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12-04-2013, 12:27 PM
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(Cont) We would hang out in his house...chit chat and talk about our plans for our future and anything under the sun...then go get a coffee or snack at the hawker centre...life was simple and good...his sister would sometimes join us...but most of the time felt left out by guys speak...or more technically accurate...our talking cock...yet, she bravely hung on and tagged along with us every so often... I always excused myself around 6 pm to go meet Ching, and Chong’s mother had asked me many times to stay for dinner...always...no thanks Auntie...need to go home....and she would laugh and scold me...say I should always go home first and spend more time there...hahaha...I know that if I really did that...Auntie would have been disappointed... Anyway...this lasted for the 6 months of OCS...and when I was posted back to be a P.C in Guards...things got even more busy...I had to cut the time spent at Chong’s house...and went over only once every two weeks...Ching and I were still keeping things light but I can tell she was getting restless...I knew she wanted more...a proper gf/bf thingy...even though we did all the bf/gf things...shopping, movies, meals, play house etc...but she wanted a title, which I could not understand the importance of...I mean, say she's girlfriend or don't say she's girlfriend, she is still girlfriend mah, right? Why must be iron teeth about this? My OCS mate have met her and they think of her as my girlfriend, not enough meh?..I only knew that I wanted to attend university in England...and that was still my plan in about a year’s time...and in my warped sense of logic, I merely didn't want someone who has speaking right to ask me not to go, and thus give me a dilemma... During this period, both Ching and Chong would tell me the going ons in the Japanese class and they have become good friends too...I guess because they shared a common friend in me plus the Chung factor...and we tried so hard not to mix the meetings that I never actually saw the two of them together for a long time...once in a while, I'd meet him and Chung together...the young love birds were still not making headway in the sex department, and even I was starting to get blue balls on his behalf...he wasn't fazed though...and patiently explained to me that this is how a good relationship should be...KNN...I almost choked on my satay.... One day...Ching and I had an argument...we both said things we regretted...but young lovers are prone to that kind of things...after a few hugs and kisses...all was forgiven and things were back to normal...however...the mind state has altered...and I suspect that it kept on modifying a little at a time after that... Roughly 2 months after that big argument...Ching and I decided to break off the sexual relationship and just be friends...I wouldn’t be her boyfriend and she wanted more from a guy...fair enough... I was not that guy for her...only being her friend was not easy but since I had little time...I only met her once a month after that...to eat and catch up, nothing more...but we were like the best of friends and can share everything because of our history.... We were soon passing the 1.5 year mark of our NS...I had another ‘girlfriend’, Chong said Chung broke up with him but its ok, he almost have another girlfriend already anyway...I asked him to double date with us and he always said not yet....I pushed and questioned and got no answer as to why we cannot double date...he had join me and my new girl for supper but there was no sign of his so-called girlfriend...according to Ching, Chung found Chong to be too straight and boring...ok, so opposites didn't attract that much then... I still visited his house...and the soup and cakes and keuhs were always good...Auntie was always very pleasant and made me felt at home...Chong’s sister even started to sew and iron my uniform and stuff for me...this was like a home to me... One day...Chong pulled me out to the hawker centre before I had my soup...na bei...WTF man?? And he acted very secretive...which was very unlike him...we sat down to a cup of kopi each then he started with the twenty questions... Hey...I know you have a girlfriend but you are not very serious with her right? Yes??? Why?? Hey...how about my sister?? What about your sister?? You know she likes you right? Yeah...I’m a very likeable person...so what?? No...not like that...she really likes you... For fuck sake bro...what’s going on? Are you trying to fix me up with you sister?? He looked a bit embarrassed...but he pushed on...he told me that when his sister heard that I have a girlfriend...she cried all night...KNN...why girls so like that one?? He asked if I can see a chance to be with his sister...you know...make her happy...which will make him happy...and also make his mother happy...yeah yeah yeah....I get it...na bei...everybody happy mah, right?...except me...no one cares how I feel hor... No ah...she will make you happy one....you don’t think my sister is good for you meh? Ok folks...time out...this is a fucking loaded question...a guy and his sister...do not mess around there...he makes fun of her...no problems...he tekan her...no problems...he says she is good for nothing...no problems...anyone else try to do or say the same things about his sister...NNB...there will be hell to pay...and I already know this at that tender age... (to be continued...) .
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Thanks to everyone who upped me...  ************ ---For most women, it's what you do before sex that shows her your love... -------For most men, it's what she does during sex that displays her love.... But for me...it's what she does after sex that tells me if and how much she loves me... 
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12-04-2013, 04:33 PM
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Just that I dun really like to discuss it in public.. That passed, but I'm still on my move on phase.. Quote:
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Its said that "Woman lose their brain (ability to think logically) after they have sex with their partner when Man gain their brain (ability to think straight) after had sex.." It should be something like that la.. My memories isn' t very good.. Me, myself can blame chemistry for that.. Bcos oxytocin screw my mind.. But, I think its because i need thr loving when we're having sex.. That's makes me feel fuller as a human being.. Quote:
I think your guide isn't a guide to speed dating.. But more like guide to get a woman to have sex with before the night is over.. Or in another word, how to get ONS.. As if you re-read what you post, the goal is having sex.. And not to get to know her properly first for some time (say like 3 days or a week before sex).. Eg. After you get her in ur bed and you think she's not that good to keep, i think you'll fuck her until ur last day of your stay and discard her asap.. Bcos i think you won't want to know more if she said she dun want.. (like your case with that Australian gal who rejecting u and make you have to find another sleeping partner).. 
