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Heya Bro WB,
always a delight to read your well considered posts! This topic is best discussed over drinks so thoughts/ideas can be supported and better illustrated. Posts over such a complex topic can often be misinterpreted due to the limitations of this medium. Still, let me try. If a gal is just plain rude, she will never be attractive to men such as us. Some men get KCed because they crave a challenge (which I suspect is what goodpartner desires - not saying the gal is rude, but it sounds like a difficult chase). Since he is actively seeking an adventure in the "taming of a shrew", he deserves whatever hardship(s) he will face. I do wish him eventual success though because success is indeed sweeter for hard won prizes. LOL Coming back to your point, what if something we did caused a gal to give us pervasive disrespect? In such a case, I will eat humble pie and apologise (the magnitude of which will be commensurate with the perceived wrong). If the gal thinks she "won" and persists in unreasonable behaviours, your response would be entirely appropriate. I would also make it clear to the girl that our breakdown was due to her action/inactions. IMHO, that is not only manly, but also reasonable. No poised, proud and confident woman would remain in a relationship with a manly but irreverent man. Your growth over the months Bro WB is clear and significant. Your successes are a testament to that fact. Something that I would add that you may have already considered is what I call "true compatibility" between couples (both physical and mental). A man can learn what to say to bring about the right response from a gal once her personality traits are established. For instance, give praise to a woman who values her own beauty (but has internal low self-esteem) or use macho statements on girls who desire he-men. Men who achieve this skill become "Players". Women who master such skills can toy with men's feelings because they can mask their real emotions and show you what you desire often for the goal of sex or money. Very dangerous as they can pretend to be anyone they want to snare the unwary but also dangerous for them, as the weak willed lose themselves. See that handsome playa who broods unhappily at the corner when he thinks no one is looking? Does that look indicate real happiness to you? How about couples you see as mismatched? Handsome man and ugly gal? Have you looked closer? That man looks blissfully happy on 2nd inspection. He has decided what he wants in a relationship and has achieved what brings him happiness. Bros should simply keep in mind that ultimate happiness will elude you if you compromise yourself in order to score with babes. To find a soul mate is to find a lady who loves you for being YOU. So being a MCP would give a soul mate feelings of security and comfort while another woman would find the same man boorish and rude. Women who likes YOU would gravitate and be attracted to you. In the end, a man should understand what brings him happiness and just get to living life (the main difficulty is realising just what type of partner gives you bliss). If playing a childish and cute little boy gives you joy to a lady who finds such behaviours adorable or that overcoming challenges provides satisfaction, just do what makes you tick. You cannot deny who you are and we are mighty indeed. Big B |
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Unfortunately (just tried) unable to upz U again. Cheers.
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Ths so much for ur well written n insightful post. If I hv made an egregious error in judgment which is hurtful to my mistress, I'll apologize to her n do my best to restore her confidence n trust in me. If she continues to show pervasive disrespect toward me, the RS is over. Period. How to become unconditionally happy is my favorite topic. Happiness is an internal state and must be independent of other people n external circumstances. Oftentimes, we hv little control over the behaviour of other human beings including those closest to us n to the world we live in. What if there is a fatal accident involving our loved ones or a natural cataclysm? The only thing we can control is our own emotions n happiness...our self mastery. Lao Zi: “He who controls others may be powerful, but he who has mastered himself is mightier still.” Cheers! Quote:
