Who have a long term relationship with PRC KTV girl?

[shoot]

Originally Posted by anythingz

too chim for me bro...

Don't know why suddenly I can write so well, don't pray pray! Heeee!

[sadfa]

Originally Posted by shoot

Hello Bro BlurWolfe,

Always remember, be prepared for the worse with girls working in such a complicated environment. They will meet different kind of ppl day in day out. 2 years is not a short time, anything can happen. If can be 2gether, good if not then move on. Even if he got the answer what can he do? Whether she is saying the true or not is also a ? mark. Maybe somebody can fulfil her dream quicker or she has fallen 4 another guy etc..... it will never end, there r just 2many possibilities.

Move on bro, I'm not young n I've experience all kinds of events. I've also been depressed b4 n at the end of the day I asked myself why should I b unhappy just bcause of her. There r still so many good friends n beautiful ladies who can bring u cheers. Be happy brother, u don't live twice. Cherish the love u have now n Cheong with yr friends if u like it n enjoy, life is short!

Just my 2 cents worth.

yo bro, how u know got 2 years? blurwolfe never say leh?
but agree w what u say, about the same as my message.
have fun if u can, as long as u can look at yourself in the mirror, no regrets!

[shoot]

Originally Posted by sadfa

yo bro, how u know got 2 years? blurwolfe never say leh?
but agree w what u say, about the same as my message.
have fun if u can, as long as u can look at yourself in the mirror, no regrets!

Not got 2 years lah. She told him she is going to work for A COUPLE OF YEARS mah! Am I right? Heee!

[sadfa]

Originally Posted by Flame

Just my 2 cents worth ..
I always believed that a person behaviour is caused by the treatment he/she being subjected into ... meaning to say it is a 2 sided affair.. like a coin...
U think that they cheated on u .. they might always think that u cheated on them..
The point for me is to believe in the events that it routed u to.. during the end u meant feel hurt ..rejected but also u might feel happy and good ending...Human is fragile and not robot ...no matter how they acted , they still have feelings and it up to u to uncover it...we all are fragile and we cheated people or they cheated us because they try to defend or protect themselves and that nothing wrong with it...it just life ..

well, i speak with many of these prc in this line, and many auto feel men out to cheat them to free fuck them regardless of who. so in turn they suck the men money first in case they get cheated later.

but my brudda? can tell he crazy over her and not to free fuck her but he kenna chop 1st. so he never mistreat her but he kenna also. maybe it means the charbor will kenna bad karma and deported back to prc soon?

[powertool69]

IMHO, I think relationship with these PRC gals is like a game of chess. Always be on guard. Dun let them makan all your pawns, bishop etc.... Instead, makan theirs first!!!

I believed after all my personal experiences, majority of them are ASSHOLES!!! Ask yourself this question:- Why are they here for? for love? or for $$$$??? They are very sly, if they can't fish $$$ from u one way, they'll try another way......

[Randi_Candi]

Originally Posted by powertool69

IMHO, I think relationship with these PRC gals is like a game of chess. Always be on guard. Dun let them makan all your pawns, bishop etc.... Instead, makan theirs first!!!

I believed after all my personal experiences, majority of them are ASSHOLES!!! Ask yourself this question:- Why are they here for? for love? or for $$$$??? They are very sly, if they can't fish $$$ from u one way, they'll try another way......

Else another chai tao

[sadfa]

Originally Posted by powertool69

IMHO, I think relationship with these PRC gals is like a game of chess. Always be on guard. Dun let them makan all your pawns, bishop etc.... Instead, makan theirs first!!!

I believed after all my personal experiences, majority of them are ASSHOLES!!! Ask yourself this question:- Why are they here for? for love? or for $$$$??? They are very sly, if they can't fish $$$ from u one way, they'll try another way......

then u r a chess grand champion bro!
how? afternoon already. 2day got afternoon action or not?

