Tieng Viet lovers club

[forgotoldnick]

Originally Posted by vietboy

troi oi, my TV not as good as yurs. So my wife have to ask her in TV, then translate to me, when i have qns i ask my wife, then she translate to her. got it?

Wah, complicated THreesome, lol

[jackbl]

Originally Posted by vietboy

yes, i have seen a viet that dun know how to read and write TV. End up me and my wife have to translate and write for her. i'm serious.

Originally Posted by KangTuo

translate?

Originally Posted by vietboy

troi oi, my TV not as good as yurs. So my wife have to ask her in TV, then translate to me, when i have qns i ask my wife, then she translate to her. got it?

Your saying is really no head no tail. If that person cant read and write TV, then why need you to help? Your bx cant read and write for her?

After KT asked u what translate, then u say your bx help u to translate between you and her talking, those are Conversational TV, what have to do with "read and write TV"?

[jackbl]

Hell’s kitchen
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Factory workers are served cheap, deadly meals by employers who are apathetic, seek to cut costs, or are on the take from caterers

Le Chi Cuong was lucky: he detected the maggots in his food before eating it during his factory lunch break on August 17.

But by the time the 46-year-old worker reported this to his supervisors at the Cu Bi Rubber Plant in Ba Ria-Vung Tau Province, 13 other workers had eaten the food supplied by caterer Dung Ha Company.

They did not know if there had been maggots in the food.

The plant immediately took back the food served to 109 other workers and found maggots in nine people’s braised pork.

Tieu Van Linh, head of the provincial Food Safety and Hygiene Agency, told Vietweek that the caterer did not make an honest report to his agency when submitting the requisite food sample for testing that day.

Caterers must store samples of the food they provide for 24 hours, in order to have them tested, in case of food poisoning or similar incidents. Tests upon food samples may also be conducted upon demand, by either related agencies, or the catering company itself.

In this case, the Cu Bi Rubber Plant requested their food be tested without mentioning workers’ reports of maggots, as if the company was just making sure there was nothing wrong with the food.

“They only asked us to test for microorganisms without mentioning maggots, which are insect larvae and not a microorganism,” he said.

Linh said his agency does not test for microorganisms and had sent the samples to the preventive health center for testing and was awaiting the results.

“The plant should have reported that there were maggots in food. Then we would have conducted a full inspection instead of forwarding the samples to the other agency to test for microorganisms,” he said.

Many similar incidents have been reported by the media in the past few months. Some workers reported seeing maggots in their food, though it could have been worse. Maggots, unlike microorganisms, are at least visible to the naked eye.

On August 25 the Suoi Tre Rubber General Hospital in Dong Nai Province admitted 58 workers from the nearby Dau Giay Rubber Plant suffering from symptoms of food poisoning.

Dr. Do Cao Khai said the workers became dizzy and had stomachaches after eating the lunches provided by the company.

Their symptoms worsened at around 5 pm and they had to be taken to the hospital. All had been discharged by the following day.

The health of factory workers and manual laborers is at grave risk since many are being fed tainted food due to lax government oversight and corruption at the company level, with caterers having to pay bribes to win contracts.

Poisonous meals

A report this month from the Vietnam Food Safety Department said there were 927 cases of food poisoning between 2007 and 2011, with 30,733 people being hospitalized and 229 dying.

Food served at companies accounted for more than 20 percent of the cases, with a significant proportion occurring at industrial parks and export processing zones in the southeast, it said.

The National Institute of Nutrition said recently that its tests of food served at factories revealed pesticides and other toxic substances.

A cook at a caterer’s in Binh Duong Province, who asked for anonymity, admitted that hygiene was not a factor in workers’ meals.

She said: “We buy large quantities of vegetables and just cook them without throwing out rotten ones and those with worms. We have few workers and a huge workload. We might be fired if we take the time to do such things.”

Dr. Luu Ngan Tam, chief of the nutrition department at Ho Chi Minh City’s Cho Ray Hospital, said: “Authorities do not pay enough attention to factory workers’ food safety. They eat with fear [of food poisoning].”

On July 29, 62 workers at confectioner Art Tango Company in HCMC’s Vinh Loc Industrial Park were hospitalized after eating ground pork porridge, rice, fried fish, prawn, and pumpkin soup for lunch.