Great post! Short n sweet. I'll marry the one who loves me more. Applying my new found understanding n self mastery, the other party will always like/love me more in all my current n future RS, haha. Cheers! .................................................. ........................... Good morning! As u recall, I met two chio non-WL students JR n VO earlier this month. Last Fri afternoon I proposed the idea of BY-ing both of them under one roof! It was a bold move as I risked losing both of them. I called JR at 3PM while she was at school n she was taken very surprised but promised to ask VO n get back to me. It took them 1 hr n their answer was YES n they would like to meet me for dinner after school at 6PM. I picked them up at a MRT station n took them to dinner. I sent them back to a MRT station near Orchard Rd n then rushed to DC for my scheduled SH session at 920PM. Gals there were disappointing n I called my lao po to come at 10PM... I hv been in active negotiations over the terms of double BY w/ JR n VO. However, their original terms r not acceptable to me n I hv made a counter offer. If they say NO, I'll walk away. They say no to tarma, at least in the beginning, which greatly diminishes the value of double BY. Separately, the 17 yo gorgeous Fujian gal FF I met one yr ago wants to return to SG on a visitor's pass n has agreed to my terms. I told her to come in mid May when I'll be here again. My post on FF, 21/02/2011: "I'm not BY-ing FF bcos she is only 17 according to her passport. I guess I may hv to add her to the list of gals who hv consented to BY but I wont or couldnt consummate the deal, at least for now. I hv not given up yet since she is so cute n so fresh...my didi becomes very stiff just thinking of her. I'm checking w/ my lawyers to find a solution. She is leaving SG soon. I may hv to wait till the 2nd half of the yr when she turns 18. If I take her out for dinner n only french her, am I breaking any laws? I'll tell her to apply for a student visa." I hv yet another gal who agrees to BY, the 169cm JY whom I met at TAM late last yr. I also want her to come in May, hahaha. Cheers! Bro WB |
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More on my double BY: The older JR has rejected my terms, but the younger VO has hinted that she would accept my offer as she finds me trustworthy n she feels safe w/ me... Separately, a few days ago I reestablished ctc w/ a Fujian gal XYZ who agreed to be BY-ed in Dec of 2009. The deal was not consummated cuz she insisted on getting paid once a month, whereas I said half monthly or else. Shortly thereafter, she went back to PRC for CNY, but was unable to return to SG, most likely due to her prior arrest for working at LV. She was a chio, fair n tall (170) SYT w/ a very sexy figure n nice long legs. See my post on her: http://sbfsg.agency/showthre...133505&page=48 The reason I mentioned her is that I found something on her QQ which is quite illuminating n insightful: 婚姻,只是一纸合约。爱情,也不是绳索。对方,永远不是你的附属。爱情不是永远的,婚姻不是永远的,只有一 种永远:自由与平等。你们随时有权决定在一起或不在一起。而且,根本不需要理由。以婚姻的名义,以爱情的名 义,去独占对方,去限制对方,去管理对方,去教育对方,都是可耻的。也是悲剧的根源。 I couldn't agree w/ her more. Yeah, freedom n equality. Cheers! Bro WB |
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Guru, this kinda expression from a wl is a clear justification for u to play already.
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Good morning! Are u referring to XYZ's writing? Pls elaborate. Looking at the Big Picture, I actually concur w/ her as nothing lasts forever in our known Universe. Cheers! Bro WB |
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But if one applies this concept of nothing is forever and thus will also lead a a lack of need for the others mentioned above and will lead to a very self centered empty life Guru. The correct approach shud be, make every second count, dun waste it!
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The Choices We Make, Dictate The Life We Lead!!! The 4 Golden Rules in life: 1) 不要欺骗自己 2) 不要出卖自己 3) 不要背叛自己 4) 不要对不起自己 是你的,就是你的。 不是你的,不要抢! 人之所以快乐,不是因为得到的多、而是因为计较的少 Officially Retired From The Nite Scene |
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I have a question for the guru, how do I BY girls when I only earn 8k a month?
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Of course you're right. I always cherish friendship, love, commitment, responsibility n dependability... It's a fact that nothing lasts forever, but that realization doesn't mean life is empty, my Master. Yes, life is precious n finite n time is more valuable than money. To live life to the FULLEST, one must live in the eternally happy present moment n be unconditionally happy. Cheers! Quote:
You could BY a non-WL for as little as 1-2k a month or you could BY a WL for 2-3K a month, although she will need to work. A chio n cute 22 yo Dongbai gal at LV wanted only 3k a month to BY her (see my post around 24/11/2010). Or you could KC a gal deep deep n she will be ur GF for free. If she is rich or a WL, she may even pay u. But that's another story, it's NOT BY. Cheers! You're welcome!! Quote:
FF is 18 now. My other gal CL will be 18 in a few months... I'm always searching for my type of gals as they r very hard to come by, especially in SG. My preferred type of gals? 年青貌美华族或白种女孩子。 年龄最好在18岁-23岁之间,身高在164cm-174cm. 一定要身材匀称, 皮肤白皙, 乳房丰满(最少有B),手细腿长,臀部圆润。 有大专水平更好. Any such gals to intro? Several agents/frens in PRC inform me that such gals only want to be BY-ed in China n won't come to SG. Cheers! Bro WB |
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Thanks Bro WB for your replies.....always insightful! Cheers!
