marrying a FL (ex-FL)

[sudis]

Hi bro,

I am so curious if any of the bros here married her wife (who used to be FL).
Appreciate if you can share some story:
-How you guys meet?
-what makes you decide marrying her? This gonna be so brave step.
-did you regret marrying her?
-how is your after marriage life?

[Castrol]

curiousity kills the cat, then the fish swims away... :D

[sammyboyfor]

Hi bro,

I am so curious if any of the bros here married her wife (who used to be FL).
Appreciate if you can share some story:
-How you guys meet?
-what makes you decide marrying her? This gonna be so brave step.
-did you regret marrying her?
-how is your after marriage life?

Only lunatics and really dumb people marry FLs.

[sudis]

Only lunatics and really dumb people marry FLs.

Bro, pls dont say that. Nobody is willing to share anymore after see your comment :D.

I'd incline to believe this is subjective, FLs are human too. They have heart and love. It could sound naive when having this discussion. But anything could happen since love is blind.

[Captainoceania77]

Is like digging its own tomb.......

[sammyboyfor]

Bro, pls dont say that. Nobody is willing to share anymore after see your comment :D.

I'd incline to believe this is subjective, FLs are human too. They have heart and love. It could sound naive when having this discussion. But anything could happen since love is blind.

This topic has been discussed to death. Do a search in this section. There's even a sticky on the subject.

FLs may belong to the human species but they certainly aren't normal. They have their own value system which is not in sync with the rest of society.

[a2014]

I'd incline to believe this is subjective, FLs are human too. They have heart and love. It could sound naive when having this discussion. But anything could happen since love is blind.
Well it all depends on how you look at it. The current society is as such that this is not acceptable by all standard.

Human is human, human wants to own something, want it new and guard it against others. Human don't want to share or own something that being used before or everyone seen it before.

However one very funny thing is that human after owning it for some time some will get sick of it and some will want to own some more and some throw it away.

Therefore there is no definite right or wrong. When love come in between you will fall head over heels into it. At that stage you will see nothing, hear nothing but make sure you don't loose your direction. What is done cannot be undone even if you throw it away later.

[dungyeu]

Why would someone trust a WL, not to mention marrying one. :eek:

One even said "I don't do this just for money." :rolleyes::rolleyes:

[lagonda]

Well it all depends on how you look at it. The current society is as such that this is not acceptable by all standard.

Human is human, human wants to own something, want it new and guard it against others. Human don't want to share or own something that being used before or everyone seen it before.

However one very funny thing is that human after owning it for some time some will get sick of it and some will want to own some more and some throw it away.

Therefore there is no definite right or wrong. When love come in between you will fall head over heels into it. At that stage you will see nothing, hear nothing but make sure you don't loose your direction. What is done cannot be undone even if you throw it away later.

quite the contrary bro,current society is more open about these things.strippers,wl,fl and pornstars get married and settle down with normal people.

[Mr007]

Don't mean to offend anyone but it's a fact (there is an exhibit at the Singapore Museum) that many early pioneers in Singapore married prostitutes and eventually settled down and started families. Just that some of us may be unaware of our history and start taking the moral high ground.

[lagonda]

Bro, pls dont say that. Nobody is willing to share anymore after see your comment :D.

I'd incline to believe this is subjective, FLs are human too. They have heart and love. It could sound naive when having this discussion. But anything could happen since love is blind.

while it is true that the matter is subjective.it all boils down to probabilities.emotions can be manipulated beyond sound reasoning and function if one is exposed to the same stress constantly.take soldiers for example,they have to go through mental rehabilitation after war or after service to integrate themselves back into society.it is not a naive topic but a pattern has already been drawn on the issue.i think what you are looking for is a successful case of marrying a fl and how it happened.this my friend is very rare and we have yet to stumble across one.

[big321big]

I think, the real subject at hand is, how do we find out if FL/WLs have kicked the habit of selling themselves? If we can find a way to prove that, then I guess that having a relationship with them is definitely possible.

[pting]

I think, the real subject at hand is, how do we find out if FL/WLs have kicked the habit of selling themselves? If we can find a way to prove that, then I guess that having a relationship with them is definitely possible.

I think the best way is find non-WL girl for dating and marriage.
Find FL/WL only for sexual fantasy and release.
Save ourselve alot of trouble trying to figure out many things.

[discordpiggy]

Only lunatics and really dumb people marry FLs.

i almost throw out my coffee!!! :D

someone married one and best, it is a foreign talent somemore...

and is also responsible for another local fl

hence at hand he is responsible for 2... very very capable and heroic Man! :D

I salute him! ;)

[joncheong]

i am sure there are guys who married local woman who used to FL at a point of their lives...if the woman dun tell...how will the guy know he has actually married a ex-fl unless he has patronised her before....

only thing he can be sure is he has married a non-virgin but how many virgins are there around nowadays...

[korean]

To be fair, a man who never find prostitutes/having affairs marry a women who never being a prostitute. :D

[demonhunter]

i almost throw out my coffee!!! :D

someone married one and best, it is a foreign talent somemore...

and is also responsible for another local fl

hence at hand he is responsible for 2... very very capable and heroic Man! :D

I salute him! ;)

Who ha ? SIC leh .

ps:coffee got kena neh neh ?

:D

[demonhunter]

Dear TS , can you imagine during the wedding dinner .... Half of the male attendees exchanging stories of how they bang the Bride good and proper !!!

:D

if im one of them , I would .:eek:

[discordpiggy]

i am sure there are guys who married local woman who used to FL at a point of their lives...if the woman dun tell...how will the guy know he has actually married a ex-fl unless he has patronised her before....

only thing he can be sure is he has married a non-virgin but how many virgins are there around nowadays...

wow! correct! he patronised them! BOTH! LOLs!

Who ha ? SIC leh .

ps:coffee got kena neh neh ?

:D

sorry dh, what is "SIC leh"?

no but closed... how u know tio neh neh?! :D

[demonhunter]

wow! correct! he patronised them! BOTH! LOLs!



sorry dh, what is "SIC leh"?

no but closed... how u know tio neh neh?! :D


SIC = Sharing Is Caring

I can feel your neh neh a bit warm n wet :D

[discordpiggy]

SIC = Sharing Is Caring

I can feel your neh neh a bit warm n wet :D

LOLS! how you feel?! :eek::rolleyes:

u tasted coffee with neh neh and milk?! :D

[LeeHsienLoong]

Why would a man marry a FL? :confused:
Women in this trade will have many reason for finding the right man but their principles and thought process are different.

[Ken79]

TS, u can marry a FL provided u didn't know about it.
if not u wanna marry someone who fucked more men in a day than u fuck women in 1 year?

[lagonda]

TS, u can marry a FL provided u didn't know about it.
if not u wanna marry someone who fucked more men in a day than u fuck women in 1 year?


this day and age in a more open minded society,i think no one is going to point the finger and judge a fl for the quantity of work that she has carried out.it is more of a trust issue than a moral hazard.people nowadays are willing to overlook anyform of stigma attached to one's prior profession.

[sudis]

thanks for the discussion folks although those are not what i'm expecting. but it's okay.

i'm expecting if there's anybody can share the real storing being successful or unsuccessful marriage with FL. But again I am aware not easy to find someone who's willing to share the details.

[MIFAcafe]

Imagine one day, someone came to you and tell you they have fuck your wife before.....$100 a pop... Can you swallow it?

If not, better don't try. Sure end up in divorce.

[conquer]

Imagine one day, someone came to you and tell you they have fuck your wife before.....$100 a pop... Can you swallow it?

If not, better don't try. Sure end up in divorce.

Why tell the husband if I can ask the wife for $50/pop now? :D:D:D

[damong777]

Imagine one day, someone came to you and tell you they have fuck your wife before.....$100 a pop... Can you swallow it?

If not, better don't try. Sure end up in divorce.

told my friend the same thing...worse case if the someone is your cousin or relative, you can live with it

[sammyboyfor]

thanks for the discussion folks although those are not what i'm expecting. but it's okay.

i'm expecting if there's anybody can share the real storing being successful or unsuccessful marriage with FL. But again I am aware not easy to find someone who's willing to share the details.

Here's one http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showthread.php?p=6782617&highlight=#post6782617

There are many similar stories scattered all over the forum. Do a search.

[joscklee]

TS

Unsure what's reason for u post here, but if you are thinking of marying FL ot any Whore then better think thrice.

Got a friend who volunteer in RC and always hear a P*P ball licker talking about a bro who married FL with following stats:

1. Worked in Lavender MP amd kenna caught during raid
2. This 'hosim' bro bail her
3. Married Whore who is PRC divorcee with 7yo son then (OMG)
4. Has second kid with Whore, which complicated current 'family'
5. Don't dare throw wedding dinner (as earlier post said: this Whore also lost count got fucked by how many bros, and may just happen some of those bros are invited)

now kpkm because last heard PR kenna rejected. . More trouble to come

[4getful]

TS, if u did not visit FL or WL, you will not know she is one or not. If you knew her the time you chiong, then it is good to heed some advice from experience bros here. It is not the matter of whether it will end up divorce or a bad wife, but rather the idea of many lecherous men licking her over. Somehow it make no different to me, thinking girls who has bfs before, also doing the same stuff. Sometimes the bfs they had raw r also chiongster visiting FL or WL. But at least the number of men they had are lesser, real less than a FL or WL. N true enough, FL or WL is more attractive than normal girls. So it depends whether your small head more important or face more important. There are many young local FL syt, one day they will get married also. So not knowing is a bless. Maybe if want safer, marry someone not that attractive. Don‘t desperately want a swee swee wife and keep thinking n counting how many men up her before.:rolleyes::D

[korean]

TS, if u did not visit FL or WL, you will not know she is one or not. If you knew her the time you chiong, then it is good to heed some advice from experience bros here. It is not the matter of whether it will end up divorce or a bad wife, but rather the idea of many lecherous men licking her over. Somehow it make no different to me, thinking girls who has bfs before, also doing the same stuff. Sometimes the bfs they had raw r also chiongster visiting FL or WL. But at least the number of men they had are lesser, real less than a FL or WL. N true enough, FL or WL is more attractive than normal girls. So it depends whether your small head more important or face more important. There are many young local FL syt, one day they will get married also. So not knowing is a bless. Maybe if want safer, marry someone not that attractive. Don‘t desperately want a swee swee wife and keep thinking n counting how many men up her before.:rolleyes::D

Bro, I guess not many bro Will keep thinking n counting how many men up his wife huh? And as u may know even local FL got not good looking one, so the risk is not lesser as compared to good looking one. So if possible better find a swee swee wife. If really want to minimize the risk, find wife with rich parent, no worry of money issue so unlikely be fl. As gal always saying, good looking and ugly guy both will find woman, as well find good looking guy. I guess maybe they should find poor men as no money to find women :D

[zan888]

TS, if u did not visit FL or WL, you will not know she is one or not. If you knew her the time you chiong, then it is good to heed some advice from experience bros here. It is not the matter of whether it will end up divorce or a bad wife, but rather the idea of many lecherous men licking her over. Somehow it make no different to me, thinking girls who has bfs before, also doing the same stuff. Sometimes the bfs they had raw r also chiongster visiting FL or WL. But at least the number of men they had are lesser, real less than a FL or WL. N true enough, FL or WL is more attractive than normal girls. So it depends whether your small head more important or face more important. There are many young local FL syt, one day they will get married also. So not knowing is a bless. Maybe if want safer, marry someone not that attractive. Don‘t desperately want a swee swee wife and keep thinking n counting how many men up her before.:rolleyes::D

If think this way then only fuck virgins lor.

If really jealous type then after fuck virgin , get her pregnant then marry her and make her wear chastity belt for rest of life and continuously make her pregnant and fat so nobody else desires her.

I would not say relationship with WL is not possible but marriage is not easy. It is not about worrying about the past but the future. Will she sell again or sleep with another again? Not to say any regular woman wont cos nowadays, I dare say maybe 50% of married woman will given the right circumstances. Maybe in WL case the rate is higher 80%-90% dunno? There are some WL who will be faithful and perhaps it is more likely the guys will be unfaithful 1st before WL? lol

[korean]

If think this way then only fuck virgins lor.

If really jealous type then after fuck virgin , get her pregnant then marry her and make her wear chastity belt for rest of life and continuously make her pregnant and fat so nobody else desires her.

I would not say relationship with WL is not possible but marriage is not easy. It is not about worrying about the past but the future. Will she sell again or sleep with another again? Not to say any regular woman wont cos nowadays, I dare say maybe 50% of married woman will given the right circumstances. Maybe in WL case the rate is higher 80%-90% dunno? There are some WL who will be faithful and perhaps it is more likely the guys will be unfaithful 1st before WL? lol

I like your reply. Yes keyword is future, and ya most likely guy unfaithful first. But the world is not fair, and human is very selfish.