In another case, on July 4, more than 100 workers at textile and garment maker Takson Vina Company in HCMC’s Hoc Mon District came down with food poisoning.

They had eaten rice, braised pork, and vegetable soup at noon supplied by the Tu Anh Company based in Binh Chanh District.


Undernourished

Of course there are many factory workers who have not suffered from food poisoning. But the chances are they are likely to be undernourished.

A recent report by the HCMC Nutrition Center said one in every three workers at industrial zones is malnourished.

Of the 400 workers it studied, more than 19 percent were anemic and 70 percent had iodine deficiency.

On August 13, the Vietnam Food Safety Department held a meeting with the Binh Duong Health Department to discuss the undernourishment of workers in industrial parks and export processing zones.

Several experts warned that millions of workers in the country’s 256 industrial parks and export processing zones are threatened by poor and tainted meals supplied by the companies.

They blamed companies’ apathy and efforts to cut costs for the poor and unhygienic meals.

The National Nutrition Institute reported at the conference that the meals only met 77.7 percent of women workers’ calorie needs and less than 90 percent of men’s. It had surveyed 900 workers aged between 18 and 60.

Le Bach Mai, deputy director of the institute, said it was detrimental to workers’ health and would impact on their working capacity.

“The gaunt, thin appearance of many workers is the result of working for years without enough food,” he said.

Tran Quang Trung, director of the Vietnam Food Safety Department, said many caterers use cheap ingredients that could cause food poisoning.

“Local authorities and the managements of industrial parks do not play an active role in ensuring food safety,” he said.

Food safety agencies and health inspectors do not discharge their responsibility properly, he added.

For the past several years Vietweek has been reporting that many factory caterers cut corners because they have to pay commissions to company officials awarding contracts.

The price companies pay for meals used to be VND8,000-10,000 (US$0.34-$0.48) a few years ago and has increased to VND10,000-12,000.

If it seems too meager, considering the fact that the actual cost is only around 60 percent of that, what with overhead, commissions, and profit margins.

Frustrated workers

The HCMC Labor Federation reported a total of 57 wildcat strikes in the first half of this year with more than 32,700 workers taking part. Companies’ refusal to improve the meals was among the reasons, it said.

In Binh Duong, which has many industrial parks, there were 44 strikes.

A survey by the Binh Duong Food Safety Agency found that around half the workers at industrial parks remained hungry after lunch. Around 51 percent said the food was not tasty or nutritious.

At a recent conference on nutrition for factory workers, Nguyen Thi Cuc, a medical worker at the Chang Shin Company in Dong Nai Province, said many workers are forced to spend less on meals at home since they have to send money to their families.

“Many workers eat instant noodles without even boiling water [to save on power],” she said.

“Monday is when the largest number of workers faint [at work] because they did not eat enough at home over the weekend.”

[jackbl]

Eateries feed students rotten food
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If you pay peanuts, you get monkeys. Yes, Tuoi Tre can confirm this after its reporter discovered, while disguising himself as a waiter, that roadside eateries in a college neighborhood in Ho Chi Minh City’s outlying Thu Duc District used dirty and putrid ingredients.

For sure, they offer meals to local students at a price twice as cheap as central city areas.

A dish of rice costs a mere VND12,000 (58 U.S. cents) to VND15,000 (72 U.S. cents) in the neighborhood, where some 35,000 students are studying for their first degree at top-tier universities, while one would have to pay VND25,000 ($1.2) to VND30,000 ($1.4) for it in inner city areas. And here is the reason for this bargain.

Your correspondent was recruited as a waiter at MV, an eatery there, last month and felt shocked at the way its affordable meals were prepared.

The kitchen was stuffed with pots, saucepans, meat, fish, fruit, and vegetables that were all left near a big can full of smelly food remains on a fatty floor, just a step away from the dishwashing area and bathroom.

Huong, the owner of MV, was now taking frozen meat and fish from a fridge and then poured them all into a pan already black after repeated use.

She also fried chicken wings and thighs in the same black-oil pan to be used again the following days to cook all kinds of stuff like pork, fish, squids, frogs, eggs, water spinach, bamboo shoots, and other vegetables.

