Navy chief confirms gunboat missing on Sabah waters

Sammyboy RSS Feed · #1 06-10-2014, 02:10 AM

An honorable member of the Coffee Shop Has Just Posted the Following:

Navy chief confirms gunboat missing on Sabah waters

Astro Awani | Updated: October 06, 2014
(First published on: October 06, 2014 00:02 MYT)

Filepic of the CB 204 gunboat of the Malaysian navy. The gunboat is reportedly missing after it lost contact with navy ship KD Paus, which was escorting it to base on Sunday.

The content may have been removed, or is temporarily unavailable.
We apologize for the inconvenience. Please try again later.

KUALA LUMPUR: Royal Malaysian Navy (RMN) chief Admiral Tan Sri Abdul Aziz Jaafar has confirmed that authorities have reportedly lost all communication with the RMN gunboat CB 204 while en route to Gugusan Semarang Peninjau on Sabah waters.

There are seven officers on the gunboat, he said in his Twitter.

The gunboat’s last known position was 20 nautical miles northeast Pulau Mengalum around 1.05pm Sunday.
RMN ship KD Paus was instructed to escort CB 204 and had departed from the Kota Kinabalu navy base (PTKK) at 5am.

At 10.30am, the operating room of the Wilayah Laut II headquarters (MWL 2) had received a call from KD Paus informing the ship and gunboat would be turning back to the PTKK due to bad weather.

However, at 1.05pm, KD Paus failed to establish communication with the gunboat. The ship then launched a search between Pulau Mengalum and Pulau Gaya but was unsuccessful.

Ships from the Malaysian Maritime Enforcement Agency (MMEA) have been instructed to join the search and rescue (SAR) mission.

KD Lekiu and KD Serang departed PTKK to Pulau Mengalum at 5.30pm to join the SAR mission.

.voterDiv .ob_bctrl{display:none;}.ob_pdesc IMG{border:none;}.AR_3 .ob_what{direction:ltr;text-align:right;clear:both;padding:5px 10px 0px;}.AR_3 .ob_what a{color:#999;font-size:10px;font-family:arial;text-decoration: none;}.AR_3 .ob_what.ob-hover:hover a{text-decoration: underline;}.AR_3 .ob_clear{clear:both;}.AR_3 .ob_amelia,.AR_3 .ob_logo,.AR_3 .ob_text_logo{display:inline-block;vertical-align:text-bottom;padding:0px 5px;box-sizing:content-box;-moz-box-sizing:content-box;-webkit-box-sizing:content-box;}.AR_3 .ob_amelia{background:url('http://widgets.outbrain.com/images/widgetIcons/ob_logo_16x16.png') no-repeat center top;width:16px;height:16px;margin-bottom:-2px;}.AR_3 .ob_logo{background:url('http://widgets.outbrain.com/images/widgetIcons/ob_logo_67x12.png') no-repeat center top;width:67px;height:12px;}.AR_3 .ob_text_logo{background:url('http://widgets.outbrain.com/images/widgetIcons/ob_text_logo_66x23.png') no-repeat center top;width:66px;height:23px;}.AR_3:hover .ob_amelia,.AR_3:hover .ob_logo,.AR_3:hover .ob_text_logo{background-position:center bottom;} .AR_3 .ob_container{width:100%;position:relative;overflo w:hidden;}.AR_3 .strip-img{width:145px;height:108px;border:none !important;margin:0px !important;display:block;padding:0px !important;}.AR_3 .item-link-container{text-decoration:none;}.AR_3 .strip-rec-link-title{font-size:13px;font-weight:normal;line-height:16px;}.AR_3 .strip-rec-link-source{font-size:12px;line-height:16px}.AR_3 .strip-like{padding-bottom:4px;font-size:14px;line-height:16px;height:20px;font-weight:bold;}.AR_3 .item-container a,.AR_3 .item-container a:hover,.AR_3 .item-container a:visited{border:medium none;text-decoration:none;}.AR_3 .ob_video{border:medium none;position:absolute;top:5px;left:5px}.AR_3 .ob-rec-link-img{position:relative;}.AR_3 .wbr:before {content: \"\200B\"}.AR_3 .ob_container_recs{width:100%;position:absolute;}. AR_3 .ob_container_recs A{display:inline;direction:ltr;text-align:left;}.AR_3 .ob-text-content A{width:100%;padding:0px 0px;}.AR_3 .ob-text-content{padding-top:6px;}.AR_3 .item-container A.ob-text-content{display:block;}.AR_3 .ob_container_recs .item-container{float:left;direction:ltr;width:147px;mar gin-bottom:300px;padding-right:10px;}.AR_3 .ob_container_recs .ob-last{padding-right:0px;}.AR_3 .ob_container_shadow_outer{position:static;width:1 00%;}.AR_3 .ob_container_shadow .item-container-shadow{position:static;overflow-x:hidden;width:0px;float:left;direction:ltr;}.AR_3 .ob_container_shadow .item-container{width:147px;visibility:hidden;float:left } .AR_3{width:145px;border-top: 5px solid #ff6c00;font-family: Open Sans, sans-serif;margin: 10px 20px 10px 0px;padding: 0px 20px;background:#fefefe;background: #eee;border-bottom: 1px solid #ccc;}.AR_3 .ob_empty{display:none;}.AR_3 .ob_org_header{font-size: 14px;font-weight: bold;color: #000000;display:block;text-transform:uppercase;margin:10px 0px;}.AR_3 .ob_container .ob_container_shadow_outer{display:none;}.AR_3 .ob_container .ob_container_recs{width:auto;position: static;}.AR_3 .ob_container .ob_container_recs .item-container{width:145px; height: 168px;position:relative;overflow:hidden; margin-bottom:4px !important;padding:0px;}.AR_3 .strip-rec-link-title{font-weight: 600;color: #006699;text-decoration: none;font-size:11px;line-height:18px;max-height:36px;overflow:hidden;}.AR_3 .ob_source{color:#999;font-size:11px;line-height:18px;max-height:18px;overflow:hidden;display:block;}.AR_3 .ob_what{padding:0px 0px 10px;} Around the Web

Skymark, Airbus break standoff in push to end plane row
Nikkei Asian Review

Biblical Polygamy Does Not Turn Out Well
Learnist

Skymark, Airbus break standoff in push to end plane row
Nikkei Asian Review

Biblical Polygamy Does Not Turn Out Well
Learnist

Recommended by

To watch more of Astro's popular programmes and infotainment, use Astro on the Go http://onthego.astro.com.my
Tags: Abdul Aziz Jaafar, Royal Malaysian Navy, KD Paus, gunboat, CB 204, Gugusan Semarang Peninjau

