Stephen Leather's Private Dancer

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by GiddlyGook

The problem here is long-term security. How sure is she you will be there tomorrow? Like you say, she has no assurances - you cannot or will not give her that (for whatever reasons). So can you blame her for getting some "insurance"? She goes back to what she knows best - the entertainment industry - because it is the only job that will give her 30k (which is quite enough if you ask me but then, I don't don't know her financial needs). She is right, a mamasan does not need to sleep with customers.

If you want her body and soul and never to be in a "service industry" again - marry her. Otherwise, she is right.

What you said is absolutely correct.

hahaha
SC

[tirak69]

Originally Posted by sammyguy

brother magicafe,

take it as a game. she plays, you play. when both party wanna play, the game is on. else just stop for a while la.

just look for another game player la. go cheong again and you see many more gals out there.

Cheong = gaming. don't take it too seriously.

its easy to say or if you are looking from 3rd party point of view. not so easy if u are party to it. who starts out to find love with WL... when play the same WL too often emotions creep in and then thats where problem starts... we are humans after all. only way to prevent is unless u NEVER rtf.

my 2 satangs worth...

[magicafe]

hmmm.....bro SC, salute you for the wonderful advise and comments. sometimes it is difficult to change their lifestyle and lead the life of an ordinary gal. should blame myself of my stupidity but without regret. infact money is not a major issue but 2 years of courtship to understand her motives b4 i walk a step further to prevent further damages. by the way, with the budget i gave her can taste 5-6 model category gals at poisedon every month plus tips. 555. i,m looking forward to have an opportunity to " pai tiaw duaykan" Mai lu
mi o kard cher kan u tee Krungtep mai krup.

[liketoplay]

Originally Posted by magicafe

I suppose she's playing mind's game. from my viewpoint, 30k is not enough to support her expenses such as giving her mum's allowances and helping out sis and bro.as a result, what is left is enough for her daily expenses and no savings. bshit like age is catching up and i offer her no assurance that will support her forever and so on. she cliamed that it is perfect normal to work as a mamasan since there is no obligation to have sex with customers. trust her if i love her. 555. so, kind of sly to me.

30K is not enough for her and I bet even 60K will not be enough. 'm sure during yr 2 yrs together , besides the monhtly allowance , there are occasions when you'll send her lump sum to pay for watever she or her family owes....At the end of it , if you think logically you'll be wondering where all your money goes to.

[delifrance]

Hi

a turtle will very likely to be 99% a turtle. It's hard to get out of the "beautiful night life" of "entertaining clients". You got a wrong bird, just face it as you have done for the past 6 days, accept it and move on.

that's the danger of entering into a relationship with a turtle or part-time turtle or a little turtle or a flying turtle or a flying turtle that looks and behaves like a true eagle......

I have personally gone to the point of asking turtles this: why do you have to entertain men for a living? The converse is thought-provoking as I would ask the "cheongsters" or "samsters" in this forum - do you want to entertain women for a living? (hiaks, all kinds of women, not just the pretty and nice ones).

think about it.....and you can take short cuts after paying for the first lesson.

cheers.

[sammyguy]

Originally Posted by tirak69

its easy to say or if you are looking from 3rd party point of view. not so easy if u are party to it. who starts out to find love with WL... when play the same WL too often emotions creep in and then thats where problem starts... we are humans after all. only way to prevent is unless u NEVER rtf.

That's why brothers should hang out together and cheong together. remind one another there's more roses out there and don't just stick to one.

Remember the old chinese adage - "brothers are like arms and legs, womena are like clothes"

I even have brother friends who go back to bonk the same transsexual whores, and after a while, they fell in love and get into messy relationships...
Why...? If u keep playing the same game, it becomes real.

Brothers, help remind one another that it's just a game...

[MrDevil]

Originally Posted by siamcutey

Cheongsters go cheong, will fall in love with girls inevitably. I am sure you do at some point of time.
Girls work in Flesh Trade to earn money and inevitably, they also fall in love with customer. Though they don't want it.

Very hard to explain cos eventually if it happens it happens. The only way we can say is to open eyes big big, and put your hands together and pray for the best.

hahaha
SC

Murphy law, if it will happen, it will. Yes, good one comes and goes but the key is to know when to let go. Most are sufferring deeper for not letting go when they should. There is always another good one coming for you to fall in, anyway. This is part and parcel of cheonging. If I would cheong without emotional or feeling, I would rather save that money. Money is worth spent in exchange for happiness and sweet memory, not to have more headache, sour and bitterness.

Main reason is with normal girls we r not able to have sex with them immediately and those conservative ones will leave u hanging there. Whereas with WLs our mind will programme to tell us from the endorphin rush that what we r doing is good and tells us mentally that we must seek all means to secure this 'high' feeling.

Ask yourself this question, if the WL u presume u 'love' after becomes 'steady' becomes like any other normal girl as in u need lots of efforts to get 'poor' sex now instead. Will u still love her or find another? Cause she 'ton' overnight likely to age also faster there comes the problem of health concerns later due to her work in the past. Not to forget majority thais' one 'happy family' waiting for your measely okay let us assume 2-3k(quite good?) not bad but u divide u and her will be 1k for u only, with 1 kid become 700 liao, another one become 500 liao, not to calculate her family, didi and mei mei's plus relatives living all on u.

