An expensive FL lesson... (Wait for FR b4 trying!)

[goodpartner]

I was in a delima whether to share this since I'm on a rep-point gaining mission where it's safer with +ve postings on FR? Especially since it concerns the "business/livelihood" of the FL-cer & agent/threadstarter/okt.

Let's see if I can be general with my sharing (yet useful for other bros) without any disclosure on sensitive details. In fact, I've exchanged a number of SMSes with the agent (also a samster here) about my intent to write a -ve FR.

Actually my thread title sums up my message, but here are the details.

Back recently from visiting my thai gf in BKK (who has a cute sister), I'm horny for thai tarma (I think it means 2 gals to 1 guy) service. It seems easier to get it arranged via a FL agent (one good reason going for FL) - and so I did.

You can infer the rest of the actions from my lessons learnt below:

1) Try not to pick FL purely from the photos alone. It's obvious that most of the pics are make-over shots. Unlike those "live" in the tanks or on the street, you can't really see the "real thing" first, so you're at risk.

2) Wait for FR from bros who are brave enough to take the first blood (and willing to share honest FR here). I suppose if you're a regular for the agent, you'll usually get good stuff so wait for first-blood FR from these bros. And hopefully it's unbias...

3) I think "tarma service" is something the ladies have to be taught or have experience? The dumb thing I did was simply to pick 2 from the lot and found out the hard way the experience is NOT like those seen in rated movies (haha to myself). The pair I have basically don't know what to do; one rest while the other work! I've to tell them to work together...

4) Supply & Demand - if you sense that you can easily get a slot (and change the timing as pleased) then chances are the demand is not there. With demand it means RTF and queuing. I had to cancel a waiting slot (from a another hot rated FL) just for this which is arranged last-minute and after a few follow-up from the agent.


Some more jokes: I almost puked when one of them kept frenching me with a mouth that smells somewhat. My first impression with these two thai FL is that I could find better looking ones from the tanks (at fraction of what I paid) and feel "cleaner" - the hotel room which apparently is where they also stay is messy with their lauguages, filled with smoke and they are not even dressed up appropriately to welcome me! Also, imagine tarma service on a single-size bed?!

With all these factors in mind, I could NOT cum even when both of them worked on me for close to an hour. Eventually I surrender citing tireness and accepted a HJ more to let them feel they've done their job. With hours ahead, I ended up tcss and watch TV program till time-up.

This is it; my first FL and "tarma" experience; a newbie in engaging FL service via this forum. I would have avoided this $200 damage if only I think more with the big head Hope this will help other newbie too.

Now, before any agent zap me for making their biz tougher, and citing things like field experience WILL be different depending on individuals, chemistry, and how they FLs likes you....blah blah. I must say that some -ve factors above are tangible enough to be improved on; e.g. presentation, skills, cleaniness.

[ChokDeeDee!]

Yah bro, tarma partners need chemistry one, must be on good terms, if cooperated before laggi better. Else you'll really end up in a awkwards dunno what to do situation.

[Cyber@id]

Bro Goodpartner

It is pity to see your first tarma end up being written off. Personally I think that if you are posting the truth, you would not have to worry about it, will up you tomorrow for your effort in putting a honest FR.

Wish you'll have better luck next time.

Regards.

[V3IK]

thk u bro for sharing yr own experiences!
i'm quite new kid on the block in here.
hope to learn all the bros in here too.

v3i

[kuhnbela]

Thanks for youyr report. Personally, I think that you should choose one only and let that girl choose the other. That being said, the best tarma is the amateur spontaneous one. It helps a lot if there is bisexuality involving the girls. If you can steer your way between two who are attracted to each other the result can be very satisfying.

[beauthaiful]

Hi bro

if u are taking from an agent, its' the agent's responsibility & professionalism to inform you and advise if tarma is advisable for the pair that you want. Most agents will only recommend tarma that have chemistry involved. No point having a tarma when both gals duno one another or are shy with one another? It will be a complete waste of ur money, even if its at $200 for tarma. It will be better off, if u spend ur $$ on 2 diff sessions with the 2 diff gals. Therefore, bro, u can choose to ask the agent for advice as well. Cheers~ hope u ll get a good tarma session soon.

[Ah Dac]

Actually tarma session not easy to prepare lor.

Given on the restriction on the BKK agent, the timing of the gals, etc.

Luckily my virgin tarma was actually better than I expected but till now yet to try another tarma so can't really do a comparison.

Just my views!!

[duke]

Bro for great Tarma experience I would direct you to the "FIRSTBLOOD KING" Bro Hthderrick !!!!!!

I remember reading one of his FR on his Tarma session, which I must say was so good that I almost have to PCC.....

[aces68]

Bro good partner,

sorry to hear about your bad experience. I agree with bro bart and bro beauthaiful's comment that tarma babes should be recommended by OKT. Of course, in my case, my first tarma was completely spontaneous and luckily, it turned out quite well.

Since then, I have relied on OKT's description and FRs to decide whether to take up the tarma offer or not.

I wish you the best of luck for your next tarma encounter. Don't give up, tarma is the best experience (at least for me ), I am sure you will get a good pair the next time.

[goodpartner]

Bros, thanks all who up my points and more importantly shared their thoughts & tips about getting better tarma lessons. (Wow, I'm suddenly power 5 now!)

