How To Get And Keep Attractive Gals Of Your Type

[MoralEpitome]

Wow....thanks to all the brudders for their insightful advice... whether suan or not.... i think the bottom line is don't fall in love with these prc girls...ultimately their aim is to make as much money in as short a time as possible... this is perfectly reasonable...imagine if you were to uproot yourself in a foreign land to make a living...would survival not be at the top of your mind?...even when she said she loves me....she still ask me how come i never hang her $5000 when I obviously have the money...although I admit I do not have as deep pockets as some of the esteem brudders here...i also do not think that it is a value proposition to spend it on her...unless she willing to give herself totally to me... I also think that this $5000 is better spent on some investments that can give me 10% return compounded over time....as warren buffet told his wife....the new sofa you want to buy can buy you 10 in 10 years time...but everyone has different perception of money....maybe to some $5000 is loose change but for me it's still hard earned money....

the other issue is i had enough of transactional sex...this is why I toyed with feelings to get a different high....sure i can get some of these chio prc ktv mm outs for sex...just pay them $150 to $300....but it's a different feeling when there seem to be some true feelings involved....but for married men i strongly believe transactional would be much better as there are no feelings involved and it's easy to clean up...and there would be less guilt....this week I would want to revert to normal and go back to normal cheonging in the rooms and stop seeing this person....I would like to see how it pans out....but all i can say is in my 10 years of cheonging I have never met a girl for myself or my frens whom money never becomes an issue... maybe others can share if they have ever met a girl they truly loves them...

[MoralEpitome]

Originally Posted by roamersg

Oh, hadn't linked your nick with the CMC thread talk about those singers, wow, pining for one of those singers with $20k hangings is very tough, unless you yourself are a master of KC like some of the esteemed gentlemen in this thread!

I too have recently met a singer that I am also considering what to do. I had previously sworn off singers for several reasons, expense only being one, KTV students fit my schedule better than the very late hours of singers. But once again finding myself tempted

btw...even the cmi singers in one of the joints got $7k hangings....i simply cannot understand why...i just feel that singers are high maintainence which is why i avoided singers at all costs....anyway this recent one I did not know she was a singer when I first got to know her which is why i got abit hooked on her...it also clashes with my schedule because I tend to go only for HH sessions so that i can get home before 10....now I have been staying out till mn becos of her...abit messed up...i am comtemplating to go back to another joint just for HH sessions where i can be with this other girl whom I quite liked before i got hooked to this singer...she's from heilongjiang and looks like korean....the easiest way to forget one girl is to find another hahaha...actually abit wasted because i know this girl first and with the kind of effort I spent on the singer...would have probably gotten her already....she is also rather pissed off with me after I abandon her for this singer...

the girls i like seldom chu jie easily....i guess i am just more fan jian....those that easily agree i don't want....

[tanterry]

Bro WB, thanks for sharing your insightful experience

I think you are soft-hearted and you forgive people who betray you too easily. I could be wrong lol maybe those people you have forgiven are pretty meimeis

[MoralEpitome]

Originally Posted by tanterry

Bro WB, thanks for sharing your insightful experience

I think you are soft-hearted and you forgive people who betray you too easily. I could be wrong lol maybe those people you have forgiven are pretty meimeis

actually it is true that some of these schools would demand for the school fees upfront...if they cannot pay...they would be force to go back china....but then this is a story i had heard many times....and like bro WB I am highly suspicious of this....in fact I had a girl whom just came Spore on this student pass and I managed to be the first Singapore man she bonked...who wanted to borrow a few k from me using this reason...of course i also felt bad that i did not help her...and now she's gone...but that's life... if u fail to plan you plan to fail

[bugmenot]

First time in my cheonging life.. I got attracted to a PRC Asst MMS who's a SYT.. The other day was only my first meeting with her.. Though my previous visits to this KTV I always look for my usual MMS fren.. Sigh.. I think I kena KC liao..