[Bucky Barnes]

Bro, I guess not many bro Will keep thinking n counting how many men up his wife huh? And as u may know even local FL got not good looking one, so the risk is not lesser as compared to good looking one. So if possible better find a swee swee wife. If really want to minimize the risk, find wife with rich parent, no worry of money issue so unlikely be fl. As gal always saying, good looking and ugly guy both will find woman, as well find good looking guy. I guess maybe they should find poor men as no money to find women :D

Quite true, a lot of the local fls now aren't that chio. The really chio ones could be a sugarbabe or a party girlbw lots of ONS. So best thing is actually to not know.

[a2014]

the world is not fair, and human is very selfish.
In this fast changing society everything can happen. Wait till one day woman can marry 4 man while man can only marry one woman.

You actually don't know how many more outside other than you is with her as in this current world both work outside longer hours than at home. Therefore they are expose to outside world more than expose to you (sorry two different meaning for expose).

Therefore it may not necessary that a normal girl is better than a WL or FL. Rather all depends on what happened next. With a WL or FL, should any thing arises you are not surprise while on the other hand with a decent girl you will be surprise.

[shazai]

It is only to possible to marry a fl/ml if u love her so much that u can tolerate what she does for a living which is very hard for guys

[GreenGiraffe]

It is only to possible to marry a fl/ml if u love her so much that u can tolerate what she does for a living which is very hard for guys

probably as well

[porscheclub]

In this fast changing society everything can happen. Wait till one day woman can marry 4 man while man can only marry one woman.


Actually there are some existing places where the women have few husbands due to harsh environment or where the male ratio is very low. Humans do know how to survive :)

One particular tribe in Nepal area is such. Men die early in the mountains & frequently so the next sharing husband will take over the household including children & they never DNA who's the exact father.

[a2014]

I would not say relationship with WL is not possible but marriage is not easy.

There are some WL who will be faithful and perhaps it is more likely the guys will be unfaithful 1st before WL
This is true, you basically don't know what is going to happen. What happen when after marriage, she frequently receiving phone call be it from past customers or only friends and man sending her home, how do you feel.

Already non FL or WL wife now a day already having tendency of enjoying themself outside of their marriage life, you can see many bros here complaining already not to say a WL or FL. However I do see people getting some relatively good one too.

Again it's your own destiny if you decide to marry one.

[conquer]

It is only to possible to marry a fl/ml if u love her so much that u can tolerate what she does for a living which is very hard for guys

It is not her rotten pussy or her job that matters, it is how these women think. Their moral values and the way they think are totally different from normal people.

You can't imagine how they have to prepare their mind to be fucked by more than 10 strangers daily from morning till night.

[korean]

It is not her rotten pussy or her job that matters, it is how these women think. Their moral values and the way they think are totally different from normal people.

You can't imagine how they have to prepare their mind to be fucked by more than 10 strangers daily from morning till night.

Does moral of cheongster and noncheongster same?

[conquer]

Does moral of cheongster and noncheongster same?

No two humans think the same, but there are some fundamental values we share the same to live together in this society. These FL/ML/WL belong to the dark side of this world. When we are hanging around with colleagues, family, and friends, they trap themselves in a small room 24/7 to be fucked by strangers non-stop for several months (maybe years). My point is it is not easy to get a long with them (besides of fucking business) and not to mention to live the rest of our life with these ladies. Of course unless that bro is an OKT or a gigolo...

[ShadowRiders]

This is real case that happen to one of my former rider from our riding group.
He was a policeman at that time when there was a raid and many girls were brought back for immigration and vice activities. As most of the girls were foreigners they were held in the lockup pending investigations. He was manning the lockup during that week and became familiar with the detainees. He was particularly besotted by one beautiful Thai girl and during one night he had sex with her. It was consensual and no force was used. The tomyam was convicted of overstayer and vice after she admitted to working as an prostitute in the KTV where she was arrested. As the case took some time to go to court, she was heavily pregnant by the time the case go to court so investigation started as to how she got pregnant while in custody. My rider was implicated and finally convicted when dna results matched when the baby was born. He was sacked from the police and went to thailand to look for his baby daughter as both mother & baby were deported. He found them, married the FL and applied to bring them back to Malaysia. While waiting for approval he started a small business in Thailand and it became successful with his wife helping him. After about 5 years later approval was given for his family to came to Malaysia and they are now happily living in Malacca. His wife is busy helping to run his business and they are financially well off so I do not think she has any reason to return to her WL days. Their daughter also started schooling so she is now busy taking care of business & family.

Sometimes life works in strange ways..... there is no right or wrong when Allah decides your destiny.

[conquer]

This is real case that happen to one of my former rider from our riding group.
He was a policeman at that time when there was a raid and many girls were brought back for immigration and vice activities. As most of the girls were foreigners they were held in the lockup pending investigations. He was manning the lockup during that week and became familiar with the detainees. He was particularly besotted by one beautiful Thai girl and during one night he had sex with her. It was consensual and no force was used. The tomyam was convicted of overstayer and vice after she admitted to working as an prostitute in the KTV where she was arrested. As the case took some time to go to court, she was heavily pregnant by the time the case go to court so investigation started as to how she got pregnant while in custody. My rider was implicated and finally convicted when dna results matched when the baby was born. He was sacked from the police and went to thailand to look for his baby daughter as both mother & baby were deported. He found them, married the FL and applied to bring them back to Malaysia. While waiting for approval he started a small business in Thailand and it became successful with his wife helping him. After about 5 years later approval was given for his family to came to Malaysia and they are now happily living in Malacca. His wife is busy helping to run his business and they are financially well off so I do not think she has any reason to return to her WL days. Their daughter also started schooling so she is now busy taking care of business & family.

Sometimes life works in strange ways..... there is no right or wrong when Allah decides your destiny.


Wow, you mean that policeman cream-pied the Thai girl during her one-week custody in the police station? More amazing is SPF even bother if a prostitute pregnant and can actually know so accurately when did the fertilization happen.

I didn't realize also prostitutes have to be brought to court. I thought they were just sent back to their country.

Talking about eye-opening... @@

[korean]

No two humans think the same, but there are some fundamental values we share the same to live together in this society. These FL/ML/WL belong to the dark side of this world. When we are hanging around with colleagues, family, and friends, they trap themselves in a small room 24/7 to be fucked by strangers non-stop for several months (maybe years). My point is it is not easy to get a long with them (besides of fucking business) and not to mention to live the rest of our life with these ladies. Of course unless that bro is an OKT or a gigolo...

bro i think u didn't answer my question: Does moral of cheongster and noncheongster same?

As me as cheongster will always feel guitly to fuck so many woman, I will not look down on the WLs as I dont see myself as a good/clean person. I felt a normal gal most likely will not forgive/understand me if she knows what I'm doing, but probably WL will at least understand me as they see too many cases? Any thought from other cheongsters? or u guys looking yourself very atas n up and can look down on the WL who provided u guys good services? :confused:

[a2014]

Does moral of cheongster and noncheongster same?

Moral and whether a cheongster or not are two different thing. Moral is the principles and belief of a person and cheongster is the behaviour of a person.

I guess on the part of FL and WL, be it cheongster or not cheongster there is a lot of variation basically :

1) Do you look down on a FL or WL.

2) Can you accept an FL or WL as a lifetime partner.

3) Can you accept your FL or WL lifetime partner having other friends or even some other activities during your lifetime partnership.

I think point 1 is easy to answer. As for point 2 and 3 unless your heart is really that big. Most cheongster most likely will not look down on a WL or FL but I guess very certain they will say NO for marriage.

As for non cheongster no need to say already.

[korean]

Moral and whether a cheongster or not are two different thing. Moral is the principles and belief of a person and cheongster is the behaviour of a person.

I guess on the part of FL and WL, be it cheongster or not cheongster there is a lot of variation basically :

1) Do you look down on a FL or WL.

2) Can you accept an FL or WL as a lifetime partner.

3) Can you accept your FL or WL lifetime partner having other friends or even some other activities during your lifetime partnership.

I think point 1 is easy to answer. As for point 2 and 3 unless your heart is really that big. Most cheongster most likely will not look down on a WL or FL but I guess very certain they will say NO for marriage.

As for non cheongster no need to say already.

What is ur answer for point 1 as easy answer? I really have no clue

[a2014]

What is ur answer for point 1 as easy answer? I really have no clue
FL and WL is just only a job nature. Just like you go apply for a job in a company. Except they belongs to a different trade. Some people call it the darker side. Why should we look down on them, they use different part of their body to earn a living. Difficult to measure with moral principle.

Be it they have a choice or no choice.

Don't be surprise that WL and FL has good one as well, I don't dispute that.

[korean]

FL and WL is just only a job nature. Just like you go apply for a job in a company. Except they belongs to a different trade. Some people call it the darker side. Why should we look down on them, they use different part of their body to earn a living. Difficult to measure with moral principle.

Be it they have a choice or no choice.

Don't be surprise that WL and FL has good one as well, I don't dispute that.

I agree with u! :)

[sammyboyfor]

FL and WL is just only a job nature. Just like you go apply for a job in a company. Except they belongs to a different trade. Some people call it the darker side. Why should we look down on them, they use different part of their body to earn a living. Difficult to measure with moral principle.

That's good to hear. It means that you won't mind at all if your wife and daughter decided to join this honorable profession. :rolleyes:

[korean]

That's good to hear. It means that you won't mind at all if your wife and daughter decided to join this honorable profession. :rolleyes:

Boss, past as wl is one thing (out of our control), future as wl is another thing (our fault). I believe everyone agree that wl is not a honorable profession. But if She sincerely willing to wash hand shouldn't we have a choice to give them a chance? most religion teaches us to give people chances n forgive people. But oh well, I think majority of people is selfish. The world is big, but human heart is small, hard fact.

[MIFAcafe]

Base on the title of this thread.....

My own selfish conclusion: Never to marry a FL, WL etc. Girlfriend or fuck buddy is alright.

Can you imagine after you marry a FL; you dad or your brother tell you they up her before.......

It is easy say than done.

I believe in giving chance; but no to those that do not deserve it.

Just listen to what boss always say.....

Whore are for fucking; not for loving.

Boss, past as wl is one thing (out of our control), future as wl is another thing (our fault). I believe everyone agree that wl is not a honorable profession. But if She sincerely willing to wash hand shouldn't we have a choice to give them a chance? most religion teaches us to give people chances n forgive people. But oh well, I think majority of people is selfish. The world is big, but human heart is small, hard fact.

[korean]

Bro, although I not agree with u on everything below, but u got my respect as u admit it is selfish. I do agree people with right mindset will not look for a wl as a wife, as well as other gal with past history like murderer, theft, drug addicts, one night stander, etc etc. I think everyone wish is to get a princess, 女神 as wife. But this is not a perfect world, not every pair is Prince n princess, and love is blind. Perhaps fuck n forgot as boss said is the way to avoid those issue, but there will always some punters cannot practice :o

Base on the title of this thread.....

My own selfish conclusion: Never to marry a FL, WL etc. Girlfriend or fuck buddy is alright.

Can you imagine after you marry a FL; you dad or your brother tell you they up her before.......

It is easy say than done.

I believe in giving chance; but no to those that do not deserve it.

Just listen to what boss always say.....

Whore are for fucking; not for loving.

[MIFAcafe]

I never say I will never like one...... just that no way I will marry one.

Play play; gf gf..... ok.

Anyway in such a modern age; why do 2 person need to get married?

If getting married for the purpose of buying HDB.....?
Give her a title?
Give her sense of security?
It is really foolish.

And seriously; I doubt they deserve anything from the man they love.

If WL found true love; she will have a hard time differentiate sex for love or love for sex.

When come to relationship; one have to be very very selfish. I do not want to eat leftover; especially when a few hundred cheongster have fuck her and pass her to me.

For you to be able to accept them; show that you are man with a great heart. Maybe you should be a monk.

Bro, although I not agree with u on everything below, but u got my respect as u admit it is selfish. I do agree people with right mindset will not look for a wl as a wife, as well as other gal with past history like murderer, theft, drug addicts, one night stander, etc etc. I think everyone wish is to get a princess, 女神 as wife. But this is not a perfect world, not every pair is Prince n princess, and love is blind. Perhaps fuck n forgot as boss said is the way to avoid those issue, but there will always some punters cannot practice :o

[sammyboyfor]

Boss, past as wl is one thing (out of our control), future as wl is another thing (our fault). I believe everyone agree that wl is not a honorable profession. But if She sincerely willing to wash hand shouldn't we have a choice to give them a chance? most religion teaches us to give people chances n forgive people. But oh well, I think majority of people is selfish. The world is big, but human heart is small, hard fact.

99% of all whores are in it for the easy money and the comforts of relatively luxurious lifestyle.

A whore can leave the industry but her mindset is not going to change. The desire for an income that cannot be achieved without selling ones body will remain.

Once the money runs low, they'll revert to their old ways as long as they are able.

[korean]

99% of all whores are in it for the easy money and the comforts of relatively luxurious lifestyle.

A whore can leave the industry but her mindset is not going to change. The desire for an income that cannot be achieved without selling ones body will remain.