Related Stories

RMN confirms arrest of a navy personnel for probe into militant case

/* dynamic basic css */.AR_1.ob-widget .ob-widget-items-container {margin:0;padding:0;}.AR_1.ob-widget .ob-widget-items-container .ob-clearfix {display:block;width:100%;float:none;clear:both;he ight:0px;line-height:0px;font-size:0px;}.AR_1.ob-widget .ob-widget-items-container.ob-multi-row {padding-top: 2%;}.AR_1.ob-widget .ob-dynamic-rec-container {position:relative;margin:0;padding;0;}.AR_1.ob-widget .ob-dynamic-rec-link,.AR_1.ob-widget .ob-dynamic-rec-link:hover {text-decoration:none;}.AR_1.ob-widget .ob-rec-image-container .ob-video-icon-container {position:absolute;height:50%;width:100%;text-align:center;top:25%;}[data-browser=safari] .AR_1.ob-widget .ob-rec-image-container .ob-video-icon-container {display:none;}/*hide video icon on safari. bug in safari. Ronen.*/.AR_1.ob-widget .ob-rec-image-container .ob-video-icon {display:inline-block;height:100%;opacity:0.7;transition: opacity 500ms;}.AR_1.ob-widget .ob-rec-image-container .ob-video-icon:hover {opacity:1;}.AR_1.ob-widget .ob_what{direction:ltr;clear:both;padding:5px 10px 0px;}.AR_1.ob-widget .ob_what a{color:#999;font-size:11px;font-family:arial;text-decoration: none;}.AR_1.ob-widget .ob_what.ob-hover:hover a{text-decoration: underline;}.AR_1.ob-widget .ob_amelia,.AR_1.ob-widget .ob_logo,.AR_1.ob-widget .ob_text_logo{vertical-align:baseline !important;display:inline-block;vertical-align:text-bottom;padding:0px 5px;box-sizing:content-box;-moz-box-sizing:content-box;-webkit-box-sizing:content-box;}.AR_1.ob-widget .ob_amelia{background:url('http://widgets.outbrain.com/images/widgetIcons/ob_logo_16x16.png') no-repeat center top;width:16px;height:16px;margin-bottom:-2px;}.AR_1.ob-widget .ob_logo{background:url('http://widgets.outbrain.com/images/widgetIcons/ob_logo_67x12.png') no-repeat center top;width:67px;height:12px;}.AR_1.ob-widget .ob_text_logo{background:url('http://widgets.outbrain.com/images/widgetIcons/ob_text_logo_66x23.png') no-repeat center top;width:66px;height:23px;}.AR_1.ob-widget:hover .ob_amelia,.AR_1.ob-widget:hover .ob_logo,.AR_1.ob-widget:hover .ob_text_logo{background-position:center bottom;} .AR_1.ob-widget .ob_what{text-align:right;}.AR_1.ob-widget .ob-rec-image-container .ob-rec-image {display:block;} /* dynamic two-rows-strip css */.AR_1.ob-widget .ob-rec-image-container {position:relative;}.AR_1.ob-widget .ob-rec-image-container .ob-image-ratio {height:0px;line-height:0px;padding-top:74.48275862068967%;}.AR_1.ob-widget .ob-rec-image-container img.ob-rec-image {width:100%;position:absolute;top:0;bottom:0;left: 0;right:0;opacity:0;transition:all 750ms;}.AR_1.ob-widget .ob-rec-image-container img.ob-show {opacity:1;}.AR_1.ob-widget .ob-rec-image-container .ob-rec-label {position:absolute;bottom:0px;left:0px;padding:0px 3px;background-color:#666;color:white;font-size:10px;line-height:15px;}.AR_1.ob-widget {width:auto;min-width:300px;}.AR_1.ob-widget .ob-dynamic-rec-container {display:inline-block;vertical-align:top;min-width:50px;width:18.16%;box-sizing:border-box;-moz-box-sizing:border-box;} .AR_1.ob-widget .ob-widget-items-container {direction: ltr;} .AR_1.ob-widget .ob-dynamic-rec-container {margin-left:0;} .AR_1.ob-widget .ob-dynamic-rec-container ~ .ob-dynamic-rec-container {margin:0 0 0 2.3%; }.AR_1.ob-widget .ob-widget-header {direction:ltr; }.AR_1.ob-widget .ob-unit {display:block;}.AR_1.ob-widget .ob-rec-text {max-height:49.5px;overflow:hidden;}.AR_1.ob-widget .ob-rec-source {}.AR_1.ob-widget .ob-rec-date {font-weight:bold;}.AR_1.ob-two-rows-strip-layout .ob-widget-section.ob-first {margin-bottom:20px;} /* dynamic customized css */ .AR_1.ob-two-rows-strip-layout .ob-widget-header {font-family:inherit;font-size:18px;color:black;padding-bottom:0px;padding-top:0px;}.AR_1.ob-two-rows-strip-layout .ob-dynamic-rec-container {max-width:145px;}.AR_1.ob-two-rows-strip-layout .ob-rec-text {font-family:inherit;color:#069;padding:6px 0 0px;text-align:left;line-height:1.5;font-size:11px;}.AR_1.ob-two-rows-strip-layout .ob-rec-text:hover {color:#069;}.AR_1.ob-two-rows-strip-layout .ob-rec-source {font-family:inherit;color:#999;padding:0px 0 0px;text-align:left;font-size:11px;}.AR_1.ob-two-rows-strip-layout .ob-rec-date {font-family:inherit;color:black;padding:0px 0 0px;text-align:left;font-size:12px;} .AR_1{border-top: 5px solid #ff6c00;font-family: Open Sans, sans-serif;clear:both;}.AR_1.ob-two-rows-strip-layout .ob-widget-header{font-size: 14px;font-weight: bold;color: #000000;display:block;text-transform:uppercase;margin:10px 0px;}.AR_1.ob-two-rows-strip-layout .ob-widget-section.ob-first{margin-bottom:0px;}.AR_1.ob-two-rows-strip-layout .ob-rec-text {font-weight: 600;line-height:18px;max-height:54px;}.AR_1.ob-two-rows-strip-layout .ob-rec-source{line-height:18px;}.AR_1.ob-widget .ob_what{padding:5px 0px 10px;}.AR_1.ob-widget .ob_what a{font-size:10px;} We Recommend

From Around The Web

Recommended by

Close Forgot password?

Please put in your email: Send me my password! Close message

Login

Subscribe to this blog post's comments through...

<img id="IDCommentsShowRss" alt="RSS Icon"> RSS Feed
Subscribe via email
Subscribe

Subscribe to this blog's comments through...

<img id="IDCommentsShowRss2" alt="RSS Icon"> RSS Feed
Subscribe via email
Subscribe

Follow the discussion

Comments

Logging you in...
Close Login to IntenseDebate
Or create an account
Username or Email:
Password:

Forgot login?

Cancel Login

Close

WordPress.com Username or Email:
Password:

Lost your password?

Cancel Login

Dashboard | Edit profile | Logout

Logged in as

Admin Options

Disable comments for this page Save Settings

There are no comments posted yet. Be the first one!

Post a new comment

Enter text right here!

Comment as a Guest, or login:

Go back
Go back

Share on Facebook

Connected as (Logout)

Email (optional)Not displayed publicly.

Tweet this comment

Connected as (Logout)

Email (optional)Not displayed publicly.

Name
Email
Website (optional)

Displayed next to your comments.

Not displayed publicly.

If you have a website, link to it here.

Posting anonymously.
Tweet this comment
Submit Comment
Subscribe to None Replies All new comments

Comments by IntenseDebate

Enter text right here!

Reply as a Guest, or login:

Go back
Go back

Share on Facebook

Connected as (Logout)

Email (optional)Not displayed publicly.

Tweet this comment

Connected as (Logout)

Email (optional)Not displayed publicly.

Name
Email
Website (optional)

Displayed next to your comments.

Not displayed publicly.

If you have a website, link to it here.

Posting anonymously.
Tweet this comment
Cancel Submit Comment
Subscribe to None Replies All new comments

National »
RMN confirms arrest of a navy personnel for probe into militant case

.voterDiv .ob_bctrl{display:none;}.ob_pdesc IMG{border:none;}.SB_2 .ob_what{direction:ltr;text-align:right;clear:both;padding:5px 10px 0px;}.SB_2 .ob_what a{color:#999;font-size:10px;font-family:arial;text-decoration: none;}.SB_2 .ob_what.ob-hover:hover a{text-decoration: underline;}.SB_2 .ob_clear{clear:both;}.SB_2 .ob_amelia,.SB_2 .ob_logo,.SB_2 .ob_text_logo{display:inline-block;vertical-align:text-bottom;padding:0px 5px;box-sizing:content-box;-moz-box-sizing:content-box;-webkit-box-sizing:content-box;}.SB_2 .ob_amelia{background:url('http://widgets.outbrain.com/images/widgetIcons/ob_logo_16x16.png') no-repeat center top;width:16px;height:16px;margin-bottom:-2px;}.SB_2 .ob_logo{background:url('http://widgets.outbrain.com/images/widgetIcons/ob_logo_67x12.png') no-repeat center top;width:67px;height:12px;}.SB_2 .ob_text_logo{background:url('http://widgets.outbrain.com/images/widgetIcons/ob_text_logo_66x23.png') no-repeat center top;width:66px;height:23px;}.SB_2:hover .ob_amelia,.SB_2:hover .ob_logo,.SB_2:hover .ob_text_logo{background-position:center bottom;} .SB_2 .ob_container{width:100%;position:relative;overflo w:hidden;}.SB_2 .strip-img{width:145px;height:108px;border:none !important;margin:0px !important;display:block;padding:0px !important;}.SB_2 .item-link-container{text-decoration:none;}.SB_2 .strip-rec-link-title{font-size:13px;font-weight:normal;line-height:16px;}.SB_2 .strip-rec-link-source{font-size:12px;line-height:16px}.SB_2 .strip-like{padding-bottom:4px;font-size:14px;line-height:16px;height:20px;font-weight:bold;}.SB_2 .item-container a,.SB_2 .item-container a:hover,.SB_2 .item-container a:visited{border:medium none;text-decoration:none;}.SB_2 .ob_video{border:medium none;position:absolute;top:5px;left:5px}.SB_2 .ob-rec-link-img{position:relative;}.SB_2 .wbr:before {content: \"\200B\"}.SB_2 .ob_container_recs{width:100%;position:absolute;}. SB_2 .ob_container_recs A{display:inline;direction:ltr;text-align:left;}.SB_2 .ob-text-content A{width:100%;padding:0px 0px;}.SB_2 .ob-text-content{padding-top:6px;}.SB_2 .item-container A.ob-text-content{display:block;}.SB_2 .ob_container_recs .item-container{float:left;direction:ltr;width:147px;mar gin-bottom:300px;padding-right:10px;}.SB_2 .ob_container_recs .ob-last{padding-right:0px;}.SB_2 .ob_container_shadow_outer{position:static;width:1 00%;}.SB_2 .ob_container_shadow .item-container-shadow{position:static;overflow-x:hidden;width:0px;float:left;direction:ltr;}.SB_2 .ob_container_shadow .item-container{width:147px;visibility:hidden;float:left } .SB_2{width:300px;font-family: Open Sans, sans-serif;}.SB_2 .ob_empty{display:none;}.SB_2 .ob_org_header{display:block;background-image: url(http://static.astroawani.com/images/...ground-repeat: no-repeat;color: #fff;font-size: 14px;font-weight: bold;text-transform: uppercase;padding: 7px 0 7px 10px;margin:0 0 7px;}.SB_2 .ob_container .ob_container_shadow_outer{display:none;}.SB_2 .ob_container .ob_container_recs{width:auto;position: static;}.SB_2 .ob_container .ob_container_recs .item-container{width:145px; height: 186px;position:relative;overflow:hidden; margin-bottom:4px !important;}.SB_2 .ob-recIdx-1,.SB_2 .ob-recIdx-3,.SB_2 .ob-recIdx-5{padding-right:0px !important;} .SB_2 .strip-rec-link-title{font-weight: 600;color: #006699;text-decoration: none;font-size:11px;line-height:18px;max-height:54px;overflow:hidden;}.SB_2 .ob_source{color:#999;font-size:11px;line-height:18px;max-height:18px;overflow:hidden;display:block;}.SB_2 .ob_what{padding:0px 0px 10px;} We Recommend