[batami]

After reading this thread I suggest any bros who is thinking of a relationship with a KTV / HC / TN PRC (or Thai or Malay or Indo) should follow these words of advice:

1. Go stand in front of mirror and with think marker pen or (her) lipstick write on your forehead ATM - now you see what she sees
2. Next time you take her out don't overdo the cash - just go cheap - tell her your jobs on the line, no money for a couple of months then ask her if she'll wait (don't hold your breath)
3. Go buy a good book circulating in Thailand called "Money Number One" - also sub titled Money Number 2, Money Number 3
4. Ask yourself what will my parents says / my best friends parents / workers / etc say when you take her "home' - and she announces she works in TN joint..
5. Now go and repeat to your self 100 times - don't be stupid, dont be stupid dont be stupid.....

IF, after following all of these rules you still want to play - go ahead - be prepared for her leaving you with an empty wallet and empty heart!

AND - I should know - failed all rules and ended up older, wiser, poorer as a result of one encounter with a very well known, sexy, good looking PDMM and another equally attractive young PRC and a third encounter with a courgeous Thai.... I am older than most bros on this forum - and that means I have been around long enought to make more mistakes than most of you.... and I have ... so be careful.....

[sadfa]

Originally Posted by batami

After reading this thread I suggest any bros who is thinking of a relationship with a KTV / HC / TN PRC (or Thai or Malay or Indo) should follow these words of advice:

1. Go stand in front of mirror and with think marker pen or (her) lipstick write on your forehead ATM - now you see what she sees
2. Next time you take her out don't overdo the cash - just go cheap - tell her your jobs on the line, no money for a couple of months then ask her if she'll wait (don't hold your breath)
3. Go buy a good book circulating in Thailand called "Money Number One" - also sub titled Money Number 2, Money Number 3
4. Ask yourself what will my parents says / my best friends parents / workers / etc say when you take her "home' - and she announces she works in TN joint..
5. Now go and repeat to your self 100 times - don't be stupid, dont be stupid dont be stupid.....

IF, after following all of these rules you still want to play - go ahead - be prepared for her leaving you with an empty wallet and empty heart!

AND - I should know - failed all rules and ended up older, wiser, poorer as a result of one encounter with a very well known, sexy, good looking PDMM and another equally attractive young PRC and a third encounter with a courgeous Thai.... I am older than most bros on this forum - and that means I have been around long enought to make more mistakes than most of you.... and I have ... so be careful.....

clap clap! well said.
care 2 share your experience with the 3 charbors and how your relationship fail?

[batami]

happy to share if it helps my friends - here's first installment - but if you are looking for sex adventure go to another posting :-) let's call this one "Miss Shopping Trip".

relationship 1. very attractive 30 year old PDMM - this went on over six months - she looks hot, can show lot of personality - when dressed well really turns heads in street! Aaw her a few times at TN - HJ only she doesn't do FJ, asked her out - dinner / drinks - ok went well she verybig on bf/gf feeling holding hands, etc etc but that's all, no bonking - she had to get back to look after her child and doesn't like H81 type of place. Pace slow and steady, no problem - not (yet) too expensive; gave her some small gifts

{Batami's tip of the day: don't buy perfume at $50 - $60 - go to Lucky Plaza and find store (there are a few here and in Golden MIle(and i guess other places) that sells minature perfumes - these are bigger than samples but smaller than duty free size and are real thing but cost $7 - tell her they are special handbag size...can use these in many situations - e.g.regular HC bonk (show little appreciation) more effect than extra $10 tip, etc}

So far, relationship and service always good (improves each time) not too much money spent. Next came the "let's go shopping trip" - she has now assessed size of my wallet and bank account. Where shall we meet - she chooses Takashamaya!! "window shopping" I thought - hand in hand gf / bf stuff. We look here, look there, lunch, nothing bought .. I am safe - then handbags - just to look - she only wanted one little handbag - ouch... in front of lady assistant, and other customers, Just this one darling! When it doesn't have price tag then its bloody expenisive! Out came plastic. Next, short couple of nights away - someone looks after child - great bf / gf stuff - ok in bed, 0nly ok not spectacular. BUT when we discuss what shall we do - she say's Lets go shopping - holy shit here we go - this time clothes - just a pair of jeans and t shirt darling - ouch - brand nameS - she big into top end brands. But by now I have too much of bf / gf feeling to say anything. Next time - away for a couple of days - just before she's moving inot new apt - Let's go shopping - she wanted me to buy whole new houseful for her - declined settled for a few of basics and held on to my plastic.. she decidedly cool,