Once the money runs low, they'll revert to their old ways as long as they are able.

boss,
human mindset can change over time, hard fact, including u n me :) this especially if they got married?

[shctaw]

boss,
human mindset can change over time, hard fact, including u n me :) this especially if they got married?

Boss already say 1% will change. You like to play lottery.

[Beachsea]

99% of all whores are in it for the easy money and the comforts of relatively luxurious lifestyle.

A whore can leave the industry but her mindset is not going to change. The desire for an income that cannot be achieved without selling ones body will remain.

Once the money runs low, they'll revert to their old ways as long as they are able.

What Bro says here is right....The past where whore work due to real bad reasons are over really over.....

Now they are just in for the money luxuries stuffs....look at their handphone ? Newer than yours , yet says home no money for food and medicine?
There might be 1% or even 0.001% really been cheated to work or force due to family...but....

mostly are here just for QUICK MONEY! ..choosing an easy way out....
:D

If you want try..by all means...but not at the sake of your parents/friends or if u are already married.....:mad:

[korean]

Boss already say 1% will change. You like to play lottery.

I tot 1% is not refer to how many percent of wl will change but rather percentage of wl work not due to luxury pursue reason. Yes? No?

It is hard fact every human mind will change over times, be it big or little change.

[shctaw]

Sound like you have a WL wife. Hope I am wrong.

I tot 1% is not refer to how many percent of wl will change but rather percentage of wl work not due to luxury pursue reason. Yes? No?

It is hard fact every human mind will change over times, be it big or little change.

[korean]

Sound like you have a WL wife. Hope I am wrong.

If I dare to escape to prc then I will have one

[shctaw]

If I dare to escape to prc then I will have one

Nothing right or wrong in this world. My mentor told me. As long you are happy. Nothing should stop you.

[korean]

Nothing right or wrong in this world. My mentor told me. As long you are happy. Nothing should stop you.

thumb up! :) yes nothing right or wrong. ur mentor must be a wise man

[Ninja_Assassin]

Wow, you mean that policeman cream-pied the Thai girl during her one-week custody in the police station? More amazing is SPF even bother if a prostitute pregnant and can actually know so accurately when did the fertilization happen.

I didn't realize also prostitutes have to be brought to court. I thought they were just sent back to their country.

Talking about eye-opening... @@

Bro Shadowrider is from mudland.... so I believe it was the RMP policeman he was referring to and not from SPF. Anyway it is common knowledge that females in custody in mudland are fair game for the taking and many victims have related their experiences while inside their custody.... especially foreign women.

[arsenal_84]

99% of all whores are in it for the easy money and the comforts of relatively luxurious lifestyle.

A whore can leave the industry but her mindset is not going to change. The desire for an income that cannot be achieved without selling ones body will remain.

Once the money runs low, they'll revert to their old ways as long as they are able.

i agreed with boss.
seriously speaking, is always that tangling future that you are worried about.
initially i thought i also can accept it then the more i read, the more i realized that the 3 rules set by boss is true.

while is hard to fark and forget but is better not to get emotionally involved.
though easier said than done, chiong more and one's heart will get numb eventually to their antics.

[PRCktvbonker]

TS

Unsure what's reason for u post here, but if you are thinking of marying FL ot any Whore then better think thrice.

Got a friend who volunteer in RC and always hear a P*P ball licker talking about a bro who married FL with following stats:

1. Worked in Lavender MP amd kenna caught during raid
2. This 'hosim' bro bail her
3. Married Whore who is PRC divorcee with 7yo son then (OMG)
4. Has second kid with Whore, which complicated current 'family'
5. Don't dare throw wedding dinner (as earlier post said: this Whore also lost count got fucked by how many bros, and may just happen some of those bros are invited)

now kpkm because last heard PR kenna rejected. . More trouble to come

Hey BOSS!

There are really such lunatics and really dumb people marry FLs leh

[Keith2]

If I dare to escape to prc then I will have one

Whats holding back the courage ?

[korean]

Whats holding back the courage ?

Probably a life...

[lanpar]

TS, while I have often cautioned cheongsters not to flout the precautionary rule of thumb when cheonging, I do have two friends who are settled down with FLs.

Both of them are middle-income earners who own a house and a car.

Both of my friends have two children with their ex-FL wives. One has been married for 10 years and the other one is married for 8 years.

Before marriage, they both took a long time to make the crucial decision and fought to overcome societal pressure before finally making the plunge.

Both of them were in their 30s when they married their ex-FL PRC gfs.

Before meeting their ex-FL PRC gfs, one of my friends actually fell for an Indonesian FL from Batam and discovered that she was cheating on him and decided to stop the relationship. Two years later when he met his current PRC wife through KTV, he knew that the PRC wife was also sleeping with other men for money. However, his unyielding show of kindness to his PRC wife and sacrifices in terms of money and time finally won her over when she was his regular FL.

[porscheclub]

Both of them were in their 30s when they married their ex-FL PRC gfs.

Before meeting their ex-FL PRC gfs, one of my friends actually fell for an Indonesian FL from Batam and discovered that she was cheating on him and decided to stop the relationship. Two years later when he met his current PRC wife through KTV, he knew that the PRC wife was also sleeping with other men for money. However, his unyielding show of kindness to his PRC wife and sacrifices in terms of money and time finally won her over when she was his regular FL.

We can see a pattern here. He has been visiting FLs and so often that he dates them so accepting one as a wife is easier. I wish them well as it's a brave decision.

However, for the average Joe like us, please think about your descendants & legacy because we procreate to have stronger & better genes so select your spouse wisely. Even animals interbreed to survive.

Yes, there's no right or wrong when it comes to love & everybody are blind but we have choices so choose wisely & you'll be happier.

[Giansex]

love is blind, one of my bro also settle down with a fl, long distance relationship, another of my regular ml obtain citizenship, her husband working as a manager in stats board, she still working in this line too!

[korean]

read something interesting to share

http://www.pttbook.com/post_245081

[RelaFL]

Do whatever you like but bear the outcome.
No matter its happy ending or sad ending it all really depend. Nothing can go smoothly even you have plan it so well.

[FBInsp]

Just a qn for some thoughts..

Would u be with/marry a party girl who had lots of ons, flings or even fbs??

Or a FL who treats sex as just a work or business transaction? Let's talk about local FLs here ya...

FBInsp

[a2014]

Would u be with/marry a party girl who had lots of ons, flings or even fbs??

Or a FL who treats sex as just a work or business transaction? Let's talk about local FLs here ya...

FBInsp
It just only a matter of your definition of WL/FL and his definition. Who you met and who he met makes the difference. There are also bros reported some FL the met can only accompany you sitting around many touch hands and not even legs.

Of course when talking about WL/FL many will look at it from one direction only as this is how the word WL and FL being translated to.

I don't blame anyone from wanting a relationship with WL/FL but just a few words "watch out, be careful, take your time and take care, no regret."

[nikeguy]

Wow seem like everyone has different view coz everyone has encounter different story: it can be some bad story or good ending. I believe this girls have to brain wash themselves with their dream & goal without much guide n support for finance. But deep down they are just a girl who want to be normal like others too. some may come quietly n go back quietly. And hide everything in their heart. Some has no choice n give up but they hope to be useful in this world rather then die. So they can die enjoying themselves in every way they can. Just what I believe...:)

[zan888]

It just only a matter of your definition of WL/FL and his definition. Who you met and who he met makes the difference. There are also bros reported some FL the met can only accompany you sitting around many touch hands and not even legs.

Of course when talking about WL/FL many will look at it from one direction only as this is how the word WL and FL being translated to.

I don't blame anyone from wanting a relationship with WL/FL but just a few words "watch out, be careful, take your time and take care, no regret."

To paint every wl in the same light is like saying all lawyers are liers and all doctors are caring. Pigeon holing professions are for the less enlightened or for people who don't wish to think or analyse too much. Similarly many same people will say certain races have certain characteristics. Having said that it is not easy having a relationship with wl, even with regular girl already hard, not a question of how many men but additional issues to deal with. Wl are humans just like you and me.,except for many they do this because they don't have the same opportunity available to us in developed Singapore. If we are dirt poor, we may even be forced to sell our daughters this way. If you asked me I would be more proud to have a daughter who would sacrifice herself for me than a doctorate daughter who never visits me. It is not easy to do this and I wont wish it upon anyone.

[sammyboyfor]

To paint every wl in the same light is like saying all lawyers are liers and all doctors are caring. Pigeon holing professions are for the less enlightened or for people who don't wish to think or analyse too much. Similarly many same people will say certain races have certain characteristics. Having said that it is not easy having a relationship with wl, even with regular girl already hard, not a question of how many men but additional issues to deal with. Wl are humans just like you and me.,except for many they do this because they don't have the same opportunity available to us in developed Singapore. If we are dirt poor, we may even be forced to sell our daughters this way. If you asked me I would be more proud to have a daughter who would sacrifice herself for me than a doctorate daughter who never visits me. It is not easy to do this and I wont wish it upon anyone.

Girls don't become whores because they're dirt poor. They do it because for those with no morals and no self respect, it's a quick and easy way to make lots of money.

If they sold their bodies out of poverty, they wouldn't spend a large portion of their earnings on fancy LV bags and other ostentatious items. They'd save every cent they could.

[zan888]

Girls don't become whores because they're dirt poor. They do it because for those with no morals and no self respect, it's a quick and easy way to make lots of money.

If they sold their bodies out of poverty, they wouldn't spend a large portion of their earnings on fancy LV bags and other ostentatious items. They'd save every cent they could.

I will agree to disagree. Wl and flying are varied as there are various types of people in any profession. Pastors are all saints? Lawyers are all sharks? Yes perhaps true to some extent but to stereotype everybody in the same brush is not correct. I am not advocating relationship with wl or fl but we all have reasons to do things which may be considered illegal or immoral. So my moto is to judge a person's worth in totality and not because of what they did in the past or the work that they do. Just because someone is a monk or priest does not mean that they necessarily deserve my respect nor do I condemn someone because they used to be a hostess or social escorts. Yes many are money worshippers, yet we think more of the sales manager that suck cock to secure a contract? Many many woman have their price. Pay a million a night you can get 95%of girls to drop panties, suck dick, fuck your brains out. So we condemn 95% of all woman?

[KonfusedRudy]

To paint every wl in the same light is like saying all lawyers are liers and all doctors are caring. Pigeon holing professions are for the less enlightened or for people who don't wish to think or analyse too much. Similarly many same people will say certain races have certain characteristics. Having said that it is not easy having a relationship with wl, even with regular girl already hard, not a question of how many men but additional issues to deal with. Wl are humans just like you and me.,except for many they do this because they don't have the same opportunity available to us in developed Singapore. If we are dirt poor, we may even be forced to sell our daughters this way. If you asked me I would be more proud to have a daughter who would sacrifice herself for me than a doctorate daughter who never visits me. It is not easy to do this and I wont wish it upon anyone.

Girls don't become whores because they're dirt poor. They do it because for those with no morals and no self respect, it's a quick and easy way to make lots of money.

If they sold their bodies out of poverty, they wouldn't spend a large portion of their earnings on fancy LV bags and other ostentatious items. They'd save every cent they could.

I agree with Bro Sammy. If you are talking about FLs from neighboring countries like Thailand and Vietnam, these girls are just plain lazy and wants to earn quick money. Opportunities are aplenty in these developing countries as well. Singapore is good but countries like Thailand is not really that far from us anymore. Average Thai OLs working in reputable MNCs are already drawing decent monthly salary of about SGD$2,000. Now is no longer the era where you hear about people starving and selling daughters in ASEAN. That happened only more than 30 years ago. :rolleyes:

[sammyboyfor]

I agree with Bro Sammy. If you are talking about FLs from neighboring countries like Thailand and Vietnam, these girls are just plain lazy and wants to earn quick money. Opportunities are aplenty in these developing countries as well. Singapore is good but countries like Thailand is not really that far from us anymore. Average Thai OLs working in reputable MNCs are already drawing decent monthly salary of about SGD$2,000. Now is no longer the era where you hear about people starving and selling daughters in ASEAN. That happened only more than 30 years ago. :rolleyes:

I've seen this game being played for a long time and come across the same sob stories played over and over again. :p

Parents very sick, father needs operation, brothers no money to go to school, house destroyed by hurricane etc etc.

However all these "dire straits" tales don't stop the hooker from splurging on the latest 4 figure fashion accessory.

[tambi8]

In our society I still think it us very difficult to accept wife who was a fl before. Therefore it is better to avoid thus scenario. But then there are so many FL and ex- FL here as we know, so how would potential husband know their history?

[maxsee]

If the FL marry a normal guy...chances of the guy knowing her past is virtually zero la...But if she manage to hook someone on the upper society...that is another story...There is this thing call PI that will be more than willing to dig out her past with the right amount....:D:D:D

[sammyboyfor]

In our society I still think it us very difficult to accept wife who was a fl before. Therefore it is better to avoid thus scenario. But then there are so many FL and ex- FL here as we know, so how would potential husband know their history?

