Is there true love between us and PRC WL

[colins]

Originally Posted by upmountain

hi bros

generally quite new to this 'matters of the heart' part of the forum. as there are not many threads here, i guess this is probably the most appropriate thread to post a question i have, hope all bros here can share their honest opinions, and even happy (hopefully) experiences. my question is:

Is there true love between us and PRC NON-WLs in general?

there have been many horror stories on PRC WLs everywhere in this forum as far as relationships go. but how about the 'different' breed of PRC girl? They are the ones who came here to study a diploma or even a degree, picked up english (and even singlish to the extend that some of them can be mistaken for local sg girls), and work in administrative, clerical etc. positions. They are very young, definitely not PDMM types, all below 30 years old.

how do bros here think that there is a higher chance of true love with these girls? or ultimately, is it a naive and overly optimistic belief that they are not any better that the WLs in the sense that at the end of it, PRC WL or NON-WL, both are out to exploit u.

Please share bros

True love need true feelings. Loving what you represents and loving what you possess is what everybody need to differentiate. Culturally, that has different interpretations also. But I think there should be a scope to this becos when I bring my female friend to Singapore, I made her promise me not to go into a relationship in her first year, I was afraid she'll get KC by our guys here! It is only when we say, ok we understand all the KC by local girls and is able to see thru all of it, then we can say ok now we see whats the diff with these PRC new immigrants. Becos if we dun, we will definately over generalise to a point that both types of girls (local or prc) seems to be quite capable in doing the same thing.

To PRC girls, sad to say, money is definately a factor. It may or may not be the first priority, but it is definately in their list of priorities. I dun know if this is different from local girls (see what I mean?) but my take is, just be you lor. Dun go and act big shot or pretend to be some chinese indon whose father owns a sand hill or something. Like that you'll just hang a road sign on you saying "Chai Tao - Pls Ka Me".

But if you do lock on a prc lady, try to understand her culture and family first. Cos many girls I know have mothers who give them splendid advice like, "KC him first, treat him nice now so you can grab him, after marriage you make him give you all his income then you can control him". Incidently, her father is a university lecturer who gave her mum all his 6k salary, and she gives him 20RMB a day for daily expense, makan and ciggy all in. He got beaten up a lot of times and sometimes spend his day in my apartment fearing his wife. To save money, she would come to my apartment (which I rent from her) to have her shower and laundry. And she owns 3 apartments in shanghai. Horror stories like this won't help you if all you see is the prelude to your marriage life, so do sought to understand people before you make friends.

[upmountain]

Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

U must understand the PRC culture to understand your question.
Most if not all, regardless of trade or profession, will require a house as a form of guarantee of security.
I have a bro who works in Shanghai, he was dating this gal, a general manager of MNC, and guess wat, she also asks for the same. House car, but with a GM pay in a MNC???????
Its the culture & thus, happiness can be found, but $$$$ is a factor that cannot be dismissed.
Think about it, a foreigner drops everything to be with you...yes everything.
You're her food, her love, her sex, her shelter, her caregiver, her emotional supporter and so on....what if one day you decide you dun wan her anymore and leaves?????? Survival of oneself before anything else. This i believe is the key to all your questions my friend.

Thanks to all bros for their insightful opinions on my question. In a way, i agree that the 'Survival' issue is very important to most PRC girls. Perhaps it could be due to their upbringing (you can't really blame them because PRC is a big country and to even survive in it, they are up against their fellow countrymen, in a way, 'survival of the fittest' is really a way of life for them).

But, the next thing to ask is, as an SG guy who is brought up in a different society and has different habits, even if we were to understand their need for financial security, and considering the fact that many of us have kanna cheated by them before, how can we safeguard ourselves while also providing for their security?

I mean, as much as they need that security from us, we also need some form of security from them right (may not be financial, but at least something genuine). This could be our cultural perspective and they may not understand this. Which leads me to conclude:

1. Any relationship with a PRC girl is russian roulette. You can give her the
security she needs. But whether she turns out to be genuinely serious
about you or whether she is out to con you, depends very much on
luck.