[tanterry]

Originally Posted by MoralEpitome

actually it is true that some of these schools would demand for the school fees upfront...if they cannot pay...they would be force to go back china....but then this is a story i had heard many times....and like bro WB I am highly suspicious of this....in fact I had a girl whom just came Spore on this student pass and I managed to be the first Singapore man she bonked...who wanted to borrow a few k from me using this reason...of course i also felt bad that i did not help her...and now she's gone...but that's life... if u fail to plan you plan to fail

Yup, most schools demand for the school fees upfront. What amazes me is WB’s forgiving heart. He’s been forced to plead guilty in the end, even though he’s her paymaster. I guess we have been forced to change by the circumstances of chionging world. Sometimes I wish I have that forgiving heart

[warbird]

Originally Posted by justime

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Also please pardon my candor but to “invest” 15K simply on the prospect of her sleeping with you (for perhaps only one time) is a poor value proposition.............
There are a multiplicity of techniques available to derive better value (a lot of which is already discussed in this thread). You might also ask Bro Warbird - he is a very generous person and I am sure that he is willing to share a lot of the strategies to maximize the mileage of your “courtship” budget. By courtship I mean from the cheongster’s perspective – maximum return (either physical or emotional) or quickest route to pussyland with the minimum financial outlay.

Cheers – perhaps see you at DC real soon ….

Hi bro justime,

Long time no see! I always enjoy reading ur posts.

BTW, I hv very limited experience w/ singers n can't comment on how to bed one. I'm most interested in SYT students for ST whenever possible or BY-ing if she is my type of gal w/ the right proportions.

I'll be going to KTVs n elsewhere to look for new meat. Pls call me for any outings.

Cheers!

Originally Posted by MoralEpitome

Wow....thanks to all the brudders for their insightful advice... whether suan or not.... i think the bottom line is don't fall in love with these prc girls...ultimately their aim is to make as much money in as short a time as possible.....even when she said she loves me....she still ask me how come i never hang her $5000 when I obviously have the money.................................but everyone has different perception of money....maybe to some $5000 is loose change but for me it's still hard earned money....

the other issue is i had enough of transactional sex...this is why I toyed with feelings to get a different high....sure i can get some of these chio prc ktv mm outs for sex...just pay them $150 to $300....but it's a different feeling when there seem to be some true feelings involved....................but all i can say is in my 10 years of cheonging I have never met a girl for myself or my frens whom money never becomes an issue... maybe others can share if they have ever met a girl they truly loves them...

Hi bro MoralEpitome,

Ths for ur thoughtful comments!

Originally Posted by tanterry

Bro WB, thanks for sharing your insightful experience

I think you are soft-hearted and you forgive people who betray you too easily. I could be wrong lol maybe those people you have forgiven are pretty meimeis

Hi bro tanterry,

My heart is getting tougher, hehehe. It was a very good learning experience for me as I hv never kept a gal for 2 1/2 months before.

She (Kk) was very faithful to me when I was physically present in SIN. Although she did betray me, she left me not for money but for a better future w/ a 20 yo boy from her hometown. It happened to her at a point in time when she was very helpless n vulnerable. But I know her RS w/ this young BF may not last at all.

My only regret is that I didn't hv a chance to execute my newly-acquired techniques to give her hr-long COS, etc. Even if I did, it might or might hv made a difference in our RS as I wasn't present at the time n would not be back for another 3 1/2 wks (I returned a wk earlier for another reason).

Originally Posted by MoralEpitome

actually it is true that some of these schools would demand for the school fees upfront...if they cannot pay...they would be force to go back china....but then this is a story i had heard many times....and like bro WB I am highly suspicious of this......and now she's gone...but that's life... if u fail to plan you plan to fail

Ths for the info.

Originally Posted by bugmenot

First time in my cheonging life.. I got attracted to a PRC Asst MMS who's a SYT.. The other day was only my first meeting with her.. Though my previous visits to this KTV I always look for my usual MMS fren.. Sigh.. I think I kena KC liao..

Be careful bro.

Originally Posted by tanterry

Yup, most schools demand for the school fees upfront. What amazes me is WB’s forgiving heart. He’s been forced to plead guilty in the end, even though he’s her paymaster. I guess we have been forced to change by the circumstances of chionging world. Sometimes I wish I have that forgiving heart

I hv not really pleaded guilty. She has pointed out some of my character flaws n I need to thank her for that.

By hooking up w/ a young student from her hometown she will not be making any money for her stay in SIN. Her only hope is for her BF to marry her. It's not going to happen n she knows it.

Cheers!

Bro WB

[MoralEpitome]

Originally Posted by bugmenot

First time in my cheonging life.. I got attracted to a PRC Asst MMS who's a SYT.. The other day was only my first meeting with her.. Though my previous visits to this KTV I always look for my usual MMS fren.. Sigh.. I think I kena KC liao..

lol...i understand how you feel....in fact I was talking to my fren yesterday night...and he has been there done that...and he advocates pure transactional sex now... in fact over the weekend I was thinking of her....and today i feel like going to see her but i will try to avoid seeing her for a couple of days until I can get my feelings in order...

once feelings are involved we are treading on dangerous water...