Why would anyone want to marry a whore in the first place?

Why shit in a public toilet when you can shit at home? Public toilets are for emergencies only.:p

[zan888]

I agree with Bro Sammy. If you are talking about FLs from neighboring countries like Thailand and Vietnam, these girls are just plain lazy and wants to earn quick money. Opportunities are aplenty in these developing countries as well. Singapore is good but countries like Thailand is not really that far from us anymore. Average Thai OLs working in reputable MNCs are already drawing decent monthly salary of about SGD$2,000. Now is no longer the era where you hear about people starving and selling daughters in ASEAN. That happened only more than 30 years ago. :rolleyes:

Hookers aka dancers in western counties are mostly lazy too. I know one that work just Saturdays because she only wants to work one day a week and she earns in one day what most people earn working 2 weeks? Woman are by natured lazy creatures. In Sg some woman turn tricks as well and in SG really if you want LV, Hermes etc without that much efforts opening legs is an easy choice.

To say that the legal wl working here have it easy, hmmm I dont think it is easy sucking, licking getting banged 20+ men a day, 7 days a week, 12 hours a day only with 1 day off a month for menses. So for those that say its easy money, I say my office work trouble shooting, advisory, sending emails, talking on phone is 20X easier than what they have to do and I get paid a lot more. Granted I studied longer but I was given the opportunity to be qualified.

If my gf says she will reject a 1 million dollar a night deal to be banged, I would call her a lier, so its not WHO is a whore but just the price, and I would tell her to take the money via cashiers order, hand it to me for banking in and let her do the deed haha. Incidentally in the wild west, many so called service ladies became so rich, they own businesses and properties and they ended up to be "respectable" influential members of the elite and founded the wild west. http://sinlungtops.blogspot.sg/2010/09/why-prostitutes-in-wild-west-had-better.html

[korean]

Hookers aka dancers in western counties are mostly lazy too. I know one that work just Saturdays because she only wants to work one day a week and she earns in one day what most people earn working 2 weeks? Woman are by natured lazy creatures. In Sg some woman turn tricks as well and in SG really if you want LV, Hermes etc without that much efforts opening legs is an easy choice.

To say that the legal wl working here have it easy, hmmm I dont think it is easy sucking, licking getting banged 20+ men a day, 7 days a week, 12 hours a day only with 1 day off a month for menses. So for those that say its easy money, I say my office work trouble shooting, advisory, sending emails, talking on phone is 20X easier than what they have to do and I get paid a lot more. Granted I studied longer but I was given the opportunity to be qualified.

If my gf says she will reject a 1 million dollar a night deal to be banged, I would call her a lier, so its not WHO is a whore but just the price, and I would tell her to take the money via cashiers order, hand it to me for banking in and let her do the deed haha. Incidentally in the wild west, many so called service ladies became so rich, they own businesses and properties and they ended up to be "respectable" influential members of the elite and founded the wild west. http://sinlungtops.blogspot.sg/2010/09/why-prostitutes-in-wild-west-had-better.html

great to have view from another angle, really eye opener :D

[tambi8]

Why would anyone want to marry a whore in the first place?

Why shit in a public toilet when you can shit at home? Public toilets are for emergencies only.:p

Don't say like that la....some who'd married them may not know their past.
Seriously can you tell any difference between ex-FL and non FL( not virgin ones)? Some were in the trade for a short period to acquire stuffs,clear debts...blah blah blah....and return their normal job. Social escorts, wannabe models, actress....who pawn their bodies for opportunities, do you consider them FL?

[sammyboyfor]

Don't say like that la....some who married them may not know their wives' past.
Seriously can you tell any difference between ex-FL and non FL( not virgin ones)? Some of them may just be in the trade for a short period to acquire stuffs,clear debts...blah blah blah....and return their normal job. Social escorts, wannabe models, actress....who may have pawn their bodies for opportunities, do you consider them FL?

Once an FL always an FL.

[MIFAcafe]

If one do not know because the FL lie; it is understandable.
If you know she is FL and still marry her; you are the dumbest asre in the universe.

Once an FL always an FL.

[PRCktvbonker]

YIXUAN from CLUB MACAU is trying to cover up her whore history and marry fool here. Hope no bro fall into her trap

[Evra]

It is not easy, u have to accept her past and think of the future

[mms6969]

Once an FL always an FL.

Would agree with most of what Sam said on this subject, except the above.

Yes, I believe that almost all FLs choose this line because of the irresistible lure of easy/quick money, and most of these FLs do have a different set of values on sex and relationships than the social norm. However, not all WLs live a lavish life style. There are also some who are v thrifty and remit most of their income to their poor families. And yes, there is also a very small minority who quit the line and settle into a normal job or biz after they achieve their savings objective. In any case, there is an age barrier for this job, and no WL can always be an FL even if she wishes.

The million dollar question is what motivates a guy to marry a FL, assuming he knows her past history. Most men are unable to accept this due to pride and ego. However, there are exceptional FLs and exceptional loving husbands in this world. And I salute these exceptional people and wish them all the best.

[zan888]

Girls don't become whores because they're dirt poor. They do it because for those with no morals and no self respect, it's a quick and easy way to make lots of money.

If they sold their bodies out of poverty, they wouldn't spend a large portion of their earnings on fancy LV bags and other ostentatious items. They'd save every cent they could.

Would agree with most of what Sam said on this subject, except the above.

Yes, I believe that almost all FLs choose this line because of the irresistible lure of easy/quick money, and most of these FLs do have a different set of values on sex and relationships than the social norm. However, not all WLs live a lavish life style. There are also some who are v thrifty and remit most of their income to their poor families. And yes, there is also a very small minority who quit the line and settle into a normal job or biz after they achieve their savings objective. In any case, there is an age barrier for this job, and no WL can always be an FL even if she wishes.

The million dollar question is what motivates a guy to marry a FL, assuming he knows her past history. Most men are unable to accept this due to pride and ego. However, there are exceptional FLs and exceptional loving husbands in this world. And I salute these exceptional people and wish them all the best.

Yes agreed. Let those without sin cast the first stone. Are we so pure and sinless that we can judge or condemn someone or a whole class of people? Well maybe some of you are indeed pure as newly fallen snow but I am not one of them. Yes generally these types relationships are not easy and it is too challenging for many. Don't just be in any relationship just because the sex is good because one day the sex will be boring then do you have anything to fall back on?

[jng1103]

It's all about choice. If it leads to happiness and U are prepared for the possible outcomes, by all means go for it... There's no right or wrong here, only matters of heart. I ain't no saint, but I think if TC has found true love with the FL, which is highly possible, we should wish him 性福 :D

"别人笑我太疯癫，我笑他人看不穿" :)

[jtng]

maybe offer a different perspective. If your current partner found out about our cheonging past? Even now i also afraid to tell

[korean]

maybe offer a different perspective. If your current partner found out about our cheonging past? Even now i also afraid to tell

Precisely! I guess fl/wl got much higher chance to wash hand than cheongsters. I don't say past is not important, but it is the future matter most to me at least. Do u wish ur parents, wife, children forgive u, give u another chance n believe u won't cheong again if they find out u are or were a cheongster? If yes, do carry a heart to forgive other n give chance as well.

I guess u don't like ppl to tag u as 鸡虫，老嫖 forever yeah?

[zan888]

Precisely! I guess fl/wl got much higher chance to wash hand than cheongsters. I don't say past is not important, but it is the future matter most to me at least. Do u wish ur parents, wife, children forgive u, give u another chance n believe u won't cheong again if they find out u are or were a cheongster? If yes, do carry a heart to forgive other n give chance as well.

I guess u don't like ppl to tag u as 鸡虫，老嫖 forever yeah?

Once cheong can chop fingers and not cheong anymore? To take a break for months or years possible but to say never? I guess possible if say have a hot gf or gfs who drains you frequently? lol.

I guess life is unfair cos when men cheong, its kinda expected and normal but if a girl is on the other end of the stick, she is condemned as recalcitrant body peddler. Yet one cannot occur without the other.

As I dont expect my gf to be a virgin, if she sleeps indiscriminately, it worries me more than she is is fl, because fl works for a living whereas a slut may have some mental issues like nymphomaniac syndrome or merely likes variety? I guess these types are best suited to be FB rather than gf which people expect exclusivity. Then if there is exclusivity then guys dont consider it cheating when they cheong? That is the irony I suppose.

I do subscribe to the notion that as humans each of us deserve respect, no matter what we do for living. Just because you are a cleaner, wl, fl or tea lady, does that mean I can disrespect you, refuse to greet you or condemn you as worthless/the bottom of the barrel in humanity scale grade? Maybe many do that because often in Singapore, we are judged by what is perceived to be the cultural scale of respectability.

Yet even alleged murderers/rapist/bank robbers are entitled to a trial to prove their innocence or guilt, yet we are so quick to condemn or judge people by their profession without the benefit of natural justice.

[korean]

I totally agree with what u said :)

Once cheong can chop fingers and not cheong anymore? To take a break for months or years possible but to say never? I guess possible if say have a hot gf or gfs who drains you frequently? lol.

I guess life is unfair cos when men cheong, its kinda expected and normal but if a girl is on the other end of the stick, she is condemned as recalcitrant body peddler. Yet one cannot occur without the other.

As I dont expect my gf to be a virgin, if she sleeps indiscriminately, it worries me more than she is is fl, because fl works for a living whereas a slut may have some mental issues like nymphomaniac syndrome or merely likes variety? I guess these types are best suited to be FB rather than gf which people expect exclusivity. Then if there is exclusivity then guys dont consider it cheating when they cheong? That is the irony I suppose.

I do subscribe to the notion that as humans each of us deserve respect, no matter what we do for living. Just because you are a cleaner, wl, fl or tea lady, does that mean I can disrespect you, refuse to greet you or condemn you as worthless/the bottom of the barrel in humanity scale grade? Maybe many do that because often in Singapore, we are judged by what is perceived to be the cultural scale of respectability.

Yet even alleged murderers/rapist/bank robbers are entitled to a trial to prove their innocence or guilt, yet we are so quick to condemn or judge people by their profession without the benefit of natural justice.

[sammyboyfor]

Yes agreed. Let those without sin cast the first stone. Are we so pure and sinless that we can judge or condemn someone or a whole class of people? Well maybe some of you are indeed pure as newly fallen snow but I am not one of them. Yes generally these types relationships are not easy and it is too challenging for many. Don't just be in any relationship just because the sex is good because one day the sex will be boring then do you have anything to fall back on?

I'm neither judging nor condemning. FLs are what they are. They are professionals and many are good at what they do. In order to be good, you need certain character traits which I have mentioned.

[bengeo]

I really doubt anyone of us would marry one. FLs who managed to settle down will forever live in fear if ever their past will surface. As it is some ex-FLs especially the popular ones , their current photos are sometime posted in this forum with very discrete comment. Just how the partners will react reading them here.

[21MARTELL]

I am a past FL that married one of my client. And I must say if I had never met him I would have never ever gone out of this hole.

He use to be my regular and slowly we chatted and understand each other abit better, he was from a broken marriage I was from a broken relationships so we mended each other's broken heart.

I agree with a lot of bros here, I have seen a lot be it girls or client, practically all of the girls are materialistic including me. But this man of mine thaught me money can't solve everything and there are other better ways to earn money other then being an FL.

I am not saying all the girls would think like me, or I am thinking too highly of myself, what I am trying to say is there are still FL out there who just need a wake up call someone who truly truly adore them.

Then comes the question that people would say, oh must be because he is rich that why I am with him, no he is not rich but he works hard, that's 1 of the point I love about him.

The big plus is, he had a big heart that forgave my vices . Sometimes just sometimes we would still complain about each other whether he did go back find FL or I did go back to do FL, but of cause we both love each other so we would reassure each other.

Some bros would say, oh I would never ever marry and FL they are just a fuck and leave kind of girl, then let me ask u, would u want a girl who hides from u the fact that he blows for thousand of guys but she is not and FL just a very easy person? Or like a girl who always go clubs to in the end get a ONS? Or worst she was an FL before but she hides it from you and anyways u never booked her before?

I am not saying anything else other then giving my thoughts . :o

[korean]

Hi sis, nice to hear from lady perspective :)

I am a past FL that married one of my client. And I must say if I had never met him I would have never ever gone out of this hole.

He use to be my regular and slowly we chatted and understand each other abit better, he was from a broken marriage I was from a broken relationships so we mended each other's broken heart.

I agree with a lot of bros here, I have seen a lot be it girls or client, practically all of the girls are materialistic including me. But this man of mine thaught me money can't solve everything and there are other better ways to earn money other then being an FL.

I am not saying all the girls would think like me, or I am thinking too highly of myself, what I am trying to say is there are still FL out there who just need a wake up call someone who truly truly adore them.

Then comes the question that people would say, oh must be because he is rich that why I am with him, no he is not rich but he works hard, that's 1 of the point I love about him.