Next, the woman showed her skills to turn rotten pork into freshly looking dishes, the main course of any student’s meal.

The eatery owner pulled a plastic bag of fetid pork out of the same fridge and threw the contents into a water pan, before getting them into a plastic basin in a dust-covered corner.

Then she dumped a package of yellow sugar, another of red substance with an ‘Indian curry’ label on the outside, some white powder, and home-made fish sauce into a steel pot before cramming the rotted meat inside.

She blended them together and stirred the mixture for a few seconds. And the meat now looked really clean, and eye-catching.

Other ingredients like fruit and vegetables were cursorily washed or not at all before they were cooked.

Your correspondent also worked as a waiter at another eatery, SV, a stone’s throw from MV, which followed nearly the same food preparation process.

Foodstuffs were put close to the bathroom and the drainage system in a tiny kitchen.

They were prepared with bare hands whereas cooks were often seen stuffing pork into tofu cubes with the same naked fingers they used to peel fruit and tubers a moment earlier.

The owner, Quy, said that all this could be bought at dirt cheap prices at a district market because they were either decaying or could not be sold during previous market sessions.

[Honey Boon]

opps .... somebody tio kan again ....

Originally Posted by jackbl

Your saying is really no head no tail. If that person cant read and write TV, then why need you to help? Your bx cant read and write for her?

After KT asked u what translate, then u say your bx help u to translate between you and her talking, those are Conversational TV, what have to do with "read and write TV"?

[PenguinChaser]

Originally Posted by Honey Boon

opps .... somebody tio kan again ....

His condition getting worst??? 😉

[ilovedoggie]

Originally Posted by PenguinChaser

His condition getting worst??? 😉

I highly suspect he's having a syndrome of KTTN.

[vietboy]

Originally Posted by jackbl

Your saying is really no head no tail. If that person cant read and write TV, then why need you to help? Your bx cant read and write for her?

After KT asked u what translate, then u say your bx help u to translate between you and her talking, those are Conversational TV, what have to do with "read and write TV"?

I dun quite remember what actually happened, just remember that i filling up some sort of forms for her in TA, so remembered is have to write her parents names, but she dun know how to write, so my wife ask her then tell me how to write as i'm holding the pen and writing. After that my wife told me she is uneducated, dun know how to read and write. so everytime my wife want to contact her is to call her, cannot sms as she dun even understand.

[vietboy]

Originally Posted by Honey Boon

opps .... somebody tio kan again ....

ya, he likes to chak me as revenge for flying him areoplane that day.

Originally Posted by PenguinChaser

His condition getting worst??? ��

What condition?

Originally Posted by ilovedoggie

I highly suspect he's having a syndrome of KTTN.

Whats KTTN?

[vietnam80]

bros, appreciate you can help me with this, i see liao no head no tail. "em kg thich nhan su giup do cua ai co no co tra, vay nhe. nhu vay moi de song"


cam on for translate...

[KangTuo]

Originally Posted by vietnam80

bros, appreciate you can help me with this, i see liao no head no tail. "em kg thich nhan su giup do cua ai co no co tra, vay nhe. nhu vay moi de song"


cam on for translate...

i try...
i don't like recieve any help of anyone. have take have return, like that ok. like that then can live.

[PenguinChaser]

Originally Posted by vietboy

ya, he likes to chak me as revenge for flying him areoplane that day.

What condition?

Whats KTTN?

更年期, as I joked about above.

[vietnam80]

Originally Posted by KangTuo

i try...
i don't like recieve any help of anyone. have take have return, like that ok. like that then can live.

thank u for the translate KT bro.... but still i dun knw what she meant. she ask me to help her look for room that is cheap, i sms her that i find liao $15 per day with makan, then she sms me the above....Siao charbo....

[jackbl]

Corruption in Vietnam is serious, blatant, rampant
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Corruption in Vietnam is serious, blatant, and omnipresent, admitted Le Van Lan, deputy office chief of the Central Steering Committee for Anti-Corruption during a conference in July held by the National Assembly’s Standing Committee.

Lan categorized corruption into 6 sectors: in the management of land and natural resources (take bribes to grant title deeds); in the finance banking sector; in construction (inflate building costs); in management of state assets (embezzlement, faking invoices); in human resource management (bribery for jobs, promotion); and in judicial sector (judges take bribes to alter verdicts).

