOW when i go to my cheap places, if its a miss it may only be 150k loss, or maybe at most 200k.
But look at the hits.
One time i found a 9 at a bbbj cafe sure the looks was good but service was bad...but having s 19yr old 9 suck your dick badly at teh cost of 100k makes it worth it esp when u can feel her breats and young pussy.
I found some pretty 8's in teh d8 bbbbj cafe until they go closed, again 100k cost.
Yesterday i was exploring d12 and hoc mon...at 1pm i went into cafe om...found a 19yr old 7...i knew it would be something unsual when instead of pulling down her pants and cleaning my dick she straddled me and was kissing me. It ended up with me finger fucking and eating her young pussy and her fucking my face. I knew if i was a idiot i could have bb fucked her as she was so worked up , but in the end she gave me a excellent return bj. cost 120k but i gave extra 80k tip.
A few hours later i visited a hot toc where a 20yr old gave me a decent and cheerful bj, technique wanst great i couldnt cum but again she was a n ice girl 7 again in looks, cost 150k
on the way home i spotted another cafe om inside where two 8s, i chose the younger looking one she looked 17, tyhe other one loosk 18. She wasnt freindly kind shy'ish wasnt unfriendly but reserved. Anyway really perky firm tits a great barely hair pussy and a "bad" bj, but all the good parts like a angelic face and young firms tits and pussy...definate worth the 120k cost.

So for all the guys who want to make out they are someone special because they can have access to certain girls for xyz dollars, unless u talking about 10k usd a shot girls, but if you talking about catwalk type girls, then sorry most guys would have access to those girls if they willing to spend that money. I get teh comment that using money somehow gets u a different higher class type of girl...and thats the misomer, if you fall for that false advertising then you would fall for anything

But you will never have access to my cheapies as you will never know how to find these girls.

Another points tehre is a nice samster i know, when i found out he recently went to cambodia i asked him how his trip was, it turns out he went tehre to visit his girl..after finding out some details about his girl he tried to tell me she was a good "normal" girl...but things didnt add up...anyway it turns out that he met her when she was a KTV girls in SINGAPORE, but supposedly back in her own country she was a normal gal kakak...so that enough was a distinction where he could create a illusion that HE WASNT dating a whore.

[bolueeleh]

Yesterday i was exploring d12 and hoc mon...at 1pm i went into cafe om...found a 19yr old 7...i knew it would be something unsual when instead of pulling down her pants and cleaning my dick she straddled me and was kissing me. It ended up with me finger fucking and eating her young pussy and her fucking my face. I knew if i was a idiot i could have bb fucked her as she was so worked up , but in the end she gave me a excellent return bj. cost 120k but i gave extra 80k tip.
A few hours later i visited a hot toc where a 20yr old gave me a decent and cheerful bj, technique wanst great i couldnt cum but again she was a n ice girl 7 again in looks, cost 150k
on the way home i spotted another cafe om inside where two 8s, i chose the younger looking one she looked 17, tyhe other one loosk 18. She wasnt freindly kind shy'ish wasnt unfriendly but reserved. Anyway really perky firm tits a great barely hair pussy and a "bad" bj, but all the good parts like a angelic face and young firms tits and pussy...definate worth the 120k cost.


3 BJ in 1 day? got blood come out? :D

[bolueeleh]

Another points tehre is a nice samster i know, when i found out he recently went to cambodia i asked him how his trip was, it turns out he went tehre to visit his girl..after finding out some details about his girl he tried to tell me she was a good "normal" girl...but things didnt add up...anyway it turns out that he met her when she was a KTV girls in SINGAPORE, but supposedly back in her own country she was a normal gal kakak...so that enough was a distinction where he could create a illusion that HE WASNT dating a whore.

my girl in sihanoukville also stop working in KTV, i am also creating this illusion of mine, :p

[Khungkhung]

Hi to all bros here. I'm in vietnam for the 3rd year alr is there a new ruling that we can't make visa for three months straight now can only 1 month cos for this pass three months I have been only extending it every month through my agent

[cheatdeath]

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I found an article in the paper that tells you where to pick up working girls and at which coffe shop, but its in vietnamese.

I have met a lot and bonked of girls through this method. These girls only go with customers they know, so you have to know how to speak a little bit of vietnamese. so basicly go to the coffee shops above, order coffee, pick a girl you like, chat with her, tip her 100k, make a 2nd visit by now she knows you well enough, get her number, wait until she is off work, then take her to a hotel near by.

[HeyB]

I found an article in the paper that tells you where to pick up working girls and at which coffe shop, but its in vietnamese.

thanks cheatdeath, interesting article :D

[cheatdeath]

at the end of the article it mentions that the girls in these shops dont go with people they dont know, its seems that this measure is to prevent situations where cong an could arrest the both of you. If this measure works well, it practically commercializes the coffe shop sex trade in viet nam.

local guys with money who know how to speak vietnamese would have a hareem of women to choose from because of the huge selection of coffee shops in viet nam.thanks cheatdeath, interesting article :D

[phighter]

cheatdeath - nice article. got a question, is there a way to distinguish between the regular cafe's where there are pretty girls (but they dont go home with you) and these types of cafes?

[cheatdeath]

In the article it mentions something about the way the girls are dressed. If you see coffeshops with girls showing a lot of leg and cleavage you know these girls will do work on the side. If you go to shops with loud music and dark lighting thats also a good sign.
cheatdeath - nice article. got a question, is there a way to distinguish between the regular cafe's where there are pretty girls (but they dont go home with you) and these types of cafes?

[mutantchicken]

I found an article in the paper that tells you where to pick up working girls and at which coffe shop, but its in vietnamese.

I have met a lot and bonked of girls through this method. These girls only go with customers they know, so you have to know how to speak a little bit of vietnamese. so basicly go to the coffee shops above, order coffee, pick a girl you like, chat with her, tip her 100k, make a 2nd visit by now she knows you well enough, get her number, wait until she is off work, then take her to a hotel near by.

so is this a case of you readimg something in a newspapaer and making it your fake life experice or you actually did this..cuz if its the later why bother quote a newspaper article that is in a language most guys here cant read...and the paper quites she goes with Guys she KNOWS and she wanst 800k ..why bother tehre are plenty fo freelancers avail for 500k..dont even have to wait till 10pm when she finshies work...seems this is anotehr example of you being a closet cheongster...u might even be a virgin

this guy tells us that he succeeded with this method, saying local guys with money have a harem..well this is teh same guys who thought he hit the jackpot when his bank offered him a measely 10k loan, and he was asking how long he can live like a king in thailand with this money.

And to answer phighter..no there is no way to distinguish these girls and these types of cafe. The bottom mine is that in ANYjob these will be girls willing to fuck for cash, u cna find tese girls anywhere and everywhere..just need to time and effort..u can even make the "indecent" proposal to every girls u meet and im sure u will get yes in time.
My point is that if you want to not been seen as a pervert, or u wnat to get these girls as normal gf or u just wnat to be able to have a nice time "rua mat" then this avenue is not viable ESP when u have freelancers u can fuck for cheaper and more convenient time. Im the 5 yrs i have been here and the 1000's pof cafe girls i have known only teh most ugly plain janes will eb willing to fuck...the pretty ones have suickers tipping 100k-500k trying to seduce them and so they dont really need the cash for fucking. Thats not saying u cant make a gf out of them and fuck afterwards...but cheatdeaths idea of wooking a girls is satyinmg hey baby u so beaitifal u make me get a erection and i wanna fuck u...he also thinks he should go to thailand in midst of the demonstation meet a girls and talk politics and then this will get here hot and horney..check his post history...now tell me is this a guy you wanna take seriously

[cheatdeath]

you should take the news article seriously, because there are a lot of them on the web. LOL. your just jealous that other guys dont need your service, and there is a huge and I mean huge selection for local guys to choose from, and thats the best part.

a lot of these village girls who come to the city and work at these coffee shops make 6+ million a month and they send most of the money home to their parents in the village to build a big house.

so is this a case of you readimg something in a newspapaer and making it your fake life experice or you actually did this..cuz if its the later why bother quote a newspaper article that is in a language most guys here cant read...and the paper quites she goes with Guys she KNOWS and she wanst 800k ..why bother tehre are plenty fo freelancers avail for 500k..dont even have to wait till 10pm when she finshies work...seems this is anotehr example of you being a closet cheongster...u might even be a virgin

this guy tells us that he succeeded with this method, saying local guys with money have a harem..well this is teh same guys who thought he hit the jackpot when his bank offered him a measely 10k loan, and he was asking how long he can live like a king in thailand with this money.

And to answer phighter..no there is no way to distinguish these girls and these types of cafe. The bottom mine is that in ANYjob these will be girls willing to fuck for cash, u cna find tese girls anywhere and everywhere..just need to time and effort..u can even make the "indecent" proposal to every girls u meet and im sure u will get yes in time.
My point is that if you want to not been seen as a pervert, or u wnat to get these girls as normal gf or u just wnat to be able to have a nice time "rua mat" then this avenue is not viable ESP when u have freelancers u can fuck for cheaper and more convenient time. Im the 5 yrs i have been here and the 1000's pof cafe girls i have known only teh most ugly plain janes will eb willing to fuck...the pretty ones have suickers tipping 100k-500k trying to seduce them and so they dont really need the cash for fucking. Thats not saying u cant make a gf out of them and fuck afterwards...but cheatdeaths idea of wooking a girls is satyinmg hey baby u so beaitifal u make me get a erection and i wanna fuck u...he also thinks he should go to thailand in midst of the demonstation meet a girls and talk politics and then this will get here hot and horney..check his post history...now tell me is this a guy you wanna take seriously

[phighter]

cafe level 1 : pretty girl serve you drink and walk away
cafe level 2: pretty girl serve you drink then sit down next to you. if you ignore her, she will sit there and eat sunflower seeds
cafe level 3: pretty girl serve you drink, then sit on your lap and talk with you. if you pull out a smartphone she will demand to play games on it while sitting on your lap
cafe level 4: hj
cafe level 5: bj

now if there's a cafe level 6, sign me up! of course i realize not every girl there will go to hotel with customers, but if there's a consistently a "higher chance" - i'm in. anyways, planning to check out these streets soon =] i dont expect much as i probably won't tip anything at all... but we'll see.

[cheatdeath]

the girls who work at these coffe shops get paid monthly, but their pay is not enough, so often they do work on the side, but the thing is this, these girls will only go with customers at their own will, so you might bang a chick on tuesday, but the next time she is willing to bang you is nextweek tuesday because she is not a desperate girl, so the systerm cant abuse and exploit her. That might suck, but there are so many coffee shops with so many girls coming up from the villages that local guys will always have plenty of girls to choose from.


You should tip, 100K tip is tiny compared to the service she is providing.cafe level 1 : pretty girl serve you drink and walk away
cafe level 2: pretty girl serve you drink then sit down next to you. if you ignore her, she will sit there and eat sunflower seeds
cafe level 3: pretty girl serve you drink, then sit on your lap and talk with you. if you pull out a smartphone she will demand to play games on it while sitting on your lap
cafe level 4: hj
cafe level 5: bj

now if there's a cafe level 6, sign me up! of course i realize not every girl there will go to hotel with customers, but if there's a consistently a "higher chance" - i'm in. anyways, planning to check out these streets soon =] i dont expect much as i probably won't tip anything at all... but we'll see.

[bolueeleh]

Hi to all bros here. I'm in vietnam for the 3rd year alr is there a new ruling that we can't make visa for three months straight now can only 1 month cos for this pass three months I have been only extending it every month through my agent

if u hv company or company letter u can make 1yr-$100us

[mutantchicken]

cafe level 1 : pretty girl serve you drink and walk away
cafe level 2: pretty girl serve you drink then sit down next to you. if you ignore her, she will sit there and eat sunflower seeds
cafe level 3: pretty girl serve you drink, then sit on your lap and talk with you. if you pull out a smartphone she will demand to play games on it while sitting on your lap
cafe level 4: hj
cafe level 5: bj

now if there's a cafe level 6, sign me up! of course i realize not every girl there will go to hotel with customers, but if there's a consistently a "higher chance" - i'm in. anyways, planning to check out these streets soon =] i dont expect much as i probably won't tip anything at all... but we'll see.

yes i mentions tehre is a cafe level 6...but filled with plain young girls...works is u buy them drinks..each drink abt 20k...u but 10+ and u have a good chance of fucking them standing doggy...its out near binh duong...
but as i said before... the girls level 1-3..if you seduce them then good chance u will get fuck just liek anywhere..or u can indecently propose to fuck for xyz dolalrs, the going rate is 800-1mill from what i have heard...again i openly said this is what i have heard as i do the gf thing only...but in my view if i gonna pay 800k+, have to tip them 100k for teh chance AND wait till the get off work at 10-11pm..i might as well go freelancer avenue.
BUt here is teh thing adressing cheatdeath..he wanst to make up teh scenario he done it all before, just let him NAME teh cafes and teh streets where he has successfully pulled it off...i bet he wont even be able to do that..again i call bullshit on his..find a dark skimpy dress cafe girl...(they ALL do that).... tip 100k and say abracadra and yep she goes to hotel with u...

Btw there is a vn version of simngapores Petain street..mainly milfs tho soem pretty acceptible ones..cost 200k...but its ONLY for 15min..so good for fastcum'ers

[mutantchicken]

you should take the news article seriously, because there are a lot of them on the web. LOL. your just jealous that other guys dont need your service, and there is a huge and I mean huge selection for local guys to choose from, and thats the best part.

a lot of these village girls who come to the city and work at these coffee shops make 6+ million a month and they send most of the money home to their parents in the village to build a big house.

if your vietnamese is good as your english then its further proof of your fantasies...how the hell could u even intelligently use jelous in that sentence, if i have any feelings regarding people not needing my services then it would be annoyance or malice or spite, definately not jealous.

