Ultimate ML.. Boh Beh Zhao...

[aristodemus690]

As someone who started this year, I also only figured out that most of the threads here are started by advertisers after awhile, while those threads that have many users post their finds / sharing in different regions will get shut down every once in awhile (e.g., east side, west side).. which is annoying.

That being said, I have found decent ML/services from advertisers because ads =/= bad.

It's more how the forum feels like there is very little authenticity. As a result, many bros also rather not come out to share. OKTs, etc. have little to lose, so they end up flooding not just as advertisers, but also fake FRs.

The better conversations I had with bros are usually through PMs, which is sad, because good things should share.

I don't believe in hoarding good ML because if business good, they will also want to stay and do longer. Don't need to be scared they busy until no slot just because I think they're a gem - the reality is my wallet can only allow me to go so many times. Gatekeep for what. ML level up you also enjoy more.

Regarding Tele groups / smaller groups with bros saying authentic sharing.. I've personally not managed to find or get invited to any of them, and I think it'll be the same for many of the newbies here. So I'll continue PMing decent bros who are generous, while also sharing my FRs as much and as real as possible.

Just my 2Bs.

[Allenc3]

Originally Posted by SgBoy86

Standards not there still wanna command for high fees, somemore SG got no lack of ah海. That's why PRC and Viet bus all flocking in.

Previously saw one thread where people say we should support and pay more to ML cos they getting lesser, sibeh delusional laugh die me. They cant wait to come here and sweet talk us, maybe show some skin and people will flock in to support them gaogao liao. Dun even need good service, they cant even survive in their own country cos they cant compete back there so come here earn robert money cos its easy money.

I agree, a lot ppl damn white knight unknowingly. See some massage tele grp every few days a bunch of ppl throwing pity party for the MLs/FLs, lol. Talking about how business is bad, economy bad, nobody visit barely any1 per day, discuss how much they earning etc. Business worse than usual true but its not to the point where the desirable ones can't survive.

I'm like I just went for massage few hrs ago, my ML has booking after me as well as I initially wanted that timeslot. During my 1 hr there, they rejected 3 walk-in customers (curtain joint, hear everything) as they were busy with only 2 MLs working while another 2 went for supper. Even when under this 3 days straight nonstop rain theres walk-ins. Plus I saw another guy going in to enquire right when I left. And their logbook was also filled almost full page and who knows if theres more, sometimes I go also never write.

Like idk they even care or kelian the average to low standard MLs/FLs. If they don't have the charm & pull to retain customers then they simply deserve it. And they seem to have the idea that its v tough and they earning peanuts unless angpai. I personally don't have any problem more places lower prices or close down and have new blood come in. I'm quite particular with looks and certainly won't miss those below average MLs who look older than me or are out of shape.

I've went out for supper/drink with a Cat 1 ML around mid this yr (aft work hrs, nvr buy clock and we split bills). She ownself talked and shared her earnings and the 5 figures estimates shared before by a senior in SBF is legit. Shes not even that pretty, just mid 20s Viet but has her charms to pull customers. But ppl seem to think otherwise in tele grps, prob dishonest MLs/FLs lying to them abt their earnings or they are just low standard MLs/FLs. Even in bad months like these few months, I'd believe above average will still survive just fine, earn gao gao and return to their countries.

[Mobile88]

Sometimes want to write detailed FR also cannot.
Already put YMMV then bro keep pm saying I’m lying because he didn’t get it and ML tell him she don’t provide.
Bloody hell. She can choose to tell him anything and he believe wholesale. Then like that zap

[gotnotime]

Originally Posted by Mobile88

Sometimes want to write detailed FR also cannot.
Already put YMMV then bro keep pm saying I’m lying because he didn’t get it and ML tell him she don’t provide.
Bloody hell. She can choose to tell him anything and he believe wholesale. Then like that zap

Yeah lor YMMV means whether the ML offers or not is up to her discretion or choosing liao. Some people just don't get it lol

[SgBoy86]

Originally Posted by Allenc3

I've went out for supper/drink with a Cat 1 ML around mid this yr (aft work hrs, nvr buy clock and we split bills). She ownself talked and shared her earnings and the 5 figures estimates shared before by a senior in SBF is legit. Shes not even that pretty, just mid 20s Viet but has her charms to pull customers. But ppl seem to think otherwise in tele grps, prob dishonest MLs/FLs lying to them abt their earnings or they are just low standard MLs/FLs. Even in bad months like these few months, I'd believe above average will still survive just fine, earn gao gao and return to their countries.

If you're mentioning some tele groups bro, i know which groups you are talking about. Most probably they kenna kc gaogao by the MLs liao lol.

While i dont deny that there are some really good MLs who are here to make a decent living and they're doing every little bit that they can to survive in this competitive industry (provide better service, improve massage skills, etc). Alot of them are just here for the quick buck, they have "sisters" who will share with them on how to fish for customers, how to bait them and how to sell their sob stories to get more cash from their customers.

Just take a look at the fall in love with ML thread, there is no lack of roberts and ah海 in SG who has 101 reasons to justify why they are willing to support their favourite MLs. Worse of all these people bring their "SG price standards" mentality and go overseas to become bigger carrots cos its cheaper overseas. Then spoil market again, stupidity really got no cure lol.

[sgpiggybank]

This is why I seldom read FR/MR nowadays. I can see there are at least 2 senior account here creating many clones and premium account posting fake FR for their own shop or paid by bosses or MLs on certain favors.

I rather post and share in my own close social group to avoid deletion of geniue MR/FR. Add only real chiongsters and not those post for personal favors and own gains.

[titan]

U also need to understand our rental/living expenses are very high, if u dont advertise, they prob will die off due to cost before becoming an ang pai. word of mouth is the best value for promoting but slow reach mah.

[giggsy_11]

Too many landmines been share and promoted
The most agonizing one i can remember vividly

Went ahead and book a slot with this ML
1st look wah easily 40 and above
Ok nvm, see got service anot
After GQ agreed and she took out her top
WtF, armpit hair not shaved! A mini bush

Never went back to the joint ever

[Newsasap]

Some of the contact given where the ladies working in those quickly fuck shop. In the room straight undress and go for shower, after dry up the girl will gives a quick blowjob followed by cap on, the whole session last less than 20 mins. These are the worst fuck in life. Such contact straight I delete off.