No more cheonging in JB

[Archiearch]

Well...it's just the knee jerk reaction...remember when the Taxi priced increase everyone kow beh kow bu, say wanna boycott lar, this lar, that lar,,,in the end people got use to it and still taking taxi what..same thing gonna happen here

[123easy]

Originally Posted by Goatslooter

Rm 16.5 is neglectable ! Only 6.5. Must wait till SG increase the toll to 6.5 and the VEP imposed by jb to b capped at 50 then they will feel the pinch?

Fully agree. And lets not forget about the proposed 6% GST in april next year.

[localbest]

Originally Posted by Ninja_Assassin

Many of those cars are owned by PRs working in S'pore and living in JB.... these are the people that contribute to the traffic congestion. .

Fully concurred with you.

The majority who raise up the cost of living in JB are sporean working in spore.

The majority who cause traffic jam in JB city bandaraya like jln wong ah fook are msian working in msia.

The majority who cause traffic jam at the causeway are msian (PR spore) working in spore.

Estimated 60,000 vehicles crossed the Johor Causeway daily.

8,000 are msian-registered vehicles while 52,000 were spore-registered cars who are driven by msian (spore PR)

Imagine a bus can accomodate up to 60 passengers (sitting+standing) travelling from JB to spore for work.

Lets say for example, on average, a msian who drive spore car sits 2 person. If the msians wanted to save cost and take the bus instead, the bus can accomodate up to 30 cars of 2 msian passenger.

That means to say in another words a public bus can replace 30 nos. of cars in accomodating the passengers. Just imagine how smooth the traffic will be if this happens.

Why in spore can control and handle traffic so well is because of many flyovers and basement tunnel and highways. On top of that, erp is also implemented to further reduced unnecessary traffic.

But the causeway if not mistaken has only about 6 lanes (3 for each direction), no flyover, no basement tunnel to divert traffic, no erp.

Therefore the only effective way is to raise up the Toll and VEP fees on both side to make driving a vehicle across the causeway expensive so that it will then be able to deter commuters from driving across the causeway unnecessarily.

Remember the period about 5-6 years ago when msia side have just completed their construction of their custom complex. At that time the exchange rate was not that high 2.3-2.4+ and not many iskandar properties are bought by sporean, less msian working in spore, the traffic at the city bandaraya especially jalan abdul rahman and jalan wong ah fook and also the causeway are not so jam like now.

But now you see on a weekend especially sunday night when you want to take a cab or drive to the CIQ complex via bukit chagar, the traffic jam was extremsly long. Think at least take an hour to reach the CIQ complex. This has never happen 2-3 years ago.

Originally Posted by Ninja_Assassin

Cheongsters are not bothered by the increase as they do not enter JB daily and the amount is so insignificant to them compared to what they spend..... increase or no increase they will still go to cheong.

There are 2 types of cheongsters who cheong in JB.

One type is a retiree in his 60s or 50s if he is lucky to have save early enough. They have the financial ability to drive and cheong in JB at lease once a week if not twice.(samster like bro Goat for example )

They are unlikely to be bothered by the tol/vep increase as they have already set aside the money for retirement enjoyment as they had already planned long time ago.

The second type will be a working cheongsters who have the steady income to spend. If they are more well off, they will most likely drive-in but should they have a limited salary, then budget cheong will then applies.

But sometimes the big head can be controlled by the small head when the urge arises.

Budget cheong means you take bus/mrt to jb, upon reaching JB take bus or taxi to the desire joint, spend stingily but overall enjoy more than what he could enjoy in spore.

[localbest]

Originally Posted by 123easy

Was in on sat and sun. Looks like sinkies are beginning to get used to the increase and the crowd us beginning to go in

Originally Posted by Archiearch

Well...it's just the knee jerk reaction...remember when the Taxi priced increase everyone kow beh kow bu, say wanna boycott lar, this lar, that lar,,,in the end people got use to it and still taking taxi what..same thing gonna happen here

Originally Posted by 123easy

Fully agree. And lets not forget about the proposed 6% GST in april next year.

From time to time, JB has many of its policy changed and often gives its neighbour a surprise.

For example is the change of its rest day from sat/sun to friday/saturday in early this year 2014.

This was implemented following the recommendation by the johor sultan to the johor state govt.

Johor is following perlis, kelantan & trengganu to have its rest day on every friday/saturday while the rest of the msian states still have the same rest day like spore which is sat/sun.

The sudden change of rest day more or less has affected or disrupted some import/export business between spore & msia.

Working day becomes rest day and rest day become working day. Remember must put parking coupon in car on sunday instead of friday

For the past 2 decades johor rest day has been the same as spore and enjoy the many similarities in operation hours of business and govt offices.

Johor bahru which is a gateway to international tourist are known to be a mini "global city" where there are a sizable foreign investment.

However the change of rest day may not provide advantage to its development but may have an impact to its economy.

[localbest]

Latest news reported that spore side has announced that the toll charge will increase from $1.20 to $6.50 = rm16.50 to match with msia side of toll rm16.50 on the 1st October 2014.

That means any car (regardless spore or msia registered) will have to pay the toll fee of rm33 in total excluding VEP charges on a return journey. This is in fact a wise move by both govt to control the traffic condition at the causeway.

Since spore on 1st august has raised the VEP fee for msia car from $20 to $35 = rm90, msia side should consider to implement VEP for spore car at the fee of rm90 instead of rm50 suggested earlier so that the VEP fee could match for both countries. It is important to equalise the toll and vep fees on both sides.

At present there may be some spore cars travel to other parts of msia for many days or weeks thus contributing to the traffic congestion of that areas.