Maybe you could use envy if you are trying to say that im envious of other peoples success with women BUT The main difference between envy and jealousy is that envy is an emotion related to coveting what someone else has, while jealousy is the emotion related to fear that something you have will be taken away by someone else.

So please get a decent education rather than wasting your time reading tabloid type vietnamese news articles.

[cheatdeath]

you want to know something funny mutant, in the news article, it mentions about a guy named Tuan, tuan introduced his friend to a girl in the coffe shop, and because she knew tuan she was willing to go with tuan's friend for 800K. Gee it sounds a lot like the kind of buissness that you do, so mutant theres no need for disco, just go to the coffe shop and pick a girl.

you are jealous because you cant convince these girls in the coffee shops to go with your customers but local guys who know how to speak vietnamese can.
if your vietnamese is good as your english then its further proof of your fantasies...how the hell could u even intelligently use jelous in that sentence, if i have any feelings regarding people not needing my services then it would be annoyance or malice or spite, definately not jealous.

Maybe you could use envy if you are trying to say that im envious of other peoples success with women BUT The main difference between envy and jealousy is that envy is an emotion related to coveting what someone else has, while jealousy is the emotion related to fear that something you have will be taken away by someone else.

So please get a decent education rather than wasting your time reading tabloid type vietnamese news articles.

[phighter]

I've got an OKT around the corner that I use. The gang is set up on one of the notorious streets for action in HCMC. I regularly use him, however, he's been slacking lately.

He knows I like fresh girls, so he calls me when a new girl comes in (whether pretty or normal). I tell him I want him to filter the girls for me and don't call me for less pretty/cute girls, that I prefer pretty/cute over fresh. But he never listens, keeps calling me for every new girl.

So I've ditched him, went with another gang on the street (perhaps the same gang, not sure). They brought me a fairly cute girl, probably 24 years old, thin, b cup girl, light tan. Was planning to go 1 hour for 500k but she was quite cute so i switched to LT for 1.2M.

Upon arriving at my apartment (yes, I know its not recommended to bring WL back to your apartment, but its cleaner than the hourly hotels, i've got 24 hour security, and on more than one occasion the girl likes my room and ask to move in with me. :) i don't have expensive things so I usually accept and let her sleep with me for a few weeks, and I ask security guard to watch them).

Anyways, she sees my laptop and immediately ask to go on Garena. "What the fuck is Garena?" She subsequently installs and and starts listening to Vietnamese people karaoke in chatrooms. Then she switches over to watching Live Strems of League of Legends. LOL WTF! She was really into it - laughing and yelling at the players passionately as I unpassionately turn on the tv.

I told her I'd prefer live streams of something sexy, and she says she can do that. She jumps on a shadey chatroom website which she says her "brother" is the owner of, so she has an admin account. Turns on the webcam points it at me, then starts typing in vietnamese which roughly translates to "anyone wants to play? no one?" I yelled at her for bringing me to a gay chatroom, then she types "admin, get a girl to strip for us!" we click on a few live streams of vietnamese girls doing nothing, we switch back to LoL.

After letting her watch her League of Legends, we get to the real action which was great. Passionate with GFE experience.

Afterwards, she falls asleep, but she insists that we sleep with the blanket over our heads. I couldn't breath! But she kept insisting... she falls asleep and i quickly stick my head out. She slept like a cocoon the entire time.

[pting]

I've got an OKT around the corner that I use. The gang is set up on one of the notorious streets for action in HCMC. I regularly use him, however, he's been slacking lately.


Thanks for your FR, about 3 mths back at HCM, there is one street OKT at D1 named ah San, he did manage to help me find girls to select & bonk around 1 am.. Price is not really cheap but i need a release so i ask him to send her girls to outside hotel lobby for me to choose.

He even claim he had underage girls but have to do it in transit hotel, not our own hotel. i think street girls are really hit and miss...depend on your luck if u can choose the right girl.

[naemlo]

T
He even claim he had underage girls but have to do it in transit hotel, not our own hotel.

It is good to avoid, condemn child sex.

[bolueeleh]

cafe level 0 - i have met before the girls dont even want to serve me drinks, i just wave and wave like an idiot

hot toc level 0 - i walk in say i want massage with "special" all girls sitting there say they dont want do

in both cases i am in t shirt, bermuda and slippers :D

[phighter]

cafe level 0 - i have met before the girls dont even want to serve me drinks, i just wave and wave like an idiot

hot toc level 0 - i walk in say i want massage with "special" all girls sitting there say they dont want do

in both cases i am in t shirt, bermuda and slippers :D

lol, but that makes you look local :]

[S.B.Y.1]

It is good to avoid, condemn child sex.

This Pak fuLLy suPPort

[pting]

It is good to avoid, condemn child sex.

I dont support child sex too but the one i refer to are those probably slightly underage abt 17yr. I saw the girl doesnt look underage though i did not choose her becoz need to use other hotel.
When mongering in poor countries, i believe many underage girl would pose as overage for convenient sake.

[Singkieu]

I've got an OKT around the corner that I use. The gang is set up on one of the notorious streets for action in HCMC. I regularly use him, however, he's been slacking lately.

He knows I like fresh girls, so he calls me when a new girl comes in (whether pretty or normal). I tell him I want him to filter the girls for me and don't call me for less pretty/cute girls, that I prefer pretty/cute over fresh. But he never listens, keeps calling me for every new girl.

So I've ditched him, went with another gang on the street (perhaps the same gang, not sure). They brought me a fairly cute girl, probably 24 years old, thin, b cup girl, light tan. Was planning to go 1 hour for 500k but she was quite cute so i switched to LT for 1.2M.

Upon arriving at my apartment (yes, I know its not recommended to bring WL back to your apartment, but its cleaner than the hourly hotels, i've got 24 hour security, and on more than one occasion the girl likes my room and ask to move in with me. :) i don't have expensive things so I usually accept and let her sleep with me for a few weeks, and I ask security guard to watch them).

Anyways, she sees my laptop and immediately ask to go on Garena. "What the fuck is Garena?" She subsequently installs and and starts listening to Vietnamese people karaoke in chatrooms. Then she switches over to watching Live Strems of League of Legends. LOL WTF! She was really into it - laughing and yelling at the players passionately as I unpassionately turn on the tv.

I told her I'd prefer live streams of something sexy, and she says she can do that. She jumps on a shadey chatroom website which she says her "brother" is the owner of, so she has an admin account. Turns on the webcam points it at me, then starts typing in vietnamese which roughly translates to "anyone wants to play? no one?" I yelled at her for bringing me to a gay chatroom, then she types "admin, get a girl to strip for us!" we click on a few live streams of vietnamese girls doing nothing, we switch back to LoL.

After letting her watch her League of Legends, we get to the real action which was great. Passionate with GFE experience.

Afterwards, she falls asleep, but she insists that we sleep with the blanket over our heads. I couldn't breath! But she kept insisting... she falls asleep and i quickly stick my head out. She slept like a cocoon the entire time.

Dude, you sound like you're in high school. :p

Jus yanking your chain.

[cheatdeath]

Starting at 0:52 seconds you could see a salon, this salon has a girl standing outside to greet you, chances are this is a Hot toc with the extras, any bros in HCMC right now know where this place is?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgeA-KqFD6w

[hunterhi]

大哥，u r so man... :p

It is good to avoid, condemn child sex.

Bro, I always wear this style so m I a Vietnamese... Or I think most sillyapore man wear this style too... ;)

lol, but that makes you look local :]

Bro, give the man a chance... We r here to share... Share share goes long way...

As there is a saying one man meat maybe another man poison...

Let all Mo... Ha... Ba... Yoo... :D

Happy TeT to all Bro...

Dude, you sound like you're in high school. :p

Jus yanking your chain.

[HeyB]

Starting at 0:52 seconds you could see a salon, this salon has a girl standing outside to greet you, chances are this is a Hot toc with the extras, any bros in HCMC right now know where this place is?


it seems to be le duyen barber shop on truong dinh street. no extras there.

[PuNkDeViL]

Dear all !

I am planning for a HCM trip at the end of Feb... very excited and looking forward to it :D

[xzcfv]

Wow, awesome thread... still reading from the start:D

[rodding]

This is just some idle commentry about some of the things i have read or heard written and spoken by samsters i have met or just read about.

This is not directed at anyone in specific nor am i targeting the person im quoting.

The word explore is generally accepted as the following
1. To investigate systematically; examine:
2. To search into or travel in for the purpose of discovery:

Whilst its possible that a bunch of hcmc newbies could be doing the former, ie find things in the city that "they" dont know about personally, but ..................
good read. thanks for the insight.

[mutantchicken]

Starting at 0:52 seconds you could see a salon, this salon has a girl standing outside to greet you, chances are this is a Hot toc with the extras, any bros in HCMC right now know where this place is?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgeA-KqFD6w

haha more proof you have no IDEA..that salon is Le Duyen4 and it offers about as much extras you providing legit intel or you using the correct english

[phighter]

Bro, give the man a chance... We r here to share... Share share goes long way...


haha, its alright, i know he's jerking my chain, i can take it ^^; and im pretty high schooler though, but to defend myself for fun:

first, its the girl that wanted to watch live stream league of legends, etc. not me, so she's more xjteen than me!

second, i like to match their personality to develop GFE, so if she wants to spend the first hour cuddling, watching people play video games, chatting on net - so be it. I paid for LT for a reason, if i was in a hurry i'd just do the 1 hour 500k

third, i suggested one time to talk like a 7 year old - vietnamese girls love that. what i meant is more than just "speaking some vietnamese"; i meant acting like a 7 year old - talk with dynamic hand gestures, use 7-year old logic, act very naive, etc. if the girl has a xjteen personality (the type i like) then from my experience works great. (doesn't work too well on the proper, lady type personality).

[jackbl]

any bros in HCMC right now know where this place is?

Le Duyen 4 : 72 - 74, Truong Dinh Street, Ben Thanh Ward, District 1 HCMC

[bolueeleh]

i still find it unbelievable that le duyen has no extras, the hostess in ao dai standing infront is always so damn hot, ride pass always nose bleed

[pting]

i still find it unbelievable that le duyen has no extras, the hostess in ao dai standing infront is always so damn hot, ride pass always nose bleed

They look like dirty saloon but think is clean one, no hanky panky, after select the massage package girls stand in a row for u to choose. In room my frenz ask for special, they dun understand so i ask direct can go hotel, they said no. In the end, massage, pay tip then go, unhappy ending.

Not sure got special for those who can speak their language.

[hongkeetong]

"free bonks" are usually free or cheaper if its only for 1 time...if its over a period of time...usually its many times more expensive....:D

Especially if you get permanent free bongs :D:p

[volcano]

Especially if you get permanent free bongs :D:p


that would turn out to be farking expensive :D

[cheatdeath]

thats why you move on to the next girl, and then the next girl.

[bolueeleh]

They look like dirty saloon but think is clean one, no hanky panky, after select the massage package girls stand in a row for u to choose. In room my frenz ask for special, they dun understand so i ask direct can go hotel, they said no. In the end, massage, pay tip then go, unhappy ending.

Not sure got special for those who can speak their language.

i tried le duyen 2 times at different location and both times i was allocated room on ground floor, i see people come down fm 2nd floor looking very happy leh, any bros went up 2nd floor before? both times i come out right and ask for hj, kana rejected

[cheatdeath]

so how come you were not allowed upstairs?
i tried le duyen 2 times at different location and both times i was allocated room on ground floor, i see people come down fm 2nd floor looking very happy leh, any bros went up 2nd floor before? both times i come out right and ask for hj, kana rejected

[cheatdeath]

they get enough buisness from locals, so there is no need to cater to foreigners. Plus it gives district 1 the clean image when looking in from the outside world.


i tried le duyen 2 times at different location and both times i was allocated room on ground floor, i see people come down fm 2nd floor looking very happy leh, any bros went up 2nd floor before? both times i come out right and ask for hj, kana rejected

[Hurricane88]

they get enough buisness from locals, so there is no need to cater to foreigners. Plus it gives district 1 the clean image when looking in from the outside world.

this is a typical wrong insight..LD saloons depends on foreigners and Vietkieus for their clientele...:)

please get your facts right before you post...anyway what you written are all nonsense and fantasy...so I will not bother at all...:)

[volcano]

they get enough buisness from locals, so there is no need to cater to foreigners. Plus it gives district 1 the clean image when looking in from the outside world.



yes yes yes...only locals allow to go 2nd,3rd and 4th floor...and the gals will perform BM,bbbj,ass rimming and fj...:rolleyes:

although this forum is about sharing,but pls share the actual facts and not false information.

Le Duyen has been around for so many years and the services it provide has been shared and discuss many times..seriously wonder why people still can go around shitting...haizzzzz......:(

[volcano]

i tried le duyen 2 times at different location and both times i was allocated room on ground floor, i see people come down fm 2nd floor looking very happy leh, any bros went up 2nd floor before? both times i come out right and ask for hj, kana rejected


request for room at the top most level when u go next time...then see if u will leave the place smiling..:)

[cheatdeath]

Foreigners and viet kieus are not as consistent as the local clients. The local clients have money, look around, some restaurants are packed with huge tables of food. Over in viet nam its normal for guys to go get facial massages at the end of the long work week. So a place like the salon that offer extras to local clients only really need the local buisness.

Also theres the aspect that on the international stage if foreigners are known to go to these places and the local governement cant do anything to stop it then it makes the tourism sector look bad, vietnam doesnt want to be like thailand where a lot of it(red light services) are out in the open.
If anything by keeping the dirty red light buisness exclusive to locals it helps the tourism image and the tourist areas around the cities.