The big plus is, he had a big heart that forgave my vices . Sometimes just sometimes we would still complain about each other whether he did go back find FL or I did go back to do FL, but of cause we both love each other so we would reassure each other.

Some bros would say, oh I would never ever marry and FL they are just a fuck and leave kind of girl, then let me ask u, would u want a girl who hides from u the fact that he blows for thousand of guys but she is not and FL just a very easy person? Or like a girl who always go clubs to in the end get a ONS? Or worst she was an FL before but she hides it from you and anyways u never booked her before?

I am not saying anything else other then giving my thoughts . :o

[ric338]

hi i find this topic quite interesting keep it up

[ric338]

to marry a fl well not easy but can happen

[tambi8]

Best wishes to all who managed to settle down. I watched a replay of a Pretty Woman over at Mio Channel. Yes Vivien had a good ending at the end of the movie.

[Johnbass]

... But this man of mine thaught me money can't solve everything and there are other better ways to earn money other then being an FL...

UP you for good post!

All the FLs/SBs should listen to you...
Else just follow your past footsteps nia...

But then if no FLs/SBs...
All the men here die cok stand liao...
:D

[zan888]

I am a past FL that married one of my client. And I must say if I had never met him I would have never ever gone out of this hole.

He use to be my regular and slowly we chatted and understand each other abit better, he was from a broken marriage I was from a broken relationships so we mended each other's broken heart.

I agree with a lot of bros here, I have seen a lot be it girls or client, practically all of the girls are materialistic including me. But this man of mine thaught me money can't solve everything and there are other better ways to earn money other then being an FL.

I am not saying all the girls would think like me, or I am thinking too highly of myself, what I am trying to say is there are still FL out there who just need a wake up call someone who truly truly adore them.

Then comes the question that people would say, oh must be because he is rich that why I am with him, no he is not rich but he works hard, that's 1 of the point I love about him.

The big plus is, he had a big heart that forgave my vices . Sometimes just sometimes we would still complain about each other whether he did go back find FL or I did go back to do FL, but of cause we both love each other so we would reassure each other.

Some bros would say, oh I would never ever marry and FL they are just a fuck and leave kind of girl, then let me ask u, would u want a girl who hides from u the fact that he blows for thousand of guys but she is not and FL just a very easy person? Or like a girl who always go clubs to in the end get a ONS? Or worst she was an FL before but she hides it from you and anyways u never booked her before?

I am not saying anything else other then giving my thoughts . :o

This is the point which I am driving at. It is too simplistic to categorize every fl/wl as a condemned case, not worthy of relationship consideration. Its like saying all indian are sneaky or malays dont work hard or chinese are mercenary. Yes some are, but not everybody falls into stereotypes.

Of course as you say relationship is not easy but honestly speaking, it is easier for a FL to go straight than a john. How many johns can chop fingers/dick and pledge allegiance to one pussy? I believe that people do things for a reason, so some FL do it to get LV's Hermes, those are tough to turn around. If FL do the deed to pay for father's hospital bills, then respect from me( yeah we all heard sad tales before but a percentage are true despite our skepticism).

If I ever have a relationship with a FL/WL I will tell her, if you fuck for money( or love), its the end, but please dont expect me to chop my dick ok! haha. We are man la for goodness sake. So how can we condemn fl/wl when we are not any better?

[MoJoe313]

Imagine people on the street giving you or your son the dirty wink, and saying Hey, I have been in and out of your mommy/wife several times. Ho keng wor.

[korean]

Imagine people on the street giving you or your son the dirty wink, and saying Hey, I have been in and out of your mommy/wife several times. Ho keng wor.

Hmm....I feel sorry for the guy saying that to bring his status lower,even an innocent kid also bully.

Imagine ur wife ex or ons partner also doing same thing to u.

[MoJoe313]

Bro, you are not making a fair comparison. How many ex can one have, compared to the number of men a FL entertains?

Besides, an ex is someone you loved and tried, unsuccessfully to bring the relationship further. There is a material difference.

[4getful]

Inorder not to have all these thing happen, best is to try out all type of sex with the gfs or FL. Then get a virgin wife to marry. If cannot find one that is virgin n is your type, then continue knowing more gfs. but if know her past n accepted she no more pure n willing to marry her, then learn to see no evil hear no evil. Don't the mouth say do not mind but the heart breaks. :rolleyes:

[korean]

Bro, you are not making a fair comparison. How many ex can one have, compared to the number of men a FL entertains?

Besides, an ex is someone you loved and tried, unsuccessfully to bring the relationship further. There is a material difference.

Bumping into a men bedding her before is purely luck, regardless the number of her sex partners. Anyway most if not all men will not ack in that manner, be it ons, ex or customer.

[21MARTELL]

Imagine people on the street giving you or your son the dirty wink, and saying Hey, I have been in and out of your mommy/wife several times. Ho keng wor.

Yes I agree with Korean that any guy with the right mind would not do the above you have mention. If he really dose that to my son or husband, I am gona give him one tight slap and a kick in the dick be it public or not, and if he raise to police awareness I am gona just say he publicly harass me and see whether the police would belive me or the guy ;)

[MoJoe313]

This is why one should never offend a woman. You win. *bow* LoL.

[zan888]

Imagine people on the street giving you or your son the dirty wink, and saying Hey, I have been in and out of your mommy/wife several times. Ho keng wor.

I ever bumped into my current ex b4 and thankfully he is does not say things like this otherwise it would be ugly.

How would you like it if when you and your mom are together and your mom ex, tell you same thing? Not nice thing to say yeah? So if you want respect, then you have to give respect as well.

Honestly this way of thinking is archaic and mcp, Is your dick any "cleaner"cos cheong 1000 fl/wl before? Yeah we expect our gf/wife to be virgins but we still wish to cheong wl/fl yeah?

[4getful]

I think some does not mind their partner bang by other men before but ironically i think adultery is the thing that breakdown most of the marriage. I think there is no different in the before and after, it is all in the mind. If one does not mind about her past, then why would one create a big hooha about he or she fuck ofhers after marriage n then end the marriage, it probably love faded after marriage n it is an excuse to pinpoint who at fault n faster end the marriage. If adultery is bad, then y would one not mind about the past. It might show that couples r/s are like instant noodle nowadays where one would think i also not your only men, why should i be serious to you.:rolleyes:

[korean]

I ever bumped into my current ex b4 and thankfully he is does not say things like this otherwise it would be ugly.

How would you like it if when you and your mom are together and your mom ex, tell you same thing? Not nice thing to say yeah? So if you want respect, then you have to give respect as well.

Honestly this way of thinking is archaic and mcp, Is your dick any "cleaner"cos cheong 1000 fl/wl before? Yeah we expect our gf/wife to be virgins but we still wish to cheong wl/fl yeah?

The odds is way too low for this case if compared to get caught cheonging, does that stop us from steal eat?

This should not be the main concern if to marry a fl or not. Fall back to the main reasons why u wanna marry her in the first place, in regardless she is a normal person, fl, criminal, etc.

[zan888]

The odds is way too low for this case if compared to get caught cheonging, does that stop us from steal eat?

This should not be the main concern if to marry a fl or not. Fall back to the main reasons why u wanna marry her in the first place, in regardless she is a normal person, fl, criminal, etc.

Marriage is foolishness albeit to a woman, ladyboy, wl, fl or princess. We man mostly dont wish to get married cos we KNOW it s a losing proposition, but invariably we fall into this trap again and again. The small head rules our lives apparently.

[Johnbass]

Man who visit FL and get married (to FL or other charbors) will most likely continue visiting FLs, right?
Unless charbors expect the Man to change after marriage?
:cool:

[a2014]

In the current modern society, do you think a normal modern lady will not have a some sort of a undisclosed relationship with another be it married or single.

In the past YES, once you are married you are married, if you go looking for someone you are a whore. In this modern society if she don't I guess others in their circle will say they are old fashion.

Apparently there are also many Bros coming here complaining their wife go looking up others and feel uneasy and unhappy, but their wife are not fl or wl just a normal next door girl.

The only difference is the role a normal girl and an fl/wl plays in the society. This is the only area that stands out if you view through a pair of colored lenses.

Anyway man is man "anything you touch before I don't want".

There is only one thing I can say, if you don't mind, go ahead as when love and feeling kicks in there is nothing I can say. However if it doesn't hold water and the reservior goes dry across years do not complain.

The above is only my personal point of view.

[21MARTELL]

It's all about give and take. U finding fl and ur gf/wife is a past FL.

[zan888]

In the current modern society, do you think a normal modern lady will not have a some sort of a undisclosed relationship with another be it married or single.

In the past YES, once you are married you are married, if you go looking for someone you are a whore. In this modern society if she don't I guess others in their circle will say they are old fashion.

Apparently there are also many Bros coming here complaining their wife go looking up others and feel uneasy and unhappy, but their wife are not fl or wl just a normal next door girl.

The only difference is the role a normal girl and an fl/wl plays in the society. This is the only area that stands out if you view through a pair of colored lenses.



Exactly! Just because someone married normal lady, means squat! Oh the thought of their lady fucking someone else is impossible yeah? Its just as impossible for the married ladies to imagine their "honest"innocent married husband put his only used once for 1 pussy dick into not only another lady but maybe hundreds of ladies b4.

Maybe the illusion of having someone exclusive is just so strong that the thought of infidelity is unbearable. Let me say I have known enough married ladies to know, that they are 95% susceptible to temptation. If you catch a married lady in throes of unhappy moment with her hubby, she might just give in to get release or revenge. Lets all not lie to ourselves that our partners are St Mary of the Angels. Unless you married a true blue certified flaming lesbian, she may be susceptible to temptation infidelity and its a fact that many children are fathered by people who are not the husbands.

Yeah its a shocker? Woman cheat too! It is not like in the past when woman stayed at home to raise children, they work, go out, socialise and invariably meet attractive and attentive men. As a man ask you, once you are married does your desire for all other woman disappear? Its the same for woman, Oh initially there is the honeymoon period but once the reality of marriage sets in, you think their desire for all other man disappear? Even religious woman who goes church or temple regularly can cheat! It all whether they wipe their mouth clean of semen or dare to admit it thats all! SO please dont tell me crap about marrying a certain type of virgin etc. Women are just like men nowadays!

[4getful]

There are many good women around in search for real love, sexy yet no men explore their body before. These are the real wife material. I believe old custom when they wanted their son to get a pure n virgin bride have their own reason. Sometimes i keep hearing some women proudly saying how many bfs they had, how experience they are in bed, i felt nausea, i just pity their hubby. Everytime i heard others marriage breakdown by adultery, i always curious if they have had slept with other men or women b4 their marriage n y want to create a big hooha, like it is devastating n hurt deeply? Unless one is pure n untouchable b4 their marriage, then i can unserstand. If not, signing that piece of paper doesn't magically makes one become pure n virgin again. If one start the r/s with sex, it can mean it will end the r/s with sex. Men no matter what, are still men. Unless they only want a partner n children. There is always a saying the 'ghost' will one day come back haunt you. A long lasting marriage is when both husband n wife, their eyes and ears are shut.

[skypower_88]

Just to share my point of view.

To marry FL/WL, one will face alot of pressure in real life.

1) you are scare one day you friends tell you...oh, this gal services good.
2) you wife naked photo circulate round you friends.
1 &2 will not be a issue if you wife FL /WL in other country and nobody know. But still, worst is your friend go chong oversea and so lucky is one of the gal you married.
3) The girl you married you will have doubt if she really love you or your money? Unless you are very handsome else, what you think? Remember, these girl f morenguys than you eat rice. Money, you think they will.choose a poor guys when money is so important to them?
4) you sure they married you not because of long term pass?
5) real life story on the paper. How many guys being cheated.
6) Another way is imagine you see you friend wife and happen is a FL yiu book before. What is your impression.

So many negative impression, then why still got ppl married FL? Well service good, treat you like king, darling here darling there. Why? Because you pay.

Anaway, there are some special different FL out there. Just like ppl buy toto. We know very well difficult to strike but still, those who buy always hope they are the special and lucky one.

[ric338]

very interesting bro

[Xyberduke]

I had a colleague who indeed married a FL.

I'm not part of the brotherhood and simply relate what was told to me... and have never been to Dongguan.

We had visits to Dongguan and he always get the same girl after the 3rd visit and would tell us how good she was on bed and the styles that she used, her body, etc. while she was sitting around us and she didn't feel shy about it and would even come hanky panky with us.. grab our hands to her boobs etc... and once even came into my room while I was with my FL just wrap in towel to shower with the door wide open (because my colleague was bombing the toilet) and came out naked and watched TV with us, we were naked too.. almost started a tarma after some hanky panky, dirty talks and even agreed on a price jokingly when my colleague called my room to go for supper as he was hungry after bombing....

This went on every visit to Dongguan, same ktv, same girl for him. My other colleagues and I had different girls all the time but all knew this girl and got along well.. Lots of hanky panky and dirty talks.. movies, tours to neighbouring cities, etc... together...

