Priceing of MLs. Please stop spoiling market

[sladang]

Originally Posted by deathnitez

Heard of the fine and such ml have to pay at bmc area the reason I don't visit there cause they will charge higher there due to the bosses ridiculous rules. I know one ml left now at somewhere else where can have full service. And she is much happier.

The bosses are all PRC lady bosses rite? ..

[SadLoser]

Totally agreed. I have boycotted these 88 spas and their likes for a long time due to the ridiculous pricing and long/confusing menu.

For some spas, I think some MLs are also quoting $150 for fj. Plus entrance of $50+, total is $200+. For $200, I might as well go to GL prc legal house. You get a full 1hour bang session with solid service, no need to stress or hassle over all the top-ups etc.

And from my experience, most of the spas provide very restrictive services even if you opt for fj and they seldom will give you full 1 hr session.

So the best option is for go a clean massage (if you really need one) then proceed for a pure fuck session be it $60 Viet or $200 prc at GL.

Those 88 spas and $200+ fj are simply out to chop carrots.

Originally Posted by edwardgreene

I have since stopped going to massage places that provide extras. I think the prices are getting ridiculous. The overall mood is also dampened by the negotiation where it's a top up game.

I've now got membership with natureland and also for myself n ogawa massage chair. After natureland , I go to GL for either quickie with Thai or Viet. If time permits I go to my defacto PRC, on days that I want more adventure , I go to the FL Dome 3 section to get some viet syt or euro chic, now they even have Jap options.

Alot of satisfaction without haggling , menus and options are clear.

[SadLoser]

Originally Posted by Autumnsun

Not just that some spas require ML to pay for washing of sheets/towels. Funny right? Such "operation cost" also staff paying. So their salary basically went to paying of the fine/fee and house rent. Easy money for wicked new citizen bosses, opening unit after unit.
The market is so saturated now.

For example, BMC area has at least 5 spa. A block at JBM has 4 units, up the hill another 2 units. Another 3-5 around AV. At least 16 shops along a stretch of 5 bus stops.

I wonder how they survive as there are so many spas sprouting everywhere these days and their ridiculous have turned off many customers.

Of course there will be some white knights who insist on support this ridiculous pricing simply because they can afford it. But I am certain majority of customers are starting to boycott.

All the mls on my wechat are constantly complaining about no business and trying to entice patrons down to support them

Just let them be... see how long they can survive if everyday can catch only 2-3 goondus. They might chop more per customer, but the number of overall customers will dwindle greatly and no RTF.

[SadLoser]

Originally Posted by Autumnsun

Not just that some spas require ML to pay for washing of sheets/towels. Funny right? Such "operation cost" also staff paying. So their salary basically went to paying of the fine/fee and house rent. Easy money for wicked new citizen bosses, opening unit after unit.
The market is so saturated now.

For example, BMC area has at least 5 spa. A block at JBM has 4 units, up the hill another 2 units. Another 3-5 around AV. At least 16 shops along a stretch of 5 bus stops.

I wonder how they survive as there are so many spas sprouting everywhere these days and their ridiculous have turned off many customers.

Of course there will be some white knights who insist on support this ridiculous pricing simply because they can afford it. But I am certain majority of customers are starting to boycott.

All the mls on my wechat are constantly complaining about no business and trying to entice patrons down to support them

Just let them be... see how long they can survive if everyday can catch only 2-3 goondus. They might chop more per customer, but the number of overall customers will dwindle greatly and no RTF.

[deathnitez]

Originally Posted by SadLoser

I wonder how they survive as there are so many spas sprouting everywhere these days and their ridiculous have turned off many customers.

Of course there will be some white knights who insist on support this ridiculous pricing simply because they can afford it. But I am certain majority of customers are starting to boycott.

All the mls on my wechat are constantly complaining about no business and trying to entice patrons down to support them

Just let them be... see how long they can survive if everyday can catch only 2-3 goondus. They might chop more per customer, but the number of overall customers will dwindle greatly and no RTF.

Dulan is the month end need to push number. See liao damn funny.

[afterburn]

If biz is bad then they wouldn't be making return trips to work in SG. For sure, there are a lot of penalties and extra charges levied on the MLs by exploitative bosses. I have heard of a shop where the MLs only get 1 day-off a month and have to buy their own hours-off if they want to end work early to meet friends, run errands etc.