Viet nam already has a tourist attraction in its huge coastline, so its gonna try and keep at clean image and attract and keep on attracting tourists from the surrounding areas and overseas.

with the phillippines, singapore, thailand, hong kong, all having strong red light districts why bother?
this is a typical wrong insight..LD saloons depends on foreigners and Vietkieus for their clientele...:)

please get your facts right before you post...anyway what you written are all nonsense and fantasy...so I will not bother at all...:)

[Hurricane88]

Foreigners and viet kieus are not as consistent as the local clients. The local clients have money, look around, some restaurants are packed with huge tables of food. Over in viet nam its normal for guys to go get facial massages at the end of the long work week. So a place like the salon that offer extras to local clients only really need the local buisness.


young man...let me tell you that you can date these VBs working in saloon...dun waste time if you go hcm once or twice per year...many samsters here had hooked them and bonked them after work or during their off days...many of these VBs can go for dates and supper after their work only provided the VB like you...and you can afford to entertain her with luxury...dun be surprised she bring half a dozen frens to a party in a club or disco...the rest is up to individual...end of the day not sure what is the cpf...:)

for me...I dun waste time going to saloon...nvr been there...haha...:)

[pting]

I think no different ba. At le duyen 4, i had my hair wash at ground floor, then bring us to 2nd floor for massage. Still no happy ending.

i tried le duyen 2 times at different location and both times i was allocated room on ground floor, i see people come down fm 2nd floor looking very happy leh, any bros went up 2nd floor before? both times i come out right and ask for hj, kana rejected

[mutantchicken]

Foreigners and viet kieus are not as consistent as the local clients. The local clients have money, look around, some restaurants are packed with huge tables of food. Over in viet nam its normal for guys to go get facial massages at the end of the long work week. So a place like the salon that offer extras to local clients only really need the local buisness.

Also theres the aspect that on the international stage if foreigners are known to go to these places and the local governement cant do anything to stop it then it makes the tourism sector look bad, vietnam doesnt want to be like thailand where a lot of it(red light services) are out in the open.
If anything by keeping the dirty red light buisness exclusive to locals it helps the tourism image and the tourist areas around the cities.

Viet nam already has a tourist attraction in its huge coastline, so its gonna try and keep at clean image and attract and keep on attracting tourists from the surrounding areas and overseas.

with the phillippines, singapore, thailand, hong kong, all having strong red light districts why bother?

like i said b4, this guy is FULL of crap...add the expats, whether white yellow blue greem, tourists, holiday makers, irregular foreigners and iirregial vks, with the minimum tip being 200k, and withs suckers being pressured to pay 500k, and so even iof they were to ONLY make 500k a day tahst still 15mill a month, what a mid level uni decuated exec would be paid. So you still think they gonna want to give u extras?
And with locals knowing other places ALL across the otehr 10 or do districts who bother to go to D1 for extras.
You seem so adamant that Le duyen offers extras, why is it you didnt EVEN know the video you posted was le duyen..maybe its because you never BEEN there, and like wise you prob never been to vn either, prob all just things you heard from you big brother or somenthing you read, i suppus eu need to wait till you 18 when your mommy will take u back hey?

[cheatdeath]

mutant chicken your personal attacks are lame.

[S.B.Y.1]

for me...I dun waste time going to saloon...nvr been there...haha...:)

Cos all the VBs waiting at airport to greet you :p

You THE man ;)

[mutantchicken]

mutant chicken your personal attacks are lame.
yep your one of those guys who thinks the world revolves around you, and when someone puts a mirror in front of you exposing your stupidity..ooo its a personal attack..why dont you report me for cyber bullying

[haha_123]

young man...let me tell you that you can date these VBs working in saloon...dun waste time if you go hcm once or twice per year...many samsters here had hooked them and bonked them after work or during their off days...many of these VBs can go for dates and supper after their work only provided the VB like you...and you can afford to entertain her with luxury...dun be surprised she bring half a dozen frens to a party in a club or disco...the rest is up to individual...end of the day not sure what is the cpf...:)



Yes TS, you are right. The salon gals can also follow us to Dam Sen, Vung Tau, Dalat, etc. Once the salon gal arranged for her mother from Long Xuyen to visit Vung Tau with us, but I chickened out at the last minute.

During her birthday, the salon gal brought half a dozen colleagues to a karaoke. End up I paid $4M for the party, excluding the flowers and birthday cake.

At the salon, I always asked for a VIP room. There, I managed to ejaculate once with me lying on top of her while she closed her eyes and gave out soft moans. I had to finish the job fast as we were afraid that someone may just come into the room. The gal acted shy by pulling her hand away when I brought her hand under my shorts to touch my hardened rod.
It was definitely a once in a lifetime experience.;)

After a few times, the salon gal became braver and would sometimes take the initiative. Especially in the morning, she gets easily excited when we hugged tightly against each other's body. She don't hesitate to pull down my shorts and get on-top of me. But we made sure to do it in the hotel instead of the salon. We wouldn't want her to lose her job or get teased by her colleagues, in case we get caught with my pants down.:p

[Singkieu]

...During her birthday, the salon gal brought half a dozen colleagues to a karaoke. End up I paid $4M for the party, excluding the flowers and birthday cake...

You mean you paid for the flowers and birthday cake too? :rolleyes:

[haha_123]

You mean you paid for the flowers and birthday cake too? :rolleyes:

Yes sir. Plus a big teddy bear.

[haha_123]

I bought online the flowers and teddy bear from www.saigonflowers.com and have them delivered to her salon. The birthday cake was bought from ABC Bakery at Pham Ngu Lao St.

[cheatdeath]

your so lame mutant, you run your mouth about me, and time and time again I proved you wrong. Your so lame!

mutant seriously why do you even bring your face around me? dude you run your mouth about your tour services and disco this and disco that, but clearly with the news article that I posted up you dont have to take them to disco.

Hurricane, did I say foreigners cannot bonk salon girls, did I say that? No, Iam saying the salon girls dont really need foreigners buisness, and I even gave you logical proof, yet instead of eating crow, your response is, well I dont go to those salons.

Mutant, what are you to me? nothing!, you are nothing to me!, so if you want to make a point use logic and reason, beacuse you are nothing to me mutant, iam not burdened to love you, your personal attacks dont mean anything because you are nothing to me, I dont need you, I dont need your services, and we will never ever meet in real life.

And its so sad that the people on this website seriously go through life thinking that I care or even want you guys to belive me.
yep your one of those guys who thinks the world revolves around you, and when someone puts a mirror in front of you exposing your stupidity..ooo its a personal attack..why dont you report me for cyber bullying

[mutantchicken]

Yes TS, you are right. The salon gals can also follow us to Dam Sen, Vung Tau, Dalat, etc. Once the salon gal arranged for her mother from Long Xuyen to visit Vung Tau with us, but I chickened out at the last minute.

During her birthday, the salon gal brought half a dozen colleagues to a karaoke. End up I paid $4M for the party, excluding the flowers and birthday cake.

At the salon, I always asked for a VIP room. There, I managed to ejaculate once with me lying on top of her while she closed her eyes and gave out soft moans. I had to finish the job fast as we were afraid that someone may just come into the room. The gal acted shy by pulling her hand away when I brought her hand under my shorts to touch my hardened rod.
It was definitely a once in a lifetime experience.;)

After a few times, the salon gal became braver and would sometimes take the initiative. Especially in the morning, she gets easily excited when we hugged tightly against each other's body. She don't hesitate to pull down my shorts and get on-top of me. But we made sure to do it in the hotel instead of the salon. We wouldn't want her to lose her job or get teased by her colleagues, in case we get caught with my pants down.:p

yes and i wonder what her local bf doess for her..prob use teh mioney she gives him to gamble..the later give teh floswers u gave her to another girl and eat your cake as well haha

[hunterhi]

Just share what I have seen in HCM, a I m quite a regular for the past few month... Put one leg ( 擦一腳 )... Share share goes a long way...

Wa, bro, u r one superstar living in HCM so envy then... As one of my friend told me about those working in those Le Deyun 1/2/3/4 ... Or those pretty girl/lady working in others Salon ( Hot Toc )
Izzt how they get pay...

For Le Duyen 1/2/3/4
Every girl/lady that works there must to pay a milloin Dong every month to the salon, then then salon will help them to dress up n do their hair...
Their pay depend on what kind of service u chose, but no dirty stuff ... As they r VASE ( 花瓶 ) they can looks very good... But most of them cannot speak english, if those can speaks English, hokkien or any other dialect is those with horn ( 生角 ) that mean they r the amutuer to pro... So if u chose just the shampoo u just pay for the service n her pay is also the price for the shampoo so the more u chose the more u lay too, when u going to pay them they r sure to ask for more as there r too many of them to chose... Only they play u, u dun play them... :D so u will need sometime n patience to play with them... If u r there for a few days just enjoy the shampoo service n massage services they have... As I have try afew include LD 3/4... My friend told me LD4 the girl is the best among them 1/2/3/4...

I went to LD4 twice...

Wooo, boy the ladies all line up for u to chose which make u very pressure... As they r all quite pretty with standard ard 7/8 pointer, unless u r too fussy... There r about 30-50 for u to chose... Include who is off for the day... As for some bro said the hostess that looks so pretty on the front desk do not do anything except showing her half/full ball that can make u bleed on the spot...

So been that done that...

Enjoy the HCM to all bro...

Ha Pi TeT... To all...

I bought online the flowers and teddy bear from www.saigonflowers.com and have them delivered to her salon. The birthday cake was bought from ABC Bakery at Pham Ngu Lao St.

[Dixiontse]

Thanks for your FR, about 3 mths back at HCM, there is one street OKT at D1 named ah San, he did manage to help me find girls to select & bonk around 1 am.. Price is not really cheap but i need a release so i ask him to send her girls to outside hotel lobby for me to choose.

He even claim he had underage girls but have to do it in transit hotel, not our own hotel. i think street girls are really hit and miss...depend on your luck if u can choose the right girl.

I got find this OKT ah san before.. he always hang out at HAI BA TRUNG street...whenever I go bar 91 come out with empty handed he will walk come find u..haha last time he bring us 7 ppl all go to discirt 7 ..we are quite uncomfortable..coz he bring us go to outtown..scare get rob..but when we reach..he got many girls to choose..over 30 girls..some are not bad..but not cheap oso..tourist price.. haha :cool:

[mutantchicken]

your so lame mutant, you run your mouth about me, and time and time again I proved you wrong. Your so lame!

mutant seriously why do you even bring your face around me? dude you run your mouth about your tour services and disco this and disco that, but clearly with the news article that I posted up you dont have to take them to disco.

Hurricane, did I say foreigners cannot bonk salon girls, did I say that? No, Iam saying the salon girls dont really need foreigners buisness, and I even gave you logical proof, yet instead of eating crow, your response is, well I dont go to those salons.

Mutant, what are you to me? nothing!, you are nothing to me!, so if you want to make a point use logic and reason, beacuse you are nothing to me mutant, iam not burdened to love you, your personal attacks dont mean anything because you are nothing to me, I dont need you, I dont need your services, and we will never ever meet in real life.

And its so sad that the people on this website seriously go through life thinking that I care or even want you guys to belive me.

where have you proven me wrong..you havnet posted up one credible bit of real info...rather what you have posted is just heresay..look up that word like the word jealous so you know how to use that properly.
And you say i mean nothing to you yet your responses and your little temper tantrum means totally something else. All your points of LOGIC if anything is the logic of a young boy..ie FAILED IMATURE logic...you wat to use ligic and yet you have NEVER been to those said places..if you wnat to use logic then you have no place being in vietnam...if vn was so logical itwoulnt be the undeveloped country it is now..it wouldnt be were when u give loyal support to you local shop keeper, instead of giving you layalty discounts he tried to profiteer from your loyalty.

and if its clearly that most guys here think you full of shit that they would even call you out which is very unsingaporean..then why bother to post, if anything just proves your ignorance. In all your posts you havent named streets or locations or where u got this that etc, its all works of fiction and then you say logic this logic that...well my logic says that you dont know shit, just go on lauxanh and masturbate, thats about as close as you have gotten to vn

[pting]

I got find this OKT ah san before.. he always hang out at HAI BA TRUNG street.. :

Yup its not cheap but then no choice at 1am after back from pub, need a release. I am afraid of getting rob too thats why insist he send the girls outside my hotel for selection

[Singkieu]

where have you proven me wrong..you havnet posted up one credible bit of real info...rather what you have posted is just heresay..look up that word like the word jealous so you know how to use that properly...

...and if its clearly that most guys here think you full of shit that they would even call you out which is very unsingaporean..then why bother to post, if anything just proves your ignorance. In all your posts you havent named streets or locations or where u got this that etc, its all works of fiction and then you say logic this logic that...well my logic says that you dont know shit, just go on lauxanh and masturbate, thats about as close as you have gotten to vn

Actually you need to look up that first word too yourself... its hearsay by the way.

Also, although I know your rationale behind not posting addresses yourself, I dont think its good form for you to berate others who do the same, whatever their rationale is or whether it differs from yours.

Just my opinion.

[cheatdeath]

your so lame, you run your mouth all the time, go get someone to translate that news article I posted.

Look, I dont need you to like me mutant, in fact i dont need anyone on this website to like me so no, iam not gonna be a fag and kiss the asses of others on this website by sharing info online. Iam gonna enjoy my trips to viet nam a lot more now, especially knowing full well that there are lame ass haters like you mutant who do not wish me well.