Suddenly, this colleague went Dongguan himself for a few visits, and next thing you know, we received his invitation card... It was an embarrassing moment at the wedding as after so many gatherings, it's like all of us have already touched her inside out and saw her naked on a few occasions, less sexual intercourse. And there we were attending her wedding but sworn to keep the secret among the brotherhood.

So. Personally, after hearing this, I looked at his wife differently on the initial occasions. Obviously, my dear friend did not keep the secret at the wedding. But after a while, all got used to it. She was no longer like before, and simply talkative and playful, but no body contact. She continue to dress revealingly but well, that's for guys to enjoy anyway... We now treat her as any colleagues' wife.

So. Marrying a ex-FL... why not? But make sure there is love...

[WeiWeiKeKe]

Need extraordinary courage to marry a FL WL, and even more incredible courage to marry divorcee FL WL with child one.

[tambi8]

So is it better not to know and never ask about her past?
What u don't know don't hurt
one ex FL friend tries very hard to conceal her past
she is all 'clean-up' , well groom, great looking, decent sales job
wish her well

[Dgoo]

Brossss.

I sincerly needed some advice. I was suppose to marry a Ex FL here. We've been together for awhile and I had flew over to China to meet her parents and I have also applied for her stay here in Singapore 3 mths ago to see my parents etc.

The condition for her to fly here 3 mths ago is provided I gave the parents the 聘金first before they allow her to come over. We were suppose to be married 3 mths ago but I postponed the signing of papers to after 2015 Chinese New Year as I believed timing would be better and easier when I apply for a LTVP.

A month ago we had a quarrel and I am being blocked from all forms of contacts. I personally flew down to china to try to contact her but she just won't pick up the call even though I bought a local sim. Her friends are in cahoots and told me they couldn't locate her but I can see comments from their wechat moments responding to her.

I am stuck now coz it's been a month. Her reluctance to have any contact with me and the money that I have transferred. Am I being scammed?

If yes, what can I do to recover the money? I have all history of conversations and money transfers records.

Really need advise especially Bros who have successfully retrieve their money back from such scenarios.

[sammyboyfor]

I am stuck now coz it's been a month. Her reluctance to have any contact with me and the money that I have transferred. Am I being scammed?

If yes, what can I do to recover the money? I have all history of conversations and money transfers records.

Really need advise especially Bros who have successfully retrieve their money back from such scenarios.

You have been scammed big time. You should have read my sticky threads before getting involved in any whore. Whores are for fucking not marrying.

As for your money I can tell you with 110% confidence that you can kiss all your $$$$ goodbye for good. Write the sum off as a training fee for a course that teaches you to be a lot smarter in your future relationships.

It should be blatantly obvious to you by now that the so called "quarrel" was all part of the game plan to con you big time. If you still can't see that, there is nothing further for me to add. :rolleyes:

[porscheclub]

Count your lucky stars that you didn't marry her!

[sammyboyfor]

I'm honestly at my wits end. I have spent the last 7 to 8 years of my life in this forum trying to prevent these sorts of things from happening.

I've repeated the mantra "whores are for fucking not loving" over and over again. I even sent PMs to members I thought were not getting the message but it was usually to no avail.

Never... i repeat NEVER get involved with a WHORE. Their sole aim in life is to accumulate wealth at your expense. That's why they became whores in the first place instead of social workers or nurses or street vendors.

They start off charging you per session. Then when they spot any weakness, they'll go in for the kill with a carefully laid out game plan that involves taking you for a wild ride while extracting the maximum they can.

When they have achieved their goal, they'll spit you out and discard you like used toilet paper.

[porscheclub]

Boss, as you can see. There are still threads from dreamers of divorcing wives to be with their ex-FL/WL. Human heart is compassionate but we're too gullible for the world, especially Singaporeans.

There is also another side of the coin which I've seen. Men cheating women & often starting with online social dating sites.....some married them only to be immediately beaten while others were kidnapped for ransom but most were emptied of their savings and the worse were those who drugged the women & forced into sleeping with his brudders in crime or took out loans to support the men.

So our brother above is very lucky to just lose some money. Imagine if he married her & she starts abusing the parents then wrecks havoc in his family. Life will indeed be very miserable which is finally slapped by Women's Charter & a nail on your coffin if you have an HDB with her.

[damong777]

Brossss.

I sincerly needed some advice. I was suppose to marry a Ex FL here. We've been together for awhile and I had flew over to China to meet her parents and I have also applied for her stay here in Singapore 3 mths ago to see my parents etc.

The condition for her to fly here 3 mths ago is provided I gave the parents the 聘金first before they allow her to come over. We were suppose to be married 3 mths ago but I postponed the signing of papers to after 2015 Chinese New Year as I believed timing would be better and easier when I apply for a LTVP.

A month ago we had a quarrel and I am being blocked from all forms of contacts. I personally flew down to china to try to contact her but she just won't pick up the call even though I bought a local sim. Her friends are in cahoots and told me they couldn't locate her but I can see comments from their wechat moments responding to her.

I am stuck now coz it's been a month. Her reluctance to have any contact with me and the money that I have transferred. Am I being scammed?

If yes, what can I do to recover the money? I have all history of conversations and money transfers records.

Really need advise especially Bros who have successfully retrieve their money back from such scenarios.

She is obviously avoiding you already. Chances of u getting back together money is near zero. Hopefully is not the big a sum

[sammyboyfor]

She is obviously avoiding you already. Chances of u getting back together money is near zero. Hopefully is not the big a sum

It's not near zero. It's WAY BEYOND zero.:rolleyes:

[korean]

sorry to hear that bro, take it as lesson learn. do u know where she or parent stay? r u possible to locate her parents or her?

Brossss.

I sincerly needed some advice. I was suppose to marry a Ex FL here. We've been together for awhile and I had flew over to China to meet her parents and I have also applied for her stay here in Singapore 3 mths ago to see my parents etc.

The condition for her to fly here 3 mths ago is provided I gave the parents the 聘金first before they allow her to come over. We were suppose to be married 3 mths ago but I postponed the signing of papers to after 2015 Chinese New Year as I believed timing would be better and easier when I apply for a LTVP.

A month ago we had a quarrel and I am being blocked from all forms of contacts. I personally flew down to china to try to contact her but she just won't pick up the call even though I bought a local sim. Her friends are in cahoots and told me they couldn't locate her but I can see comments from their wechat moments responding to her.

I am stuck now coz it's been a month. Her reluctance to have any contact with me and the money that I have transferred. Am I being scammed?

If yes, what can I do to recover the money? I have all history of conversations and money transfers records.

Really need advise especially Bros who have successfully retrieve their money back from such scenarios.

[sammyboyfor]

sorry to hear that bro, take it as lesson learn. do u know where she or parent stay? r u possible to locate her parents or her?

He probably didn't meet her real parents. Those were just stand ins. :D

What sort of whore brings a client home??!!!! :eek:

[korean]

He probably didn't meet her real parents. Those were just stand ins. :D

What sort of whore brings a client home??!!!! :eek:

Yes I heard such case too bring the guy to see the fake parents. However there are real cases too, so I just give TS the benefit of doubt ;) He is asking for help but so far no one proposed him any solutions yet. Sad to see this community full of cruel ppl :(

[sammyboyfor]

Yes I heard such case too bring the guy to see the fake parents. However there are real cases too, so I just give TS the benefit of doubt ;) He is asking for help but so far no one proposed him any solutions yet. Sad to see this community full of cruel ppl :(

We aren't being cruel we're being blunt but realistic.

He does not have a hope in hell in getting his money back and the sooner he accepts this fact, the sooner he can start his life afresh.

His only hope is if this whore has a sudden change of heart and actually feels sorry for him but this possibility is so remote it might as well be totally discounted.

Businesses write off bad debts when chances of collection are virtually non existent. He should do the same thing.

There is no legal recourse whatsoever especially in China. The police aren't going to do anything. A civil case will cost him more than he is owed and he'd get nowhere too. She could just claim the money was a gift.

If this happened in the US, he might be able to get help from Judge Judy. :D

[korean]

yes boss u got the points. that y i didn't propose to him to log a police report as we dunno how much money he'd given to her. suppose if he can contact her real parents probably can stil try a little bit. let see if TS still need our advices or will MIA for good :)

We aren't being cruel we're being blunt but realistic.

He does not have a hope in hell in getting his money back and the sooner he accepts this fact, the sooner he can start his life afresh.

His only hope is if this whore has a sudden change of heart and actually feels sorry for him but this possibility is so remote it might as well be totally discounted.

Businesses write off bad debts when chances of collection are virtually non existent. He should do the same thing.

There is no legal recourse whatsoever especially in China. The police aren't going to do anything. A civil case will cost him more than he is owed and he'd get nowhere too. She could just claim the money was a gift.

If this happened in the US, he might be able to get help from Judge Judy. :D

[bengeo]

I was told by my classmate another classmate is going to marry a china lady 30+from Shenzhen in Singapore some this month. I think this stupid classmate of ours is gonna be screwed big time too. Her family or her condition was to purchase an apartment( S$ 700k thereabout) as matrimonial home there in her name. This carrot head was too happy to comply, boast to us how well he was treated and lady is highly sex. Already in 58 and shorty too he still think lady in love with him. Sad that many of our local guy still so naive once kena free sex.

[Dgoo]

That's very sad to hear as I've got people telling me I can seek legal recourse for the money or part of the money.

If it's really a scam, then she's easily won the best actress of the year. All
The tears while we quarrel, the messages, the actions etc..

I even met up with her and her bro a month back in Beijing. her bro even came to pass me some "messages" from their mom saying I must own my house prior to her marrying me in March 2015. I even negotiated that to buy a house needs time and would they accept a rented place till I got my own house.

They agreed and she even ask me to bring back a large suitcase containing all her summer clothes to be worn here, shoes, facial products and a lot of china medicine/pills to be consume here.Supply that could easily last a year or more.

It's just too real for me to doubt any of what's going on. I am aware of the mantra Fuck and forget but I gave it a shot trusting a FL would one day want to settle down with a nice guy who wouldn't mind her past.

How the fuck could I have missed it!
Right now im contemplating if I should spend anymore efforts to try to hunt her down.

[loneyheart]

will u like to expose who yr ex fl to warn bros here ??

[Dgoo]

will u like to expose who yr ex fl to warn bros here ??

Bro.

She was here to do massage initially and provided FJ briefly but she was so sore from it and I basically rescued her from this vice back then by "baoing" her. She's quite well known for her good massage skills back in May.

[sammyboyfor]

Bro.

She was here to do massage initially and provided FJ briefly but she was so sore from it and I basically rescued her from this vice back then by "baoing" her. She's quite well known for her good massage skills back in May.

The only ones who can "rescue" whores are the whores themselves. Nobody else can do it for them.

[porscheclub]

How the fuck could I have missed it!
Right now im contemplating if I should spend anymore efforts to try to hunt her down.

She'll return when she runs out of money or what you gave her wasn't enough so watch out.

Sorry that your fairytale came to a crushing end. I've been there before but wasn't as sour & survived stronger than ever. So will you.

Legal recourse? Do you have any IOU bearing her true ID & counter signed by witnesses similar to contracts? Otherwise, whatever money that you've given or sent are your willing "gifts" that has NO recourse. Even if you have a contract, you need file a report in China's district police station & file court proceedings there, all which will mount to greater spending. Your best bet is to find local thugs & dig her out.

Someone from overseas once cheated me US$50K in business, six months and the police won't do anything so I hired gangsters & within one week they brought the person kneeling before me. The fee is 20% of the outstanding bill & the bastard simply cried like a dying dog. In the end, I let him off but still paid the fee.

So, sometimes you need to let go of a bad investment.

[MoJoe313]

Someone from overseas once cheated me US$50K in business, six months and the police won't do anything so I hired gangsters & within one week they brought the person kneeling before me. The fee is 20% of the outstanding bill & the bastard simply cried like a dying dog. In the end, I let him off but still paid the fee.


Kneeling? As in really kneeling and crying? Wow.

[MoJoe313]

That's very sad to hear as I've got people telling me I can seek legal recourse for the money or part of the money.

If it's really a scam, then she's easily won the best actress of the year. All
The tears while we quarrel, the messages, the actions etc..

I even met up with her and her bro a month back in Beijing. her bro even came to pass me some "messages" from their mom saying I must own my house prior to her marrying me in March 2015. I even negotiated that to buy a house needs time and would they accept a rented place till I got my own house.

They agreed and she even ask me to bring back a large suitcase containing all her summer clothes to be worn here, shoes, facial products and a lot of china medicine/pills to be consume here.Supply that could easily last a year or more.

It's just too real for me to doubt any of what's going on. I am aware of the mantra Fuck and forget but I gave it a shot trusting a FL would one day want to settle down with a nice guy who wouldn't mind her past.

How the fuck could I have missed it!
Right now im contemplating if I should spend anymore efforts to try to hunt her down.

If you can squeeze money out of a chinese national, I salute you. If you can squeeze money out of a chinese national whore, I will do the kneeling!