2. SG guys and PRC gals are just culturally incompatible. It is very difficult
for both sides to truly understand each other's culture. So, SG guys
should not even consider going into a serious relationship with them. I
would like to reject this view as unfair and very general. But there are
merits to this view: just look at all con-affairs that have happened.

Any bros can reach a different conclusion or has a different view on the matter?

[colins]

Cultural barrier will also be there. In fact, I think sg men find it harder to understand outside culture rather than vice versa. Foreigners also got problem understanding our mac'hello kitty' culture to say the least.

[upmountain]

Hi Bro Colins

i think a cultural barrier would automatically exist between any 2 foreign partners. To overcome these barriers would really depend on how serious and committed the parties are. of course, sometimes it will be successful sometimes it will fail.

but i observe, not only in this forum but elsewhere, that relationships between SG guys and lets say for example, Thai girls, are more likely to succeed. for some reason, even though SG guys have to go another 'barrier' in language before even coming to the cultural barrier, they have a higher success rate of a serious relationship with their Thai partners. of course , there are also failures and the usual cases of con-jobs and all that, but when we consider SG guy/PRC girl relationships, the success rate is almost negligible if we consider that there are indeed, many SG/PRC relationships going on.

so while cultural barriers are always present between 2 foreign partners, it would seem that not only is there a cultural barrier between SG guys and PRC girls, but complete cultural incompatibility. not impossible to reconcile, but the odds are really stacked against us in that sense.

[DRSG]

My 1st ex is SG lasted 3 yrs with successful professional carreer.My second ex(going to be ex oficially soon) is HK. We were married for 14 years and sexually satisfying life!.Educationally inferior to 1st but intellectually just as superior to former.We were culturally and linguistically totally different but we managed.I learned her canto and everything and adapted.Now we fall apart because of character change and atitude as we grow old we change too.Love cannot sustain everything.

[xyz1001]

Originally Posted by colins

It is only when we say, ok we understand all the KC by local girls and is able to see thru all of it, then we can say ok now we see whats the diff with these PRC new immigrants. Becos if we dun, we will definately over generalise to a point that both types of girls (local or prc) seems to be quite capable in doing the same thing.

Bro colins, abt the KC part, i think all types of gals (local or prc) are capable of doing the same thing, as long as they are in this line. It is really like a professional skills and they are still improving on it. (if not how to KC those seasoned cheongsters) KC is customer service, like casino having casino hostess, they do everything so that those big-rollers will come back.

Then the non-wl women, since they are not in this line, they are not expose to such high level of professional skills. But becoz they are both women, they tends to be able to figure out what the other party is doing and thinking. I really doubt that we men will be able to see through all of it.

So what's the differences between prc WLs and prc non-WLs? The professional skills level. Same goes to differences between local WLs and local sg girls, prefessional skills level.

All gals and women knows abt the mind games, even if they dun practise it. Go relate some stories and ask other gals, they will be able to tell u what the gals is really doing and thinking. So what makes prc gals so different from local? Culture. And as bro colin pointed out, money is inside their list of priority. Other than culture, it is the upbringing of the family. A gal is unlikely to think otherwise if she is brainwash by her family that money is the only thing that is impt for the past 20 years. These 2 factors shape a strong foundation in their thinking. They need exposure and experiences in life to change their perspective of life.

[colins]

Originally Posted by xyz1001

Bro colins, abt the KC part, i think all types of gals (local or prc) are capable of doing the same thing, as long as they are in this line. It is really like a professional skills and they are still improving on it. (if not how to KC those seasoned cheongsters) KC is customer service, like casino having casino hostess, they do everything so that those big-rollers will come back.

Then the non-wl women, since they are not in this line, they are not expose to such high level of professional skills. But becoz they are both women, they tends to be able to figure out what the other party is doing and thinking. I really doubt that we men will be able to see through all of it.

So what's the differences between prc WLs and prc non-WLs? The professional skills level. Same goes to differences between local WLs and local sg girls, prefessional skills level.