Some of the people on this website are so conceited, its like they think this is the only website that talks about mongering, like there isnt any other websites out there. An this whole immunity to zapping, oh god, its such a ploy to get people to spend money on this site. Argue with them zap them get them to use their cc to get immunity so they can argue back, how lame, is this website so poor that it has to resort to lame tactics?



where have you proven me wrong..you havnet posted up one credible bit of real info...rather what you have posted is just heresay..look up that word like the word jealous so you know how to use that properly.
And you say i mean nothing to you yet your responses and your little temper tantrum means totally something else. All your points of LOGIC if anything is the logic of a young boy..ie FAILED IMATURE logic...you wat to use ligic and yet you have NEVER been to those said places..if you wnat to use logic then you have no place being in vietnam...if vn was so logical itwoulnt be the undeveloped country it is now..it wouldnt be were when u give loyal support to you local shop keeper, instead of giving you layalty discounts he tried to profiteer from your loyalty.

and if its clearly that most guys here think you full of shit that they would even call you out which is very unsingaporean..then why bother to post, if anything just proves your ignorance. In all your posts you havent named streets or locations or where u got this that etc, its all works of fiction and then you say logic this logic that...well my logic says that you dont know shit, just go on lauxanh and masturbate, thats about as close as you have gotten to vn

[mutantchicken]

Actually you need to look up that first word too yourself... its hearsay by the way.

Also, although I know your rationale behind not posting addresses yourself, I dont think its good form for you to berate others who do the same, whatever their rationale is or whether it differs from yours.

Just my opinion.

u didnt correct all my other typos as well?..getting slack in your old age

[Singkieu]

u didnt correct all my other typos as well?..getting slack in your old age

hihi yeah I'm only now catching up to you...

I mean slackness, not age.

[phighter]

@ mutant & @ cheat death

let me preface this by saying i just starting mongering/cheonging ~4 months ago, after all the raids.

from my understanding, its a different vietnam before and after the raids.

now i don't remember everything cheat death said, but the general gist of it if i recall correctly is that vietnam babes = very easy, whether working or non-working ladies (and this is where some people have issue)

as a vietkieu i commonly hear this from my vk friends - that vietnam is heavan for vk men. whether you pay or not, whether you calculate in dinner/drinks/bottles or not, etc, there were plenty of cheap/easy fucks around for whatever reason. all it took was one coffee drink and they'll be begging to be brought back to your hotel for a fuck.

i've had the same vietkieu friends visit vietnam lately and proclaim its a whole different vietnam after the raids. girls have become materialistic, conservative, etc. - whatever the reason fucks don't come /b/ as easy /b/ anymore. For both working and non-working ladies.

so what cheatdeath says is consistent with what i hear of Vietnam before 2013 raids (however I've never experienced it myself - read preface). After 2013 raids... i'd have to disagree - incredibly difficult, regardless of all the cafe's/hot tocs with scantily clad women - most are innocent places.

which leads me to conclude that while cheatdeath probably is speaking with truth from his personal experience, probably a bit outdated i.e. before 2013 raids in late 2013. /correct me if i'm wrong cheat/

[cheatdeath]

Most of the raids where done in close proximity to the downtown district 1 areas, the tourists areas, so other areas are not affected, and the places that get raided will open up else where.

now if the raids after 2013 has affected some VKs, then Iam guessing those same VKs dont have connections with the locals that know about the redlight areas. Also HCMC is not just district 1, newer districts are opening up more shops.

If you really know hcmc, and not just the downtown, tourist districts, you will not have a problem trying to find action. I have said it when I first joined this site, if you want action, find the locals that are into the redlight district, they know where to find them.

[QUOTE=phighter;10429094]@ mutant & @ cheat death

let me preface this by saying i just starting mongering/cheonging ~4 months ago, after all the raids.

from my understanding, its a different vietnam before and after the raids.

now i don't remember everything cheat death said, but the general gist of it if i recall correctly is that vietnam babes = very easy, whether working or non-working ladies (and this is where some people have issue)

as a vietkieu i commonly hear this from my vk friends - that vietnam is heavan for vk men. whether you pay or not, whether you calculate in dinner/drinks/bottles or not, etc, there were plenty of cheap/easy fucks around for whatever reason. all it took was one coffee drink and they'll be begging to be brought back to your hotel for a fuck.

i've had the same vietkieu friends visit vietnam lately and proclaim its a whole different vietnam after the raids. girls have become materialistic, conservative, etc. - whatever the reason fucks don't come /b/ as easy /b/ anymore. For both working and non-working ladies.
so what cheatdeath says is consistent with what i hear of Vietnam before 2013 raids (however I've never experienced it myself - read preface). After 2013 raids... i'd have to disagree - incredibly difficult, regardless of all the cafe's/hot tocs with scantily clad women - most are innocent places.

which leads me to conclude that while cheatdeath probably is speaking with truth from his personal experience, probably a bit outdated i.e. before 2013 raids in late 2013. /correct me if i'm wrong cheat/[/QUOTE

[mutantchicken]

@ mutant & @ cheat death

let me preface this by saying i just starting mongering/cheonging ~4 months ago, after all the raids.

from my understanding, its a different vietnam before and after the raids.

now i don't remember everything cheat death said, but the general gist of it if i recall correctly is that vietnam babes = very easy, whether working or non-working ladies (and this is where some people have issue)

as a vietkieu i commonly hear this from my vk friends - that vietnam is heavan for vk men. whether you pay or not, whether you calculate in dinner/drinks/bottles or not, etc, there were plenty of cheap/easy fucks around for whatever reason. all it took was one coffee drink and they'll be begging to be brought back to your hotel for a fuck.

i've had the same vietkieu friends visit vietnam lately and proclaim its a whole different vietnam after the raids. girls have become materialistic, conservative, etc. - whatever the reason fucks don't come /b/ as easy /b/ anymore. For both working and non-working ladies.

so what cheatdeath says is consistent with what i hear of Vietnam before 2013 raids (however I've never experienced it myself - read preface). After 2013 raids... i'd have to disagree - incredibly difficult, regardless of all the cafe's/hot tocs with scantily clad women - most are innocent places.

which leads me to conclude that while cheatdeath probably is speaking with truth from his personal experience, probably a bit outdated i.e. before 2013 raids in late 2013. /correct me if i'm wrong cheat/

i disagree on this point..the raid have affected the PAID/prostitution locations...the freebies or part timers ie girls u seduce with donners or whatever which is what cheat death is refering to which im disputing hasnt been or or shouldnt be affected regardless of raids.
I am vk and i have heard all the BS stories from fellow vks regarding vn..and like with most things vietnamese, the truth is only 50%. I first came to vn in 94 and sure that vn is diffrent from the vn circa 2008 which is again dif from vn circa 2014. Shit u could offer some lollies to girls in 94 and get laid...but in the 20yrs past with vks pretty much lieing to girls, and with all teh otehr nationalities compounding the problem and the inherent dishonesty of the vietnamese..what you still think viet girls are so easily seduced for the price of a coffee.

That saying..i was in a cafe bj today in teh go vap area, i had a good time with a 19yr old, i have sent pics to h88 of her, the bj is normally 120k, last time i gave her 200k for the good service, today i upped the any i fucked her and still only ave her 200k. So yes cheap fucks are available and it is so with reasonable ease, given you have intel, relative charm etc tec...but to spit ot the garbage cheat death has put out..go find a scanty dressed girl in a dark spot and sit with her and she will fuck...look at all the cafes in bo ke, bac hai, vinh vien etc etc..along phan thi hien...they ALL fits thgat description and sure u can achieve that goal, but only with time and effort.

[bolueeleh]

haha can only believe 20‰ coming out of vn ppl.
@mutant, wa go vap very far leh, u really know venture leh

[V|ernar]

I dont support child sex too but the one i refer to are those probably slightly underage abt 17yr. I saw the girl doesnt look underage though i did not choose her becoz need to use other hotel.
When mongering in poor countries, i believe many underage girl would pose as overage for convenient sake.

having sex with underage girl in vietnam is a serious crime to us .. althought i knew it was undertable deal for a long time .. but still dont dare to try .

as age is catching up , the smaller my guts become .. lol

[MIFAcafe]

Happy Chinese New Year to all senior brothers and newbies.

I read a lot of argument on who is right or wrong, true or false in this thread.

I think we may be looking at one side of the coin and arguing with another guy looking at the other side of the coin.

We are all human, hence the thing we like to play may be different.

When I first post my experience in VN in June 2013; I was been "sour" of using stupid magic tricks to lure girl. When I think back, I felt I did nothing wrong as I do not even know a word of Tieng Viet; I did not even know how to say "Cam on em."

I would think that it is easy to hook up girls in HCM. But basic TV is a must.
Money is secondary; but more or less will be part of the equation.

Let learn and share our experience; and if you ask me why I do not share my address......
I do not have one, I only have the address of my hotel.
Hardly chiong KTV anymore; as every trip I go, at least 1-2 gals is willing to meet me in HCM and spend 5-6 days with me without leaving.

Thank to everyone that contribute to this thread. I have learned a great deal.

I want to thank H88 for teaching me everything he know about HCM and also make me learn to speak and type basic Tieng Viet within 30 days. I am very happy to be able to speak to locals in VN, and they really warm up to me when I utter my lousy TV and they are all willing to teach me more TV everytime I eat and drink with the locals.

The VN experience is priceless.

Wish everyone Huat Ahhhhh!:D

PS: For those whom wonder whether I did learn TV in 30 days?
It is true; and I did it because of a girl I promise to converse in Tieng Viet 30 days later. I kept my promise.

[Botarbolampar]

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[sailsingapore]

Happy Chinese New Year to all senior brothers and newbies.


I want to thank H88 for teaching me everything he know about HCM and also make me learn to speak and type basic Tieng Viet within 30 days. I am very happy to be able to speak to locals in VN, and they really warm up to me when I utter my lousy TV and they are all willing to teach me more TV everytime I eat and drink with the locals.

The VN experience is priceless.

Wish everyone Huat Ahhhhh!:D




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[Singkieu]

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wahkao. I can almost smell the muff through my screen.

[Hurricane88]

Cung Hy Phat Tai...Gong Xi Fa Cai...:)

Year of the Galloping Horse 2014...:):)

Huat Ah...!!!


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[xzcfv]

going to hcmc on 4/2-7/2 seems like a bad timing?:eek:

[S.B.Y.1]

Wishing bro Hurricane88 and fellow Chinese samsters Lasting Prosperity and Good Health

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ_3djOOyH4

[sailsingapore]

HAPPY HAPPY NEW YEAR Big Bro H:88 :D
HUAT AH !!!!

[Makashi]

Happy CNY to all friends with like minded

[BobDole]

Happy New Year to all Samsters!

[AtlasShrugged]

Happy New Year to All!!

[Herch]

Happy new year to you guys,Im searching for a 24 hour massage place? im trying to move away from the expensive massage place in district 1. is there any good message place in district 7 where they provide good service ? :confused:

[youallsonice?]

Few days before Tet, went looking for the "new" Benny's along DBP, already totally renovated. Girls sitting on the couch, wearing same uniform. Parked my motor inside the shop, there's a security guy handing me the parking card. Mamasan at counter directly showed me the prices ie. 150k for ticket, 200k for tips. First time I went to similar hot tocs in NPK, I blur blur just walked in, chose a girl and followed her without asking any prices, and tio chopped, not really too much, 500k total.

Only around 5 girls at Benny's that evening. About 5-6/10 ratings.. Chose a smiling, relatively fairer, cuter, chubby younger girl and went up. 2nd level were a few sections of 4-5 inclining barber seats for washing hair, seperated by tinted glass walls. Led me to one end and lied down on one chair. Unbuttoned my shirt and pulled down my pants. Used wet tissues to clean my nipples and LJ, groin areas. Had a little chat with my very basic TV.

Catbath was not so bad as I thought it would be minimum and rushed. She pulled up her shirt, exposed her C breasts. Spent a good amt of time licking sucking my nips and balls groin area before bbbj. Suction ok with limited tongue action. Abt 10mins cim. Not the full blown cim. Her mouth just covered tip of penis while she hj when I cummed, and stopped when I not yet shot finished, so not too shioked. I already set a low expectation when I walked in, so she already exceed my standards slightly. Anyway, tipped her 20k extra for Tet. Hoped not crashing the market by doing so.

Last night, went recce around ba vi/ thang long/ giai phong. A couple shops were opened, but didn't go in, just biking around.

From my experience here in HCM (around 5mths), as long you are neat looking polite and not too bun Xin, and knows some basic TV, and with a couple of local friends, it's not hard to hook up with some decent girls around. Not working ladies, but uni students/ working class girls. Plenty of them speaking above average english, some even chinese, interested to know you. Making friends is easy, sometimes (abt 20% of them) can get free bonks. I stayed a full month each time i come. For few-days travelers, maybe not much time to socialize and mingle around, plenty of shops/ bars to find girls to release. Just my experience and personal sharing/ thoughts. Happy CNY to all.

[STUD100]

Gong xi fa chai to everyone here, may you huat tua tua and horse up gotch money! Most important is stay happy and stay healthy.

Back to topic, im going to HCMC during the mid-march. Probably staying in district 1 hotel (not sure where, but friend says its 3* and convenient).

Now, mission impossible, as we are traveling in a group of 10, some couples and the rest is single. Total 6men. We booked some day tour package, so that only left us with night time. Say if some men are down, for those who want to have fun or some quickie at massage center, any recommended ones? How about escorts? Can call the okt there to tell the ladies to come to our room one? Whats the charges like for massage HJ,BJ or FJ? Or the charges for escort to our room? In VND or USD? :)

It is a 4d3n quick trip, thus, its really kind of mission impossible as this is our first time to vietnam.

Appreciate if anyone here can help me out with some advice and recommendations.

GXGX huat ah!

[pho24]

It is a 4d3n quick trip, thus, its really kind of mission impossible as this is our first time to vietnam.
Appreciate if anyone here can help me out with some advice and recommendations

For all your questions: Find and Read H88 link
Before pm me pls click and read
Welcome to HCM Self Help DIY
Outside of HCM Many Beautiful Places

[theblindsniper]

HCM and Hanoi, which is better? more activities?

