FL Trends...

[cock21]

Yeah, prices have definitely gone up. I remember the days when super-hot minahs could be had for $80. Now OKTs are asking for $120-$130 for minahs with looks ratings of 6-7. I guess somewhere along the way, SBF had spoiled the market. A potential WL need only log in here, check out the prices bros are willing to fork out, and then price themselves accordingly.
But at the end of the day, it's all about supply and demand. If some idiot Robert Carrot-head has the cash to splash on $150-per shot Thai girls, then very soon the market will follow suit, and $150/1 shot will start to be the norm already.
THat's what's happening to oil prices these days.....unjustified increases, but increasing all the same..........sigh

[RollingGoodX]

Originally Posted by goodpartner

BTW, maybe it's new to me, but it seems some OKT are making polls (votes) on their stocks (with pics, and hopefully videos) even BEFORE they are brought to sillypore. That's a nice twist to make everybody happy I thought.

- Cheongsters will be happy, becoz they'll get what they voted.
- WLs will be happy becoz with high votes, the demand will be there.
- OKTs will be happy too - no more bringing in stocks with low demand have have to worry for the gals.

That's just on looks & stats; the OKTs still need to ensure service quality.

What do you think?

I fully agree with bro goodpartner more should be done for us customers which in turn will benefit WLs/FLs OKTs with more repeat customers.

Let me quote a simple anology... suppose on the streets, what makes most guys take a second glance at any gals? I suppose some would say looks, some may say figure, while others like me will say combination of physical factors (e.g. for me, looks, legs, min big B or at least C boobs, the rest are bonuses) but still no doubt, first physical impression counts for we do not know the gals characters or in FLs case, their services (putting frs aside as diff ppl have diff experience, e.g. no chemistry as it take 2 hands to clap and that it usually helps if the customer is physically attracted to the fl in the first place).

Would any of us or most of us take a second look if physical attributes do not attract in the first place much less able to get our little bro to be excited enough even if they strip naked in front of us? I know I won't or can't even if the fl tries her best and has good service attitude (not to say service and attitude not important but the first criteria must be met which is physical attraction before anything else matters).

Taking my anology a little further, for those who have gals that express interest in you but you do not return favour for reason such as their physical attributes or rather lack of it and in some cases complete turn-offs, do you accept free f*ck from them (qn does not applies to desperado)? Hell no for me!!! What's more paying $ for such f*cks as in the case when fl turn out to be, to use a milder politically correct word, "mis-matched" with photos!!!

Hope peeps get my driff...

I know individuals have different preferences and thus one man's meat is another man's poison and thus is subjective to individuals which is precisely why even more so that accurate undoctored pictures and stats are a must for individuals to make their own informed choices based on their own preferences.

Unless one is sperm bank, otherwise quality f*ck is better than quantity f*ck, don't you agree?

Since this thread mentioned about trend, I hope to see further evolution to include:

1. Live pics of not just close-up face but full length shots to show figure or even better naked

2. If live pics not available, studio pics should not alter features, figure and skin tone.

3. Accurate stats.

4. Video would top it!

5. Polls are welcome but the above must be available to make an informed choice.

At the end of the day, all businesses are really about proper management of customer expectation (customer getting what they were were made to believe and expect in the first place they agree to any deal). Since pricing is subjective to customer expection and budget, when proper expection were made to customer and delivered as it is, pricing becomes secondary. In such cases, one could still be a very happy customer regardless of the money spent. Over-promise and under delivering would definately drive away repeat customer.

Maybe someone can start a poll on similar topics which should be beneficial to customers as well as OKT who can use it as a form of feedback to improve.

My 2 shots worth

[JediSkull]

Originally Posted by Wbmk

I agree with Norikasan55.

I have a few OKTs in my contacts, besides Frank. I do not book his gals all the time, especially lately. BUT what I like abt him is that he really takes care of the girls in his stable. His rates are reasonable, his gals so far havent let me down, he knows my taste and recommends honestly, he is sincere and even gives me advice when I'm having my down days.

I'm not here to lick Frank's boots, or be a brown-noser...but what I state here are facts, and I do not mind paying as long as the gals get a good share of the rates.

Yes, our money is hard-earned and asking for discounts from OKTs, or even stores when u shop, is perfectly normal. But also remember that OKTs are "CEOs" in their own right. They too wanna make business, like we ALL do.