In summary - she looks real good - I mean real good, gives you big gf/bf feeling on street and when you are out (I am in love again <- no I am not I am stupid)), not much to shout about in bed - low enthusiasm but i want to believe it will get better - she takes but doesn't give (better performance when she was in TN joint); but comes alive when it's Let's go shopping time. I did too much chasing. She sees ATM - I see g/f.

Here were the "warning"signs; in china she was hairdresser for couple of years then stopped work to have child, then husband left her(or vice versa); shop work for a while then borrowed money to come to Singapore; works to get child through school - great I respect her and any of the PDMMs for that and feel really unhappy that some of these girls are loosing jobs and schooling for their kids because work permit changes (but that's another story) - but when i see her wearing expensive jewellry, holding REAL Gucci handbags, real $3000 Brand watch, these did not come from $ as TN lady nor from previous life in china... she's had clearly been on many more Shopping Expeditions with previous "boy friends". I have no objection to anyone having the best she (or her boyfriend) can afford - but the signs were that she is shopping lady and I am ATM. Now, she's moved back to Southern China - spoke once - I go to China on business - she will be very very happy if I can go to see her -she needs to buy some new things for her house!!

Message to bros: check out lifestyle - see if it makes sense - if it does OK - if not - where does money come from. If it is from boy friend ATM and you want to be ATM up to you.

SORRY EVERYONE _ This was damned long and I applaud any bros who reads to the end. Just hope it helps. Other two cases another day.

[suckerll]

Originally Posted by batami

happy to share if it helps my friends - here's first installment - but if you are looking for sex adventure go to another posting :-) let's call this one "Miss Shopping Trip".

relationship 1. very attractive 30 year old PDMM - this went on over six months - she looks hot, can show lot of personality - when dressed well really turns heads in street! Aaw her a few times at TN - HJ only she doesn't do FJ, asked her out - dinner / drinks - ok went well she verybig on bf/gf feeling holding hands, etc etc but that's all, no bonking - she had to get back to look after her child and doesn't like H81 type of place. Pace slow and steady, no problem - not (yet) too expensive; gave her some small gifts

{Batami's tip of the day: don't buy perfume at $50 - $60 - go to Lucky Plaza and find store (there are a few here and in Golden MIle(and i guess other places) that sells minature perfumes - these are bigger than samples but smaller than duty free size and are real thing but cost $7 - tell her they are special handbag size...can use these in many situations - e.g.regular HC bonk (show little appreciation) more effect than extra $10 tip, etc}

So far, relationship and service always good (improves each time) not too much money spent. Next came the "let's go shopping trip" - she has now assessed size of my wallet and bank account. Where shall we meet - she chooses Takashamaya!! "window shopping" I thought - hand in hand gf / bf stuff. We look here, look there, lunch, nothing bought .. I am safe - then handbags - just to look - she only wanted one little handbag - ouch... in front of lady assistant, and other customers, Just this one darling! When it doesn't have price tag then its bloody expenisive! Out came plastic. Next, short couple of nights away - someone looks after child - great bf / gf stuff - ok in bed, 0nly ok not spectacular. BUT when we discuss what shall we do - she say's Lets go shopping - holy shit here we go - this time clothes - just a pair of jeans and t shirt darling - ouch - brand nameS - she big into top end brands. But by now I have too much of bf / gf feeling to say anything. Next time - away for a couple of days - just before she's moving inot new apt - Let's go shopping - she wanted me to buy whole new houseful for her - declined settled for a few of basics and held on to my plastic.. she decidedly cool,

In summary - she looks real good - I mean real good, gives you big gf/bf feeling on street and when you are out (I am in love again <- no I am not I am stupid)), not much to shout about in bed - low enthusiasm but i want to believe it will get better - she takes but doesn't give (better performance when she was in TN joint); but comes alive when it's Let's go shopping time. I did too much chasing. She sees ATM - I see g/f.