[youallsonice?]

Hi all, please excuse me, I need ask something off topic... Any seasoned samsters in Saigon know any reliable skilled motor repair shops/mechanics for some basic minor repairs/ maintenance? I would still go to authorized centers for original parts replacing or tuning or timing which other non-authorized shops may not know exact specifications/procedures? Preferably they could understand some basic English, at least the names of the motor parts? I'm staying near to bui vien.

I bought a 2nd hand SYM Excel 2, 150cc. Nice looking and cheap and quite powerful, 9M VND, purchased it at Phan Dang luu street (many 2nd hand bike shops along both sides of road). Used to rent bike @ 1M to 1.5M VND/ month. Since I always return back, figured might be more worth and more shiok to get own bike, then sell it back later, lets say 2M lesser, still not bad.

Any bros to suggest some shops? Will appreciate it very much... ^^

[phighter]

for tet found myself out in vung tau (non resort area).

quit a few brothels around, but a slightly different set up than what i'v seen in HCMC (i.e. these weren't hot tocs or MP, but... a mix of the two).

first one i popped into was offered FJ for 500k. never this easy in HCMC.

looks like ill be exploring Vung Tau in 2014 =] i'm more or less retired from HCMC exploration (will just stick with what i know here).

i'll be making it out here most free weekends that i have until i really get to know the city. if anyone has any starting points, please let me know :]

[pho24]

Hi all, please excuse me, I need ask something off topic... Any seasoned samsters in Saigon know any reliable skilled motor repair shops/mechanics for some basic minor repairs/ maintenance? I would still go to authorized centers for original parts replacing or tuning or timing which other non-authorized shops may not know exact specifications/procedures? Preferably they could understand some basic English, at least the names of the motor parts? I'm staying near to bui vien.
Used to rent bike @ 1M to 1.5M VND/ month. Since I always return back, figured might be more worth and more shiok to get own bike
Any bros to suggest some shops? Will appreciate it very much... ^^

Knew of an highly skilled one however Its very difficult finding xe may mechanic that speak English in Saigon

Suggest you seeks help intro one from the moto bike renter..

[mutantchicken]

for tet found myself out in vung tau (non resort area).

quit a few brothels around, but a slightly different set up than what i'v seen in HCMC (i.e. these weren't hot tocs or MP, but... a mix of the two).

first one i popped into was offered FJ for 500k. never this easy in HCMC.

looks like ill be exploring Vung Tau in 2014 =] i'm more or less retired from HCMC exploration (will just stick with what i know here).

i'll be making it out here most free weekends that i have until i really get to know the city. if anyone has any starting points, please let me know :]

the viet language 4run talk abt places where its 70k ticket tip the girls 400-500k...i went to a few that where decent but the trip to vt plus getting a hotel room plus fucking on a massage table negates the advantage of the cheapness and the of getting fs in vt cf to hcmc.
This was when u could regularly get fs her for 650-700k..now its 800 but still not worth the trip specifically for it. I found one in vt where the quality of the girls is quite high for 200+500 but not sure if price has increased and again im noty sure adress just know how to get there, but im sure if u make small talk with xe om guys in vt u can get the specifics of location

[PuNkDeViL]

dear seniors...

please do advise me how much should I bring (excluding hotel/airfares) for 5 days 4 nights trip.

My plan is to chiong massage/saloon (3 days) and chiong ktv (2 or 3 days) and perhaps dabao 1 girl for overnight..

Hope senior bros and advise me... thanks !! :)

[phighter]

dear seniors...

please do advise me how much should I bring (excluding hotel/airfares) for 5 days 4 nights trip.

My plan is to chiong massage/saloon (3 days) and chiong ktv (2 or 3 days) and perhaps dabao 1 girl for overnight..

Hope senior bros and advise me... thanks !! :)

while prices vary depending on location/girl, i'll give u the range. lower prices = local fare while higher prices more for foreigners (unless ur okay with run down places, i suggest considering the higher prices)

massage: 200k to 500k
salon (no happy ending): 70k to 500k (infamous le duyen is more 400k-500k)
salon (happy ending): 150k to 400k
ktv: ~1m per person include tip for everyone except girls (tip about 300k for girl).
overnight: 1m to 3m.

[phighter]

I found one in vt where the quality of the girls is quite high for 200+500 but not sure if price has increased and again im noty sure adress just know how to get there, but im sure if u make small talk with xe om guys in vt u can get the specifics of location

yup, but i've got other reasons to be out there, so might as well save my cheong budget for new places rather than my same-ole okt.

by the way, i took a good look at the building i talked to you about earlier - and i think it is the apartments you are talking about. the apartment building is built like a fortress. but i think they changed business model i.e. have to go to nearby hotel. ;]

[youallsonice?]

dear seniors...

please do advise me how much should I bring (excluding hotel/airfares) for 5 days 4 nights trip.

My plan is to chiong massage/saloon (3 days) and chiong ktv (2 or 3 days) and perhaps dabao 1 girl for overnight..

Hope senior bros and advise me... thanks !! :)

Sorry bro, i no senior in HCM, just keep trial and error exploring here, and researching before chionging to avoid getting chopped or spoiling market. Would u have a local guide/friend to bring u around for good places? dabao chio girl overnight for 4 nights might cost near to 10M already.. KTV 3 nights roughly 3-5M. Massage/saloon 3 trips 1-2M, depending you know where to go.

If me, I would bring another 30-50% more to be safe and comfortable. Anyway, there is always credit card to use in most KTVs. TS has a nice list of KTVs/Bars/Clubs/saloons etc (see his signature) you can refer to.

[Dixiontse]

while prices vary depending on location/girl, i'll give u the range. lower prices = local fare while higher prices more for foreigners (unless ur okay with run down places, i suggest considering the higher prices)

massage: 200k to 500k
salon (no happy ending): 70k to 500k (infamous le duyen is more 400k-500k)
salon (happy ending): 150k to 400k it's hard to find coz mostly hidden..and if u don't speak ting viet..more less chances
ktv: ~1m per person include tip for everyone except girls (tip about 300k for girl).
overnight: 1m to 3m.

btw..im going aqain saigon in this MAY bringing 3 people to explore.. and sifu can share the saloon with happy ending? few trips go there haven't been to this kind of joint..only been to benny and those normal saloon like le duyen and bar 91,45 etc.. feels like going back to dist 7 again after disappointment time at dist 7..and might explore VT if any seniors got namd and add for massage and st at vt..thanks.. IT"S GREAT TO BE BACK!! :D
IT:S GREAT TO BE BACK!:D

[BoyFriend]

while prices vary depending on location/girl, i'll give u the range. lower prices = local fare while higher prices more for foreigners (unless ur okay with run down places, i suggest considering the higher prices)

massage: 200k to 500k
salon (no happy ending): 70k to 500k (infamous le duyen is more 400k-500k)
salon (happy ending): 150k to 400k
ktv: ~1m per person include tip for everyone except girls (tip about 300k for girl).
overnight: 1m to 3m.

Mr Phighter, can advise on which rd name do you usually stay? Or which rd name you recommend for good massage with nice gal (tabaoable) and good street food? Thanks for sharing the market rate..

[phighter]

happy ending salon: these are local fares, dirtier places, milfs unless you hunt, etc. and mostly outside of D1 (i.e. behind airport, etc). for example - massage tables have sheets that aren't changed at all, girls spit on the floor that isn't mopped, girls don't use mouthwash, etc. honestly, not many sammies would be happy going to these places.

street i stay? i'm local so i live out in Binh Thanh district. Suggest you stick with Ben Thanh area (Cho Ben Thanh or around Le Thanh Ton/Hai Ba Trung area) if your looking for a place to stay.

massage with taobao girls - i don't know what taobao means, but many MP around D1 with very attractive girls giving HJs. MP are not the places to find girls to book outside. BJ MPs are rare and do exist, but I have no recommendation within D1 or surrounding districts as its a rare business model these days (if you are willing to travel to say... Thu Duc, then i know).

There are few MP girls/places that will offer to go to hotel with you, but its hit or miss. of say... 30 MP trips i've had 2 girls offer (2M for 4 hours and only before they start their shift the next morning i.e. 9AM to 1PM).

best place IMO to find a bookable girl is KTV. you can get a motorbike girl but mostly shit service. atleast KTV girls u can spend some time with, get to know her, etc. which means she will more likely give okay and above service. also few places around here and there which line up 10-20 attractive girls for you to choose, but again, very very shit service.

[BoyFriend]

happy ending salon: these are local fares, dirtier places, milfs unless you hunt, etc. and mostly outside of D1 (i.e. behind airport, etc). for example - massage tables have sheets that aren't changed at all, girls spit on the floor that isn't mopped, girls don't use mouthwash, etc. honestly, not many sammies would be happy going to these places.

street i stay? i'm local so i live out in Binh Thanh district. Suggest you stick with Ben Thanh area (Cho Ben Thanh or around Le Thanh Ton/Hai Ba Trung area) if your looking for a place to stay.

massage with taobao girls - i don't know what taobao means, but many MP around D1 with very attractive girls giving HJs. MP are not the places to find girls to book outside. BJ MPs are rare and do exist, but I have no recommendation within D1 or surrounding districts as its a rare business model these days (if you are willing to travel to say... Thu Duc, then i know).

There are few MP girls/places that will offer to go to hotel with you, but its hit or miss. of say... 30 MP trips i've had 2 girls offer (2M for 4 hours and only before they start their shift the next morning i.e. 9AM to 1PM).

best place IMO to find a bookable girl is KTV. you can get a motorbike girl but mostly shit service. atleast KTV girls u can spend some time with, get to know her, etc. which means she will more likely give okay and above service. also few places around here and there which line up 10-20 attractive girls for you to choose, but again, very very shit service.

Thank u Bro for sharing such enriching info. It will definitely benefit the sammies visiting HCM. Will heed ur advice to patron the ktv rather than MP. Does the ktv gal understand mandarin/english/hokkien/teochew? Wats ur opinion on the market rate for bringing the ktv gal out for overnite session? Say, 1 am to 10 am. Btw, tabao means bring out gal to hotel. Thanx a million for your sharing.

[mutantchicken]

happy ending salon: these are local fares, dirtier places, milfs unless you hunt, etc. and mostly outside of D1 (i.e. behind airport, etc). for example - massage tables have sheets that aren't changed at all, girls spit on the floor that isn't mopped, girls don't use mouthwash, etc. honestly, not many sammies would be happy going to these places.

street i stay? i'm local so i live out in Binh Thanh district. Suggest you stick with Ben Thanh area (Cho Ben Thanh or around Le Thanh Ton/Hai Ba Trung area) if your looking for a place to stay.

massage with taobao girls - i don't know what taobao means, but many MP around D1 with very attractive girls giving HJs. MP are not the places to find girls to book outside. BJ MPs are rare and do exist, but I have no recommendation within D1 or surrounding districts as its a rare business model these days (if you are willing to travel to say... Thu Duc, then i know).

There are few MP girls/places that will offer to go to hotel with you, but its hit or miss. of say... 30 MP trips i've had 2 girls offer (2M for 4 hours and only before they start their shift the next morning i.e. 9AM to 1PM).

best place IMO to find a bookable girl is KTV. you can get a motorbike girl but mostly shit service. atleast KTV girls u can spend some time with, get to know her, etc. which means she will more likely give okay and above service. also few places around here and there which line up 10-20 attractive girls for you to choose, but again, very very shit service.

i agree with everything except that massage with bj is rare...this is teh new businessmodel now that laot of teh hot hoc bj have been shut down..but none in d1..try d5 or further out..in thu duc and binh duong that seems to be the norm

[BobDole]

Hi All,

My first visit to Vietnam just before CNY. I was travelling with relatives and friends. I didn't expect any hanky pankies given that I was sharing a room with group members.

For the interest of Hurricane88 and others who are planning to visit Nha Trang, Da Nang, Hue and Hoi An in the future, my travel log below may help you.

HCMC

Landed in HCMC in the afternoon. The airport smells like a Vietnamese grocery shop (sweet & sour).

Had my return flight e-ticket printed just in case the immigration officer "fined" me for not having one. Before queuing up at the immigration desks, looked around to avoid chi bai face officers. Ok. Queue up on the female officer line. She asked me whether I speak Viet. I replied no. I am no Viet but my name has similarities. I think she was trying to find an excuse to "fined" me. Clear that hurdle and Custom.

Got out of Custom. There is a row of stalls on the left that sells mobile SIM cards and transport/hotel services. I went for Vinaphone and the group went for Mobifone. I went for 600Mb data for about 186k Dong. Mobifone are slightly more expensive. I'm getting HSDP+ speed most of the time. No problem with either company during our stay. I asked a Malaysian guy queuing up at Vinaphone his experience. He said he use it whenever he is in VN. He is picking his replacement SIM as he left his at home.

Already arranged hotel to pick us up so no experience in getting taxi voucher.

Boss Hotel 3 is very standard and clean. Hotel manager warned us about flashing mobile phones and cameras around (haizzz these youngsters), thieves are particularly active before New Year.

We had dinner on a boat, Tau Ben Nghe, follow by a river cruise. The boat moored just opposite the Majestic Hotel. It has a feature of a fish.
We had hot pot which is similar to steamboat. Food is good. My first 333 beer. The whole dinner worked out about $11 pp inclusing seafood, beer and river cruise.

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Nha Trang

Alarm went off before day break. Jumped out of bed and waking up the others. Then realised that I adjusted my watch but not the mobile. I was an hour too early!

First time on Vietnam Airlines. Fully-serviced price that served water only. The Russian/Ukrainian pilot landing was smooth.

Cam Rahn Airport is at least 30 minutes away from Nha Trang. There are a number of resorts planned along the road to Nha Trang but they are just sand dunes and cliffs currently.