10 of 16 Malaysian victims identified are non-Muslims
National

MH370: Dr Mahathir puzzled advanced technology unable to track missing aircraft
National

Australian woman in alleged MAS sexual assault goes on tell-all interview
World

"Yes, I'm a lesbian" - Charice
Entertainment

Wife of former PM Tun Hussein Onn, Tun Suhailah, passes away
National

Gang raped Malaysian student to return home from Indonesia
World

10 of 16 Malaysian victims identified are non-Muslims
National

MH370: Dr Mahathir puzzled advanced technology unable to track missing aircraft
National

Australian woman in alleged MAS sexual assault goes on tell-all interview
World

"Yes, I'm a lesbian" - Charice
Entertainment

Wife of former PM Tun Hussein Onn, Tun Suhailah, passes away
National

Gang raped Malaysian student to return home from Indonesia
World

Recommended by

Picture Stories

AidilAdha around the globe

(23 photos)

.voterDiv .ob_bctrl{display:none;}.ob_pdesc IMG{border:none;}.SB_4 .ob_what{direction:ltr;text-align:right;clear:both;padding:5px 10px 0px;}.SB_4 .ob_what a{color:#999;font-size:10px;font-family:arial;text-decoration: none;}.SB_4 .ob_what.ob-hover:hover a{text-decoration: underline;}.SB_4 .ob_clear{clear:both;}.SB_4 .ob_amelia,.SB_4 .ob_logo,.SB_4 .ob_text_logo{display:inline-block;vertical-align:text-bottom;padding:0px 5px;box-sizing:content-box;-moz-box-sizing:content-box;-webkit-box-sizing:content-box;}.SB_4 .ob_amelia{background:url('http://widgets.outbrain.com/images/widgetIcons/ob_logo_16x16.png') no-repeat center top;width:16px;height:16px;margin-bottom:-2px;}.SB_4 .ob_logo{background:url('http://widgets.outbrain.com/images/widgetIcons/ob_logo_67x12.png') no-repeat center top;width:67px;height:12px;}.SB_4 .ob_text_logo{background:url('http://widgets.outbrain.com/images/widgetIcons/ob_text_logo_66x23.png') no-repeat center top;width:66px;height:23px;}.SB_4:hover .ob_amelia,.SB_4:hover .ob_logo,.SB_4:hover .ob_text_logo{background-position:center bottom;} .SB_4 .ob_container{width:100%;position:relative;overflo w:hidden;}.SB_4 .strip-img{width:145px;height:108px;border:none !important;margin:0px !important;display:block;padding:0px !important;}.SB_4 .item-link-container{text-decoration:none;}.SB_4 .strip-rec-link-title{font-size:13px;font-weight:normal;line-height:16px;}.SB_4 .strip-rec-link-source{font-size:12px;line-height:16px}.SB_4 .strip-like{padding-bottom:4px;font-size:14px;line-height:16px;height:20px;font-weight:bold;}.SB_4 .item-container a,.SB_4 .item-container a:hover,.SB_4 .item-container a:visited{border:medium none;text-decoration:none;}.SB_4 .ob_video{border:medium none;position:absolute;top:5px;left:5px}.SB_4 .ob-rec-link-img{position:relative;}.SB_4 .wbr:before {content: \"\200B\"}.SB_4 .ob_container_recs{width:100%;position:absolute;}. SB_4 .ob_container_recs A{display:inline;direction:ltr;text-align:left;}.SB_4 .ob-text-content A{width:100%;padding:0px 0px;}.SB_4 .ob-text-content{padding-top:6px;}.SB_4 .item-container A.ob-text-content{display:block;}.SB_4 .ob_container_recs .item-container{float:left;direction:ltr;width:147px;mar gin-bottom:300px;padding-right:10px;}.SB_4 .ob_container_recs .ob-last{padding-right:0px;}.SB_4 .ob_container_shadow_outer{position:static;width:1 00%;}.SB_4 .ob_container_shadow .item-container-shadow{position:static;overflow-x:hidden;width:0px;float:left;direction:ltr;}.SB_4 .ob_container_shadow .item-container{width:147px;visibility:hidden;float:left } .SB_4{width:300px;font-family: Open Sans, sans-serif;}.SB_4 .ob_empty{display:none;}.SB_4 .ob_org_header{display:block;background-image: url(http://static.astroawani.com/images/...ground-repeat: no-repeat;color: #fff;font-size: 14px;font-weight: bold;text-transform: uppercase;padding: 7px 0 7px 10px;margin:0 0 7px;}.SB_4 .ob_container .ob_container_shadow_outer{display:none;}.SB_4 .ob_container .ob_container_recs{width:auto;position: static;}.SB_4 .ob_container .ob_container_recs .item-container{width:145px; height: 186px;position:relative;overflow:hidden; margin-bottom:4px !important;}.SB_4 .ob-recIdx-1,.SB_4 .ob-recIdx-3,.SB_4 .ob-recIdx-5{padding-right:0px !important;} .SB_4 .strip-rec-link-title{font-weight: 600;color: #006699;text-decoration: none;font-size:11px;line-height:18px;max-height:54px;overflow:hidden;}.SB_4 .ob_source{color:#999;font-size:11px;line-height:18px;max-height:18px;overflow:hidden;display:block;}.SB_4 .ob_what{padding:0px 0px 10px;} From Around The Web

Raking in millions: The world’s 10 highest earning models for 2014 revealed
Marie France Asia

6 Strange (but True) Weight Loss Tips
Learnist

The Unsolved Mystery of the Mary Celeste
Learnist

Microsoft Social Listening tool tracks F1 buzz on social media
Microsoft Corporation

41 Photos from the Mekong Markets at Dawn
Legal Nomads

Belfast hospital found to be negligent in death of new mom
IrishCentral

Raking in millions: The world’s 10 highest earning models for 2014 revealed
Marie France Asia

6 Strange (but True) Weight Loss Tips
Learnist

The Unsolved Mystery of the Mary Celeste
Learnist

Microsoft Social Listening tool tracks F1 buzz on social media
Microsoft Corporation

41 Photos from the Mekong Markets at Dawn
Legal Nomads

Belfast hospital found to be negligent in death of new mom
IrishCentral

Recommended by

Polls - Budget 2015
In the upcoming tabling of Budget 2015, what is the topic that you want to know about the most?

Affordable housing
BR1M handouts/Welfare
Cost of living

VoteView Results

Opinion

Dispensing separation: Yay or nay?

