Gers Are Still Gers

[Five Stone]

Originally Posted by suteerak1099

they say when men treat the lady nice is when they did something wrong, think again, it should be the other way round.

Sometimes the female gender cannot seems to comprehend our need for affection as well, there will be time that we want to be extremely romantic, exceptionally caring, unusually loving but then this is just us.

[suteerak1099]

Originally Posted by Five Stone

Sometimes the female gender cannot seems to comprehend our need for affection as well, there will be time that we want to be extremely romantic, exceptionally caring, unusually loving but then this is just us.

to them, when men are being nice to them or being a little more generous in spending power for them.. we're up to no good. sad to say, we're a species that do not need justifications for our actions (but rationale often makes sense) - men do things as we please

as for them, they too have the right to be nice n sweet. however, with punt intended most of the time (coveting some jewellery that her friend received from her bf/hubby, wanting the bf/hubby to shower her with some big spending at the up-coming mega sale, wanting the bf/hubby to bring her on a round the globe holiday). what's the sense in it...? to please her cravings at our expense - women want us to do things to please them

besides, if at such early stage expect to be touring the world... by the time get married, literally have to fly via NASA go to the moon for honeymoon liao. either that, there's already no place left to visit in the long run.

[suteerak1099]

it is said, and believed to be that women are supposed to be more mentally matured, more family orientated, and far-sighted in most aspects of life.

sad to say, these days... its the direct opposite. career woman wanting their girl power - woman's rights (thanks to the womans charter), equal/higher achiever than the man, yet expecting the man to fill very big shoes - adopting the role as the bread-winner (incl all necessary chores/duties in the domestic matters).

its no wonder SG men are higher demand these days - able to work, settle family errands, tutor the children, take care of the folks... most importantly possess a valid class 3 licence. fulfill all the Cs; career, cash, condo, car, credit card, caring, concern, considerate, confidant..etc. bonus: if he's an all-rounder & fantastic in bed.

modern woman = nightmare.. they're fast mutating into very selfish monsters that engulf any who fit that bill.

[sir cum-a-lot]

Originally Posted by suteerak1099

it is said, and believed to be that women are supposed to be more mentally matured, more family orientated, and far-sighted in most aspects of life.

sad to say, these days... its the direct opposite. career woman wanting their girl power - woman's rights (thanks to the womans charter), equal/higher achiever than the man, yet expecting the man to fill very big shoes - adopting the role as the bread-winner (incl all necessary chores/duties in the domestic matters).

Bobian mah. Nowsadays, its all for oneself and no one else. Its all down to: Basic Instinct-Survival Instinct.

Although I must agree with you, most girls these days very 1 kind lah...

Originally Posted by suteerak1099

fulfill all the Cs; career, cash, condo, car, credit card, caring, concern, considerate, confidant..etc. bonus: if he's an all-rounder & fantastic in bed.

HAHA! High demand indeed!

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by suteerak1099

its no wonder SG men are higher demand these days - able to work, settle family errands, tutor the children, take care of the folks... most importantly possess a valid class 3 licence. fulfill all the Cs; career, cash, condo, car, credit card, caring, concern, considerate, confidant..etc. bonus: if he's an all-rounder & fantastic in bed.

modern woman = nightmare.. they're fast mutating into very selfish monsters that engulf any who fit that bill.

Maybe u just ask urself this simple question.

If you are a girl, will u choose a man who is
-unable to work, cock up all issues, run away when children need help in homework, unfillial child, throw old folks onto the streets, do not possess any single licence, NO Career, NO Cash, NO Condo, NO Car, No CC, Uncaring, UnConcerned, InConsiderate, Don't understand feelings? Worst is fucked up on the bed and dislike sex.

If u yourself do not have any requirements, U would have now been married to any plain jane on the streets now instead of criticising the girls in these way.

SC

[newbadass]

Originally Posted by siamcutey

Maybe u just ask urself this simple question.

If you are a girl, will u choose a man who is............
If u yourself do not have any requirements, U would have now been married to any plain jane on the streets now instead of criticising the girls in these way.