In my honest opinion, if you cannot afford to pay for the services...take it somewhere else. Its just like, if you can't afford a Tall Iced Mocha...go to a kopitiam and get urself a kopi peng. No one is forcing you to book anyone's gals. You know your own financial limitations, take control. Like you said, brother dishonest_okt, we are not stupid men. We pay for the services, because we can/want to.

Peace out.

ur avatar is hebe from frank!~!~ i had a tarma session wif hebe and heidi quite sometime back!~!~ one of those memorable bonks!~!~ heidi did CIM in the end of the 4 shots, hebe went into orgasm a couple of times!~!~ wah liew!~!~ its amazing when ur full body is in motion.......... i remember heidi was riding me and caressing my legs, while hebe frenched me, one of my hands was groping her breasts while another hand was fingering her..... she got so onz that she was fcuking my hand more than i was fingering her!!! then she went into orgasm and my hand felt her contractions while heidi also went into orgasm mins after hebe had hers!!! OH MAN!!! THOSE WERE THE GOOD OLD DAYS!~~I think I did not really write a FR in detail for that tarma but it was definitely a good session!

[okietokie]

Hi Bros !!!
I hope to share my 2 cents worth but it seems that i share the same sentiment like Bro RollingGoodX & Goodpartner.

As a overall, i believe i am very junior compared to you all be i had my bad times which i feel damn sucks and at the end i felt cheated.

IMHO, all OKT also trying to make a living and at the same time they would hope to keep a pool of regulars and if possible, to increase the accounts and contacts. But sadly, there are some out there to cheat as there are always black sheep among the good ones which is up to us to decide liao.

What i believe most is the quality service provided by the WL with some additional factors to consider:
1) Picture accuracy - at times, its a "SKY to GROUND" difference which the OKT did not update or the FLASH using while taking the photo is tooooo bright which make the WL looks FAIR and attractive which eventually turn us off after the door opens.
2) Health issue - Understand GL business is safeguard with regular health check to ensure no disease is within the package. Can the OKT implement sometime to promote its safety ??? It would be value added service as a overall.
3) Features and service of the FL - I am very sure its major turn off if the FL dun provide a certain service such as Frenching, showering etc to you or her Boobs is a BIG implant. OKT can or if possible try to state it clearly as it would affect the reputation and trust from its customer as such the OKT could sometime QC QC before sending them over.
4) Dollar and Cent Factor - In Sillypore, we are all surronded by $$$$ anything also $$$ and inorder to keep competitive in the market, it would be up to the OKT to crack their brain on Marketing Such as Promotion etc .... but i believe, if the service and quality is tip top .... most of us wont mind paying.
5) FRs - I have somehow observe and i believe some FRs are kinda fake and ungeniue but it would be up to individual to take the risk, to believe and engage the service.

I feel sorry for Dishonest_OKT as i believe he may have experience some bad ones which i empathise the feeling as i too kena twice before which the feeling sucks big time but still i honor the transaction which i paid and go off .....

I apologies if in any area i repeated the same pointers from RollingGood X bro.

Cheers .....

Okietokie

[RollingGoodX]

Bro okietokie, thanks for upping me. I'm as much a junior here and thus still learning from seniors and finding my way to great bonks.

I like your point on health issues too cos recently had a scare when some bros posted they contracted gonorrhoea from a popular fl whom I had a session with but luckily for me I was tested negative.

Side track a bit... DSC doc who is quite pretty for a doc told me there is lesser chance of getting gonorrhoea from bbbj and paint job than fj which may have explained my lucky encounter because I did not do fj with her as she turns out to be not my type and thus could not get my bro up for it. Maybe the 2 bros who got it could have alternated from fj to bj then to bbbj or cd broke or whatever reason or even from elsewhere no one can confirm. I must add though I won't fault her as her service and attitude was as good as reported in many good frs and also won't fault okt as I picked her based on good frs rather than pic though pic look much better. The positive experience I got out of this encounter is I learn what works for me in future bonks, that is first and foremost at the very least wyswyg (what you see is what you get) from pic.

Ok back to the point when expectation are not met, it would really not have been worth it if contracted STDs/HIV from such case. Double whammy or triple whammy if taking into account $ spent. Since we are going to spend our hard earned money and never ever going to fully eliminate STDs/HIV risks, I would like to think that at the very least we deserved is wyswyg. (Note: not to say that it is worth it to get STDs/HIV no matter great a bonk but since it is a risk chiongsters have to take otherwise better stay at hm with wife/gf or ppc but temptation is always hard to resist isn't.)