Mark Cheong
Mark Cheong was formerly a clinical pharmacist for the medical department for various public hospitals.

tweet of the day

@namespace fb "http://www.facebook.com/2008/fbml";#idc-container{margin:1.5em 0;max-width:800px;min-width:180px;float:none;letter-spacing:normal!important;text-align:left;width:auto}#idc-container.idc-inline{clear:both;height:400px;margin:1.2em 0;overflow:auto;overflow-x:hidden;overflow-y:auto;padding:0 8px 0 0}#idc-container .idc-trackbacks,#idc-container .idc-comments,#idc-container .idc-new{margin:0 0 1.5em}#idc-container div *{font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:0!important;margin:0;padding:0;text-indent:0}#idc-container fb\:login-button,#idc-container fb|login-button{color:white;background:#5f78ab url(http://static.ak.fbcdn.net/rsrc.php/...GFbc80dUKj.png) no-repeat left -211px;display:block;height:21px}#idc-container fb\:login-button span,#idc-container fb|login-button span{font-weight:bold;font-family:"lucida grande",tahoma,verdana,arial,sans-serif;font-size:11px}#idc-container div span.fb_button_text{font-weight:bold;margin:1px 1px 0 21px;padding:2px 6px 2px 6px}#idc-container div span.fb_button_text span{padding:0}#idc-container div div div{text-transform:none}#idc-container img{border:0;background:0;padding:0}#idc-container span{display:inline}#idc-container span.fb_button_text{display:block}#idc-container strong,#idc-container .idc-c-t b{font-weight:bold!important}#idc-container .idc-c-t ol,#idc-container .idc-c-t ul{padding:0 0 0 20px}#idc-container .idc-c-t li{display:list-item;list-style:disc}#idc-container .idc-c-t ol li{list-style:decimal}#idc-container a{background-image:none;clear:none!important;float:none;font-weight:normal;display:inline;border:none!important ;padding:0!important}#idc-container a.fb_button{background:#29447e url(http://static.ak.fbcdn.net/rsrc.php/...GFbc80dUKj.png) no-repeat left -211px;display:inline-block;padding:0 0 0 1px!important}#idc-container blockquote{padding:0 0 0 10px!important}#idc-container div{background:0;clear:left;display:block;float:no ne;margin:0;width:auto;font-size:13px;line-height:1.3em;overflow:visible;position:static}#idc-container h3,#idc-container h4,#idc-container h6{background:0;border:0;letter-spacing:0;padding:0;margin:0;clear:none;position:s tatic;text-align:left;font-weight:normal}#idc-container h3{font-size:22px;line-height:1.3em;margin:0 0 8px}#idc-container .idc-text{background:#fff url(http://s.intensedebate.com/themes/un...-grey-0926.png) no-repeat -713px -121px;border:1px solid #ccc;border-top:1px solid #b0b0b0;color:#333;cursor:text;float:left;padding: 3px;margin:0 4px 4px 0;font-size:12px;line-height:1.3em;font:normal 12px/1.3em Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;-moz-border-radius:4px;-khtml-border-radius:4px;-webkit-border-radius:4px;border-radius:4px;-moz-border-radius-bottomleft:}#idc-container div.idc-text,#idc-container textarea.idc-text{height:50px;margin:0 0 4px;min-height:50px;overflow:hidden;width:97.8%}#idc-container div.idc-text_noresize,#idc-container textarea.idc-text_noresize{background:#fff url(http://s.intensedebate.com/themes/un...-grey-0926.png) no-repeat -713px -121px;border:1px solid #ccc;border-top:1px solid #b0b0b0;color:#333;float:left;height:100px!importa nt;padding:3px;margin:0 0 4px;font-size:12px;line-height:1.3em;font:normal 12px/1.3em Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;width:97.8%;-moz-border-radius:4px;-khtml-border-radius:4px;-webkit-border-radius:4px;border-radius:4px}#idc-container textarea.idc-text:hover,#idc-container textarea.idc-text_noresize:hover,#idc-container .idc-text:hover{border:1px solid #aaa;border-top:1px solid #909090}#idc-container.idc .idc-focus{border:1px solid #c9e31a!important;border-top:1px solid #a0b513!important}#idc-container .idc-radio,#idc-container .idc-chk{border:0;margin:2px 2px 0 0;padding:0}#idc-container .idc-radio{float:left}#idc-container .idc-btn_input{background:#f2f2f2;border:1px solid #bbb;cursor:pointer;font-size:11px!important;line-height:16px!important;padding:2px 8px;text-decoration:none;-moz-border-radius:11px;-khtml-border-radius:11px;-webkit-border-radius:11px;border-radius:1}#idc-container .idc-btn_input:hover{border-color:#909090}#idc-container select{margin:0 4px 4px 0;float:none;width:auto}#idc-container label{clear:none;display:inline;float:left;line-height:1.3em;width:auto}#idc-container p{clear:left;margin:0 0 8px}#idc-container ul,#idc-container li{background:0;display:block;float:none;border:0; margin:0;padding:0}#idc-container li{list-style-type:none;display:list-item}#idc-container .idc-nomargin{margin:0}#idc-container .idc-moremargin{margin:0 0 .8em}#idc-container .idc-nofloat{float:none}#idc-container .idc-right{float:right!important}#idc-container .idc-divide{float:left;width:50%}#idc-container .idc-secondary{font-size:11px}.idc-measure{border:1px solid #fff!important;float:none!important;font:normal 12px/1.3em Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif!important;left:0!important;padding:3px!impor tant;position:absolute!important;text-align:left!important;top:0!important;visibility:hi dden!important;width:auto!important;z-index:-1!important}#idc-container .idc-loading{clear:both;display:block;float:none;margin :1em 0;text-align:center;width:auto}#idc-container .idc-loading p{line-height:16px!important}#idc-container .idc-loading img{margin:0 0 -3px}#idc-container .idc-close{width:15px;height:15px;background:url(http://s.intensedebate.com/themes/un...iversal.png?=4) no-repeat 0 -56px;float:right}#idc-container .idc-close span{display:none}#idc-container .idc-close:hover{background-position:0 -71px}#idc-container .idc-sourceimg{float:left;margin:0 4px 2px 0}#idc-container .idc-collapselink_closed,#idc-container .idc-collapselink{background:url(http://s.intensedebate.com/themes/un...color-1223.png) no-repeat -538px -46px;font-weight:bold;line-height:16px!important;margin:0 0 0 4px;overflow:hidden;padding:0 0 0 12px!important}#idc-container .idc-collapselink_closed,#idc-container .idc-collapse .idc-collapselink{background-position:-538px -8px}#idc-container .idc-thread_active{color:#666;font-size:11px}#idc-container .idc-customtext{margin:8px 0 0}#idc-container .idc-customtext strong,#idc-container .idc-customtext b{font-weight:bold}#idc-container .idc-customtext em,#idc-container .idc-customtext i{font-style:italic}#idc-container .idc-customtext ul,#idc-container .idc-customtext ol,#idc-container .idc-customtext dl{padding:0 0 0 20px}#idc-container .idc-customtext ul li{list-style:disc}#idc-container .idc-customtext ol li{list-style:decimal}#idc-container .idc-message{background:url(http://s.intensedebate.com/themes/un...dc-bg-1223.png) repeat-x 0 -700px;clear:both;float:left;margin:.5em 0;padding:1% 1.5%;width:97%;-moz-border-radius:4px;-khtml-border-radius:4px;-webkit-border-radius:4px;border-radius:4px}#idc-container .idc-trackbacks-more a{background:url(http://s.intensedebate.com/themes/un...dc-bg-1223.png) repeat-x 0 -700px;display:block;padding:8px 0!important;text-align:center;-moz-border-radius:4px;-o-border-radius:4px;-webkit-border-radius:4px;-khtml-border-radius:4px;border-radius:4px}#idc-container .idc-thread_cover{background:url(http://s.intensedebate.com/themes/ch.../idc-arrow.png) no-repeat 0 6px;padding:0 0 12px 18px}#idc-container .idc-thread_cover .idc-thread{border:1px solid #eaeaea;padding:4px}#idc-container .idc-thread_cover .idc-thread .idc-thread{border:0;padding:0}#idc-container .idc-tb .idc-tb-title{font-size:15px;line-height:1.3em;margin:0}#idc-container .idc-tb .idc-tb_i{font-size:10px;line-height:1.3em}#idc-container .idc-tb-t{margin:0 0 .3em}#idc-container .idc-foot{border-top:1px outset}#idc-container .idc-foot .idc-right{margin:4px 0 0;width:auto}#idc-container .idc-head_action{background:url(http://s.intensedebate.com/themes/un...dc-bg-1223.png) repeat-x 0 -700px;display:none;float:left;margin:0 0 8px;padding:1% 1.5%;width:97%;-moz-border-radius:4px;-o-border-radius:4px;-webkit-border-radius:4px;-khtml-border-radius:4px;border-radius:4px}#idc-container #IDLoginPopup,#idc-container #IDLoginOpenIDPopup{background-color:#444}#idc-container .idc-head_b{width:100%}#idc-container .idc-head_action strong{display:block;margin:0 0 .4em}#idc-container .idc-head .idc-text{width:90%}#idc-container .idc-head .idc-tools{clear:none;margin:4px 0 0;float:right;width:auto}#idc-container .idc-head .idc-tools a{float:right!important}#idc-container .idc-head .idc-tools .idc-btn_s{float:right!important;margin:0 0 0 6px!important}#idc-container .idc-head .idc-tools .idc-useopenid{float:left!important}#idc-container .idc-user .idc-head_action.idc-user{padding:1%;width:98%}#idc-container .idc-user .idc-user_i{padding:6px 0 0!important}#idc-container .idc-user .idc-user .idc-right{padding:6px 6px 0!important;width:auto}#idc-container .idc-user_admin{clear:both;float:none;padding:10px 0 0}#idc-container .idc-user_admin p{margin:0 0 4px}#idc-container .idc-user_i a{display:inline}#idc-container .idc-intensedebate_info{font-size:11px}#idc-container .idc-c-m{clear:left}#idc-container .idc-thread_loading{line-height:16px;margin:0 3px 15px}#idc-container .idc-thread_loading img{float:left;margin:0 5px 0 0}#idc-container .idc-toolbar{margin:0 0 8px}#idc-container .idc-toolbar p{margin:0}#idc-container .idc-toolbar a{margin:0 3px}#idc-container .idc-toolbar .idc-sel{font-weight:bold}#idc-container .idc-box{background:url(http://s.intensedebate.com/themes/un...dc-bg-1223.png) repeat-x 0 -700px;margin:4px 0 16px;padding:16px}#idc-container .idc-box p{margin-bottom:8px}#idc-container .idc-reply .idc-header{clear:none;margin:2px 0}#idc-container .idc-tb,#idc-container .idc-c{margin:0 0 15px}#idc-container .idc-c .idc-c-h{background:url(http://s.intensedebate.com/themes/un...iversal.png?=4) 100% 0;height:32px;margin:0 0 8px}#idc-container .idc-c .idc-c-h-inner{height:28px;margin:0 0 0 2px;padding:2px 2px 2px 0}#idc-container .idc-c-t{margin:0 0 10px;padding:0 8px;overflow:hidden}#idc-container .idc-c-t label{float:none}#idc-container.idc .idc-c-m{overflow:hidden}#idc-container.idc .idc-c-b{min-height:22px}#idc-container .idc-c .idc-i{clear:none;line-height:28px;height:28px;margin:0 0 0 8px}#idc-container .idc-c .idc-i span,#idc-container .idc-c .idc-i a{float:left;margin:0 3px 0 0}#idc-container .idc-c .idc-time a,#idc-container .idc-c .idc-time{color:#666;font-size:11px}#idc-container .idc-c .idc-time a{float:none;text-decoration:none}#idc-container .idc-c-h .idc-time a:hover{text-decoration:underline}#idc-container .idc-a_nomenu,#idc-container .idc-a{background:none!important;display:inline;float:l eft;margin:0 6px 0 0}#idc-container .idc-a img,#idc-container .idc-c.idc-anonymous .idc-a img:hover{height:26px;width:26px}#idc-container .idc-c .idc-a img,#idc-container .idc-c.idc-anonymous .idc-a img:hover{padding:1px}#idc-container .idc-c .idc-a img:hover{padding:0;width:28px;height:28px}#idc-container .idc-avatar{background:#ccc;float:left;overflow:hidden} #idc-container .idc-c.idc-error h5{background:#c00;color:#fff;padding:1px 2px}#idc-container .idc-friend .idc-c-h{background-position:100% -50px}#idc-container .idc-admin .idc-c-h{background-position:100% -100px}#idc-container .idc-thread .idc-c.idc-collapsed{-moz-opacity:.50;filter:alpha(opacity=50);opacity:.50}# idc-container .idc-c.idc-collapsed .idc-c-h{height:22px;margin:0}#idc-container .idc-c.idc-collapsed .idc-c-h-inner{height:18px}#idc-container .idc-c.idc-collapsed .idc-i{line-height:18px;height:18px;padding:0;margin:0 0 0 4px}#idc-container .idc-c.idc-collapsed .idc-i a,#idc-container .idc-c.idc-collapsed .idc-i span,#idc-container .idc-c.idc-collapsed .idc-c-b .idc-collapselink_closed,#idc-container .idc-c.idc-collapsed .idc-c-b .idc-thread_active{color:#666!important}#idc-container .idc-c.idc-collapsed .idc-c-h .idc-a,#idc-container .idc-c.idc-collapsed .idc-c-h .idc-v a,#idc-container .idc-c.idc-collapsed .idc-c-t,#idc-container .idc-c.idc-collapsed .idc-c-b .idc-btn_s,#idc-container .idc-c.idc-collapsed .idc-c-b .idc-btn_l,#idc-container .idc-c.idc-collapsed .idc-c-b .idc-right{display:none}#idc-container .idc-c.idc-collapsed .idc-c-h .idc-v{margin:0}#idc-container .idc-c.idc-collapsed .idc-rep{margin-top:2px!important}#IDCommentsNewThreadCover .idc-thread,#IDCommentsNewThreadCover .idc-c{width:100%!important}#idc-container .idc-c .idc-message{margin:0 0 .5em;width:97%}#idc-container .idc-comments .idc-c.idc-reply{margin:0 0 25px}#idc-container .idc-reply .idc-c-t{margin:0 0 2px;padding:0}#idc-container .idc-userbar{margin:5px 0 10px}#idc-container .idc-userbar-i{clear:none;line-height:28px;height:28px;margin:0 0 0 8px}#idc-container .idc-reply .idc-c-m{display:none;overflow:visible}#idc-container .idc-google .idc-google,#idc-container .idc-google_loggedin .idc-google_loggedin,#idc-container .idc-facebook .idc-facebook,#idc-container .idc-facebook_login .idc-facebook_login,#idc-container .idc-facebook_loggedin .idc-facebook_loggedin,#idc-container .idc-twitter_login .idc-twitter_login,#idc-container .idc-twitter_loggedin .idc-twitter_loggedin,#idc-container .idc-loggingin .idc-loggingin,#idc-container .idc-openid .idc-openid,#idc-container .idc-openid_signup .idc-openid_signup,#idc-container .idc-notvalidated .idc-notvalidated,#idc-container .idc-signup .idc-signup,#idc-container .idc-login .idc-login,#idc-container .idc-wp-login .idc-wp-login,#idc-container .idc-user .idc-user{display:block}#idc-container .idc-divide span{float:left;clear:both;margin:0 0 .4em}#idc-container .idc-c-m .idc-column-wide,#idc-container .idc-c-m .idc-column{clear:none;float:left;width:33%}#idc-container .idc-c-m .idc-column-wide{width:50%}#idc-container .idc-c-m .idc-text,#idc-container .idc-c-m label{width:90%;display:block;overflow:hidden;vert ical-align:baseline}#idc-container .idc-c-m label{padding:4px 0 0;width:auto}#idc-container .idc-c-m .idc-form-info{color:#999;font-size:10px;font-style:italic;line-height:1.3em}#idc-container .idc-info.idc-disable{background:url(http://s.intensedebate.com/themes/ch...00%;float:left }#idc-container .idc-info.idc-disable div p{margin:0 0 2px}#idc-container .idc-info.idc-disable{position:relative}#idc-container .idc-info{float:left;left:50%;display:none;margin:0 0 0 -156px;position:fixed;top:20%;width:313px;z-index:8000}#idc-container .idc-info div{width:auto;position:relative}#idc-container .idc-head .idc-comments-main .idc-info div{background:0}#idc-container .idc-info div div{background:url(http://s.intensedebate.com/themes/ch...s/idc-info.png) no-repeat top left;width:273px!important;float:left;padding:20px 20px 8px;margin:0}#idc-container .idc-info div div div{width:100%!important;background:none!important ;padding:0}#idc-container .idc-info div div.idc-bottom{background-position:bottom left!important;height:10px;width:313px!important;p adding:0;clear:both}#idc-container .idc-info div h6{font-size:15px!important;line-height:1.3em!important;font-weight:bold;margin:0 