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Old 25-02-2005, 01:31 PM
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Re: The New HC Business Proposal

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Bro. Ahkong,
Thank you again for your inputs. Yes,putting a good plan togather is one thing but to get genuine investors to put their $$ in and trust you is a tougher hurdle but not impossible. I have some experiences with VC too and I don't get a good impression of them. From your threads I guess you must be running your own business or at least some form of JV? Mind to share your experiences with us....its interesting and I'm sure we can all learn something here.
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Ist of all I m AHGONG(the stupid one) not AHKONG(The senior) later humtang by him...hehehe....

U r right. I m having my own Biz currently. I guess since u have experience with VC u know how they work. As for sharing the info...I'm fine but have to wait for April becos I'm all packed for Mar. It was noce to see some bros here developing interest into Biz...dats why I kapo kapo...

Banana,
U still here huh? I tot u leave liao....u got money to invest in Bro Zack project or not? Or u have any rich man lobang?hehehe[/QUOTE]
Bro. Ahgong,
I apologsie for getting your nick wrong. Can we then count on you as our regular customer if we got started? Yeh, nice to know bros. have interest in buz., not just politics and sex. Hope that this thread will give them some idea as to what is involve in getting a business started. Not easy and plenty of hard works and tears. You are more than welcome to kay poh...ke,ke Just gives us your 2 cents worth.
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Old 25-02-2005, 01:42 PM
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Re: The New HC Business Proposal

Wow Brother,

Good effort made there.... But something is still missing. What happen if the av come? Who will be the "dua pei kong"?

Also not forgetting the fines that they business had to pay?

Unless this joint will be super clean one, shouldn't be any problem right?

My two cent contribution.
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Old 25-02-2005, 01:51 PM
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Re: The New HC Business Proposal

Bro Zack,

Interesting project u've gt here ....

If the confidence is there 4 u .. forget bout the VCs (it's really nt easy) try pte investors instead ... finalise ur plans n get all the actions going .....

just a note :

try to keep ur initial mgmt team as small as possible .... sometimes too many heads complicate matters n TIME is really very impt .....

Gd luck on ur new venture!!
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Old 25-02-2005, 02:54 PM
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No no, I'm sorry to disappoint you, but training is always done by HR in any organisation... heh....

QC is responsible for checking the quality of the final product. If you provide training in the process, then you are more QA - Quality Assurance - than QC....
imom, please read my post again... I am not responsible for training... that is the job of the Training Director.

My main responsibity is to ensure that the quality of the final product after undergoing full training is up to the stringent standards prescibed by our Mr Chairman, Zack Tan.

Swee boh, Zack? ( please take note that that I address you as Mr Chairman since you accused me of "pulling rank").
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Old 25-02-2005, 03:36 PM
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Wow quite alot of development in one morning, posts wise, but the project's still stagnant heh...

You guys should have heard of the Aussie brothel giant that got listed? Not sure if Singapore allows, but i've always thought the fastest and sure win way to make money is to take over the brothels in Geylang and house them under one giant entity, much like how Hotel 81 is taking over the hotel chains one by one.
Just for your info, in case you are not aware, Fragrance Hotel is going for listing or is it already listed?....sort of a licensed "bothel" since it specialises in transit guests much like Hotel 81 although smaller in no. of hotels.
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Old 25-02-2005, 03:39 PM
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Re: The New HC Business Proposal

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...please read my post again... I am not responsible for training...
Aiyoh, long and/or unclear sentences are the bane of any QC manual.... But I guess you do not need much of a checklist for this sort of QC!

Anyway, why did you say 'sorry' then if you hadn't intended to usurp the training privileges? I must have misunderstood you somewhere....
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Old 25-02-2005, 04:05 PM
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Re: The New HC Business Proposal

Your HC must be different from the rest. Otherwise, its just another HC.

Make your HC into SM style and your gals are towards S&M. One room could have rings on the walls to tie the hands, another room could have ropes secure to the beds to tie hands and legs, another room with equipment to tie and stretch the body for tingling, another with concrete floor for peeing session. There must also be large size ladies high heel shoe available for the client to wear of they are into cross dressing. Other accessories avaliable for rental includes nipple clips, cock rings, vibrators, etc etc. Each room to be equipped with TV (like Hotel 81) for clients to bring their CD. So its basically a S&M HC.

Guarantee I be the first customer to try.

Last but not least, it also depends whether such S&M equipment is approved by the authority. Otherwise, you will be burning cock standing unable to escape should there be a fire.
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Old 25-02-2005, 04:15 PM
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Re: The New HC Business Proposal

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....Make your HC into SM style and your gals are towards S&M....
This is a concept I discussed with a buddy a long time back... cos it's one of the few types of adult entertainment which has not made its way to Sillypore... Around asia, Japan is the frontrunner. There are limited number of establishments in HK and Thailand, but zilch in S'pore...