Here were the "warning"signs; in china she was hairdresser for couple of years then stopped work to have child, then husband left her(or vice versa); shop work for a while then borrowed money to come to Singapore; works to get child through school - great I respect her and any of the PDMMs for that and feel really unhappy that some of these girls are loosing jobs and schooling for their kids because work permit changes (but that's another story) - but when i see her wearing expensive jewellry, holding REAL Gucci handbags, real $3000 Brand watch, these did not come from $ as TN lady nor from previous life in china... she's had clearly been on many more Shopping Expeditions with previous "boy friends". I have no objection to anyone having the best she (or her boyfriend) can afford - but the signs were that she is shopping lady and I am ATM. Now, she's moved back to Southern China - spoke once - I go to China on business - she will be very very happy if I can go to see her -she needs to buy some new things for her house!!

Message to bros: check out lifestyle - see if it makes sense - if it does OK - if not - where does money come from. If it is from boy friend ATM and you want to be ATM up to you.

SORRY EVERYONE _ This was damned long and I applaud any bros who reads to the end. Just hope it helps. Other two cases another day.

thanks for the effort put into writing,will be anxiously waiting for your next installment!

[ah huathuat]

Originally Posted by shoot

Hello Bro BlurWolfe,

Always remember, be prepared for the worse with girls working in such a complicated environment. They will meet different kind of ppl day in day out. 2 years is not a short time, anything can happen. If can be 2gether, good if not then move on. Even if he got the answer what can he do? Whether she is saying the true or not is also a ? mark. Maybe somebody can fulfil her dream quicker or she has fallen 4 another guy etc..... it will never end, there r just 2many possibilities.

Move on bro, I'm not young n I've experience all kinds of events. I've also been depressed b4 n at the end of the day I asked myself why should I b unhappy just bcause of her. There r still so many good friends n beautiful ladies who can bring u cheers. Be happy brother, u don't live twice. Cherish the love u have now n Cheong with yr friends if u like it n enjoy, life is short!

Just my 2 cents worth.

yeah, life is short. play hard! never ever get into serious relationship with any girl be it, ktv, tui na or massage parlor or even freelancer! not even normal girl that you have happened to fall in love with unless you are serious about it and ofcos vice versa for her!

[ah huathuat]

Originally Posted by batami

happy to share if it helps my friends - here's first installment - but if you are looking for sex adventure go to another posting :-) let's call this one "Miss Shopping Trip".

relationship 1. very attractive 30 year old PDMM - this went on over six months - she looks hot, can show lot of personality - when dressed well really turns heads in street! Aaw her a few times at TN - HJ only she doesn't do FJ, asked her out - dinner / drinks - ok went well she verybig on bf/gf feeling holding hands, etc etc but that's all, no bonking - she had to get back to look after her child and doesn't like H81 type of place. Pace slow and steady, no problem - not (yet) too expensive; gave her some small gifts

{Batami's tip of the day: don't buy perfume at $50 - $60 - go to Lucky Plaza and find store (there are a few here and in Golden MIle(and i guess other places) that sells minature perfumes - these are bigger than samples but smaller than duty free size and are real thing but cost $7 - tell her they are special handbag size...can use these in many situations - e.g.regular HC bonk (show little appreciation) more effect than extra $10 tip, etc}