0 10px;color:#fff}#idc-container .idc-info div div p{float:none;font-size:13px;line-height:1.3em;margin:0 0 8px;color:#fff;clear:both;width:auto}#idc-container .idc-info div div form p{color:#666;font-size:12px}#idc-container .idc-info div ul{width:100%!important}#idc-container .idc-info div ul li{margin:0 0 5px;float:left;clear:both;padding:0 0 0 17px!important;font-size:13px;background:url(http://s.intensedebate.com/themes/ch...con_s_tick.png) no-repeat 0 0;color:#fff;width:90%}#idc-container .idc-info div p.idc-bottom{margin:10px 0 2px;width:90%;height:auto;float:left}#idc-container .idc-info div div.idc-bottom{width:313px}#idc-container .idc-info div .idc-close{margin:-10px -8px 0 0}#idc-container .idc-info div .idc-close span,#idc-container .idc-close span{display:none}#idc-container .idc-info div div div a{color:#fff}#idc-container .idc-info div div div a:hover{color:#def4ff}#idc-container .idc-info form{float:left;background:#fff;padding:8px;width: 232px;margin:0;-moz-border-radius:4px;-khtml-border-radius:4px;-webkit-border-radius:4px;border-radius:4px}#idc-container .idc-info form textarea{width:224px;height:60px;margin:0 0 6px!important;overflow-x:hidden}#idc-container .idc-info form a{color:#000!important;clear:both!important;float: left}#idc-container .idc-info label{font-size:12px;line-height:1.3em;color:#666}#idc-container .idc-info .idc-text{clear:both;margin:0 0 4px;width:224px}#idc-container .idc-info .idc-radio{clear:left}#idc-container .idc-c-highlighted{background-image:url(http://s.intensedebate.com/themes/universal/images/idc-c-highlight.png)!important;background-repeat:repeat-x!important}#idc-container .idc-info .idc-fade{color:#999;font-style:italic}.idc-loaded{background:#fff;width:1px!important;height: 1px;padding:0!important;position:absolute!importan t;top:0;left:0;z-index:-1;visibility:hidden}#idc-container-parent #idc-container .idc-c{height:auto}#idc-container .idc-skiplink{overflow:hidden!important;}#idc-container .idc-skiplink ul{position:absolute!important;left:-99999px!important;top:auto!important;width:1px!imp ortant;height:1px!important;}#idc-container .idc-fade,#idc-container .idc-fade a{color:#bbb!important;}#idc-container .idc-fade a:hover{color:#fff!important;}#idc-container .idc-c-b .idc-right a{margin:0 0 0 12px;}#idc-container .idc-info .idc-form_list{float:none!important;width:auto!importan t;}#idc-container .idc-info .idc-form_list li{margin:0 0 4px;float:none!important;background:none;padding:0 !important;width:auto!important;}#idc-container .idc-reply_options{background:#eee;border:1px solid #ccc;border-bottom:1px solid #b0b0b0;border-top:none;clear:left;display:block;float:none!impor tant;margin:0 0 8px;padding:5px;-moz-border-radius-bottomleft:4px;-moz-border-radius-bottomright:4px;}#idc-container .idc-reply_options ul{margin:0 0 0 -2px;}#idc-container .idc-reply_options li{margin:0 2px;}#idc-container .idc-reply_options .idc-option{display:block;line-height:20px!important;padding:2px 5px!important;-moz-border-radius:2px;}#idc-container .idc-reply_options a.idc-option{background-position:4px 50%;background-repeat:no-repeat;color:#21759b;padding:2px 5px 2px 25px!important;}#idc-container .idc-reply_options #IDCLoginIntenseDebate{background-image:url(http://s.intensedebate.com/favicon.ico);}#idc-container .idc-reply_options #IDCLoginOpenID{background-image:url(http://s.intensedebate.com/images1/icon-openid.png);}#idc-container .idc-reply_options a.idc-option:hover{background-color:#fff;color:#009EE4;}#idc-container .idc-reply_options .idc-sel .idc-option{background:#ccc!important;color:inherit!imp ortant;text-decoration:none;}#idc-container.idc .idc-reply_options .idc-divider{margin:0 4px!important;}#idc-container .idc-reply_options .idc-divider .idc-option{color:#999;}#idc-container .idc-character_count,#idc-container .idc-character_count_near,#idc-container .idc-character_count_over{text-align:right;}#idc-container .idc-character_count_near .idc-numbers{font-size:110%;}#idc-container .idc-character_count_over .idc-numbers{font-size:120%;}#idc-container .idc-character_count_over .idc-numbers strong:after{content:"!";}#idc-container .idc-infobar{background:url(http://s.intensedebate.com/themes/un...dc-infobar.png) no-repeat;height:41px;float:none;margin:0 0 8px;width:auto;overflow:hidden!important;}#idc-container .idc-infobar-inner{background:url(http://s.intensedebate.com/themes/un...dc-infobar.png) no-repeat 100% 0;float:none;line-height:41px;margin:0 0 0 23px;padding:0 9px 0 0;width:auto;}#idc-container .idc-infobar .idc-loading_img{margin:8px 0 -5px 0;padding:6px 3px 1px 9px;}#idc-container .idc-infobar-expand-wrap{border-left:1px solid #999;display:inline;float:left;height:21px;margin: 8px 0 8px 9px;padding:4px 0 0 9px;width:19px;}#idc-container .idc-infobar-expand,#idc-container .idc-infobar-expanded{background:url(http://s.intensedebate.com/themes/un...dc-infobar.png) no-repeat 0 -41px;display:block;height:18px;width:19px;}#idc-container .idc-infobar-expand span,#idc-container .idc-infobar-expanded span{display:none;}#idc-container .idc-infobar-expand:hover{background-position:-19px -41px;}#idc-container .idc-infobar-expanded{background-position:-38px -41px;}#idc-container .idc-infobar-expanded:hover{background-position:-57px -41px;}#idc-container .idc-infobar h3{clear:none;float:none;line-height:41px;}#idc-container .idc-infobar h3 small{font-size:13px;}#idc-container .idc-infobar .idc-infobar-options{float:left;line-height:41px;}#idc-container .idc-rss{background:url(http://s.intensedebate.com/themes/un...iversal.png?=4) no-repeat 0 -24px;display:block;float:left;height:10px;margin:0 3px 0 0;width:10px;overflow:hidden;}#idc-container .idc-rss:hover{background-position:0 -34px;}#idc-container .idc-rep{cursor:help;float:left;height:14px;margin:8px 3px 0 0!important;overflow:hidden;}#idc-container .idc-c .idc-rep span{background:url(http://s.intensedebate.com/themes/un...iversal.png?=4) -566px -150px;float:left;height:14px;width:5px;margin:0!im portant;}#idc-container .idc-c .idc-rep .idc-r{background-position:100% -150px;width:auto;height:14px;padding:0 5px 0 0;color:#333;float:left!important;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:11px;line-height:14px!important;margin:0!important;}#idc-container .idc-rep.idc-level2 span{background-position:-566px -178px;}#idc-container .idc-rep.idc-level2 .idc-r{background-position:100% -178px;color:#424b20;}#idc-container .idc-rep.idc-level1 span{background-position:-566px -164px;}#idc-container .idc-rep.idc-level1 .idc-r{background-position:100% -164px;color:#667726;}#idc-container .idc-rep.idc-level-1 span{background-position:-566px -192px;width:17px;}#idc-container .idc-rep.idc-level-1 .idc-r{background-position:100% -192px;color:#fff;width:auto;}#idc-container .idc-official,#idc-container .idc-helper{background:url(http://s.intensedebate.com/themes/un...iversal.png?=4) no-repeat;height:12px;margin:8px 3px 0 0!important;width:13px;}.idc-official span,.idc-helper span{display:none;}#idc-container .idc-helper{background-position:0 -12px;}#idc-container .idc-v{display:inline;float:right!important;margin:5px 2px 0 0;}#idc-container .idc-v .idc-v-total{display:inline;float:left;line-height:18px!important;margin:0 6px 0 0;}#idc-container .idc-v a{background:url(http://s.intensedebate.com/themes/un...iversal.png?