[roamersg]

Originally Posted by MoralEpitome

the other issue is i had enough of transactional sex...but it's a different feeling when there seem to be some true feelings involved

Originally Posted by MoralEpitome

it also clashes with my schedule because I tend to go only for HH sessions so that i can get home before 10....now I have been staying out till mn becos of her...abit messed up...she's from heilongjiang
the girls i like seldom chu jie easily....i guess i am just more fan jian....those that easily agree i don't want....

Hey bro, we may have a lot in common! I also prefer earlier schedules and go to HH more than SH. And I have the same reasons to pursue BY or other relationships b/c beyond sex with a beautiful young woman, I seek GFE, and with most transactional it's hard to get that. I actually do have a few PRC FBs where get good GFE, but I guess they remain FBs because they just don't make the grade for me to consider them as BYs. I also have a historical preference for dongbei girls (tho maybe your KTV girl just happens to be dongbei), largely because I like tall, slim girls with nice legs and nice bustlines, but also for whatever reason I seem to click with them better. That said, the singer I am tempted by is your usual Sichuan (a lot of singers from there for whatever reason).

In terms of chasing those who don't chujie easily, part of it I guess is desiring what's harder to get. But the other part is when they are highly sought after, they can make alot of money without chujie; instead they insist on being BY'd. I think bro warbird is in the same position, and so to get what he wants he BY's them. There was a recent dongbei KTV girl I would have loved to do ST, but she doesn't dabao, only would consider BY. I passed on her b/c I just didn't trust her enough, which also led to us not clicking as well

Net, if you think you can control yourself in terms of not falling in love but becoming fond of, then go ahead. But if love is a risk, then I say stick to transactional. My recent BY I split up with precisely because my feelings were starting to become too strong, so I decided it was safer to end it then, though I admit some heartache on both sides.

[roamersg]

Originally Posted by warbird

Two days earlier her cousin (their moms r real sisters), whose voice is almost identical to KK's, called me re an urgent loan to pay for her school fees, otherwise she would hv to go back to PRC n likely KK would hv to follow suit too. I didn't believe her n it would be very difficult for me to transfer money anyway.

Your comments n insights will be appreciated.

other bros have said i'm way too much a softie and I know it's true, but I would done exactly as you did. From the BY rate range you noted, she should not have fallen into that situation. So I would have struggled to believe her. And if she was simply profligate, I would have been annoyed too as they come here to make money, so they really ought to save much of our BY funds

On the other hand, you doing what I would have done is not a good sign, as I am more likely the victim of KC than the master of it! Good luck with the new one, her enthusiasm is great!

[timmz]

sigh.. i have a friend who is also finding difficulty in stopping to meet Fls. and breaking off a r/s more than that of a pure ONS kind... i m sure many bros have similar experience here..

no good way though..

[MoralEpitome]

Originally Posted by roamersg

Hey bro, we may have a lot in common! I also prefer earlier schedules and go to HH more than SH. And I have the same reasons to pursue BY or other relationships b/c beyond sex with a beautiful young woman, I seek GFE, and with most transactional it's hard to get that. I actually do have a few PRC FBs where get good GFE, but I guess they remain FBs because they just don't make the grade for me to consider them as BYs. I also have a historical preference for dongbei girls (tho maybe your KTV girl just happens to be dongbei), largely because I like tall, slim girls with nice legs and nice bustlines, but also for whatever reason I seem to click with them better. That said, the singer I am tempted by is your usual Sichuan (a lot of singers from there for whatever reason).

In terms of chasing those who don't chujie easily, part of it I guess is desiring what's harder to get. But the other part is when they are highly sought after, they can make alot of money without chujie; instead they insist on being BY'd. I think bro warbird is in the same position, and so to get what he wants he BY's them. There was a recent dongbei KTV girl I would have loved to do ST, but she doesn't dabao, only would consider BY. I passed on her b/c I just didn't trust her enough, which also led to us not clicking as well

Net, if you think you can control yourself in terms of not falling in love but becoming fond of, then go ahead. But if love is a risk, then I say stick to transactional. My recent BY I split up with precisely because my feelings were starting to become too strong, so I decided it was safer to end it then, though I admit some heartache on both sides.

