Bros, Dont spoil market

[piichai]

Originally Posted by nex_terday

Hope more newbies and even seniors read this thread.
Was invited to a telegram chat group. Suspected there were some operators within the group and they were passing off 80/100/150 as the norm, leading to many others to accept them. With so many accepting these rates, nothing will make the mls lower their rates.
I recall a few months ago, mls were asking +120 to 130 for fj. Biz was bad and they dropped to 100. Now they area asking 150 since many customers, for whatever reason- self-ego, stupidity, ignorance, are paying and willing to pay for what they perceived to be market rates.
On the other hand, there are hidden gems at 100 to 130 all in for massage and full service. Compared to 88 entry + 150.........Money is hard to earn!!!

I can vouch for that. I smelled a rat and my red flags are up. Infiltration

[Fed02]

The massage scene is boring these days... heavily photoshopped photos, ridiculous pricing, fake reviews...

[loneyheart]

Originally Posted by Fed02

The massage scene is boring these days... heavily photoshopped photos, ridiculous pricing, fake reviews...

Thxs bro upped u back 28 pts

[sadsea]

Originally Posted by Fed02

The massage scene is boring these days... heavily photoshopped photos, ridiculous pricing, fake reviews...

1000% agreed!.the vibes are so different also. With all these 88 gimmick. Last time got all type of ladies, syt, milf, slim, thick etc. now seen those thick big ass thick thigh good size breast milf very limited. With mostly 网红脸 slim ladies

[KangTuo]

Originally Posted by Fed02

The massage scene is boring these days... heavily photoshopped photos, ridiculous pricing, fake reviews...

forget about all the reviews in sbf. more and more advert threads. Reviews all comes with YMMV. Generally, i feel that good lobang are mostly kept and not shared. best but pocket hurting method is self exploration.

Pricing wise, I am ok with what the ML charges now and will not negotiate for $10 or $20 less as it spoils the mood. If too expensive, just once and bye bye.

[KangTuo]

Originally Posted by sadsea

1000% agreed!.the vibes are so different also. With all these 88 gimmick.

actually there are alot customer same as me who are ok with 88 entry. The 30 extra is just for peace, comfort and privacy. Anyway many 88 entry shops have promotion before certain timing. i.e. 78 or 68

I hate hearing customer talking loud beside while I am having a massage. This does not mean i don't go 58 entry curtain joint as these are the joint where most likely bbbj will be offered

really depends on the main course i want then i visit.

[nex_terday]

Originally Posted by KangTuo

actually there are alot customer same as me who are ok with 88 entry. The 30 extra is just for peace, comfort and privacy. Anyway many 88 entry shops have promotion before certain timing. i.e. 78 or 68

I hate hearing customer talking loud beside while I am having a massage. This does not mean i don't go 58 entry curtain joint as these are the joint where most likely bbbj will be offered

really depends on the main course i want then i visit.

agreed. The 50/55/58 curtain shops do not give you the peace and privacy so paying for one with room seems fair. But 88 is pushing it.
Issue is the range of extras paid- 50 to 100 for hj with roaming, 80 to 120 for bbbj, 100 to 250 for fj. Every ml asking for high tips will tell you their service is special and better than the others. Really???LOL

[cardfactory]

Actually when I first started as a newbie I also made the same 80/100/150 mistake. But when you are newbie and didnt have access to forums like this , we won't know what's the actual rate and will just pay the ML what she asks.

But after while you gain some experience and know that we are paying too much and you learn to say no or negotiate. Chiongsters will also negotiate cause every dollar counts. Save 30-40 dollars each session means can go extra session that month.

But the rates are generally increasing for both entry and tips but the standards are dropping.

[nex_terday]

Originally Posted by cardfactory

Actually when I first started as a newbie I also made the same 80/100/150 mistake. But when you are newbie and didnt have access to forums like this , we won't know what's the actual rate and will just pay the ML what she asks.

But after while you gain some experience and know that we are paying too much and you learn to say no or negotiate. Chiongsters will also negotiate cause every dollar counts. Save 30-40 dollars each session means can go extra session that month.

But the rates are generally increasing for both entry and tips but the standards are dropping.

up u 19. Please share with other newbies

[Adlih]

I ever frequent one ML until she moved to a 88 joint. I just feel that 88 is abit too much for something which i can get elsewhere for lower. My priority is to look for good massage at a reasonable price. The rest is a good to have. I believe our bros money are hard earned as well. ��

[anikisan]

Originally Posted by Adlih

I ever frequent one ML until she moved to a 88 joint. I just feel that 88 is abit too much for something which i can get elsewhere for lower. My priority is to look for good massage at a reasonable price. The rest is a good to have. I believe our bros money are hard earned as well. ��

Same here. I really hate it when you reject the ML's offer and then she black faced and rant rant rant and her massage service just drops suddenly and some even end earlier.