=4) no-repeat 0 -176px;_background-image:url(http://s.intensedebate.com/themes/un...:18px;margin:0 3px 0 0;width:18px;}#idc-container .idc-v a span{display:none;}#idc-container a.idc-v-up:hover{background-position:0 -194px;}#idc-container a.idc-v-up:active{background-position:0 -212px;}#idc-container .idc-disabled a.idc-v-up{background-position:0 -230px;}#idc-container a.idc-v-down{background-position:-18px -176px;}#idc-container a.idc-v-down:hover{background-position:-18px -194px;}#idc-container a.idc-v-down:active{background-position:-18px -212px;}#idc-container .idc-disabled a.idc-v-down{background-position:-18px -230px;}#idc-container .idc-v.idc-disabled a{cursor:default!important;}#idc-container .idc-v a:hover{background-color:transparent!important;}#idc-container .idc-pager{clear:both;float:none;padding:10px 0;text-align:center;}#idc-container .idc-pager .idc-sel,#idc-container .idc-pager a{line-height:18px!important;padding:0 4px!important;}#idc-container .idc-pager .idc-sel{color:inherit;text-decoration:none;}#idc-container .idc-pager .idc-divider{float:none!important;}#idc-container .idc-clear{clear:both;display:block;}#idc-container .idc-pager_reply_loading,#idc-container .idc-pager_reply{clear:both;display:block;float:left;pa dding:0 0 .8em;}#idc-container .idc-pager_reply_loading div,#idc-container .idc-pager_reply div{padding:8px 8px 8px 26px;background:url(http://s.intensedebate.com/themes/un...-grey-0926.png) no-repeat -1530px -108px;float:left;}#idc-container .idc-pager_reply_loading div{background:url(http://s.intensedebate.com/images/ajax-loader.gif) no-repeat 0 8px;}#idc-container .idc-expand_comments{background:url(http://s.intensedebate.com/themes/un...dc-bg-1223.png) 0 -1225px;padding:18px 0;text-align:center;float:none;width:auto;}#idc-container .idc-expand_comments a{background:url(http://s.intensedebate.com/themes/un...dc-bg-1223.png) 0 -1303px;padding:3px 6px!important;-moz-border-radius:2px;-khtml-border-radius:2px;-webkit-border-radius:2px;border-radius:2px;}#idc-container .idc-expand_comments p{margin:0;}#idc-container .idc-c-admin{margin:6px 0 0;float:none!important;width:auto!important;}#idc-container .idc-c-admin .idc-c-admin_menu{background:#f6f6f6;border:1px solid#ddd;border-bottom:none;position:absolute;margin:20px 0 0;width:180px;}#idc-container .idc-c-admin .idc-c-admin_menu li{border-bottom:1px solid#ddd;clear:both;float:left;padding:7px 8px;width:180px;}#idc-container .idc-c-admin .idc-c-admin_menu a{color:#333;display:block;padding:5px 6px!important;text-decoration:none;width:168px;}#idc-container .idc-c-admin .idc-c-admin_menu a:hover{background:#fff;}#idc-container .idc-head_tools-share{background:url(http://s.intensedebate.com/themes/un...iversal.png?=4) no-repeat -516px -1031px;display:block;height:18px;text-indent:-9999px;width:36px;}#idc-container .idc-head_tools-share:hover{background-position:-516px -1049px;}#idc-container .idc-share{clear:none;color:#444;float:left;display:inl ine;position:relative;width:36px;}#idc-container .idc-share .idc-share_inner{background:#fff;border:1px solid #ccc;display:none;float:right;clear:none;margin:17 px 0 0;padding:10px;position:absolute;right:0;width:228 px;-moz-border-radius:4px;-o-border-radius:4px;-webkit-border-radius:4px;-khtml-border-radius:4px;border-radius:4px;-moz-border-radius-topright:0;-o-border-top-right-radius:0;-webkit-border-top-right-radius:0;-khtml-border-top-right-radius:0;border-top-right-radius:0;-moz-box-shadow:0 1px 2px #ccc;-o-box-shadow:0 1px 2px #ccc;-webkit-box-shadow:0 1px 2px #ccc;-khtml-box-shadow:0 1px 2px #ccc;box-shadow:0 1px 2px #ccc;}#idc-container .idc-share_inner div{width:100%;}#idc-container .idc-share_inner a{color:#444;text-decoration:none;}#idc-container .idc-share_inner a:hover{background-color:none!important;text-decoration:underline;}#idc-container .idc-share-tabs{background:url(http://s.intensedebate.com/themes/un.../idc-share.png) no-repeat 100% 100%;float:none;height:21px;padding:0 2px;margin:0 0 6px;}#idc-container .idc-share-tabs li{float:left;}#idc-container .idc-share-tabs a{color:#222;float:left;padding:0 0 0 10px!important;}#idc-container .idc-share-tabs a span{display:block;height:19px;padding:2px 10px 0 0!important;}#idc-container .idc-share-tabs .idc-sel a{background:url(http://s.intensedebate.com/themes/un.../idc-share.png) no-repeat -220px 0;text-decoration:none;}#idc-container .idc-share-tabs .idc-sel a span{background:url(http://s.intensedebate.com/themes/un.../idc-share.png) no-repeat 100% 0;}#idc-container .idc-share .idc-subscribe-email{display:inline-block;float:left;margin:6px 0 0;width:100%;}#idc-container .idc-share .idc-subscribe-email .idc-btn_s{margin:1px 4px 0 0!important;}#idc-container .idc-share .idc-share-list{float:left;width:110px;}#idc-container .idc-share .idc-share-list li{clear:both;padding:0 0 3px!important;}#idc-container .idc-share .idc-share-list li a{float:left;}#idc-container .idc-share p{padding:0 0 6px;}#idc-container .idc-head_tools-login{color:#444;cursor:pointer;display:inline;flo at:left;height:18px;margin:0 2px 0 0;}#idc-container .idc-head_tools-login span{background:url(http://s.intensedebate.com/themes/un...iversal.png?=4) no-repeat -516px -977px;display:block;font-size:12px;float:left;height:18px;line-height:18px;padding:0 0 0 18px;}#idc-container .idc-head_tools-login .idc-r{background:url(http://s.intensedebate.com/themes/un...iversal.png?=4) no-repeat 100% -977px;height:18px;_overflow:hidden;padding:0;width :3px;}#idc-container .idc-head_tools-login:hover span{background-position:-516px -995px;}#idc-container .idc-head_tools-login:hover .idc-r{background-position:100% -995px;}#idc-container .idc-head_tools-login:active span{background-position:-516px -1013px;}#idc-container .idc-head_tools-login:active .idc-r{background-position:100% -1013px;}#idc-container .idc-postnav{float:none!important;margin:2px 0;}#idc-container .idc-postnav-list{float:left;min-height:21px;}#idc-container .idc-postnav-list li{display:inline;float:left;line-height:21px!important;height:21px;margin:0 4px 4px 0;list-style:none!important;}#idc-container .idc-postnav-label{float:left;line-height:21px;margin:0 5px 0 0;}#idc-container .idc-loginbtn_wordpress,#idc-container .idc-loginbtn_intensedebate,#idc-container .idc-loginbtn_twitter,#idc-container .idc-loginbtn_openid{background:url(http://s.intensedebate.com/themes/un...iversal.png?=4) no-repeat -292px -150px;display:block;height:21px;text-indent:-9999px;width:95px;}#idc-container .idc-loginbtn_twitter{background-position:-387px -150px;width:80px;}#idc-container .idc-loginbtn_openid{background-position:-467px -150px;width:71px;}#idc-container .idc-loginbtn_wordpress{background-position:-165px -150px;width:127px;}#idc-container .idc-head .idc-head_action.idc-openid,#idc-container .idc-head .idc-head_action.idc-wp-login,#idc-container .idc-head .idc-head_action.idc-login{-webkit-box-shadow:0 3px 10px #444;-moz-box-shadow:0 3px 10px #444;box-shadow:0 3px 10px #444;background-position:0 0;color:#fff;left:50%;margin-left:-250px;padding:13px 15px;position:fixed;_position:absolute!important;_ background:url(http://s.intensedebate.com/themes/universal/images/idc-bg-1223.png);_left:350px;top:25%;width:400px;z-index:7000;}#idc-container .idc-head .idc-head_action.idc-openid a,#idc-container .idc-head .idc-head_action.idc-wp-login a,#idc-container .idc-head .idc-head_action.idc-login a{color:#fff;text-decoration:underline;}#idc-container .idc-head .idc-head_action.idc-openid .idc-divide,#idc-container .idc-head .idc-head_action.idc-wp-login .idc-divide,#idc-container .idc-head .idc-head_action.idc-login .idc-divide{clear:none;}#idc-container .idc-form-action{margin:0 8px 0 0;}#idc-container div .idc-c-plugins{float:right;height:16px;margin:-20px 0 0 0;}#idc-container div .idc-c-plugins a{display:block;}#idc-container div .idc-c-plugins img{display:inline;float:left;margin:0 4px 0 0;}#idc-container div .idc-c-plugins li{float:left;font-size:11px;margin:0 4px;}#idc-container .idc-id{font-size:12px;margin:5px 0 0;}#idc-container .idc-id span{float:left;display:inline;margin:0 2px 0 0;}#idc-container .idc-idlogo{background:url(http://s.intensedebate.com/themes/un...iversal.png?