All gals and women knows abt the mind games, even if they dun practise it. Go relate some stories and ask other gals, they will be able to tell u what the gals is really doing and thinking. So what makes prc gals so different from local? Culture. And as bro colin pointed out, money is inside their list of priority. Other than culture, it is the upbringing of the family. A gal is unlikely to think otherwise if she is brainwash by her family that money is the only thing that is impt for the past 20 years. These 2 factors shape a strong foundation in their thinking. They need exposure and experiences in life to change their perspective of life.

Yes agree. I guess the difference between WL and non-WL is the willingness to use their skills to trap a man's heart for his future, or to trap a man's heart for his money, since that skill set is universal to all female. Honestly though, I dun know which is more cruel! haha...

[goodfun]

Originally Posted by upmountain

Any bros can reach a different conclusion or has a different view on the matter?

bro my view is there is no security in any form of marriage or relationship wif women!
dont get me wrong,i love women

to me all women is the same no different in races,country,continent and etc.
before courtship and after marriage they behave differently mostly...
they love and they hate,they lie or they cheat,aint we the same
they are being hurt at times,they also hurt ppl. at times,
tat why we cheongster in SB forum always have tis quote
"Cheong wif ur BIG head and not ur small head"

Relationship can be a complicated matter,for some they take it for granted,but for some they are able to manage well...U need to manage!

Yes i believe there is true love among ppl. be it prc,WL and etc.
but why there is still sad story,they must know wat game they are in before they play even in marriage,lots of factor...in short nobody can ask u to sell house sell car and take the money in ur bank to her if u are not willing.u must know ur limit.

just enjoy our times wif our loves one together (parents,family,kids and etc)take urself lightly and be happy

[afx2222]

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[afx2222]

So weird. I only have not contacted this PRC for 3-5 days due to job loads. However, I was trying to call her yesterday and today but to no avail She already off her phone or might have changed number without informing me. There was once when she picked up my call, I heard a voice of a guy and ever since, I already begun to suspect that she could be having a lover or hubby back home I initiated to contact and sms her but she never replied or call back since returned to mainland on 23 Feb.

+86134778979**

Any hints and signs?

[avatar9021]

Bro it is possible to have love between both of you.But it is very rare.Most of those girls have their own life to worry about and they dont want to have extra burden by getting into relationship.Most of them say they miss you but actually they only miss your money.After they manage to brainwash you they will rob you off your money and run back to their country.Trust me I have been in that situation.

[jameschong1]

[QUOTE=afx2222;5870963][COLOR="DarkOrchid"]
There was once when she picked up my call, I heard a voice of a guy and ever since, I already begun to suspect that she could be having a lover or hubby back home:
+86134778979**
Any hints and signs?
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CONFIRMED she feeding her xiao bai nian back home.

Singaporean fuckers are so silly,
Giving their money to prsotitutes so easily,
Then they complain & cry like baby,
& complain China prostitutes treat them so badly,
The no money so must end up pa puay ki!

[afx2222]

Originally Posted by jameschong1

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CONFIRMED she feeding her xiao bai nian back home.

[SIZE="7"][COLOR="Red"]Singaporean fuckers are so silly,
Giving their money to prsotitutes so easily,
Then they complain & cry like baby,
& complain China prostitutes treat them so badly,
The no money so must end up pa puay ki!

Abang oh Abang, why suddenly mocking at sillyporean? Sillyporean screw and lick your gf/hm's abalone? Why so anti sillyporean? Although small brother not yet a sillyporean or may not eligible to be one, somehow I also wish to be borne and raised in sillypore too. Their edu system, eco system, trading sys are also better than our very own bolehland (KNN CCBYE bolehland)

Sigh! I already have a steady PRC gf which is non WL,ML,FL. I only missed this PRC 34C neh neh only!

[jameschong1]

[QUOTE=afx2222;5874153][COLOR="DarkOrchid"]Abang oh Abang, why suddenly mocking at sillyporean? Sillyporean screw and lick your gf/hm's abalone? Why so anti sillyporean?
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asshole,when i anti sillyporean?
i just phew at those cheongsters who siat suay us singapore.
abalone - yr gf's damn smelly, just like yr smelly mouth!

[fabregas1981]

wat if the PRC gal didnt take $,n instead buy u gifts,treat u meals?will it be they fang chang xian,diao da yu?meaning they eyeing for us to marry them so they can get PR status?