And yet..... despite all this abusive conditions, they still come and do the work. Which says a lot about economic conditions, prospects for them in prc or vietnam.

If they don't want exploitative condition and want protection under MOM rules, then they always have an option to work in legal fw jobs in f&b, cleaning, retail, etc. But they don't want - because ML job pays them more in terms of tips extracted from carrots. Versus the time & effort expended on the job. When there's no customer they can take a rest, play phone, sleep.

I know one ML who previously worked in f&b, food stall assistant, told me the work was back-breaking compared to spa work, keeping her on her feet throughout the day. And still earned less! It's no-brainer for her to go back to doing tuina, jerk off customers, 5-10 minutes can net her $50 or more.

[afterburn]

Originally Posted by deathnitez

Dulan is the month end need to push number. See liao damn funny.

Can someone tell them last day of the month just do a 50% tips discount promotion, sure can up the sales immediately, allowing them to hit their performance target that may earn them couple hundred dollars extra vs the tips discount that they forgo. Why never think one??

[Autumnsun]

Originally Posted by afterburn

Can someone tell them last day of the month just do a 50% tips discount promotion, sure can up the sales immediately, allowing them to hit their performance target that may earn them couple hundred dollars extra vs the tips discount that they forgo. Why never think one??

Like that blue shirt see just target this spa lo. Sure tohh

[Peacekeeping]

Originally Posted by afterburn

If biz is bad then they wouldn't be making return trips to work in SG. For sure, there are a lot of penalties and extra charges levied on the MLs by exploitative bosses. I have heard of a shop where the MLs only get 1 day-off a month and have to buy their own hours-off if they want to end work early to meet friends, run errands etc.

And yet..... despite all this abusive conditions, they still come and do the work. Which says a lot about economic conditions, prospects for them in prc or vietnam.

If they don't want exploitative condition and want protection under MOM rules, then they always have an option to work in legal fw jobs in f&b, cleaning, retail, etc. But they don't want - because ML job pays them more in terms of tips extracted from carrots. Versus the time & effort expended on the job. When there's no customer they can take a rest, play phone, sleep.

I know one ML who previously worked in f&b, food stall assistant, told me the work was back-breaking compared to spa work, keeping her on her feet throughout the day. And still earned less! It's no-brainer for her to go back to doing tuina, jerk off customers, 5-10 minutes can net her $50 or more.

Haha true. Their biz is bad but we men still have our needs. If their biz is truly bad, there won’t be so many $88 spa around.

[deathnitez]

Not much people actually expose to these threads most people dont know how the ml market work that's why a lot of foreigners or local goes this place they don't know about the cheaper alternatives.

[ice123456]

Originally Posted by deathnitez

Not much people actually expose to these threads most people dont know how the ml market work that's why a lot of foreigners or local goes this place they don't know about the cheaper alternatives.

Indeed. Time to expose 88$ scam

[ice123456]

Originally Posted by afterburn

Can someone tell them last day of the month just do a 50% tips discount promotion, sure can up the sales immediately, allowing them to hit their performance target that may earn them couple hundred dollars extra vs the tips discount that they forgo. Why never think one??

MLs are too lazy for that. They rather work less IMO

[chinacuntlover]

Originally Posted by SadLoser

For some spas, I think some MLs are also quoting $150 for fj. Plus entrance of $50+, total is $200+. For $200, I might as well go to GL prc legal house. You get a full 1hour bang session with solid service, no need to stress or hassle over all the top-ups etc.

So the best option is for go a clean massage (if you really need one) then proceed for a pure fuck session be it $60 Viet or $200 prc at GL.

Those 88 spas and $200+ fj are simply out to chop carrots.

Agree 100%. Another option is to ask GL WL to massage you.
I got 1 Viet to massage 25min after the job done

[Nekofear]

ML told me boss say 88 is confirm can massage pubic.
The other rates are like: body only, or body & leg only. While 88 are pubic place approved.

Of course there are some older joints that don't do this 88 pricelist. They still provide add on with standard entrance of 50 or 55 or 65

[sladang]

Originally Posted by Nekofear

ML told me boss say 88 is confirm can massage pubic.
The other rates are like: body only, or body & leg only. While 88 are pubic place approved.

Of course there are some older joints that don't do this 88 pricelist. They still provide add on with standard entrance of 50 or 55 or 65

Add another 50 for tier-1 happiness? ..