[MoJoe313]

Brossss.

I sincerly needed some advice. I was suppose to marry a Ex FL here. We've been together for awhile and I had flew over to China to meet her parents and I have also applied for her stay here in Singapore 3 mths ago to see my parents etc.

The condition for her to fly here 3 mths ago is provided I gave the parents the 聘金first before they allow her to come over. We were suppose to be married 3 mths ago but I postponed the signing of papers to after 2015 Chinese New Year as I believed timing would be better and easier when I apply for a LTVP.

A month ago we had a quarrel and I am being blocked from all forms of contacts. I personally flew down to china to try to contact her but she just won't pick up the call even though I bought a local sim. Her friends are in cahoots and told me they couldn't locate her but I can see comments from their wechat moments responding to her.

I am stuck now coz it's been a month. Her reluctance to have any contact with me and the money that I have transferred. Am I being scammed?

If yes, what can I do to recover the money? I have all history of conversations and money transfers records.

Really need advise especially Bros who have successfully retrieve their money back from such scenarios.

Scammed big time. Parents engineered, 聘金 engineered, quarrel and then break up after money is received engineered. You can go find her in china. Success rate is 1 to 1.3 billion. Else wait for her to come back to sg for her next prey. Better odds at 1 to 5.3 million.

[city slicker]

That's very sad to hear as I've got people telling me I can seek legal recourse for the money or part of the money.

If it's really a scam, then she's easily won the best actress of the year. All
The tears while we quarrel, the messages, the actions etc..

Bro, sorry to hear about your plight. Its painful to lose money to scammers but its far worse to lose your heart to a cheat. One can write off monetary loss and move on, but the heart pain will take much longer to recover. Take care; things could have been worse if you married.

[conquer]

Bro.

She was here to do massage initially and provided FJ briefly but she was so sore from it and I basically rescued her from this vice back then by "baoing" her. She's quite well known for her good massage skills back in May.

Rescuing whore... Sounds like some sort of humanitarian effort. :confused::confused::confused:

[linrx]

Rescuing whore... Sounds like some sort of humanitarian effort. :confused::confused::confused:

Hehe, Buddhism has a Surangama Sutra that spoke of the Buddha's personal attendant and cousin Ananda visiting a whorehouse - he was literally seeking alms of either food and other supplies, then amongst one of the seven houses he was visiting he bumped into a whore who's mamasan led the monk into a whorehouse and almost raped the monk.

Rescuing whores are troublesome and tedious endeavours, sure it still offers many meaning in perhaps varied senses, after awhile upon realising that guys are the ones discussing about this the idea was "what if Singaporean women are pondering about marrying their male gigolos who are foreigners especially“. Wow I rather another meaningless book at times even though it harped on and on about a monk crying because he was trying hard to abstain from cumming.

The monk Ananda wanted to cum, he was single after all, the whore needed Ananda to cum, she was a whore after all, if Ananda came in the whore, India was that big just so is Asia, just get married and bring up a couple of kids within the Himalayan mountains then, there's enough land to farm and enough cows and goats to offer daily milk and food supplies or even companionship. By now, just as the Buddha's only son or even His legacy empire 2500 years ago is already gone, so too if Ananda and the whore did have kids, they would have been gone too by now, probably a newer generation at best.

;D Imagine, if the Buddha allowed His attendant and cousin Ananda back then screwing the whore He may have had a newer nephew or a niece.

So, instead of letting Ananda screw a whore then keep quiet or even have kids, He wanted to keep Ananda in his job as a begging monk while His own son Rahula became a monk too, then the whore apparently became a nun too, it's just a religious somewhat historical tale, on the context of marrying sex workers again, again generically speaking if human beings and animals don't have sex i.e. males don't ejaculate and females don't complete their other duties of procreation, where will kids come from?

What on earth is in a FL or a whore or a gigolo, when was the last time we went to the Singapore Zoo then labelling the chimpanzee as a gigolo or the giraffe as a whore?

The future kids of gigolos and whores will forever be fucking - you, or more like we, need them to forever be fucking - the challenge is when the kids forgot about fucking.

Sure, stop them from fucking anyway, like what the Buddha asked of Ananda and his whore.

[Dgoo]

Appreciate all the kind advices from the bros to let me move on asap.

Aren't there any happy ending at all for such cases here?

The only grapping point that's been bothering me is that I had given the 聘金back n Sep last year but she still came over to Spore to marry me in October. I held back the signing of papers just to allow us more time to make sure we thought through this properly.

If she's really a scammer, she don't have to come over since the money is with her right?

[linrx]

Why would a man marry a FL? :confused:
Women in this trade will have many reason for finding the right man but their principles and thought process are different.

Your Excellence,

Let's start with myself.

When I was first going through puberty in secondary school my male classmates came up with the nickname of either 'erector' or 'wanker' for me; many years down the road, many who came up with the labels turned out very ordinary. Those who were honorific or virtuous enough, they became either the civil servant, or those that liked travelling are in the usual SME/MNCs, where the girls of my cohorts are concerned, who married who over the past decade has became actually very trivial.

After awhile on my end being just keen on next generations doing right or well enough, the system gets kept in place too because like it or otherwise, when kids study hard enough, or work hard enough, seeing them as scholars or officers perhaps promoting till succeeding through the merit status quos, that offers the ordinary of ordinary some meaning.

Old people i.e. the older the oldest, they really can just die.

:) When we eat, we poop; when we drink, we pee; when we breathe, we fart; when we get some sunshine, we make all else from babies till hay..

When men and women do not get paid or even not eat, drink, breathe, or fart, they still may make all under the sun from babies till hay, there's no why no need to know why much lesser understand why.

If you stop them from making babies they make hay, if they get stopped from making hay they make babies, that's all, if your papa dies and the world lets you make less hay, you'll end up with more babies.

[korean]

Appreciate all the kind advices from the bros to let me move on asap.

Aren't there any happy ending at all for such cases here?

The only grapping point that's been bothering me is that I had given the 聘金back n Sep last year but she still came over to Spore to marry me in October. I held back the signing of papers just to allow us more time to make sure we thought through this properly.

If she's really a scammer, she don't have to come over since the money is with her right?

There is definitely happy ending for such case, just rare I guess.

Actually I'm quite curious is it a norm to give 聘金 a month before ROM? If she's a scammer, she may marry u and divorce later to aim for ur house and monthly allowance. If so, u may count youself to be not so bad luck.

Just to be alarmed next time if anything related to money in such relationship. Take care bro!

[sammyboyfor]

Appreciate all the kind advices from the bros to let me move on asap.

Aren't there any happy ending at all for such cases here?

The only grapping point that's been bothering me is that I had given the 聘金back n Sep last year but she still came over to Spore to marry me in October. I held back the signing of papers just to allow us more time to make sure we thought through this properly.

If she's really a scammer, she don't have to come over since the money is with her right?

There are many happy endings. Yours is one of them. You have managed to escape relatively unscathed.

Many end up in worse shit. Their whole lives are torn to threads.

I too am surprised she did not take her scheme to the next level so she could extort more. Perhaps she has found a bigger catch and has decided that it is more worth her time and effort to concentrate on working on her next victim.

[hamsapkwai]

Your Excellence,

Let's start with myself.

When I was first going through puberty in secondary school my male classmates came up with the nickname of either 'erector' or 'wanker' for me; many years down the road, many who came up with the labels turned out very ordinary. Those who were honorific or virtuous enough, they became either the civil servant, or those that liked travelling are in the usual SME/MNCs, where the girls of my cohorts are concerned, who married who over the past decade has became actually very trivial.

After awhile on my end being just keen on next generations doing right or well enough, the system gets kept in place too because like it or otherwise, when kids study hard enough, or work hard enough, seeing them as scholars or officers perhaps promoting till succeeding through the merit status quos, that offers the ordinary of ordinary some meaning.

Old people i.e. the older the oldest, they really can just die.

:) When we eat, we poop; when we drink, we pee; when we breathe, we fart; when we get some sunshine, we make all else from babies till hay..

When men and women do not get paid or even not eat, drink, breathe, or fart, they still may make all under the sun from babies till hay, there's no why no need to know why much lesser understand why.

If you stop them from making babies they make hay, if they get stopped from making hay they make babies, that's all, if your papa dies and the world lets you make less hay, you'll end up with more babies.

brother u ever consider running for public office? u talk like our Govt Ministers :p

[hamsapkwai]

There are many happy endings. Yours is one of them. You have managed to escape relatively unscathed.

Many end up in worse shit. Their whole lives are torn to threads.

I too am surprised she did not take her scheme to the next level so she could extort more. Perhaps she has found a bigger catch and has decided that it is more worth her time and effort to concentrate on working on her next victim.

actually in all these relationships there is always ONE person happy :p

[MoJoe313]

brother u ever considered running for public office? u talk like our Govt Ministers :p

That bro don't qualify. Our govt ministers talk more cock. :p

[cmelater]

That bro don't qualify. Our govt ministers talk more cock. :p

That bro mus use phrases like "honest mistake. Lets move on.", "we didnt know.", "its once in fifty years." it is a pre requisite to be one of the miw.

[cmelater]

actually in all these relationships there is always ONE person happy :p

Often at the expense of the other.

[Dgoo]

Anyone knows how to CSI a photo and find the source of the original photo?

[sammyboyfor]

Anyone knows how to CSI a photo and find the source of the original photo?

Easy. Use google image search.

[Dgoo]

Easy. Use google image search.

Thanks Boss.

Just got the message from her friend that her entire house is burnt down and that includes my money in it. With pictures some more.Geez....

Paging Bro porscheclub. I've drop you a PM. Please reply when you can.

[MoJoe313]

Thanks Boss.

Just got the message from her friend that her entire house is burnt down and that includes my money in it. With pictures some more.Geez....

Paging Bro porscheclub. I've drop you a PM. Please reply when you can.

LoL. Seriously, house burnt down??!

Bro, do you want to consider a suggestion? Lure her back.

Somehow send a message via her friend that you are heart broken and have lots of new found money to blow (like your parents give you for marriage). Better still, offer your wealth to her friend to make her jealous.

She will be back for more.....

[korean]

Thanks Boss.

Just got the message from her friend that her entire house is burnt down and that includes my money in it. With pictures some more.Geez....

Paging Bro porscheclub. I've drop you a PM. Please reply when you can.

Bro, u mentioned u got the records of transferring the money to her (some sort ebanking I suppose). How can the money be burned? And house burn she still can contact u personally why need to reach u via her frenz. Take care bro!

[porscheclub]

Anyone knows how to CSI a photo and find the source of the original photo?

You have a soft copy of it? Digital photos usually embed a host of IDs in it provided it's not heavily photoshopped. Sometimes, it even contain GPS coordinates but you need a good photo, preferably non-edited & send to a professional photographer.

[porscheclub]

Kneeling? As in really kneeling and crying? Wow.

Yes. In fact twice, the second time being a woman.

I have a habit of trusting people too much. You'll be surprised how humans can act/react at times of need & they can even kow-tow to you.

Rescuing whore... Sounds like some sort of humanitarian effort. :confused::confused::confused:

Oh well, we all like to be a shining white knight saving the damsel :p

Thanks Boss.

Just got the message from her friend that her entire house is burnt down and that includes my money in it. With pictures some more.Geez....

Paging Bro porscheclub. I've drop you a PM. Please reply when you can.

Replied. Honestly, just leave it. This route will cost you more trouble & money especially when you don't have a local friend. We don't know how much you lost but as a man sometimes you must learn to let it go.

Looks like her friend is part of the game, they always are so just press that Delete button & forget everything about her.

Tell everyone that she had an accident & died so you won't need to waste effort explaining anymore.

[porscheclub]

Bro, u mentioned u got the records of transferring the money to her (some sort ebanking I suppose). How can the money be burned? And house burn she still can contact u personally why need to reach u via her frenz. Take care bro!

That's a cooked up story for a 10yrs old & our bro's situation here is a perfect warning to you bro Korean. Stop dreaming about having a fairy tale with that ex-WL of yours.

Any form of sending money overseas has records but she didn't put a gun on his head to send it, did she? Police & will just laugh at you & lawyers will be happy to earn some money making you chase the goose.

As mentioned. It's his blessing that he didn't marry her as his loss has been cut short. In Hokkien we say "Heng ah" in Chinese 破财消灾

[korean]

I have a habit of trusting people too much. You'll be surprised how humans can act/react at times of need & they can even kow-tow to you.


no wonder...in fact I'm opposite to u, which I dont easily trust anyone including myself n parents. So I rarely got cheated if any. To gain my trust, I got to trust him/her more than myself

[korean]

That's a cooked up story for a 10yrs old & our bro's situation here is a perfect warning to you bro Korean. Stop dreaming about having a fairy tale with that ex-WL of yours.

Any form of sending money overseas has records but she didn't put a gun on his head to send it, did she? Police & will just laugh at you & lawyers will be happy to earn some money making you chase the goose.