Nha Trang is what I called Russian's Bali. Majority of our hotel's guests are Russians. Hotel pool is full of beached whales and walruses. Didn't see any Russky beauties of Sharapova quality until we went to Vinpearl island the next day.

Had my fisrt Mi Hoanh Thanh (Won ton mee). Realised that some of their loan words sound Cantonese, like Xi Yau (Soy Source, not sure of spelling). Some group members had local famous fish soup noodles.

Our hotel is at the northern part of Nha Trang away from the pubs and night clubs but closer to local market (Cho Dam). If you want actions, then stay in middle part of the town near Nha Trang Centre. Like Wikitravel stated, Nha Trang is dead after 10 pm. Only hookers and drunks after hours.

Nha Trang is famous for their sea produce. If you are interested to buy cultured pearl for your love ones, the road-side stalls on Hai Ba Trung leading to Cho Dam market sells them. Pearls come in different colours, white, black, silver and pink. Haggled like crazy but we have relos that speak Viet.

Nem Nuong @ Vu Thanh An Restaurant on Le Loi. Like satay but wrapped the meat together with raw banana, salad, garlic (yes, must try the local small garlic) with rice paper. A true beer food. Biah Saigon has more hops than 333 so more bitter.

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Vinpearl island. Can't afford to stay at the resort but just there for the theme park. The theme park has both wet and dry activities and an underwater world. Cable car across is longer and taller than Santosa. Cost 500k for the theme park rides, cable car and underwater world. We went during winter so the beach was closed due to rough sea. Unless you are into theme parks, you can skip Vinpearl but if you want to see dua neh neh Russian in bikinis then go. Note your mileage may very as there are probably more beached whale than beauties. Other sea activities are out of the questions as the sea is rough; SCUBA or snorkelling in soup is not my cup of tea. Relos said by March the sea is calm like a lake.

Mud Bath @ i-Resort Hot Mineral Spring. There are different packages but this one doesn't offer massage. The drill is change into swimming costume provided. Sit in a huge tub and they filled it with warm clay water. Wash body and face with muddy water. Out of water into warm shawer in the open. Back into the tub with herbal brew. Get out and move to a pool of hot spring water. Out of water again and sprayed by chilled water fountain. Finally move to a warm swimming pool. My skin was tingling after this shock treatment. After that choose a snack. I had tempura prawns.

Vietnamese BBQ @ Lac Canh Restaurant on 11 Hang Ca. Like Korean BBQ all DIY. Sotong, prawns, beef, pork, chicken... Goes down so well with Biah 333.

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Hua Hung Bakery on 39 Phan Boi Chau made nice cakes.

Note: I am not affiliated with any of the venues mentions in my posts.

Next stop, Da Nang.

[sammykia]

Bros, any idea if Hoang Hai Long South (56 - 58 Pham Hong Thai, District 1) is girl friendly as well?
Saw there is HHL 1, HHL2 and HHLS under the same group.

[Hurricane88]

Mr Phighter, can advise on which rd name do you usually stay? Or which rd name you recommend for good massage with nice gal (tabaoable) and good street food? Thanks for sharing the market rate..

why dun you click and read my Self Help DIY...plenty of places to eat...:)


Does the ktv gal understand mandarin/english/hokkien/teochew? Wats ur opinion on the market rate for bringing the ktv gal out for overnite session? Say, 1 am to 10 am. Btw, tabao means bring out gal to hotel. Thanx a million for your sharing.

why dun you search my thread...use the thread search feature...:)

Bros, any idea if Hoang Hai Long South (56 - 58 Pham Hong Thai, District 1) is girl friendly as well?
Saw there is HHL 1, HHL2 and HHLS under the same group.

never stay before...why dun you ask the hotel...or select one from my Self Help DIY list...:)

[Hurricane88]

For the interest of Hurricane88 and others who are planning to visit Nha Trang, Da Nang, Hue and Hoi An in the future, my travel log below may help you.

Next stop, Da Nang.

thank you for sharing your experiences...I had visited Nha Trang before...:)

[iSaigon]

.

I want to thank H88 for teaching me everything he know about HCM and also make me learn to speak and type basic Tieng Viet within 30 days. I am very happy to be able to speak to locals in VN, and they really warm up to me when I utter my lousy TV and they are all willing to teach me more TV everytime I eat and drink with the locals.

The VN experience is priceless.

Wish everyone Huat Ahhhhh!:D

PS: For those whom wonder whether I did learn TV in 30 days?
It is true; and I did it because of a girl I promise to converse in Tieng Viet 30 days later. I kept my promise.

You are good! :) I can't even if i wanted to.

[BobDole]

We bid farewell to Nha Trang and flew to Da Nang, our base for the next few days. Vietnam Airlines' Russian captain performed a perfect landing again. However, their non-existent food service is a letdown.

Da Nang
Da Nang is very laid back compare to HCMC.

Since we were a large group, travelling to places requires a minivan. We used Dich Vu Du Lich - Sa Lem tel: 0913 431 850, 0122 255 5610.

My Khe Beach (China Beach). Again, wrong time of the year. March/April would be good. Saw a huge statue of Goddess of Mercy lit up across the bay. Will explore later.

Han River Promenade runs between Bach Dang Road and Han River. Good view of the Dragon Bridge and Rainbow Bridge. One night I went for night photography with my group member. As we walked past a man, I thought he was urinating into the river. Double-take. Hello, there was a pair of squatting legs between the railings and the man!

Nui Son Tra. Huge Goddess of Mercy statue. From here, good view of Da Nang across the bay. Temple shop has sandalwood mala bracelets. Not as cheap as Xa Loi Pagoda at HCMC (District 3) but treat that as a donation to the temple.

Marble Mountain. Inside there is a huge cave but not as big as Batu Cave near KL. Can hear bats. Underground cavern has statues depicting hell similar to Haw Par Villa. Once you've been to hell, climb up and pray to Di Zhang Wang Pu Sha (Ksitigarbha, 地藏王菩萨) for delivering you out of Hades before climbing the steps to heaven. Good view from the top.

Bana Hills. This place is half finished. Reminds me of Genting (though no casino) in the 70's where there are still constructions going on. The cable car ride to the top is not worth 500k. Most rides at the theme park require additional fees. There is a temple and pagoda up there. I can't see why it received 4 stars on Tripadvisor. Maybe an ang moh's thing. Don't bother.

Food-wise, it is cheaper than HCMC. We had our real street food one evening. Fully-cooked so no problem. Two notable eateries are:

A-Hai Com Ga (Chicken rice) on Thai Phien. Chicken boiled and deep fried, served with fried rice. Their business is so good that they have three shopfronts on the same street. One across the road, one served as their kitchen.

Sorry left phone at the hotel so no photo of the chicken rice.

Nem Lui & Banh Khoai pancake @ Phu Hong on 19 Yen Bai. Satay stick meat and salad wrapped in rice paper. Their pancakes are sprinkled with bean sprouts and prawns. Both dishes are Hue origins.

Nem Lui
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Banh Khoai being cooked
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Hue

Early departure from Da Nang for a day trip to Hue, the Nguyen Dynasty capital. It was along way (2 hrs?).

First stop Imperial Citadel. Smaller version compare to Beijing's Palace Museum. Even their Tahi Hoa Hall (太和殿) is much smaller compare to the Chinese's. The empress' residence is still under renovation. In fact the whole place needs major renovation after two major battles that took place here. There is also a museum displaying vases, canons etc.

Tu Duc's tomb is the only royal tomb we visited.

Local dish is Bun Bo Hue (Beef Noodle Soup).. yum. Bought some Me Xung (chewy peanut sesame candies) to distribute at home.

Bun Bo Hue
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Hoi An

To me, Hoi An is similar to Malacca. It is about 30 minutes south of Da Nang.

Facilities-wise, accommodation and food are cheaper the further away you are from the river. Restaurants and pubs along the river charge tourist price but they are always packed.

Local speciality is a noodle dish call Cau Lau. We tried it at Sunshine Cafe on 46 Tran Cao Van. There are a number of good reviewed hotels in this area, away from the crowd.

Cau Lau
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White Rose Dumplings @ White Rose 555 Hai Ba Trung.

Tailored Suit @ Nhatsilk on 36 Tran Hung Dao. There are a number of tailors around but relo picked this one because of his previous good experience. Due to the number of orders and adjustments, we could not pick up the suits on the same day. Two suits had to be delivered to our hotel room in Da Nang after we left Hoi An on the third day.

In Hoi An Old Town, you buy a ticket and decide which places of interest you want to visit. The ticket doesn't allow you to see all. Hockien Meeting Hall, Cantonese Assembly Hall, Japanese Bridge must visit.

Didn't have the chance to visit My Son ruins 20 kms away. The sea condition doesn't allow enjoyable SCUBA/Snorkelling at Cam Island either.

Back to Da Nang to catch a flight to HCMC.

Note: I have no association with the vendors mentioned above.

[lamergod]

Any bro can kindly recommend some good clubbing scene in HCMC ? As in big discotheque something like New Square Club in Hanoi etc...

[Dixiontse]

just wanna ask if those dirty saloon still exist/active near Ba Vi , Giai Phong street? going to explore this May...hehe :D
and currently in dealing with Thien Xuan hotel for booking(in e-mail)..but the manager there insist me to pay full payment which is USD 163(plus 3% from bank credit charge) full amount to them for the booking because he said that the date I go is HIGH SEASON for travel..so any suggestion from seniors here? should I bank in for them? or go there only book? coz normally I book hotel at hcmc (Indochine & Boss 1) there's no need to deposit for the hotel..
Thanks..

[phighter]

just wanna ask if those dirty saloon still exist/active near Ba Vi , Giai Phong street? going to explore this May...hehe :D
and currently in dealing with Thien Xuan hotel for booking(in e-mail)..but the manager there insist me to pay full payment which is USD 163(plus 3% from bank credit charge) full amount to them for the booking because he said that the date I go is HIGH SEASON for travel..so any suggestion from seniors here? should I bank in for them? or go there only book? coz normally I book hotel at hcmc (Indochine & Boss 1) there's no need to deposit for the hotel..
Thanks..

just use www.agoda.com bro. $31 USD per night at Thien Xuan.

[sailsingapore]

Any bro can kindly recommend some good clubbing scene in HCMC ? As in big discotheque something like New Square Club in Hanoi etc...

ATTICA BAR : https://www.facebook.com/AtticaBar

[Dixiontse]

just use www.agoda.com bro. $31 USD per night at Thien Xuan.

Thanks for the reply..but I take the room for 3 person..not 2 person..anyway agoda price is much cheaper then the price he offer to me.

[Hurricane88]

ju
and currently in dealing with Thien Xuan hotel for booking(in e-mail)..but the manager there insist me to pay full payment which is USD 163(plus 3% from bank credit charge) full amount to them for the booking because he said that the date I go is HIGH SEASON for travel..


I have never paid in advance for hotel in hcm for all my years travel here...hehe...:)

Any bro can kindly recommend some good clubbing scene in HCMC ? As in big discotheque something like New Square Club in Hanoi etc...

click and read my HCM self help DIY...look for disco...most are big famous disco...:)

[Dixiontse]

[QUOTE=Hurricane88;10464532]I have never paid in advance for hotel in hcm for all my years travel here...hehe...:)

this hotel is from your list and I already confirm with the manager there I can bring girls to overnight..plus this hotel has a high rating at tripadvisor..price is cheaper compare to tan hai long and A&EM..hehe..gonna prepare more homework to discover more hidden place like airport fs..

[lamergod]

Thank u Bro SailSingapore and Hurricane88 ;)

[volcano]

Thanks for the reply..but I take the room for 3 person..not 2 person..anyway agoda price is much cheaper then the price he offer to me.



all hotels which have dealings with Agoda will not offer a price lower then Agoda...its an agreement between them.

all online hotel booking website will require customers to pay in advance.refunds for cancellations are base on hotel's policy.

for those that are uncomfortable with paying upfront,i am booking agent for several 1-3 star hotel located in District 1.the price is the hotel rake price,customers can check out the price from the hotel website.

reservations for hotel rooms will be made under my name and payments direct to the hotel when check out.

for those that are interested,simply send me a PM.

[volcano]

Any bro can kindly recommend some good clubbing scene in HCMC ? As in big discotheque something like New Square Club in Hanoi etc...


39 Kumho and 02 Gold Club are considered as the current hottest...but its only suitable for people that likes techno...

do go before 11pm if u are heading down on the weekend.

[mutantchicken]

Any bro can kindly recommend some good clubbing scene in HCMC ? As in big discotheque something like New Square Club in Hanoi etc...

go onto facebook and look where the girls post there party pics this will give u idea where local girls go and what they look like...or u can just follow the herd end up in a place full or PR girls and old desperate fucks

just wanna ask if those dirty saloon still exist/active .

What is available now might not be available in May or whenever it is that u said u are going so just be aware of that

[naemlo]

all hotels which have dealings with Agoda will not offer a price lower then Agoda...its an agreement between them.


Depends... I can get better price than agoda for a hotel I regular in HCMC. I always email or yahoo the recept. :eek:

[BobDole]

Any bro can kindly recommend some good clubbing scene in HCMC ? As in big discotheque something like New Square Club in Hanoi etc...

Anyone been to Ace Nighclub on 21 Nguyễn Trung Ngạn?
https://www.facebook.com/acenightclubhcm

[BobDole]

While it may not be a nightclub, in the same building as Gossip (Ground floor) and Dai Nam Spa (2nd floor) there is a "Gentlemen's Club" on 4th floor.

Anyone know anything about this "Gentlemen's Club"? I dare not go in case is a black op.