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You make my day! Cheers! .................................................. ...................................... Good morning! One of my best kakis is Bro Guru who is a master of ST. I hv learnt a great deal from observing him n consulting w/ him. Yesterday, I accepted his invitation to cheong at CD at 430PM. I met 2 gals, both young MILFs in their mid 20s, one agreed to ST n the other said No. An initial No means more money n more effort. I left early for dinner n Guru took one of the gals for ST, his 2nd ST yesterday. We were going to join several bros at LV SH later. After dinner, as I was driving to LV, I picked up a chio gal along Sophia Rd who was on her way to CI 3rd fl at TAM complex. She was also in her mid 20s w/ very sexy body, but not my type as her upper arms r slightly large. No doubt many bros will find her very attractive n a great bonk. At LV, we had a great time w/ 4 other bros including the legendary Bro RB. I had a slim n chio 19 yo gal w/ perfect height (170) who is a medical student in PRC. I've qualified her n will take her out to dinner. I asked her abt 3 attributes she is proud of. A more shallow gal might say good looks, good figure n intelligence. I like her answers: 我很温柔, 善良, 孝顺。I may propose BY to her. BTW, Guru took another chio gal for ST. He is truly amazing! At this time, I like to quote an Ang Moh expert on the complex issues of confidence, attraction, money n body language: If pop culture teaches us anything, it’s that every woman is unique, complex, and complicated. How is it possible to create one system that will give you the power to attract all of them? Sure, all women are different in some ways, but when it comes to what women find attractive in a man, they’re a lot more similar than you might think. Ask as many women as you want, and the one thing they’ll all agree on is that they love men with confidence. It’s a MASSIVE misconception that men are confident because they are attractive – in fact, it’s the other way around. Men are attractive because they are confident. But if confidence is the number one quality that women find attractive in men, why is it that so many guys still don’t understand what confidence really is? Most people only think of confidence as a collection of shallow clichés they learned from their (well-intentioned, but misinformed) mothers: “Be yourself!” “Don’t be afraid to be who you are!” That advice was fine when you were a kid (or if you’re like me, even then I didn’t get it), but at this stage of your life it just doesn’t cut it. So what is confidence and why do women find it attractive? And the million dollar question, “How do you get it???” Remember our conversation about money from the last chapter? Let me refresh your memory: it’s a commonly held belief that women are attracted to men with money. The reason women seem to fall for wealthy men is that humans work on what is called a “slippery slope mentality,” which means that our thought processes typically follow an “If this, then that” pattern. When a woman sees a man with money, she might automatically think “Hm…this could be the man for me. I can have whatever I want. I will be treated well.” But subconsciously, there’s a lot more going on than the simple “I can get free stuff” thought process. After all, there are lots of guys out there who would treat her well – a bum could be the most loving and attentive boyfriend she’s ever had! – but she’s probably not going to be attracted to them because there are other factors at play in these situations. Women understand that having money is indicative of other desirable qualities that make a man valuable, including confidence. Think back to what we went over earlier: if you have money, you probably had to work for it. If you earned that much money working, you probably hold a powerful position in which many people depend on you. Women typically find the idea that a man being capable of performing under extreme amounts of pressure to be highly attractive. Women also like men in leadership positions because it signifies that people follow them, trust them, and place value on in their opinions and ideas. A man like that is able to make other people feel valuable simply because they are with them. Confidence, essentially, is the possession of the ability to increase the value of others around you. That’s why guys who don’t have money but do demonstrate this quality are still able to attract beautiful, self-assured women. So how do you exude this quality when you meet a woman? Before we talk about that, we have to examine what’s going on in a woman’s head when she first encounters you and decides how attractive you are. How does she evaluate you? How is she able to read your personality the way you’re reading this book? There’s one simple thing that we can all read naturally on the surface of everyone we meet: body language. I won’t go into too much detail here because body language is such an important topic that I’ve dedicated an entire chapter to it later on, so for now just know that humans read body language instantly and make countless assessments based on the information they gather from doing so. Why do we put so much faith in the messages of body language? Isn’t it something that could easily be faked? Actually, it’s not. Body language lives largely in your subconscious mind, which means that you’re not really aware of the messages it’s sending. Your subconscious mind is also home to your emotions, so whatever you’re feeling at any given moment tends to show automatically in your body language. Very few people are able to learn to completely and effectively control their body language, so it’s almost always an accurate, trustworthy source of information about someone. This brings up yet another important question: if body language is controlled by emotions, what are emotions controlled by? And if you figure out what is in charge of your emotions, can you override it and direct them consciously and control your emotions? Wouldn’t it be great if you had the power to make sure that you were never nervous, never flustered, never angry? If you could always be happy, confident, and in control? Of course it would! And believe it or not, it is possible. In order to do that, though, you’re going to have to learn to hack into your brain and make it work for you. The things that control your emotions are your beliefs. If you believe you’re confident, you will be. If you believe you’re in control, you are. If you believe you’re worth something, if you believe you have high-value, others will believe it too. If you don’t believe you have high value, your body language will project negative messages instead. And because your body language is controlled by your emotions and your emotions are controlled by your beliefs, women read your body language to assess what you believe, so make sure your beliefs aren’t limiting your success........................................... . I’m not going to pretend that redefining and reinventing your belief system is an easy task, because for most people it isn’t, but it’s one of the most important things you’ll ever do. In order to be a true badass with women, every man must get to the point where he can control his emotions to be positive so his body language naturally falls in line with those emotions. The interesting thing is that women don’t necessarily read your body language and immediately decide whether or not they’re attracted to you. Don’t get me wrong – it does happen quickly, but women usually wait to see your reaction to something before making a true assessment of you. If they can see you in a situation in which you’re being tested in some way and they can watch your body language in that situation, they then know for sure that you’re acting from a direct link to your emotions, which are direct links to your beliefs, which show them whether or not you think you're truly valuable. The four women in the walking-down-the street example became attracted to you based on the body language they read from your reaction to their silence and laughter, not your initial body language. It's up to you to decide to have the powerful and positive belief system that will make you attractive to women. If you don't make a committed effort to acquire them, it won't matter what else you learn. You could read this book a million times and you'd still have trouble. It's not until you decide to have confident beliefs about yourself that you will be attractive to women. Women typically tend to be more perceptive than men, and better at detecting lies, so they’ll see right through you if you’re faking it. It is infinitely more effective to create a new belief system for yourself. ....................................... Cheers! Bro WB |
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Bro WB, very insightful thoughts here. Though I just joined, but i have been following this thread for months.