Voice down to money. Other things can solve no problem but no money than sure game over. Same with normal girl.

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by Wudishijimode

Main reason is with normal girls we r not able to have sex with them immediately and those conservative ones will leave u hanging there. Whereas with WLs our mind will programme to tell us from the endorphin rush that what we r doing is good and tells us mentally that we must seek all means to secure this 'high' feeling.

Ask yourself this question, if the WL u presume u 'love' after becomes 'steady' becomes like any other normal girl as in u need lots of efforts to get 'poor' sex now instead. Will u still love her or find another? Cause she 'ton' overnight likely to age also faster there comes the problem of health concerns later due to her work in the past. Not to forget majority thais' one 'happy family' waiting for your measely okay let us assume 2-3k(quite good?) not bad but u divide u and her will be 1k for u only, with 1 kid become 700 liao, another one become 500 liao, not to calculate her family, didi and mei mei's plus relatives living all on u.

Voice down to money. Other things can solve no problem but no money than sure game over. Same with normal girl.

Work harder, earn more so that you can maintain the lifestyle.

SC

[tirak69]

Originally Posted by delifrance

Hi

I have personally gone to the point of asking turtles this: why do you have to entertain men for a living? The converse is thought-provoking as I would ask the "cheongsters" or "samsters" in this forum - do you want to entertain women for a living? (hiaks, all kinds of women, not just the pretty and nice ones).

think about it.....and you can take short cuts after paying for the first lesson.

cheers.

i find no point asking cos the answer all quite standard. she is the one with the most potential to make the most $$ for the family. so she is the "chosen one". more often than not they are supporting the parents (can be both or one) and likely the other brothers and sisters... seniority does not matter cos it always the one with the most $$ making potential.

so why ask? since we already know what they will say. it will also be followed by she helping until they can se self sufficient. trust me that day normally does not come and she will end 4ever. BKK no jobs then go macau, taiwan or SG lor. sad but true...

[OceanEleven]

I think it's pretty easy to comprehend after one really spend some time in Thailand to understand and experience the scence there. Many of us might be wondering why so many bros plunge head first into all the KCs or GTs thingy, the main reason is that we found that what we've been missing can all be found there, namely the feel good factor. It is in the blood of the WLs there to behave that way, something so natural that it is in their brought up (After your money is a later issue) and part of their life. It is here in S'pore that we are holding a double edge sword where our loved ones can be the one that hurt us the most.

[collin_23]

Bro oceaneleven,

U Huang ping yuan's fan? keke..

'Zui ai ni de ren shi wo...ni ze mer sher de wo nan guo...
Zai wo zui xu yao ni de shi hou...ni bu suo yi ju hua jiu zo...'

Well said. Nowadays can't blame cause sg girls more and more highly educated. Eyes starting grow on top of head already. Not all but got lor. A new baby is always come along with a maid, no maid than can almost forget it.

Standards include 5Cs etc. The straits time just commented that the local ladies cause lose out to china girls, than vietnam and now kalimantan and cambodia etc so kpkb. That the same with outsourcing the problem with US..keke..divert abit.

If sex is readily available for all than there will no more business for the WLs. Unfortuantely it will always be there. Than comes the night in shining armour syndrome.

This is commercial sex. Even if going raw with u means nothing. Condoms break many times cause the WLs if dry than likely to break. U r puting yourself at risk only. Bros take note.

[OceanEleven]

Originally Posted by collin_23

Bro oceaneleven,
Well said. Nowadays can't blame cause sg girls more and more highly educated. Eyes starting grow on top of head already. Not all but got lor. A new baby is always come along with a maid, no maid than can almost forget it.

Bro, nothing to do with raw but the recent trip to Bkk (see in my thread: Gers are still Gers) had left me a heavy heart to question about the road ahead. Luckily Bkk not just across the straits, if not, there might be just another "Man in Dilemma".

[OceanEleven]

Originally Posted by yomun

Looks like I may have one more kaki perhaps?
Different folks have different standards in drawing the line of fantasy or reality.

It is more like a thin line between reality and dream perhaps. Listening to their stories wont put one at ease, true or spun, not too important, one thing for sure, they are WLs. Be it for the families or being materialistic, they are there earning their living.

[khunchin]

Originally Posted by magicafe

I suppose she's playing mind's game..... she cliamed that it is perfect normal to work as a mamasan since there is no obligation to have sex with customers. trust her if i love her. 555. so, kind of sly to me.

Magicafe, if she is going back to work in the same place you take her out, than ther is no hope... for money she will go back to where she started and the excuses you will get..... no lah, darling, this old friend customer... just go out supper only lah, oh today friend birthday party will be going home late etc etc.... than your head will go wild thinking what she is up to.
Best is to just walk away and don't think of the past, just think of the good time you had enjoy like a lovely vacation you had taken and become a beutiful memories left behind. Save you to toture yourself.

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