Nevertheless, it would really be good to have this kind of assurance from OKTs here that they are doing their part to bring in safer bonks to up the competition against legal houses. If they can do it why not we attitude much like another anology between authorised car agents vs pi as it is no longer the case when only authorised car agents is the way to go. PI has since upped the competition and increasing their market share.

However, to be fair to OKTs here, there are always 2 sides to a coin. Certain suggestion may not be easy to implement or idealistic as well as certain incidents are not within their control for we do not know their business model e.g. studio pics provided by OKT main contacts instead of OKT, etc? This is why I think 2-way feedback and communication is very important. If customer don't feedback, OKTs won't know. If OKTs don't explain, customers won't understand. Thus we customer would probably keep hoping for things that will never happen if we do not know the other side of OKT's difficulty which bring us back to my point about managing customer expection.

[okietokie]

Hi Bro Rolling,

I agree with what you have commented and hopefully the OKTs can take this few feedback as a constructive pointers.
It maybe a tall order but i suppose all bros would agree on the pointers that are list out.

Well it is always a risk to take while just selecting from the studio shoot but it would be ideal to have a studio shoot and a live shoot posted for us to guage. HEHEHEHEEHE hope it isnt too much to ask ..... hahahahaha

BTW its very horrifying to know that someone you bonk has XXXXXXX which may leave us with sleepless nights and stress ......

I too believe the OKTs have their own difficulties which is in slience and discreet.



Cheers !!!!!!

[Sayangku]

Originally Posted by goodpartner

Prices went up, BUT so is the quality and choices......

Not sure about the quality... and the services..... I still prefer my first 3 months of bonkings, new experiences and thrills. Now feels that the FLs are not as hard working as the old ones or maybe it's me, haha....

Still waiting for an FL to rekindle my sparks man, haizzzz......

How i miss Shirley... sob.... sob....

[goodpartner]

Originally Posted by cock21

Yeah, prices have definitely gone up. I remember the days when super-hot minahs could be had for $80. Now OKTs are asking for $120-$130 for minahs with looks ratings of 6-7. I guess somewhere along the way, SBF had spoiled the market. A potential WL need only log in here, check out the prices bros are willing to fork out, and then price themselves accordingly.
But at the end of the day, it's all about supply and demand. If some idiot Robert Carrot-head has the cash to splash on $150-per shot Thai girls, then very soon the market will follow suit, and $150/1 shot will start to be the norm already.
THat's what's happening to oil prices these days.....unjustified increases, but increasing all the same..........sigh

Supply and demand...

It can only mean one thing with the traffic trend of SBF below:


We need more supplies!!!

More OKTs, more FL-WLs, more competitions needed here!
(Sorry Frank, this is opposite of your observation that "Competition is stiff and fierce"... keke)

The demand is growing FASTER than the supplies, therefore we're seeing the trend up for price too!

Over the years, more and more carrot-heads got to know about SBF and came here.
Are the number of OKTs and FLs increasing too? I see the same old OKTs around, some went out of biz, and only few additions leh.

[beauthaiful]

Originally Posted by Sayangku

Not sure about the quality... and the services..... I still prefer my first 3 months of bonkings, new experiences and thrills. Now feels that the FLs are not as hard working as the old ones or maybe it's me, haha....

my tip and advice when chionging:

1) Treat every session as a brand new experience
2) Don't set a comparison. Every girl got their strengths and weaknesses.
3) Bonk happily!!! Treat the girl good, the girl will treat you better x 2

[okietokie]

Hi Beauthaiful,

I Agree with what you have stated on the 3 pointers but i was hoping to seek your opinion on the pointers which i have stated:

1) Picture accuracy - at times, its a "SKY to GROUND" difference which the OKT did not update or the FLASH using while taking the photo is tooooo bright which make the WL looks FAIR and attractive which eventually turn us off after the door opens.
2) Health issue - Understand GL business is safeguard with regular health check to ensure no disease is within the package. Can the OKT implement sometime to promote its safety ??? It would be value added service as a overall.
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I have realize you have post live pics and does it improve your business and advantage ????
Is it possible to send the FL for a screening before any action ???

I apologies for the inconvenience should you find it very difficult to answer these question but it would definately help newbies on better understanding which eventually help in your marketing and promoting ....

Maybe this thread can be used us a feedback to improve the standard so as to stay competitive since there is no means for us to vent or express our concern and feedback.