Learning from the experience and mistakes posted in this thread have allowed me to avoid the pitfalls other bros might encounter. Some great discussions as well which are thought provoking, and allows me to constantly reflect on my own thinking and behaviours Looking forward to more good stuff from you, cheers and have a nice day -Avg Joe |
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I appreciate ur compliments. You make my day! Pls also share ur experiences n expertise w/ us. Cheers! Bro WB .................................................. .................... Good morning! My personal motto: I'm improving myself, improving others n improving everything around me, constantly n relentlessly, in every way, every hr every day. I hereby present my "Flow Chart" for attraction n success in every area of life. Your Positive Belief System n Self Mastery ---> Positive Emotions ---> Pervasive Confidence ---> Positive Body Language n Actions (Regardless of What Happens n Under The Most Stressful Situations) ---> Attraction (n Success in Life) Still worry abt ur looks, height, weight, age, status, etc when approaching a very chio gal of ur dream? Remember this: You're very attractive to beautiful women cuz You're very confident. Another guru talks abt the importance of body language: An estimated 67% to 93% of human communication (according to university researchers) is non-verbal, and your body language reveals your internal emotional state. Whether someone's parents just died, or whether they just got promoted to CEO... you can tell by observing their body language. So, as a man who tries to pick up and seduce women, you should be mindful of what you're communicating non-verbally. Body language consists of the following: - Your movements. They should be nonchalant, as if you're so fabulously successful that there's rarely a reason for you to rush nor try to impress anybody. Move through the world doing what you want and assuming that others will follow. - The displacement of your body. Your arms and legs should be spread out. Don't be afraid to take up space. - Your voice. It should have a calm, soothing, and commanding effect. Don't speak too fast or strain your voice. - Your face. Keep your facial muscles relaxed. Never tense your jaw, and only rarely should you frown or wrinkle your brow. - Your shoulders. Keep them relaxed like they'd be if you just got a massage. Don't raise them up like a nervous person. I would even go as far as to say that you body language is more important than anything you say, because if your body language doesn't match what you say, then you won't succeed with women. You see, if you tell a woman stories that convey your confidence, but at the same time you slump over and fold your arms, then you come across as fake. I've picked up women before merely through the use of my body language. For example, a couple months ago I was at a coffee shop that I frequent, lounging on the couch, arms spread out, with my feet up on the table. The mindset I had was that I felt so comfortable that it was as if I were in my home lounging on my own couch. It was as if I owned the coffee shop. The net result was that a girl sitting near me put down her book and started engaging me in random small talk. (Whenever an attractive girl you don't know starts a random conversation with you, you should ALWAYS assume that she's attracted to you. This is because women generally won't risk the whole male-female dynamic, especially with a stranger, unless they feel attraction.) The conversation went on for awhile, I got her number, called her that night, and a few days later we met and after several hours went to her place, where I spent the night. (We finally had sex in the morning.) The bottom line though is that she became initially attracted to me and approached me because of my body language. Now, of course body language isn't enough. You also must have an internal alpha male mindset that's consistent with your body language. But make no mistake about it... if your body language conveys confidence, then your mood will also shift to become more confident. And have you ever noticed how when you walk with a spring in your step, you feel more upbeat? Conversely, when you cast your eyes down and drag your feet, you feel depressed. So your mindset also follows the body language that you adopt. So, in conclusion, be an alpha male with your mindset and your body language. Be in a woman's personal space and be sexual and interested in her, but at the same time don't be needy or desperate for her attention. Just be comfortable and enjoy yourself. And when your body language conveys that, it means you'll later be comfortable and enjoying yourself... with the woman. Cheers! Bro WB |
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