So far, relationship and service always good (improves each time) not too much money spent. Next came the "let's go shopping trip" - she has now assessed size of my wallet and bank account. Where shall we meet - she chooses Takashamaya!! "window shopping" I thought - hand in hand gf / bf stuff. We look here, look there, lunch, nothing bought .. I am safe - then handbags - just to look - she only wanted one little handbag - ouch... in front of lady assistant, and other customers, Just this one darling! When it doesn't have price tag then its bloody expenisive! Out came plastic. Next, short couple of nights away - someone looks after child - great bf / gf stuff - ok in bed, 0nly ok not spectacular. BUT when we discuss what shall we do - she say's Lets go shopping - holy shit here we go - this time clothes - just a pair of jeans and t shirt darling - ouch - brand nameS - she big into top end brands. But by now I have too much of bf / gf feeling to say anything. Next time - away for a couple of days - just before she's moving inot new apt - Let's go shopping - she wanted me to buy whole new houseful for her - declined settled for a few of basics and held on to my plastic.. she decidedly cool,

In summary - she looks real good - I mean real good, gives you big gf/bf feeling on street and when you are out (I am in love again <- no I am not I am stupid)), not much to shout about in bed - low enthusiasm but i want to believe it will get better - she takes but doesn't give (better performance when she was in TN joint); but comes alive when it's Let's go shopping time. I did too much chasing. She sees ATM - I see g/f.

Here were the "warning"signs; in china she was hairdresser for couple of years then stopped work to have child, then husband left her(or vice versa); shop work for a while then borrowed money to come to Singapore; works to get child through school - great I respect her and any of the PDMMs for that and feel really unhappy that some of these girls are loosing jobs and schooling for their kids because work permit changes (but that's another story) - but when i see her wearing expensive jewellry, holding REAL Gucci handbags, real $3000 Brand watch, these did not come from $ as TN lady nor from previous life in china... she's had clearly been on many more Shopping Expeditions with previous "boy friends". I have no objection to anyone having the best she (or her boyfriend) can afford - but the signs were that she is shopping lady and I am ATM. Now, she's moved back to Southern China - spoke once - I go to China on business - she will be very very happy if I can go to see her -she needs to buy some new things for her house!!

Message to bros: check out lifestyle - see if it makes sense - if it does OK - if not - where does money come from. If it is from boy friend ATM and you want to be ATM up to you.

SORRY EVERYONE _ This was damned long and I applaud any bros who reads to the end. Just hope it helps. Other two cases another day.

most of these prc woman whether from ktv or tui na have many boyfriends! they are here to make BIG bucks and can never stay with only one guy! remember it was reported in the paper last year that one chio 35 yo prc woman who claimed to be on "student" pass has 5 boyfriends to live on and average "collection" a month can come up to be more than $5,000 SGD!

so guys, let's dun let these cheat play around with our money or feeling for some of the bros here. no need to be so serious!

[manfon]

Originally Posted by Flame

Just my 2 cents worth ..
I always believed that a person behaviour is caused by the treatment he/she being subjected into ... meaning to say it is a 2 sided affair.. like a coin...
U think that they cheated on u .. they might always think that u cheated on them..
The point for me is to believe in the events that it routed u to.. during the end u meant feel hurt ..rejected but also u might feel happy and good ending...Human is fragile and not robot ...no matter how they acted , they still have feelings and it up to u to uncover it...we all are fragile and we cheated people or they cheated us because they try to defend or protect themselves and that nothing wrong with it...it just life ..

Dont agree with you that it is a cause and effect thing here.. I have experienced it before myself too.. ie know a gal for awhile and she disappear without a single reason... just vanished into thin air.. til now, she just come and go like a wind......

[BlurWolfe]

Hi Bro Sadfa,

My friend not like me lor, he cheong only once a few months, thats why he got hooked.
Anyway I very sianzzz and have tried not to talk to him already. For going to her work place, she told him not to after they met again said that too expensive, and he could call her hp to date outside. Thats why he thought she is so sweet to him lor.
Anyway for me I always try to obey the "PAP", "Pay and Play".

BW

Originally Posted by sadfa

aiyah blurwolfe, if he really wants to know, go to her workplace and find her loh.
million and 1 reasons. maybe she wants someone richer, someone dont know about her past, someone she see a future with, maybe she over sensitive and he say something wrong?

anyway deep down these charbor wont want to be with a customer and want someone who dont know anything about their past. of course, these things seldom work.