But nevertheless there are bound to have some out there to spoil it and be unrealistic ...... Hope i arent the one ...... Both nevertheless, All agent aka OKt would want RTF from regular and all Chongster would want to bonk with safe and shoik and happy ..... and not worrying or doubt ....
I believe all this are behind chongster mind .........

Pei Sia to have state all these and i appologise to all if i may be too blunt or offend someone.

Cheers

[goodpartner]

Yo bros! Time flies....
Trust all is cheonging well.

Been out of [sbf] actions for another looong while...So wassappening here?

Need to rejoin most of the yahoo groups again, and waiting for approvals. At the mean time, any kind bros/okts care to share with me what's the hottest recently? E.g. has that famous A4U model been back and I miss her?

Too many threads to read lah, need an "overall" update

p.s. got urge for v.slim figures lately...

[scott999]

Originally Posted by goodpartner

Been out of [sbf] actions for another looong while...So wassappening here?

Need to rejoin most of the yahoo groups again, and waiting for approvals. At the mean time, any kind bros/okts care to share with me what's the hottest recently? E.g. has that famous A4U model been back and I miss her?

Answer your most important question first.
The A4U chiobu has gone back, best to check with her okt to confirm.

For what's the hottest FL in town, maybe can refer to my 'Best Bonk of 2007' thread and use it as a guide.
Some samster's best 2007 bonks are back in town; updated in the thread.

Trends?
I think many events have happened in SBF for the last 365 days.

FL yahoo groups maybe up today, but gone tomorrow.
Some believe that there is sabotage from rivalry competition, some mentioned due media exposure of online pimps and prostitution dens have caused groups to be closed overnite.

More personal observation:

1) FL Price fluctuating quite rampantly for the past months ($89-$800+).
(Local, Thai, PRC, Korean inclusive)

Increase in Price for some and could be due to:-
a) Some service providers cited high cost as hotel room rates hikes.
b) Some customers cited certain service providers need to service bigger car loans, need to earn more and hence the fee hike.
c) Some service providers cited some FL talents cost more to import.

Decrease in price for some and could be due to:-
a) Bad FRs written and business went down. Service providers offer promotion price to win back customers.
b) Some new service providers offer cheaper FLs to 'break' in to the samster's market.
c) Some no change of pricing. Sticking to their winning formulae and loyal clientel.

2) Samster's Behaviour:-

a) I think inflation and all living cost constantly rising has driven some of us to be careful and prudent with our FL spending.
b) Many are seeking real 'live' pics instead of studio-taken ones.
c) Seasoned samsters no longer write FRs. Some samsters who write bad reviews, got zapped til -xxx and left the forum. While some like me, retired.
d) Rumours that there are FLs (who had sex-conversion) entered the SBF FL market. This got many samsters worried. Some curse, some sweared. Some still guessing the sex of the FL they bonked.

The above represents my view and my views only.
Before you decide to zap or upz, rep points mean nothing to me. (unless i can change them for NTUC or petrol vouchers)

And should any of you have views to share on FL Trends, pls do so.
But pen it in a neutral, non-biased and informative light in order to benefit fellow samsters here.

[raoulvii]

Originally Posted by scott999

2) Samster's Behaviour:-

a) I think inflation and all living cost constantly rising has driven some of us to be careful and prudent with our FL spending.
b) Many are seeking real 'live' pics instead of studio-taken ones.
c) Seasoned samsters no longer write FRs. Some samsters who write bad reviews, got zapped til -xxx and left the forum. While some like me, retired.
d) Rumours that there are FLs (who had sex-conversion) entered the SBF FL market. This got many samsters worried. Some curse, some sweared. Some still guessing the sex of the FL they bonked.

a) Inflation is one part but not the most important factor. The market is now bracing for a spiral downturn and being more prudent and selective in choices is better than anyhow choosing 1 $150 FL to bonk.

b) Why are many seeking real 'live' pics instead of studio-taken ones? Why not ask the OKT themselves to be a cheongster? How would they feel when they go inside the room and realised that the girl do not look like the studio picture? If the OKT cannot understand this simple thought from our consumer point of view, he is not even fit to be an OKT. We have been conned once too many.

c) Samsters write bad reviews doesn't mean its fake. The problem most of the time is when a true negative review is written, expect zaps. When write a good review which is not true, goes against conscience and machiam collaborating with the OKT to cheat others. Write for what then? All this is caused by OKTs themselves, not we don't want to write. They caused this problem.

d) The truth is, there is sex-converted ones being sold here. What can I say.........