I suspect the stumbling block lies with the authorities, cos I know that locally, demand greatly outstrips supply so that can't be the problem. Seeing that even oral sex is 'illegal', what more restraints, whips, spanking benches, St Andrew crosses....
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Old 25-02-2005, 04:29 PM
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Your HC must be different from the rest. Otherwise, its just another HC.

Make your HC into SM style and your gals are towards S&M.

Guarantee I be the first customer to try.

Last but not least, it also depends whether such S&M equipment is approved by the authority. Otherwise, you will be burning cock standing unable to escape should there be a fire.
nove, great idea but guaranteed not approved by the relevant authorities in sqeaky clean Sg which as you know relaxes its rules only gradually and with conditions attached e.g. bar-top dancing... no G-strings allowed, must wear shorts under the mini-skirts,etc

Dream on if you think the authorities will even consider approving such a radical theme when they are taking such a long time in the great casino debate... endless rounds of consultations with the public, religious organisations,etc before the proposal is even mooted in Parlaiment.
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I suspect the stumbling block lies with the authorities, cos I know that locally, demand greatly outstrips supply so that can't be the problem. Seeing that even oral sex is 'illegal', what more restraints, whips, spanking benches, St Andrew crosses....
Hey, imom... both of us are on the same wavelength and in sync...see my post regarding this S&M theme at almost the same time as your post....great minds think alike... ok... we stop fighting and both us alternate on testing the gals to ensure that they are the best in Sg, Johore and Batam.

Ok, agreed?

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Re: The New HC Business Proposal

Nice work bro Zack. But we will need to work out the maths. If any bros out there are accountants, perhaps we can work out how long will the HC breakeven.

I believe that there should be a few private/angel investors at least. HCs are good business in Singapore due to the high demand, which is why a good but discreet location is vital. Any suggestions on that?
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Re: The New HC Business Proposal

I want to be the recuritment manager...can test out the gals first
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...I believe that there should be a few private/angel investors at least. HCs are good business in Singapore due to the high demand, which is why a good but discreet location is vital. Any suggestions on that?
the perfect location is BATAM.
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Re: The New HC Business Proposal

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Bro. Banana,
Your role depends on what you can bring to the big table mah. If you like you can be the driving force for this business. How about it?...ke,ke.
sure! let me know how i can contribute.

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I kinda like your helicopter viewings and your ability to see the bigger picture. You are a good analyst but dun't mind me saying this but you tend to think too much and because of this, you are not an action man...you know what I mean. I could be wrong but some time I like to read the personality behind the nick. This is not a criticism of you but just to digress away from the topic a bit which could be a little dry for some people...ke,ke.
thank you, i like ur comments. actually i m a person that walk the walk, talk the talk. yes i think a lot and i do alot too. if u see me in action, i m worried u will be scare. i like to do mission impossible things to prove my ability. if tasks other ppl can perform i m not interested. i have proven track record.

business i m in, IT business, fruit wholesaler, fish farm, offset printing, CD replication and some more businesses cannot post over here.

upcoming plan, opening a pig farm, opening 10 franchise offices in china and some retail stores in SG.

give me a task that everybody say cannot be done. if i accept it i will accomplish it. if i fail all of u can throw banana skins at me.

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BTW I think you will make a excellent consultant. Will reward you amplely if project takes off the ground.
sure! everybody like reward. how about free enterance everyday?
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Bro. Ahkong,
Thank you again for your inputs. Yes,putting a good plan togather is one thing but to get genuine investors to put their $$ in and trust you is a tougher hurdle but not impossible. I have some experiences with VC too and I don't get a good impression of them...
actually getting money from VC is not difficult. most of us do no write business plan in their line of thoughts. to get ur business plan attracted to them, is not the dollar and sign nor how good ur projection is.

5 impt things VC look for in the business proposal:

1. usually VC first thing first is the management team. the ppl invloved in the business. the key people, their background, their experiences, etc... how well have the team can work together and how long have they work together.

example, if u submit business plan with a team that u assemble thru this website, i can tell u the chances are -100. but if ur team got ppl that have been in this trade for many yrs, and have been working together for many yrs and what the ppl have accomplish as a team. chances are VC will look into it. the PEOPLE that form the TEAM is veri impt.

2. next u go into the business opportunity. why u want to be in this business. as ah-gong mention USP (unique selling preposition). why is ur business differentiate from others. what is the core thing u r selling? is it a product, service, promixty, experience, emotional attachment, etc

3. cashflow. how the money will come in. how the fund be used, at which stage, etc. how u gonna manage the cashflow which is the lifeline of the business.

4. ROI. what the investor gonna get? is the company gonna be listed? gonna sell the company once established? what are the benefits and rewards?

5. Backup plan. what are the risks involved. if plan failed waht is ur contigency plan. as i said previously, pump in more money, cut loses by making an immediate exit or execute plan B?



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Banana,
U still here huh? I tot u leave liao....u got money to invest in Bro Zack project or not? Or u have any rich man lobang?hehehe
money no problem. the right ppl executing the plan is the most impt factor. i still here. left but my gal miss me so ask me to cum back. guess will be staying here till march, till i settle my gal.
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