Not that your arguments are without merit...
...but the purpose of this thread is to KPKB about local girls, right?

[Five Stone]

Originally Posted by newbadass

Not that your arguments are without merit...
...but the purpose of this thread is to KPKB about local girls, right?

Point noted and concurred. This is just an avenue for us to release our displeasure, take a deep breath and go back to the real world.

[vesfreq]

Originally Posted by Five Stone

Point noted and concurred. This is just an avenue for us to release our displeasure, take a deep breath and go back to the real world.

Brings to mind that some girls are just not meant for us. ie, simply high achievers, even we work another one lifetime, still can't catch up with them.

I wanted to date 2 ladies earlier in the week. One uni freshie in the finance industry, while the other is also a uni freshie but a medical grad earning big time.

I know where I stand. The med grad actually agreed to go out with me on a date, but after thinking about her tastes and preferences. No way man .... rather go for speed dating and get some numbers and girls to go out with.

The ST article some months back compared women with cars. Both have parallels. ie, if u have the money, u go for a prettier and more attractive girl. Or, of course, go for the otherwise, where budget is a relevant factor.

Women are just like cars. Either u bought urself a good car or a crappy one, which u have to tahan for a long long while.

I don't mind a plain jane, who is down to earth. Because wherever you are working, you want to know that back at home there is girl at home waiting for you to go home for dinner. But, these days the girls don't give me this kind of assurance.

Even the guai guai mei mei in office is damn havok one. Backside expose a bit can see dragons and other mythical creatures. I was like wtf.... very ah lian.

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by newbadass

Not that your arguments are without merit...
...but the purpose of this thread is to KPKB about local girls, right?

This thread has evolved into a thread where SG girls has been deemed as 'mercenaries'.

Everyone have expectations. Some has high ones, some has low ones.

Just that some girls who has higher expectations and happens that we men do not fit into their expectations, doesn't mean that we have to slam them. To put it simply, we just 'do not have the weight' to bring ourselves up the level they expected of us.

If their expectations are high, if we can, we fit in.
If we can't fit into their expectations, we just don't fit into their plans.

Some of the people here talk as though that the SG girls owe them something.
C'mon, to put it in simpler layman terms, if you are good enough, u choose them. U will need these girls to fit into your expectations and not saying that these girl's expectations are too high.

Why can't just admit that we ourselves is cannot make it?

If we can say that SG gers have high expectations, expect these and that, just go and get a girl with lower expectations whereby we can click with them.
Why don't choose a girl with lower expectations? Is it because the girl doesn't fit into our own's expectations instead? or is it we ourselves have high expectations?

Many a times, we just chose the easy way out to just simply blame some others for our failures.

We point our finger at them but unknowingly we have 3 more fingers pointing back at ourselves.

When we say SG gers cannot make it. Buey Kan. Why don't we ask ourselves, how good we are? How Eh Kan are we then.

If you are good, others will say u are good. We don't need to say others are bad to prove that we are good. Which is what this thread is sadly heading towards.

I am not standing on the side of men or on the side of the women. But just stating my POV and my stand.

SC

[Criminalz]

Geesh man...last time i commented on this subject was in 30.6.2004 and now we are still on this subject.

gers really that terrible?

[Almond]

Hmmm.. Was browsing thru the pages when I saw this heading. Kinda curious so took a peek and before I knew it, I had read 13 pages and the sun had risen.

As I had only read 13 pages, I'll just comment on my own POV from the posts that brothers like OceanEleven and some others have posted (from the 1st 13 pages and the posts on the last page).

All I can say is that your gfs/ wives are really shen zai fu zhong bu zhi fu.

But of cos, after fast forwarding to the last page (eyes really buey tahan liao, have not slept), and having read Bro SiamCutey's post, I really do admire him for being fair to the fairer sex too.

That said, I can only say that a relationship is built on trust, understanding, tolerance and many other attributes. Sometimes, one or a few of these attributes might be lacking but that does not condemn the relation if TOLERANCE is strong.

