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[VietnamLover]

Originally Posted by KangTuo

Seems to be the whole day...
Time i log in to try:
Fri: 9pm - 11pm
Sat: 9am - 2pm, 6pm - 8pm
Sun: 2pm - ??? (i am using M1 now)

I am also Starhub MaxOnline user and don't have much problem opening individual thread. Perhaps it is due to heavy traffic Starhub MaxOnline network.

[KangTuo]

Originally Posted by VietnamLover

Ah Sam was featured in Sunday New Paper about his illegal services in Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam. I am sure that some of you remembered many clones of nicks in Vietnam threads with his advertised vietnamtour website a few months ago. The electronic New Paper will be available a day after the date of published newspaper. I will post a link tomorrow.

Here is the news report:

The New Paper on Sunday Front Page:

S’POREAN’ OFFERS SEX TOURS TO VIETNAM OF WEBSITE

VIRGINS FOR $1,000

When told it’s illegal, he says… 2


REPORT: SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT
[email protected]


A “Singaporean” has been brazenly advertising sex tours in Vietnam through the internet. On his website, the man, who claims to be a Singaporean and calls himself Ah Sam, offered to arrange sex tours to Ho Chi Minh City.

He has even claimed he could provide virgin girls for sex, including thos under 18.

Ah Sam, 37, who is based in Ho Chi Minh City, promised his clients a “dream sex holiday” and included his Vietnam-registered handphone number, Yahoo! Messenger, Skype and MSN Web Messenger accounts.

The website also included photographs of some of the women, as well as supposed messages from former and potential clients.

Posing as a potential customer, a special correspondent for The New Paper on Sunday called Ah Sam on Tuesday to ask about his services. (See report on page 4)

Ah Sam, who declined to say if it is his real name, confirmed the services and the women available

He said he could offer our correspondent young girls whose virginity could be verified.

When the New Paper on Sunday later contacted him about his activities, he spoke freely about the sex tours, despite knowing that he was speaking to a journalist.

He said the women were at least 18 years old, though he had told our undercover correspondent earlier that some were 17.

[KangTuo]

Originally Posted by VietnamLover

Ah Sam was featured in Sunday New Paper about his illegal services in Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam.

Claimed to be surprised

He would be breaking Singapore law by providing such tours involving girls under 18.

“Are you sure,” he asked, though he insisted that the women involved were over this age.

“I thought I would not be guilty of an offence if I did it in Vietnam, not Singapore.”

It is an offence for any person to make travel arrangements for tours outside Singapore for commercial sex with minors under 18. It is punishable with up to 10 years imprisonment or a fine or both.

Under Singapore law, anyone caught having commercial sex with a minor under the age of 18 here or overseas can also be jailed up to seven years and fined.

Vietnam laws prohibit anyone from organizing or encouraging promotion (See other report.)

Ah Sam, who said he has lived in Vietnam for six years, claimed he returns to Singapore once every nine to 12 months, but he has never read news report about the illegal nature of such activities.

Ah Sam said he used to live in Tiong Bahru before moving to Vietnam in 2003 to work as a cook in his friend’s restaurant there.

He said he later quit the job and became a freelance tour guide.

Ah Sam, who said he is married to a Vietnamese woman and has two children aged 3 and 5, added: “When I offered ‘clean’ tours, I did not earn as much money. Many of my customers wanted sex tours, so I began to offer sex tours in 2007.”

He said he went into the sex tour business out of “interest” and claimed his wife knew what he did.

Ah Sam, who claimed to have four Vietnamese “bosses”, said he used to inform customers who signed up for sightseeing tours about the sex tours by e-mail, before setting up the website two months ago.

He said the women on the website mainly work in brothels and massage parlours, and some of them are women he met on the street.

He said:” I approach them and tell them that I want to recommend them to my sex tour clients. The women then tell me their rates and I try to negotiate fair rates. “Then I update my website accordingly. The oldest woman is about 25 and the youngest are between 18 and 19 years old.”

When asked how he verifies the ages of the women, particularly the younger ones, Ah Sam claimed he could tell “by looking” at them.

Ah Sam said he operates his seven-day-a-week business from his home in Ho Chi Minh City and each client who wants a sex your first pays an advance “intro fee” of 200,000 Vietnamese dong ($15)

He said: ”To pay my intro fee, each client first SMSes me his hotel and room number. Then he buys a 200,000 dong phone card and sends me the card’s 14-number password by SMS.

“After we process the client’s booking, I call the woman and tell her to go to the hotel room. The client pays her fee directly to the women.”

Ah Sam said he gets commissions of 50,000 dong per room if the client takes the women to rooms in any one of four hotels in Ho Chi Minh City he was familiar with.