Msia should also follow what spore is doing to charge the vep fee on spore cars on a per day basis and not per entry basis. This will regulate, control and reduce the number of spore cars entering into JB and other parts of msia.

As a result of less spore car entering msia, not only the causeway will be less congested, even in JB, melaka, KL roads will be less jam as well.

Spore side is charging VEP for msia motorbike at $4=rm10. Msia side should also do the same and charge spore motorbike at rm 10 per day to match the fee on both side. Hope msia side do not wait till end of year to implement the vep but to implement as soon as possible so that traffic at jb town and causeway can be improved.

Actually among all the vehicles crossing the causeway, cars and motorbike make up the majority. if the numbers of both of these vehicles are reduced, then travelling across the causeway will be a breeze for the benefit of all commuters...

[Twiddledum]

This also means relative increase in cost in all produce imported across the cause way. Dont know why you are so happy over something that will mean things get more expensive in sg. Frankly i would rather have the jam.

[localbest]

No doubt logistics costs for transporting goods to spore will be slightly higher, consumers can always have the options to purchase goods that are imported from other country or locally manufacture products.

Not all vendors in msia will raise the cost of goods as they might lose their business by doing so as there are always many other sources available.

Just imagine if someone travel in a car across the causeway and suddenly in the event of an emergency and happen that the causeway was badly jam, then the consequences will be very terrible.....

Therefore, it is important to keep the causeway traffic smooth unlike other highway still have other alternative route to use.

[localbest]

Another bad news just happen on 14 sept 2014

A Malaysia Airlines flight MH198 from Kuala Lumpur to Hyderabad in India was forced to turn around due to an auto-pilot defect...

[KatoeyLover69]

Report from The STAR (Malaysia) dated 24 September 2014 :-

JB SMEs hit by new toll rates

JOHOR BARU: It has only been over a month since Malaysia introduced the new toll rates and businesses are starting to feel the pinch.

Malaysian Small and Medium Enterprise (SME) association chairman Teh Kee Sin said there had been complaints from members that they had suffered a 20% to 30% drop in business, mainly in the logistics, advertising, entertainment, retail sectors and those involved in the hairstyling business.

“The full extent of the situation will be known after Singa­pore also increases its toll rates beginning Oct 1,” he said, adding that this would have a snowball effect on all businesses in Johor.

He added that the SMEs were appealing to leaders in Singapore and Malaysia to sit down and resolve this issue.

“The impact is already being felt. I used to charter private cars to and from Changi airport, which cost me RM200. Now the price has doubled,” Teh told reporters at a press conference here yesterday.

He added that the association was collecting signatures and would be sending a letter to the leaders, including Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak and Johor Mentri Besar Datuk Mohamed Khaled, to look into this issue.

He added that besides SMEs, the toll hikes would also affect the middle income group and those working in Singapore.

“We are against any barriers that will impede the movement of people and goods between both countries,” Teh said, adding that the hikes would also hurt the country’s business competitiveness as the increased prices would be passed on to consumers.

Businessman K. Nakanathan, 54, who has eight outlets selling spices in hypermarkets and wet markets, has recorded a drop of at least 50% in Singaporean customers.

“My customers used to come at least four times a month. Now they come only once,” he said.

Tee Yen Chong, who is involved in the forwarding business, said that the cost of sending goods between the countries had increased by about 30%.

“Transport charges for lorries plying the Johor Baru and Singapore routes have increased from RM500 to about RM630. We expect it to go up by another RM50 when Singa­pore starts imposing new charges on Oct 1,” he added.

Singapore’s Land Transport Authority (LTA) announced its new toll rates after Malaysia imposed its new toll rates at the Customs, Immigration and Quarantine (CIQ) Complex in Bangunan Sultan Iskandar on Aug 1.

The rates are RM9.70 and RM6.80 for inbound and outbound cars respectively. Singapore’s new toll rate for cars will see an increase from S$1.20 to S$3.80 (RM3.03 to RM9.62).
------ KatoeyNewsNetwork

[blacksocks]

less people going to spas and mps these days.

[KatoeyLover69]

Originally Posted by blacksocks

less people going to spas and mps these days.

That's the BEST GREAT NEWS of the day !!!

Less people mean less waiting time, "ang pais" easily available, prices also will surely drop !!!

[Antispyware]

Its a matter of time to get use with it. If happens that the Ringgit will depreciate deeply, I believe all regular samster bros will return in short period.

[ShadowRiders]

Originally Posted by Antispyware

Its a matter of time to get use with it. If happens that the Ringgit will depreciate deeply, I believe all regular samster bros will return in short period.

Today is the 1st day of the toll. The traffic situation is the same. Seems like the toll is not effective in serving its purpose. If it continues like today then they may have to raise it to RM1000 to have any effect.

[Goatslooter]

Rm 16.5+S$6.5 is not powerful to frighten away SG car from entering into JB, so next step JB will increase the VEP from Rm 50 to Rm90 to match S$35.
We shall then see the impact? If still not successful! its shown that all Car owners are very rich, they still can afford it. I can foresee there will be still jams at the causeway at the peak periods.

[rav.evc]

Originally Posted by Goatslooter

Rm 16.5+S$6.5 is not powerful to frighten away SG car from entering into JB, so next step JB will increase the VEP from Rm 50 to Rm90 to match S$35.
We shall then see the impact? If still not successful! its shown that all Car owners are very rich, they still can afford it. I can foresee there will be still jams at the causeway at the peak periods.

i agreed with u. still jam.
the only thing is jam for how long only. 20min? or 40min? average.
After the Msia VEP take place hope the officer also speed up their work. stamp faster.