Whatever it is, there has got to be something in your respective partners that drew you to them. So why let that special attraction be clouded by her petty faults?

Basically, like what the Superstar judge always say, " Bi Duan Yang Chang" - Cover the flaws and magnify the plus (Roughly that lar... my chinese fail de.. hahah)

[Five Stone]

Most of us here lamenting about the women in Singapore, yes indeed we are but then at some point in time in our life we are in contact with at least one woman. And we are commenting base on this woman. We are not deeming nor labeling all of them in the same particular way, it is just base on the actual facts we’ve seen or experience. Hence these may be some coincidence that the few here share the same point of view.

Though we may be bellowing about the female gender here but still some of us are romancing some gals at the same time. We deem some unreasonable, incomprehensible, uncompromising but we still try and learn to coexist with them.

They have their traits, we have our behaviors as well, I believe there are sufficient sisters in here to stage censure against our words or perhaps they are reading all these with a grin and a pinch of salt. End of days, the fathers, husbands, boyfriends who leave their mark here, went back to their love ones and continue life.

[Deep Blue]

Originally Posted by Criminalz

gers really that terrible?

Girls are not that terrible, it is basically a mixture of many emotions. There are many with various experiences that when compile together will put any encyclopedia to shame. Put it this way, perhaps this thread is just where some who are once hurt and grieve from past ventures who find solemn peace by pouring out their discontentment. Like a heavy baggage, they leave it here and move on.

[suteerak1099]

Originally Posted by siamcutey

If u yourself do not have any requirements, U would have now been married to any plain jane on the streets now instead of criticising the girls in these way.

SC

LOL, everyone has their right to have criterias/requirments/specs for their future spouse. its afterall, a life-long decision (sad to say, many these days taking divorce papers like tissue paper).

the stats also shown that its becoming a trend (in alarming rates), that the women are the ones that change after putting the pen to paper. whereas the men have been steadfast.

their financial stability gives them liberty to enjoy the pleasures they indulge in(not entirely wrong), and very much the cause that eventually leads to their infidelity.

its not as if their incompetence in the domestic duties are bad enough, but doesnt give them excuse not to learn or improve in their shortcomings. hiring a maid to lighten the chores, doesnt excuse 1 from lifting a finger or the right to only assert "eye power".

in many cases, the men are the 1 that bend over, make the compromise & improve on their own short-comings, whilest the avg (and fast growing) populace of the sg woman... aspires to live the legacy of a 太太

it seems they forgot that there's no fruits if there's no labor. and in their dictionary... man=labor, woman=slumber (very soon will become timber), at the end... the man suffer

how? why? when avg joe meets plain jane, life was bliss. but jane eventually wants avg joe to morph into joe millionaire, so she can be 太太, joe may or may not achieve (but requires time to do so), jane cant wait.. she moves on.

tsk tsk tsk. so much for the "I...take you... for my husband/wife......for richer for poorer, in sickness and in health.. till death do us part.. " its funny, they recite it like its a song... and then the song stales... the love pales..

[suteerak1099]

Originally Posted by vesfreq

Brings to mind that some girls are just not meant for us. ie, simply high achievers, even we work another one lifetime, still can't catch up with them.

well, expectations & desire for better life, who wouldnt understand??? 人往上爬，水往下流 (its something that gives everyone the driving force and its afterall good), and very much so, being the typical out n out singaporean, we've also been instilled with the notion of: 人不为己天诛地灭

but these days, it seems the girls have left out a big chunk of that long painful process, and so constitues theír mentality & aspirations of: 一步登天

they dwell so much on korean drama these days, they sob at the soap opera 大长今... end up learn nothing (tears drop for fun)... the lead role didnt just appear in the imperial court as a somebody. she went thru the long painful process to morph from chicken to phoenix.

in retrospect, even in the 80's there was the jap drama series of Oshin. the lady who toiled half her life away for a better future, not for herself but for her descendents... there was a re-run some yrs back too.. again, our sg-girls, tears drop for fun. learn nothing