He said: “I don’t get commissions from the other hotels in Ho Chi Minh City. If the client wants to cancel the order, he only needs to pay the woman 200,000 dong for her transport.

“At first, my wife was afraid I would be caught by the police, but I told her that everyone else (in Vietnam) is doing these tours too.”

Ah Sam admitted his activities are illegal in Vietnam but claimed to “know” the police who turn a blind eye to his activities.

He claimed to get about six calls daily from potential clients for his sex tours. About 20 per cent are Singaporeans.

The rest, he said come mainly from the US, Canada and Europe.

Ah Sam claimed he also advertised on Google.

When The New Paper did a Google search, there were at least two references to his website.

[KangTuo]

Originally Posted by VietnamLover

Ah Sam was featured in Sunday New Paper about his illegal services in Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam.

High Demand

He said: “I also have Malaysian, Indonesian and Arab clients. Eight out 10 people who call me say the want a sex tour.

“Of the number, two out of every 10 people say they want virgin girls.”

Ah Sam said his sex yours are done only within Ho Chi Minh City, but he still conducts sightseeing tours to various parts of Vietnam.

He said he earns about 20 million dong monthly from the sex tour business, compared with two million dong monthly when he used to conduct only sightseeing tours.

At the end of our interview, he said: “Maybe I will change the website and offer ‘clean’ tours from now on instead.”

When we checked Ah Sam’s website on Friday, it has been changed.

While his handphone number and on-line contacts remained, now it only advertised “special tours”.

The sexual references and the photographs of the women had also been removed.

[Thom07]

Originally Posted by jackbl

Since u already got her contact, u can meet her outside working hours.

Hehe. KT need someone to occupy himself with.

[KangTuo]

Originally Posted by Thom07

Hehe. KT need someone to occupy himself with.

yes...
else I will go crazy keep thinking of and waiting for the V3 gal to be free.

[Hurricane88]

Originally Posted by KangTuo

Any bro facing problem with STARHUB maxonline while surfing SBF yesterday and today?

Originally Posted by VietnamLover

I am also Starhub MaxOnline user and don't have much problem opening individual thread. Perhaps it is due to heavy traffic Starhub MaxOnline network.

This is a known problem...BOSS SAM said "cancel Starhub".

[Zaryl]

Originally Posted by vagrant

So with decent looking bros like Zaryl in our group, nobody bother us

Originally Posted by Hurricane88

Yes, sure Bro Zaryl looks decent, down to earth and studios...sure felt very safe with him around...

nothing to do with me lah...we all well behaved during the entire process...wonders if v.killers in our group would make special attention or not...

[Zaryl]

Originally Posted by KangTuo

Here is the news report:

The New Paper on Sunday Front Page:

wow, you really typed out the entire story... i dun need to buy New Paper liao...

[Zaryl]

Originally Posted by KangTuo

Good. Then next weekend can activate all bros to go a joint at boat quay area...V3

maybe this place may be oversupply with gals since all avoid G area...

[AdGuy]

Originally Posted by Zaryl

maybe this place may be oversupply with gals since all avoid G area...

Then I'm definitely putting my name in the hat too.

But very hard to say. Even while the operation was taking place, the even lorongs were still bustling with activities.

Btw, did anyone manage to finish the porridge?

[KangTuo]

Originally Posted by jackbl

Why not STATION@Golden Mile Tower??? Heard 4jugs @ $120.....from a thread.

Today not many gal to choose. Most cmi.
4 jugs $145 + mummy tips $30

This place is banned for time being. Told that there were about 30 gals during peak peroid. Now cny coming, many went back vn.

[KangTuo]

Originally Posted by Zaryl

maybe this place may be oversupply with gals since all avoid G area...

Maybe lack of supply. Everyone may think that no much gals in gl then all come here and outside gl to find gals.

[Zaryl]

Originally Posted by AdGuy

Then I'm definitely putting my name in the hat too.

But very hard to say. Even while the operation was taking place, the even lorongs were still bustling with activities.

Originally Posted by KangTuo

Maybe lack of supply. Everyone may think that no much gals in gl then all come here and outside gl to find gals.

no matter how KangTuo will still find reasons to visit this place...

Originally Posted by AdGuy

Btw, did anyone manage to finish the porridge?

we normally dun have leftover food...

[KangTuo]

Originally Posted by KangTuo

yes...
else I will go crazy keep thinking of and waiting for the V3 gal to be free.

I know I am being KC-ed BIG time.
Feeling damn moody, lousy and unbearable.

After she came back 2weeks ago, i can't eat or sleep good.