As mentioned. It's his blessing that he didn't marry her as his loss has been cut short. In Hokkien we say "Heng ah" in Chinese 破财消灾

The point is I really wonder what our bro is thinking or asking here as the stories got too much obvious loopholes.

I'm not dreaming,to repeat once again. Probably u never meet a nice lady especially in this field, that why u don't believe such a person exist. I think only those who met such a genuine lady will understand what I mean. Cheers.

[porscheclub]

The point is I really wonder what our bro is thinking or asking here as the stories got too much obvious loopholes.

I'm not dreaming,to repeat once again. Probably u never meet a nice lady especially in this field, that why u don't believe such a person exist. I think only those who met such a genuine lady will understand what I mean. Cheers.

My dear bro, I speak with personal intimate experience & even spent time in a brothel living with prostitutes in my younger days. Dining together with them like a big family after their hard day's work & ate their home cooked dishes.

Bao KTV girls & having mistresses, giving them money to buy cars, set up businesses & even bought an apartment for one (which I made money :D)

Like some of you. I've went overseas to meet my would be in-laws not just in China but Taipei, KL & Hong Kong. Some were wealthy & some were poor but thank goodness, no drama or Golden Rooster award from the hosts.

But some brought heart pain & injury. I even found myself waking up once in the hospital because of love, a jealous woman can bring hate we never want to know. I don't even know how much money has been wasted on women & booze thus far but money can be made again as long as you're alive & well.

I've been through much my friend. Doing my part now in SBF & helping samsters not to step in my shoes.

[MoJoe313]

money can be made again as long as you're alive & well.


By this, I know you have attained wisdom.

[korean]

My dear bro, I speak with personal intimate experience & even spent time in a brothel living with prostitutes in my younger days. Dining together with them like a big family after their hard day's work & ate their home cooked dishes.

Bao KTV girls & having mistresses, giving them money to buy cars, set up businesses & even bought an apartment for one (which I made money :D)

Like some of you. I've went overseas to meet my would be in-laws not just in China but Taipei, KL & Hong Kong. Some were wealthy & some were poor but thank goodness, no drama or Golden Rooster award from the hosts.

But some brought heart pain & injury. I even found myself waking up once in the hospital because of love, a jealous woman can bring hate we never want to know. I don't even know how much money has been wasted on women & booze thus far but money can be made again as long as you're alive & well.

I've been through much my friend. Doing my part now in SBF & helping samsters not to step in my shoes.

I know where r u coming from, bro. Really thankful for giving advices and sharing ur experiences in this community as there are ppls who really need such advices and let the third parties to help them see a clearer picture.

For my case, I know what am I doing, and I know who a person she is. I am perfectly fine to listen to any 忠言逆耳 advices (e.g. should not divorce my wife, should not let lover bear my baby, etc), as some of the advices is valid. But if my case is always being related to robert scenario, it actually diverts the real concerns I would like to deep dive.

[MoJoe313]

That's a cooked up story for a 10yrs old & our bro's situation here is a perfect warning to you bro Korean. Stop dreaming about having a fairy tale with that ex-WL of yours.


I was puzzled by this part so I read the bro-mance between you 2. Love the part when porscheclub went KNN cannot tahan you bro korean and he was compelled to write again.... hahaha!

Btw, I agree, almost pitch perfect, with everything porscheclub wrote.

[loneyheart]

My dear bro, I speak with personal intimate experience & even spent time in a brothel living with prostitutes in my younger days. Dining together with them like a big family after their hard day's work & ate their home cooked dishes.

Bao KTV girls & having mistresses, giving them money to buy cars, set up businesses & even bought an apartment for one (which I made money :D)

Like some of you. I've went overseas to meet my would be in-laws not just in China but Taipei, KL & Hong Kong. Some were wealthy & some were poor but thank goodness, no drama or Golden Rooster award from the hosts.

But some brought heart pain & injury. I even found myself waking up once in the hospital because of love, a jealous woman can bring hate we never want to know. I don't even know how much money has been wasted on women & booze thus far but money can be made again as long as you're alive & well.

I've been through much my friend. Doing my part now in SBF & helping samsters not to step in my shoes.

bro u walk a long way n learned t hard way ... thxs for sharing bro

[sammyboyfor]

Thanks Boss.

Just got the message from her friend that her entire house is burnt down and that includes my money in it. With pictures some more.Geez....

Paging Bro porscheclub. I've drop you a PM. Please reply when you can.

You gave her COLD HARD CASH? :eek:

[Dgoo]

You gave her COLD HARD CASH? :eek:

Nope. Bank transfer. Quite obvious her friend is lying here Lo.

[a2014]

For my case, I know what am I doing, and I know who a person she is. I am perfectly fine to listen to any 忠言逆耳 advices (e.g. should not divorce my wife, should not let lover bear my baby, etc), as some of the advices is valid. But if my case is always being related to robert scenario, it actually diverts the real concerns I would like to deep dive.
What bro porscheclub speaking is through his past many many years of experience, that was what he have encountered at that time till now. Many years, many encounters, which may be something valuable for all of us.

Bro Korean's yours may be different however just do take care, remember in your post about having babies with a WL, I ask you something "How long you knew this person". You did answer me and I said "then that made sense". Maybe by the time many many years later you have a good case to describe.

By the way side step a little, how is your gf now, working in China ? Since she cannot come again, hard for you.

Take Care.:)

[porscheclub]

By this, I know you have attained wisdom.

bro u walk a long way n learned t hard way ... thxs for sharing bro

What bro porscheclub speaking is through his past many many years of experience, that was what he have encountered at that time till now. Many years, many encounters, which may be something valuable for all of us.


Thank you fellow bros, not here to earn brownie points & I'm sharing and learning among you all here everyday as everyone has a story or two for us to listen. l was once lost & some of you helped me back so as the saying goes, whatever doesn't kill you, makes you stronger is very true.


For my case, I know what am I doing, and I know who a person she is. I am perfectly fine to listen to any 忠言逆耳 advices (e.g. should not divorce my wife, should not let lover bear my baby, etc), as some of the advices is valid. But if my case is always being related to robert scenario, it actually diverts the real concerns I would like to deep dive.

When a person is madly in love, he or she is blind & deaf which happens to everyone. It takes a friend to be an enemy to point it out for you. So track carefully.

[Dgoo]

You have a soft copy of it? Digital photos usually embed a host of IDs in it provided it's not heavily photoshopped. Sometimes, it even contain GPS coordinates but you need a good photo, preferably non-edited & send to a professional photographer.

I have a copy of it through the wechat message that her friend sent but I am not sure if the meta data are still there to make sense of anything at all.

I feel like a educated Chinatown uncle now.Damn it.

[curious76]

I have a copy of it through the wechat message that her friend sent but I am not sure if the meta data are still there to make sense of anything at all.

I feel like a educated Chinatown uncle now.Damn it.
why make yourself so troublesome?? Go to china and see for yourself.. Few hundred dollars not willingly to spend.. Keep on checking digital.. What for??

[Dgoo]

why make yourself so troublesome?? Go to china and see for yourself.. Few hundred dollars not willingly to spend.. Keep on checking digital.. What for??

Check what? If I know where is the exact location she stay.i would be in a better shape now. Her exact location is what I am currently investigating. I was there for a week in Jan roaming around the unknown.black/white also tried.

Just got hold of this photo so I thought I can make use of the little information my hands can get to make sense of nothing at all

[curious76]

Check what? If I know where is the exact location she stay.i would be in a better shape now. Her exact location is what I am currently investigating. I was there for a week in Jan roaming around the unknown.black/white also tried.

Just got hold of this photo so I thought I can make use of the little information my hands can get to make sense of nothing at all

so do not bother.. Tell whoever send you the message send the location as well.. Since they asking for money.. Fly over to china and check yourself..

[a2014]

When a person is madly in love, he or she is blind & deaf which happens to everyone. It takes a friend to be an enemy to point it out for you. So track carefully.
Actually Bro Korean was not wrong either, until today I still have got no answer to this. I only belief that as age catches up our thought get mature and we think differently, so do the other party. Time will tell. Never get the young one as you will never live till then to see them change or not.

I am still observing, so long as you know what you are doing and what is happening, make sure you stand on the right spot. Never rule our decision by our emotion.

[korean]

When a person is madly in love, he or she is blind & deaf which happens to everyone. It takes a friend to be an enemy to point it out for you. So track carefully.

After break off with my first love, I'm actually very sensible towards love till date, in fact I would say it was too sensible that I avoided all the opportunities of getting in love and affairs (even with my first love I love the most before I met my 2nd)...until I met my 2nd love. If I'm really blind n deaf, I would not waste my time here to seek helps n heck care my wife is dead or not.

[korean]

What bro porscheclub speaking is through his past many many years of experience, that was what he have encountered at that time till now. Many years, many encounters, which may be something valuable for all of us.

Bro Korean's yours may be different however just do take care, remember in your post about having babies with a WL, I ask you something "How long you knew this person". You did answer me and I said "then that made sense". Maybe by the time many many years later you have a good case to describe.

By the way side step a little, how is your gf now, working in China ? Since she cannot come again, hard for you.

Take Care.:)

when time is right and I'm in the right mood I will tell more story in my own thread as there is alot new development recently, since u r curious to know. As it is impossble for me to describe completely/clearly, and given none of u know me n her well, it is easy for most ppl to jump into conclusion again. But I must say u got the patient to be a good listener and do the thinking/analysis (like what i usually do). Really thx bro :)

[patric12]

how is things going, TS.
What is your current feeling now. still want to marry a WL?

[Dgoo]

how is things going, TS.
What is your current feeling now. still want to marry a WL?

What can I do now right? Feeling like shit that I fail in my observational skills big time!

[patric12]

so you will not think marrying her lah. that is good.
they are fake. I was hurt too. good luck.

[Dgoo]

so you will not think marrying her lah. that is good.
they are fake. I was hurt too. good luck.

My thoughts are eventually I think they will still want to settle down with someone. I thought I could be the one but you can never know what they are really thinking at times.

I came out of a divorce and thought I'd find someone who would just settle down for a simple life and they can kiss their current "job" goodbye.

Guess It's just whether are you the chosen one? Apparently I'm not. I've gambled and fail.

[sammyboyfor]

My thoughts are eventually I think they will still want to settle down with someone.

If these girls were the "settling down" sort, they wouldn't have become whores in the first place.

[Dgoo]

If these girls were the "settling down" sort, they wouldn't have become whores in the first place.

It's just strange isn't it. This is not the 1st FL I've fallen in love with. Though I have not spend anything on them previously. The only ONE I thought I was right and this had to happen.

Singaporeans males are husband materials but I realise a lot of these FLs has boyfriends back in their country and these "boyfriends" supported them to work so they can live off them.Best part is that the gals are totally willing.

Recalled one of the bf tried to threaten and kill me after his FL gf came to live with me. We are anytime better than these scums. The rare occasion when one of us samsters actually wants to settle down with them, they opt to do this? I have to say I fail miserably is understanding them.

[sammyboyfor]

It's just strange isn't it. This is not the 1st FL I've fallen in love with. Though I have not spend anything on them previously. The only ONE I thought I was right and this had to happen.

Why do you want to "settle down" with any whore for goodness sake.

If you want a long term relationship, a whorehouse is not the place to meet chicks. You should do social or volunteer work and you'll then meet decent girls who are loving and caring.

They may not give good blow jobs and great fucks but they'll be far better wives and mothers to your children.

[porscheclub]

Why do you want to "settle down" with any whore for goodness sake.

If you want a long term relationship, a whorehouse is not the place to meet chicks. You should do social or volunteer work and you'll then meet decent girls who are loving and caring.

They may not give good blow jobs and great fucks but they'll be far better wives and mothers to your children.

+1

Please think about your offsprings for goodness sake. We "marry up" so that our descendents will have a better gene & future. Even nature mates for survival from plants to animals & fishes.

And we have choices so choose wisely.

[Dgoo]

Thanks Bros.
I know and have come to terms with regards to all these shit. It's their loss my gain.

[cmelater]

Thanks Bros.
I know and have come to terms with regards to all these shit. It's their loss my gain.
Wine and womEn bring about the downfall of great men and nations. More powerful than all of the nuclear arsenal in this modern world.

After God created Earth, He rested. After God made man, He rested. Right after God made woman, He thought.... "man is finished".

But, man need not be at the mercy of the woman. Just be sure of what you want and dont look back. All relationships have a beginning and an end. For us, it is learning how to come to terms with the end.

[FLcuckoldBF]

I am wondering are there any bros here who is married to an FL and she is still doing the trade? ;) How it feels?

[WeiWeiKeKe]

Qi Qi (VIP) hubby is one of them, maybe can share

[FLcuckoldBF]

Qi Qi (VIP) hubby is one of them, maybe can share

Haha this one sounds like a KTV girl. Imagine waiting for the wife to come home every late night; her boobs smeared with men's saliva and sweat from all the boobs sucking and grabbing, pussy filled with all the lubricant left from used condoms and mouth tasted like cum from all the cim. :D shiok!