I got a number of private msgs and most from concerned newbies about to engage FL services, asking if I can reveal the agent/gal names so they can avoid. So far my response has been something like: "Sorry No, but if you've decided on the gals just check with me and I'll tell you if it matches mine".

Even so, I'm not sure if it's the best response (Sorry bros). That's what make forums interesting; a mixture of views and perspectives from people with difference life experiences - hard to strike a balance.

Most will agree that we should be an advocate for fellow bros here rather than to be a shield for the middlemen - but seriously it just dawn on me that FL service (via agents) has this BIG caveat where some FRs could be fabricated to help the gal's/agent's business (for return favours from agents?) - Guess what? I just read an FR on one of the tarma gal I have had... and it looks fabricated. Well, such will be less happening in non FL market - something newbie like me will keep in mind now.

So to bro Bart's comment:

Originally Posted by bart

Many warning signas and lessons for newbie here, but I cannot agree with your :"Wait for FR from bros who are brave enough to take the first blood"

... perhaps you'll be more agreeable if you quote my whole original sentence to include "And hopefully it's unbias...". I did also highlight "share honest FR"

Eventually, the market will correct itself; hopefully agents will learn that the value of "long term customers" does not come with short-cuts. Unfortunately, what's missing now is a "fair" way to give honest FR (with specifics) without hurting the gal's/agent's business. Any thoughts around this from experienced FL cheongsters?

[youngeric]

Originally Posted by goodpartner

Unfortunately, what's missing now is a "fair" way to give honest FR (with specifics) without hurting the gal's/agent's business. Any thoughts around this from experienced FL cheongsters?

Hi goodpartner!

Sorry you had such a bad experience.

I try to post honest (at least to me) FR.

Most OKT who read my negative FRs are not upset or criticise me for doing so. Well, at least they never tell me to my face they are upset.

Of course, I try to be fair to the FL.
My bad experience could be because we got have no chemistry etc but that does not mean others would also have similar bad experiences.

So I think if you put a truthful & fair & honest FR, that is good enough.

As for your case, if the FL is not even borderline acceptable, you should just reject her. If not, not only is it a waste of your money & both your time, it would be a torture for the FL to try to make you cum.

YE

[goodpartner]

Bro, your points on rejecting the gals are well taken - will try to say NO and stand-up for my little brother if I feel really cheated in future.

Just wondering if most bros are like me; accept whatever and be nice? For e.g. I've read so many cat40 FRs with the scenarios like "gal smiled at them in tank, but in the room turned long face..." - most bros seems to just carry on the FJ (like me) and I've not read any saying NO to okt and reject on the spot.

Also, on your other points about contributing -ve FRs where OKTs don't get upset - Bravo!

Guess what? I just got this private msg from the agent of my tarma experience: (Some details and words are rephrased to hide identity; I'm sure he won't mind me pasting it here as this will bring back confidence for bros to engage them/FL)

Dear bro,

I empathize with your bad experience as I always try to excel on my services to bros of SBF.

I'm partly at fault for trusting them to do a good job when they told me that they can form a good tarma pair. You tried them on ...., perhaps I should have gotten to know their personalities better before trusting them to do a good job.

Nevertheless I apologize to you for wasting your $ and getting such a bad experience on your first visit to my gals. I'm not someone who just hit and run, I want to mantain a long-term relationship with my customers.

Hope that you would still give me a chance to redeem myself. Next time I would recomend you a good gal at a good price and I hope you would patronise me once again.

Thanks for your time.

Yours sincerely,
XXXXXXXXXXXXX

So nice and sincere huh? That's the way to go man!

All FL agents/OKTs should read this thread and model after this gentleman's attitude in business!

Afterall, I guess it's OK to post honest FRs in the FL section like we commonly see in the other categories! Not just the good ones please!

[nitetcrawler]

Thanks for the advice given. I have to agree with most of the things you said. I have not been able to go for first blood as my work schedule does not permit me to do so. As such I have to depend on other brothers' FRs. Single session or tarma, most important is chemistry. If there is chemistry, it will be an enjoyable session. Happy bonking to all.

[alien69]

bros,


Thai girls are quite shy when come to sandwich or we call it "tarma" here.
Whether in Singapore or in BKK, thai girls prefer to serve "Single". This especially true for young girls.

However, if you know the language of LOS, and can KC with 2 girls at the same time...things will be much enjoyable....

And I agreed ,leave the pairing to the OKT. They know their girls best.

Anyway, Tarma need STAMINA ...which I dont have...hence Single is the best .... especially now got so many girls to choose....haha

[Acidburnt]

Originally Posted by goodpartner

All FL agents/OKTs should read this thread and model after this gentleman's attitude in business!

Bro goodpartner, I think you are wrong not to expose the OKT. Look at Bro Max Priest for example in this thread. http://forum.sammyboy.com/showthread.php?t=59979&page=3

He was not happy with the OKT and goes all out to expose him and criticsed him. In the end, he got a full refund !

You should ask for a full refund too. Instead of just accepting a "sorry" from the OKT. The "sorry" may never ends. So there is no use trying to defend that OKT. Come on, who is he so that we can blacklist him just like Bro Max Priest did.