lol...today i din go and see the singer...i feel so stupid now....even if i give her 4k a mth is not good enough for her....i think that it is just wishful thinking on my part...maybe she has feelings for me and i have feelings for her....but end of the day there is not free fuck...i dun believe that it is possible to make any ger fall for you if you don't give her what she wants.....i think her expectations is abt 10k a mth which i would not give....maybe some of the more esteemed brudders here can afford....i went another ktv today and saw this ger my fren is BYing without giving her a fixed sum...looks wise can rival the singer...personality wise quite bubbly...good stuff...i think this type will be more worth it....so i decided to drop the singer or occasionally just give a small token sum as i have been doing on a regular basis.... yes i also prefer dongbei or sichuan gers....had bad experiences with fujian girls...think it's the way they are brought up... but my leads are all dried up after spending 1 and a half mth wasting my time with the singer...will have to slowly find new leads...hahahah.... and i would like to hear from all esteem brudders how to avoid developing feelings for the BYs...i am too soft hearted too...

[tanterry]

Originally Posted by warbird

I hv not really pleaded guilty. She has pointed out some of my character flaws n I need to thank her for that.

By hooking up w/ a young student from her hometown she will not be making any money for her stay in SIN. Her only hope is for her BF to marry her. It's not going to happen n she knows it.

Cheers!

Bro WB

Bro, I won’t describe it as a character flaw. I guess it’s of human nature that you have to be business-minded with her. But gals are always gals and they like a bit of kc. So take it as a lesson that you need to practise fine points of KC skill on your next BY lol.

[warbird]

Good morning!

I'm most gratified to see that this humble thread has been very active w/ so many esteemed bros sharing their insights n experiences.

Ths again!! Keep ur posts coming.

Cheers!

Bro WB

Originally Posted by roamersg

other bros have said i'm way too much a softie and I know it's true, but I would done exactly as you did. From the BY rate range you noted, she should not have fallen into that situation. So I would have struggled to believe her. And if she was simply profligate, I would have been annoyed too as they come here to make money, so they really ought to save much of our BY funds

On the other hand, you doing what I would have done is not a good sign, as I am more likely the victim of KC than the master of it! Good luck with the new one, her enthusiasm is great!

Hi bro roamersg,

My heart is getting harder n harder.

I believe KK sent most of her money home thinking that I would always come to her rescue even if I was in Gotham City. Reason? I was being too NICE to her. She n her cousin were shocked that I refused or couldn't help.

Through meditation my KC for KK is now close to zero. Next!

Originally Posted by tanterry

Bro, I won’t describe it as a character flaw. I guess it’s of human nature that you have to be business-minded with her. But gals are always gals and they like a bit of kc. So take it as a lesson that you need to practise fine points of KC skill on your next BY lol.

Hi bro tanterry,

To survive in a dog-eat-dog environment prevailing in Gotham City, I hv to be tough, selfish n even ruthless at times.

One area I must improve is in communication. I must spend more time listening to these gals. It's amazing wat we men hv to do just to get some pussies.

Cheers!

Bro WB

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Last nite I was in DC SH w/ a few movers n shakers of the much vaunted HFJ. I wish I had a fraction of the moolah these esteemed bros hv.

I called CD to sit w/ me. She sang my favourite American songs. Her conversational English is now even better. Her vocabulary is still very limited though. I BS her abt my time constraints, etc. I then massaged her ears, neck n back n certain areas of her waist ( I just learned this 2 wks ago). I was sure she was aroused n her cunt wet wet, hehehe.

I whispered to her that I would like to meet her but would compensate her each time, instead of BY-ing her, so that it would be more EQUITABLE for both parties. She asked, what do u mean by EQUITABLE? I told her, 公平，公正。She nodded her head n said, just call me. The damage has not been discussed. By the way, I did BY her for a wk before.

Yesterday I called GG re getting a singer visa for 6 months, the type she doesn't need to work. According to my agent, she could come in a wk. She said perhaps a work permit n her fren's agent might be the way to go. She was a bit hesitant n seemed to prefer her fren's agent.

Does she not want to come to be my mistress (pun intended)? I had a very long talk w/ her this AM n found out her worries n hesitancy. She confessed that she had lied to me re her visa status last Sep when I first met her. She was on student visa n had been here since July but told me she was on a visitor pass. I had her for only 2 wks before she went back. She was worried that her little lie might affect our future RS or I might ditch her. I told her I had forgiven her, hehehe.

I want her to come bcos, firstly, she is MY type of pussy n, secondly, she is very easily orgasmic w/ loud screams...I want to find out if she could scream for an hr!!

Cheers!

Bro WB

[MoralEpitome]

2nd day hunting....sad that i can't find any girl close to the standard of the singer i liked...actually i think we can learn from bro WB...keep it simple now....just buy her time instead of permanment BY....fair and square...