[Dixiontse]

go onto facebook and look where the girls post there party pics this will give u idea where local girls go and what they look like...or u can just follow the herd end up in a place full or PR girls and old desperate fucks



What is available now might not be available in May or whenever it is that u said u are going so just be aware of that

thanks for the reply MC..its excited when going to explore..haha I'll look for the frosty glasses and neon lights right? hehe

[volcano]

Anyone been to Ace Nighclub on 21 Nguyễn Trung Ngạn?
https://www.facebook.com/acenightclubhcm



same owner as Sin Lounge.

why leh....:confused:

[lamergod]

Thanks bros for sharing ^ . ^ Shall venture next week and spend valentine day over there. :cool:

[cavem@n]

Hi Bros,

I planning to go for a weekend trip to HCM in April. Was intending to play golf there and the "19 hole" in the night. Can anyone suggest me how to go about it? I have read though the hotels and will select from one of the 3 stars that are gal friendly though. For a weekend trip this this, roughly how much will that be? Thanks in advance bros.

[BobDole]

same owner as Sin Lounge.

why leh....:confused:

Friend mentioned Ace before and I haven't been so ask bros here to comment.

What's the matter that it has the same owner as Sin Lounge? I never been either. Care to comment on Sin Lounge as well?

If black op then I won't go next time to be roberto.

[stormberg]

Anyone tried to sneak girls into service apartment before? Do they really check?

[BoyFriend]

Bro Hurricane88, your DIY stated ktv shorttime: US$100 & longtime: US$150, but need to go thru mamasan.. market price for mamasan tip how much huh?
To "fish" for girls at Tan Hai Van or DNKY restaurants having supper, wats the damage for LT? SOP is take their number and call them.. BUT.. I dont know Viet leh.. call liao can only 无语问苍天..

[volcano]

Anyone tried to sneak girls into service apartment before? Do they really check?


some service apartment do allow female guest at night.

best is to check with it first

[Hurricane88]

Bro Hurricane88, your DIY stated ktv shorttime: US$100 & longtime: US$150, but need to go thru mamasan.. market price for mamasan tip how much huh?
To "fish" for girls at Tan Hai Van or DNKY restaurants having supper, wats the damage for LT? SOP is take their number and call them.. BUT.. I dont know Viet leh.. call liao can only 无语问苍天..

mamasan tips around 200 - 400k depends on location and your dealings with her...normally need to tip asst mummy too...another 200 to 400k...:)

around 2am in the morning and LT will mean gal leave around 7am...so why bother to ask for LT...if gal willing to go hotel then just nego and pay her what you think reasonable...pay KTV rate or lower is reasonable...:)

many samsters dun know viet but have been bonking viet gals...so you dun try you never know...nothing to lose...use technology today to assist you...:)

[Hurricane88]

oh great news...:)

http://www.vietcombank.com.vn/ExchangeRates/Default.aspx?&lang=en

SGD staged a comeback against VND...hippy...kkkkkk...:)

[Accord_JDM]

hi bros,

i never been to vietnam and is planning to visit HCMC next month with 2 friends who are also new.
likely will go for only 4d3n trip.

can the experienced bros recommend and advise me the following;
1. which hotel (min 4stars) good to stay which will allows girls to stay overnight
2. which ktv to go with reasonable pricing and many pretty girls and able to bring back
3. which disco best to go pick girls to bring back hotel
4. which massage or saloon (happy ending) to go
5. the costs for all the above... (need to do budgeting)

many thanks.

[biasaigon]

oh great news...:)

http://www.vietcombank.com.vn/ExchangeRates/Default.aspx?&lang=en

SGD staged a comeback against VND...hippy...kkkkkk...:)

Good news. More money to spend.

[BoyFriend]

mamasan tips around 200 - 400k depends on location and your dealings with her...normally need to tip asst mummy too...another 200 to 400k...:)

around 2am in the morning and LT will mean gal leave around 7am...so why bother to ask for LT...if gal willing to go hotel then just nego and pay her what you think reasonable...pay KTV rate or lower is reasonable...:)

many samsters dun know viet but have been bonking viet gals...so you dun try you never know...nothing to lose...use technology today to assist you...:)

Bro Hurricane88,

US$100 for 5hr of "unlimited access" happiness with viet syt..
worth it..
Thanx a million for your advice.. 果然，仕途老马.. wish u 马到功成

[pho24]

Vietnam open its door to McDonald's - Today Saturday 8th February 2014
Flagship Restaurant @ Dien Bien Phu

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424127887324348504578609363895591172

[Hurricane88]

Bro Hurricane88,

US$100 for 5hr of "unlimited access" happiness with viet syt..
worth it..
Thanx a million for your advice.. 果然，仕途老马.. wish u 马到功成

haha...you are most welcome...if you are my friend...shall bring you the hottest and top rated VBs and let you enjoy "unlimited happiness" which is too good to be true...hahaha...:)

[biasaigon]

haha...you are most welcome...if you are my friend...shall bring you the hottest and top rated VBs and let you enjoy "unlimited happiness" which is too good to be true...hahaha...:)

You have pm.

[Singkieu]

oh great news...:)

http://www.vietcombank.com.vn/ExchangeRates/Default.aspx?&lang=en

SGD staged a comeback against VND...hippy...kkkkkk...:)

Per your link, Vietcombank buying rate 1 SGD = VND 16,153

"Great news"??? :confused:

[BobDole]

hi bros,

i never been to vietnam and is planning to visit HCMC next month with 2 friends who are also new.
likely will go for only 4d3n trip.

can the experienced bros recommend and advise me the following;
1. which hotel (min 4stars) good to stay which will allows girls to stay overnight
2. which ktv to go with reasonable pricing and many pretty girls and able to bring back
3. which disco best to go pick girls to bring back hotel
4. which massage or saloon (happy ending) to go
5. the costs for all the above... (need to do budgeting)

many thanks.

Have you read Hurricane88's DIY guide? It's on his signature blog. Your answers are there but your mileage may very. Read, experiment and report back your experience.

[KatoeyLover69]

Report from AFP dated 8 February 2014 :-

Communist Vietnam gets first taste of the Big Mac

HO CHI MINH CITY - Four decades after the Vietnam war ended, US fast-food giant McDonald's opened its first restaurant in the communist country Saturday, aiming to lure a rising middle class away from rice and noodles.

The arrival of one of the most potent symbols of US capitalism in southern Ho Chi Minh City -- known as Saigon when American troops dramatically withdrew in1975 -- is the result of a partnership with the son-in-law of Vietnam’s powerful Prime Minister Nguyen Tan Dung.

McDonald’s is following US rivals Burger King, KFC and coffee giant Starbucks into Vietnam -- a country many Americans associate more with an unpopular war than a newly wealthy middle class.

But with its 90 million-strong population and average per capita income of more than $1,500, "Vietnam is on the radar now" for US franchises, said Sean Ngo, managing director of consulting firm Vietnam Franchises Ltd.

Critics say that Vietnam’s rapid economic growth since "Doi Moi" reforms opened up the country in the early 1990s masks rising inequality and inefficiencies in an economy still dominated by state-owned enterprises.

But signs of the country’s rising affluence were on display Saturday as hundreds of people queued at the McDonald’s store on Ho Chi Minh City’s Dien Bien Phu street -- named after the battle that forced the French to withdraw from their former colony Vietnam.
----- KatoeyNewsNetwork

[Botarbolampar]

Finally we have Mcdonald in Vietnam :D

[Hurricane88]

Finally we have Mcdonald in Vietnam :D

dun think i will spent any dong in Mcdonald...hehe...rather stick to my daily hu tiu, bun or mi...um ngon lam...:)

[biasaigon]

Have anyone wonder how many types of beer available in Vietnam?

Vietnam largest beer drinking country in Asean and ranked 3rd in Asia after China and Japan.

List of local beer
Bia Saigon, Bia Hanoi, BGI, Larue, 333


List of foreign beer
Tiger, Heineken, Sapporo, Corona Extra, Carlsberg

http://www.intage-thailand.com/upload/newflash/flash_09.pdf

http://tuoitrenews.vn/features-news/2215/vietnam-is-top-beer-drinking-nation-in-asean


Please add to the list if you drink other brands of beer here. I hope this topic of discussion is not off topic.

[Makashi]

Eating Mac in HCM is a waste of tummy space... So many good food are....

[xlr8]

Just went back to vien dong spa - overall the gals there are so hot :)
All the ones i wanted not free ended up with 41 who was average - nice smile huge C boobs and nice massage -HJ offered was good not great. She quite $$ face and not gfe type haha. Took VIP room for 650 good value :)

[naemlo]

dun think i will spent any dong in Mcdonald...hehe...rather stick to my daily hu tiu, bun or mi...um ngon lam...:)

In Phnom Penh, when Burger King started its 1st store in airport....the local drove all the way to airport just for Burger King.... Now they opened another in city, every meals full house.... U can see hundreds queuing up.

Cannot blame these ppl. We had Mc, BK donkey years ago, we find them nothing special but to Viet or Khmer, these all new....:eek: Given a choice I will rather eat proper local food than these junk food.

These countries are falling behind SG by yrs, maybe 10 yrs..... They are so excited that Hard Rock Cafe is opening in Cambodia... to us, HRC is antique... :D

[Singkieu]

In Phnom Penh, when Burger King started its 1st store in airport....the local drove all the way to airport just for Burger King.... Now they opened another in city, every meals full house.... U can see hundreds queuing up.

Cannot blame these ppl. We had Mc, BK donkey years ago, we find them nothing special but to Viet or Khmer, these all new....:eek: Given a choice I will rather eat proper local food than these junk food.

These countries are falling behind SG by yrs, maybe 10 yrs..... They are so excited that Hard Rock Cafe is opening in Cambodia... to us, HRC is antique... :D

BK opened in Singapore in 1982. HRC opened in Singapore in 1990.

On that basis, these countries are behind SG by 25-30 years.

[pho24]

Indochina wars
Vietnam was then divided into the communist-dominated north and the U.S.-supported south; war soon broke out between the two. North Vietnam won the war (the Vietnam War) despite heavy U.S. involvement, and the country was reunited in 1976.

Cambodia experienced its own civil war between communists and noncommunists during that period, which was won by the communist Khmer Rouge in 1975. After several years of horrifying atrocities under Pol Pot, the Vietnamese invaded in 1979 and installed a puppet government. Fighting between the Khmer Rouge and the Vietnamese continued throughout the 1980s;

Vietnam withdrew its troops by 1989. In 1993 UN-mediated elections established an interim government, and Cambodia's monarchy was reestablished

[fcukger]

... to us, HRC is antique... :D

but to you SYT is unique... lolx...

[singlun]

Going HCMC next monday..anybody will be there?let's cheong together! will be staying in Tan Binh, District 7.

[naemlo]

but to you SYT is unique... lolx...

nnkc... all syt have face, 2 eyes, 1 nose, 1 mouth... down, either shave or hairy pussy. :D What is unique? :eek:

[volcano]

Going HCMC next monday..anybody will be there?let's cheong together! will be staying in Tan Binh, District 7.



Tan Binh,District 7..????....:confused::confused::confused:

[iSaigon]

BK opened in Singapore in 1982. HRC opened in Singapore in 1990.

On that basis, these countries are behind SG by 25-30 years.

Well , can we safely say , we have at least 20 years to enjoy their good figure before it becomes washing boards like the ones in sg? That said , fast food has absolutely no nutrition whatsoever.

To me a ban mi is still better a better burger than most that you can find in sg.

[biasaigon]

To me a ban mi is still better a better burger than most that you can find in sg.

Me too rather eat local food then junkie food. Think better to drink beer saigon.

[XXed]

BK opened in Singapore in 1982. HRC opened in Singapore in 1990.

On that basis, these countries are behind SG by 25-30 years.

on the other hand, Singapore still doesn't have Lotteria and the first Jollibee only opened last year :p

I have to say though, that the BK in HCM taste better than SG and gives bigger portions :D

[XXed]

oh great news...:)

http://www.vietcombank.com.vn/ExchangeRates/Default.aspx?&lang=en

SGD staged a comeback against VND...hippy...kkkkkk...:)

changed at near 16500 last week... best times last year was close to 16900

[Hurricane88]

changed at near 16500 last week... best times last year was close to 16900

wah...so low...haizzz...last year highest I got was 17150...cannot recall which month...:)

[hunterhi]

It u change in New World Casnio using USD u get better rate... ☺️ Than outside... As they need more USD...

[Hurricane88]

It u change in New World Casnio using USD u get better rate... ☺️ Than outside... As they need more USD...

not advisable...just use SGD in Vietnam...no point to lose once when you change SGD to USD and then lose again USD to VND...double exchange losses...this is unless you have existing USD currencies in hand...:)

[volcano]

not advisable...just use SGD in Vietnam...no point to lose once when you change SGD to USD and then lose again USD to VND...double exchange losses...this is unless you have existing USD currencies in hand...:)


actually abt same same lah...Usd selling at 1.28 Sgd in Sinkie and Usd to Vnd is 21200.

[Hurricane88]

actually abt same same lah...Usd selling at 1.28 Sgd in Sinkie and Usd to Vnd is 21200.

why dun you try to do it then tell me about the same...haha...:p

even is the same...why bother to go to money changer in Singapore to change to USD when SGD is welcome in Vn...:)

if I change one pc SGD 1k note...then i get higher than using SGD 50 or SGD 100 notes...:)

[hunterhi]

Ya, agree...
But if u come to casino to play u just need to cash out thru ur CC or Debit Card in USD... Maybe u will get better rate than changing from Sing... 😊
Just my 2cent thinking...

not advisable...just use SGD in Vietnam...no point to lose once when you change SGD to USD and then lose again USD to VND...double exchange losses...this is unless you have existing USD currencies in hand...:)

[tryingurluck]

Any Bros know of any good places near the airport?

[naemlo]

actually abt same same lah...Usd selling at 1.28 Sgd in Sinkie and Usd to Vnd is 21200.

why dun you try to do it then tell me about the same...haha...:p


Just curious, how can these be the same? :confused: SGD to USD to VND vs SGD to VND?