=4) no-repeat 0 -150px;_background-image:url(http://s.intensedebate.com/themes/universal/images/idc-universal-ie6.png?=4);float:left;height:15px;text-indent:-9999px;width:78px;}#idc-container .idc-a .idc-a-facebook{margin:13px 0 -1px -5px;padding:0!important;height:16px!important;widt h:16px!important;}#idc-clear{clear:both;display:block;}#idc-container div.idc-m{color:#333;float:left;display:none;margin:-5px 0 0 -6px;position:absolute;width:345px;z-index:5000;}#idc-container .idc-m .idc-m-avatar{background:url(http://s.intensedebate.com/themes/un...iversal.png?=4) no-repeat -457px -206px;float:left;height:115px;padding:6px 7px;width:86px;}#idc-container .idc-m .idc-m-avatar a{display:block;height:89px;}#idc-container .idc-m .idc-m-avatar.idc-m-avatar-loading{cursor:pointer;}#idc-container .idc-m-avatar .idc-m-avatarimg{margin:0 0 3px;}#idc-container .idc-m-loadingimg{margin:38px 0 0 27px;}#idc-container .idc-m .idc-m-main{background:url(http://s.intensedebate.com/themes/un...iversal.png?=4) no-repeat -558px -206px;clear:none;display:inline;float:right;margin :-4px 0 0 -13px;min-height:97px;_height:97px;padding:16px 17px 0 23px;position:relative;width:218px;}#idc-container .idc-m a{color:#0090d6;}#idc-container .idc-m a:hover{color:#009ee4;}#idc-container .idc-m .idc-m-section-title{font-weight:bold;margin:.8em 0 0;}#idc-container a.idc-m-username{color:#333;float:left;font-size:18px;line-height:1em;overflow:visible;}#idc-container .idc-m-list{float:none;}#idc-container .idc-m-list li{float:none;}#idc-container .idc-m .idc-m-bottom{background:url(http://s.intensedebate.com/themes/un...iversal.png?=4) no-repeat -558px -821px;clear:none;float:right;margin:0 0 0 -13px;min-height:0;height:18px;padding:0 17px 0 23px;position:relative;width:218px;}#idc-container .idc-m p{font-size:12px;line-height:1.3em;margin:0;float:none;}#idc-container .idc-m .idc-about-none,#idc-container .idc-m .idc-about{margin:.8em 0 0;}#idc-container .idc-m .idc-about-none,#idc-container a.idc-date{color:#999;font-style:italic;}#idc-container .idc-m .idc-rep{margin:1px 0 0 5px!important;}#idc-container .idc-m-idprofile{background:url(http://s.intensedebate.com/themes/un...iversal.png?=4) no-repeat -300px -340px;color:#fff!important;display:block;height:25 px;line-height:25px;margin:1em -1px 0;text-align:center;width:220px;}#idc-container .idc-m-idprofile:hover{background-position:-300px -365px;}#idc-container .idc-m-idprofile:active{background-position:-300px -390px;}#idc-container.idc .idc-follow-disabled{color:#999;display:block;font-style:italic;font-size:11px;line-height:20px;text-align:center;}#idc-container.idc .idc-m .idc-follow1,#idc-container.idc .idc-m .idc-follow2,#idc-container.idc .idc-m .idc-follow{background:#57D400 url(http://s.intensedebate.com/themes/un...iversal.png?=4) no-repeat 0 -260px;color:#fff!important;display:block;height:20 px;line-height:20px;padding:0 4px 0 20px!important;text-shadow:0 1px 2px #ccc;-moz-border-radius:2px;-khtml-border-radius:2px;-webkit-border-radius:2px;border-radius:2px;}#idc-container.idc .idc-m .idc-follow1{background:#B2B2B2 url(http://s.intensedebate.com/themes/un...iversal.png?=4) no-repeat 0 -440px;cursor:default;}#idc-container.idc .idc-m .idc-follow2{background:#B2B2B2 url(http://s.intensedebate.com/themes/un...iversal.png?=4) no-repeat 0 -440px;cursor:default;}#idc-container.idc a.idc-follow:hover{background-position:0 -320px;}#idc-container.idc a.idc-follow:active{background-position:0 -380px;}#idc-container .idc-thread .idc-thread .idc-thread{padding:0 0 0 18px!important;}#idc-container .idc-thread .idc-thread .idc-c{background:url(http://s.intensedebate.com/themes/un...-grey-0404.png) no-repeat -1533px -104px;padding:5px 0 0 18px;}#idc-container .idc-thread.idc-collapse .idc-thread{display:none;}#idc-container .idc-thread_info{clear:both;display:none;float:left;pad ding:0 0 .8em;}#idc-container .idc-thread.idc-collapse .idc-thread_info{display:block;}#idc-container .idc-thread_info div{padding:8px 8px 8px 26px;background:url(http://s.intensedebate.com/themes/un...-grey-0404.png) no-repeat -1533px -108px;float:left;}#idc-container .idc-thread_info h5{margin:0;}#idc-container .idc-thread-h{display:block!important;}#idc-container .idc-right .idc-btn_l{margin:0 0 0 6px !important;}#idc-container .idc-btn_l,#idc-container .idc-btn_s{background: none;cursor: pointer;float: left;outline: none;padding:0;white-space: nowrap;border: none;font-family: "Lucida Grande",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-weight: normal;text-decoration: none;}#idc-container .idc-btn_s span,#idc-container .idc-btn_l span{background-repeat: no-repeat;display:block;float: left;color:#fff;cursor:pointer;height:29px;width:2 0px;-moz-text-shadow:0 1px 0 #333;-o-text-shadow:0 1px 0 #333;-webkit-text-shadow:0 1px 0 #333;-khtml-text-shadow:0 1px 0 #333;text-shadow:0 1px 0 #333;}#idc-container .idc-btn_s .idc-r,#idc-container .idc-btn_l .idc-r{background-position:100% 0 !important;font-size:15px !important;line-height:1em !important;height:23px;padding:6px 20px 0 0;width:auto;}#idc-container .idc-btn_s:hover span,#idc-container .idc-btn_l:hover span{background-position:0 -29px !important;}#idc-container .idc-btn_s:hover .idc-r,#idc-container .idc-btn_l:hover .idc-r{background-position:100% -29px !important;}#idc-container .idc-btn_s:active span,#idc-container .idc-btn_l:active span{background-position:0 -58px !important;}#idc-container .idc-btn_s:active .idc-r,#idc-container .idc-btn_l:active .idc-r{background-position:100% -58px !important;}#idc-container .idc-btn_s strong,#idc-container .idc-btn_l strong{font-weight: normal !important;line-height:1em !important;}#idc-container-parent #idc-container span.idc-btn_s span,#idc-container-parent #idc-container span.idc-btn_l span{background-position:0 0 !important;cursor:default;filter:alpha(opacity=50) ;-moz-opacity:0.5;-khtml-opacity:0.5;opacity:0.5;}#idc-container-parent #idc-container span.idc-btn_s .idc-r,#idc-container-parent #idc-container span.idc-btn_l .idc-r{background-position:100% 0 !important;}#idc-container .idc-btn_s-secondary,#idc-container .idc-btn_l-secondary{line-height:28px !important;margin:0 4px 0 0 !important;}#idc-container .idc-c-b .idc-right a,#idc-container .idc-c-b .idc-loadtext{float: left;}#idc-container .idc-c-b,#idc-container .idc-c-b .idc-right{line-height:28px;}#idc-container .idc-btn_s span,#idc-container .idc-btn_l span{background-image: url(http://s.intensedebate.com/idc/butto...kground-image: url(http://s.intensedebate.com/idc/butto...-text-shadow:0 1px 0 #af6906;-o-text-shadow:0 1px 0 #af6906;-webkit-text-shadow:0 1px 0 #af6906;-khtml-text-shadow:0 1px 0 #af6906;text-shadow:0 1px 0 #af6906;}#idc-container .idc-head_tools-login{display:none;}#idc-container .idc-id{display:none;}

Click here to view the whole thread at www.sammyboy.com.