The Party and State has asserted that “the corruption situation in Vietnam is serious”, he admitted.

Lan also mentioned data from Transparency International in his report which could be found in Vietnamese on oscac.gov.vn, the official anti-corruption website launched by the government in May this year.

According to Transparency International, Vietnam’s level of corruption is among the highest in the world.

Lan said that in 2007, Vietnam scored 2.6 points on the Transparency International index, ranking 123 out of 179 countries and territories; in 2008, it scored 2.7, ranking 121/180; in 2009 2.7 points, ranking 120/180; in 2010 2.7 points, ranked 116/178.

Last year, Vietnam ranked 112th out of 182 countries and territories, scoring 2.9 points.

That means in recent years, the Southeast Asian country scored below 3 points on the corruption index and nations scoring below 3 have “serious” corruption according to Transparency International, Lan told the conference.

Compared to Asia, Vietnam’s corruption is more serious than Singapore, Japan, South Korea, Brunei, Malaysia, China, Thailand, Indonesia… but less serious than Mongolia, Philippines, Laos, Nepal, Cambodia, Myanmar…

“In summary, corruption in Vietnam is serious, sophisticated, complicated, and blatant occurring across many sectors, and at many levels”, Lan said.

In the past, corruption occurred mainly in the economic sector but now has spread to education, healthcare, charity, social policy, humanitarian, anti-epidemic activities, even in law protection agencies like police, prosecutor’s office, court…

Small bribes are rampant, especially for low-ranking officials like police officers, tax employees, doctors, nurses while in other countries corruption mainly occur among senior politicians.

[jackbl]

HCM City: Thousands of teachers have nowhere to go
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VietNamNet Bridge – After many years of enduring the teacher shortage, HCM City now suffers the teacher redundancy. The number of candidates registering to attend the competitive competition for the jobs at high schools this year is six times higher than the number of students to be recruited.

Hundreds of teachers attended the recruitment interview at the HCM City Education and Training Department on August 1. T, one of the candidates, said though she attended the interview, she did not put a high hope on the opportunity, even though she has the university degree at “good level.”

“Only 29 physics teachers would be selected, while there are 282 candidates. I think the candidates with master degrees would be prioritized,” T said.

“What would you do, if you fail the competition exam?” – “I have applied for the post of administer at a private school. However, I have been told that the school prioritizes male teachers,” she replied.

T said that if she cannot find the opportunities to work as a teacher, he would go working as a worker in an export processing zone for one year, while waiting for the next year’s opportunities, because she cannot sit idle now.


The distress of the freelance teachers

Like T, a lot of candidates said they did not think they would be recruited. D, a candidate, said she has been working as a freelance teacher for one year already, since the day of graduation.

“I sometimes give lessons at some schools as a visiting teacher. However, the job has been unstable. They (the schools) would call me when they need me,” she complained.

D said HCM City needs 31 biology teachers, which means that 130 candidates would fail. If D cannot become a teacher, she wishes to be able to work as an officer of laboratory, library. “I would rather take these jobs than keeping working as a freelancer,” she said.

L seemed to be elder than other candidates attending the exams in early August. She said she graduated pedagogical school three years ago, but she still has not found a suitable job, because the “education sector is now witnessing the history teacher oversupply.”

Now L works as an administer for a private school and receives 3 million dong a month only for a hard job which requires her to be present at the school from 6 am to 6 pm every day.


One has to compete with six others

According to the HCM City Education and Training Department, by August 2, the high schools in the city had got the applications from 2975 candidates, while the department planned to recruit 525 teachers only; which means that one candidate would have to compete with six others for a seat at a school.

Meanwhile, Van Cong Sang, a senior official of the HCM City Education and Training said the demand for teachers and officers from private schools has also become weaker.

This means that about 1300 teachers would have nowhere to work, which is really a big waste of the society’s resources and money. In a plan to develop the teaching staff for schools, the state exempts tuitions for pedagogical school students. Meanwhile, the schools’ graduates have been unemployed.

The most effective solution to settle the current problem is to organize training based on the predictions about the demand. However, the employers (general schools) and the trainers (pedagogical universities) still have not got a common voice to improve the situation.

Tien Phong