[naemlo]

Any Bros know of any good places near the airport?

Burger King is there.

[Earthman]

changed at near 16500 last week... best times last year was close to 16900

I changed this morning near BX Mien Tay at 16600. Too far to go to Ben Thanh. Anyone changed at Ben Thanh today?

[Singkieu]

actually abt same same lah...Usd selling at 1.28 Sgd in Sinkie and Usd to Vnd is 21200.

why dun you try to do it then tell me about the same...haha...:p

even is the same...why bother to go to money changer in Singapore to change to USD when SGD is welcome in Vn...:)

if I change one pc SGD 1k note...then i get higher than using SGD 50 or SGD 100 notes...:)

Simple calculation what. Using volcano and XXed's rates as an example:

Buy USD in S'pore at 1.28 so SGD 128 = USD 100 take to VN to change @ VND 21.200 = VND 2.120.000.

Take SGD128 to VN and change at VND 16.500 = VND 2.112.000

So taking USD to VN to change is slightly better (VND 8000 per USD 100).

Of course if you take into account your expenses to get to VN (hotel, airfare, etc.) and the time it takes for you to buy USD at the money changer in S'pore, you might as well just bring SGD to VN to change.

[Dixiontse]

any Malaysian here change recently? near ben then market there? can let me know the rate? last year..i change rm1=6780 dong..i check in malaysia money exchange last week rm1 = 6500 dong only ...if got plz let me know..thanks..

[hunterhi]

Wa, 大哥, u like that also can?
Here also got seventeen... Izzt the same in Hanoi?

Hihihihi...

Burger King is there.

[phighter]

Throwing out a quick field report:

After a failed attempt to meet up with some sammies (you know who you are! :) but no worries) and have personal reasons to celebrate decided to head out and explore.

Stop 1: a local salon (le duyen style, but not le duyen). cute, young 18 year old, school girl type look in sexy blue dresses. 1 hour hair wash and face massage. damage 55k. feeling generous so i gave her 100k and told her keep the change (also it was a very good face massage). she's definitely my regular hair wash girl from now on. (location in Binh Thanh)

Stop 2: after looking for a new local bar that just opened up, i realized that its still closed for tet, so i explore and find a street in Go Vap district with some FJ chicken house (i think they are FJ, but I've never tried, however you can identify them with pink lights, and no chairs in front, just 1 or 2 chairs for the girls). However i couldn't see how good looking these girls were so I skipped them.

Further down the street there were a few hot tocs, a few cafe om, and 1 massage parlor. Quite a good density of hanky panky places.

Opt for Massage Parlor: Ticket 100k. Run down place. Girl was young and cute (18 year old range, bleached brown hair, fair light brown skin, nice face, large a cup/small b cup). Nice girl but not super talkative, didn't smile much and very mechanical in her massage. HJ sucked, with shit AR (won't let me pull down her blouse/bra to take a peak, panties tight as shit and when i was able to navigate my way in she moves away resetting all my efforts).

Anyways, i know myself, and i can't finish if I'm not atleast looking at a nipple, so I told her to stop.

After getting dressed i flip out a 100k, she starts to throw a hissy fit. I stand my ground that 100k is enough and she throws a tantrum. I knew i was going to give way but wanted to see if she'll budge. Eventually she grabs my 100k, bitches at me, and start heading out. I told her to stop, gave a defeated look, and whipped out another 100k (not trying to start shit with any gangsters protecting the place).

Stop 3: I literally push my bike next door to a cafe om. 2 girls and 1 mami sitting in front watching tv. 1 girl was skinny, fair skin, tall, not great face (okay). 1 girl was not fat, but not skinny, very cute face, and c cups! This place looked very shady, reminiscent of my recent trip to vung tau, so i'm praying for FJ with this girl. Just a HJ :( she let her titties drop, no AR down south. 120k damage. but damn she's cute. I'm inclined to pull a play, visit her a few times, pay the 120k, and just talk (no hj). See if i can get her outside during the day for a chat :)

[volcano]

Ya, agree...
But if u come to casino to play u just need to cash out thru ur CC or Debit Card in USD... Maybe u will get better rate than changing from Sing... 😊
Just my 2cent thinking...


there is a 2% charge base on the amount drawn from credit card.

[mutantchicken]

Throwing out a quick field report:

After a failed attempt to meet up with some sammies (you know who you are! :) but no worries) and have personal reasons to celebrate decided to head out and explore.

Stop 1: a local salon (le duyen style, but not le duyen). cute, young 18 year old, school girl type look in sexy blue dresses. 1 hour hair wash and face massage. damage 55k. feeling generous so i gave her 100k and told her keep the change (also it was a very good face massage). she's definitely my regular hair wash girl from now on. (location in Binh Thanh)

Stop 2: after looking for a new local bar that just opened up, i realized that its still closed for tet, so i explore and find a street in Go Vap district with some FJ chicken house (i think they are FJ, but I've never tried, however you can identify them with pink lights, and no chairs in front, just 1 or 2 chairs for the girls). However i couldn't see how good looking these girls were so I skipped them.

Further down the street there were a few hot tocs, a few cafe om, and 1 massage parlor. Quite a good density of hanky panky places.

Opt for Massage Parlor: Ticket 100k. Run down place. Girl was young and cute (18 year old range, bleached brown hair, fair light brown skin, nice face, large a cup/small b cup). Nice girl but not super talkative, didn't smile much and very mechanical in her massage. HJ sucked, with shit AR (won't let me pull down her blouse/bra to take a peak, panties tight as shit and when i was able to navigate my way in she moves away resetting all my efforts).

Anyways, i know myself, and i can't finish if I'm not atleast looking at a nipple, so I told her to stop.

After getting dressed i flip out a 100k, she starts to throw a hissy fit. I stand my ground that 100k is enough and she throws a tantrum. I knew i was going to give way but wanted to see if she'll budge. Eventually she grabs my 100k, bitches at me, and start heading out. I told her to stop, gave a defeated look, and whipped out another 100k (not trying to start shit with any gangsters protecting the place).

Stop 3: I literally push my bike next door to a cafe om. 2 girls and 1 mami sitting in front watching tv. 1 girl was skinny, fair skin, tall, not great face (okay). 1 girl was not fat, but not skinny, very cute face, and c cups! This place looked very shady, reminiscent of my recent trip to vung tau, so i'm praying for FJ with this girl. Just a HJ :( she let her titties drop, no AR down south. 120k damage. but damn she's cute. I'm inclined to pull a play, visit her a few times, pay the 120k, and just talk (no hj). See if i can get her outside during the day for a chat :)

this might be the same street i go to..tho the fj places i know the milfs wanst 200k for 20mins and the cafeom/hot tocs the charge is 120k for a bbbj more hand than mouth or 170k for a pure bbbj with a cim finish

[naemlo]

Simple calculation what. Using volcano and XXed's rates as an example:

Buy USD in S'pore at 1.28 so SGD 128 = USD 100 take to VN to change @ VND 21.200 = VND 2.120.000.

Take SGD128 to VN and change at VND 16.500 = VND 2.112.000

So taking USD to VN to change is slightly better (VND 8000 per USD 100).


U are using an ideal flat XXed's rates vs the reality of 3rd party (exchange agent and bank or others) selling/buying rates. No one on earth will sell currency at exactly what the financial market is.... they will earn few % of sell and buy.

At 12pm, VietinBank sells VND,

1 SGD = 16571 VND
1 USD = 21085 VND

At 12pm, DBS sells USD,

1 USD = 1.277 SGD

If I have I exchange 127.7 SGD to 100 USD and then change to VND, I will get 2108500 VND

If I exchange 127.7 SGD to VND, I will get 2116116.7 VND.

Lets move on with this... :D

[plman2002]

Burger King is there.

Got MacDonald??!!?!!?

[naemlo]

Got MacDonald??!!?!!?

Coming soon...

[plman2002]

Coming soon...

Wah, u beri well informed leh.

[peg80]

11/02/2014 outside ben thanh gold shop 16620 rate.

[Hurricane88]

11/02/2014 outside ben thanh gold shop 16620 rate.

thank you for sharing...think can get higher...:)

[Botarbolampar]

thank you for sharing...think can get higher...:)

17, 18 best 19,000 hahaha :D

[naemlo]

Wah, u beri well informed leh.

NNKC, it was all over the news.... Mc is going to Vietnam to fatten Vietnamese. :D

[Singkieu]

U are using an ideal flat XXed's rates vs the reality of 3rd party (exchange agent and bank or others) selling/buying rates. No one on earth will sell currency at exactly what the financial market is.... they will earn few % of sell and buy.

At 12pm, VietinBank sells VND,

1 SGD = 16571 VND
1 USD = 21085 VND

At 12pm, DBS sells USD,

1 USD = 1.277 SGD

If I have I exchange 127.7 SGD to 100 USD and then change to VND, I will get 2108500 VND

If I exchange 127.7 SGD to VND, I will get 2116116.7 VND.

Lets move on with this... :D

I did say mine was just an example, I used the rates mentioned by others to illustrate. Pleased that you followed the same principle using real time rates today and got a difference in the order of VND 4-12k from my bad example.

By the way, if you're a friend I'd sell you currency at exact current FX rates. ;)

[stormberg]

I change at ben thanh gold shop, today also 16620

[volcano]

17, 18 best 19,000 hahaha :D


dun want can bo...if not i very siong when come back Sinkie for "holiday" leh...:o

[biasaigon]

17, 18 best 19,000 hahaha :D

Agreed with you. Very happy if can go higher.

[plman2002]

NNKC, it was all over the news.... Mc is going to Vietnam to fatten Vietnamese. :D

Kaoz, u think everyone like u know abt hcm meh. Hehehe.

[naemlo]

Kaoz, u think everyone like u know abt hcm meh. Hehehe.

Kaoz, u dunno about hcmc meh?

[plman2002]

Kaoz, u dunno about hcmc meh?

If I know I won't hide in hotel n suck finger liao. :o

[naemlo]

If I know I won't hide in hotel n suck finger liao. :o

Discovery and Animal Planet are good. :D

[chxyz]

Throwing out a quick field report:

After a failed attempt to meet up with some sammies (you know who you are! :) but no worries) and have personal reasons to celebrate decided to head out and explore.

See if i can get her outside during the day for a chat :)

Nice report!! Wish that I had gone to explore together with you. :)

[V|ernar]

why dun you try to do it then tell me about the same...haha...:p

even is the same...why bother to go to money changer in Singapore to change to USD when SGD is welcome in Vn...:)

if I change one pc SGD 1k note...then i get higher than using SGD 50 or SGD 100 notes...:)

that only happen in CBT i think . they like 1 piece note .

[V|ernar]

If I know I won't hide in hotel n suck finger liao. :o

go out and have some fun la , staying in hcm hotel does you no good ~

[Hurricane88]

that only happen in CBT i think . they like 1 piece note .

Yup...they love big notes...demand by foreigners taking money out...:)

[bolueeleh]

Anyways, i know myself, and i can't finish if I'm not atleast looking at a nipple, so I told her to stop.


haha go to bien dong (name might be wrong, go many times but didnt bother to remember the name)massage in bien dong hotel at pham ngu lao, look for number 72, name my ngan, SYT, firm B+ to C cup boobs with pink nipples, the boobs automatically comes out of the bra, looking at her firm young boobs with pink nipples less than 1 minute shoot liao :D
plus moaning sound while licking your nipples

[bolueeleh]

have her wechat ID too but dont have time to explore further, busy working on another "case"

[pting]

Do you mean Vien dong hotel?

Wonder any bro here got lobang to recommend anyone on transportation or where can i rent a english speaking driver and car/Van for sightseeing around HCM.

haha go to bien dong (name might be wrong, go many times but didnt bother to remember the name)massage in bien dong hotel at pham ngu lao

[bolueeleh]

Do you mean Vien dong hotel?

Wonder any bro here got lobang to recommend anyone on transportation or where can i rent a english speaking driver and car/Van for sightseeing around HCM.

yes thank you, vien dong

[jackbl]

that only happen in CBT i think . they like 1 piece note .

Anyone knows where in Hanoi has Money changer similar to CBT whereby there are 2-3 offering good rates?

[XXed]

If I know I won't hide in hotel n suck finger liao. :o

kns, ask you come join me you dun want :rolleyes:

[mutantchicken]

haha go to bien dong (name might be wrong, go many times but didnt bother to remember the name)massage in bien dong hotel at pham ngu lao, look for number 72, name my ngan, SYT, firm B+ to C cup boobs with pink nipples, the boobs automatically comes out of the bra, looking at her firm young boobs with pink nipples less than 1 minute shoot liao :D
plus moaning sound while licking your nipples

i know ngan..i have on my fb and wechat..she used to work in a bj massage, 200k toip for a bj and great service and i concur, great breats form a small slim girl

[volcano]

went to KTV for friend's birthday celebration...gal quoted 2.5 mills for ST and 5 mills for LT..:eek:....saying that she gets 150-200 Sgd for ST and 300-400 Sgd for LT...:(

tell her that here is VN and not Sinkie...if she want this kind of rate then fly over to Sinkie and spread her leg..

eventually get gals from elsewhere for LT at 2.5 mills.

[Seletar]

went to KTV for friend's birthday celebration...gal quoted 2.5 mills for ST and 5 mills for LT..:eek:....saying that she gets 150-200 Sgd for ST and 300-400 Sgd for LT...:(

tell her that here is VN and not Sinkie...if she want this kind of rate then fly over to Sinkie and spread her leg..

eventually get gals from elsewhere for LT at 2.5 mills.
Singapore people always spoil the market. Got a friend gave the vb 200sgd just accompany him dinner and no bonk, really piss off.