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12-04-2013, 04:45 PM
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But, I wasn't mah.. And i also not asking to be in a relationship with the guy.. He asked and I liked him and the sex and i said yes to so called long distance relationship.. And around this period, I asked him few times about his rs status, he said no.. Then I liked him more, his gf aka fiance come lo.. Ka jiao everything.. Haha..
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12-04-2013, 05:11 PM
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I'm having some inkling, speculative guess but let's wait till the end. TS, post more and reply less. You don't need to justify yourself. You did what you did. Your game, your rules and be it good or bad. Your life.
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12-04-2013, 06:58 PM
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With the levelling of the playing field so to speak...the only way to keep a partner is to make that person want to stay voluntarily...and is no longer just about singular aspects like good looks, good sex and so on...the total package matters more than just sexiness... Quote:
Yes, it is the hormone that calms, reduces stress and induces bonding...but.... As long as both partners ares satisfied with a sexual encounter...my question was...why shoes everyone feel/think/comment that....the woman lost out...in Chinese...吃亏了... This is a public opinion/belief that I don't get...surely women enjoy sex as much as, if not more than men... Quote:
There is also an assumption that men will fuck just any willing woman...which is not true... An important element is the qualifying process, which you will be surprised at how many guys have asked me about....and in my discussions with them...different standards and likes create different qualifying processes... This mean...a lot of the women are 'spared'... Yes sis...sex is the ultimate point for guys to hook a woman mah...so speed dating guide for guys must surely have this end goals as the objective. Errrr...I agree that most people at the start of using my method MAY tend to sleep and forget as many women as possible...but once they know it works...most guys I know of will become a lot more selective... From a woman's perspective...getting to know someone needs a fair amount of time...for men...this is not really necessary...especially to get to the sex part...AND...for most men...sex (good sex in the case of men with lots of option...multiple availability of sex for men with fewer option...and offer of sex for men with no other option) is also a selection requirement to decide if a woman is worth keeping... I'm sorry sis...as I'm writing this...I realise it doesn't sound too good from the women's point of view...even some guys may not like what i just said...but it is true...and my method is not for everyone... For me at least...the person may be the loveliest person in the world, the most pretty, the kindest...(blah blah blah...you get the idea...) ...if the sex between us is not compatible...using my words...I will throw her away... (NB...I won't keep her till the end of my stay...one sexual encounter is not stringing a woman along in my mind...I would rather go hooking again the next day because what I am after in my method...is to find a woman I can revisit over and over again...) From your point of the argument...I agree that in a way I have created a ONS situation..but the intention was never about that...as stated above...my aim is to find a 'partner'...to meet and to get to know...over a reasonably long period of time... Ok sis...and please don't get me wrong...I do value and respect your views...and would love a chance and proper forum to discuss this with you in depth (because I am fascinated with a woman's perspective...)...but as bro Templust says...we are going off topic...my thinking about our exchange is this... However gentle, guided with the best intentions, using the most painless /pleasurable methods possible...a fish will never agree with and condone a fisherman lowering his hook into the water...whether the fisherman plans to keep, take care of, eat or release the fish after catching her... Thanks sis...you just inspired a slight tweak to applying my method... Please keep commenting...great to hear your points... .
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Thanks to everyone who upped me... ************ ---For most women, it's what you do before sex that shows her your love... -------For most men, it's what she does during sex that displays her love.... But for me...it's what she does after sex that tells me if and how much she loves me... Last edited by Wizrd; 13-04-2013 at 05:06 PM.
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12-04-2013, 07:01 PM
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Yes sir...but...the point of posting in a forum is to interact and get points of view...and to discuss those POV...no? Alrighty...you are not wrong either...here comes the next instalment... Cheers bro... .
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Thanks to everyone who upped me... ************ ---For most women, it's what you do before sex that shows her your love... -------For most men, it's what she does during sex that displays her love.... But for me...it's what she does after sex that tells me if and how much she loves me...
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12-04-2013, 07:08 PM
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(Cont) So I hummed and hawed for a while...cannot say yes...cannot say no...na bei...how to answer loaded questions like this?? At the end, I came up with a plan....ok bro...I tell you what...maybe...ok, maybe only hor...I take your sister out for a meal and a movie...see how we get along first ok? Maybe she will stop liking me or something...then we decide can or not? Like a date? Shiiiiit...my face aged at least a year from that question....No lah, not date lah...don’t gun the jump like that...we just spend some alone time together first then see ok?? He grinned from ear to ear...and my next date was fixed...haiz... Since I didn’t really want to rush back to his house to meet his sister...we hung out longer at the hawker centre...We talked about other things...his camp...his English classes (which has improved his England powder to impressive levels...this Chong is hard working and is a genius...if only I can jam a kantang into his throat...he would sound like a radio DJ...)...and of course the Japanese class... His eyes dimmed a bit on mentioning the Japanese class... What’s wrong, I asked...but he didn’t say anything...maybe reminded him of Chung...I quickly changed the subject... After a while...we went back to his house...his sister engaged me in conversation...mostly to find out if I had uniform to wash or iron or clean or sew or something (lucky for her I was still quite young and green then...otherwise, may have asked for a BJ...hahahahaha...could be worth a beating from Chong just for that...)...Chong went back into his room and took out his notebook...something he carried with him and I have never seen what’s inside... This time...he showed it to me...he opened to a page where he penned some Chinese poems...love poems and such...it was quite good...a bit too sugary but good...and being quite the expert in poems, I read with interest...he wrote about 8-9 poems...not long...but all quite touching and meaningful... Wah bro...I said to him...what’s up?? Love sick ah?? This for you girlfriend you told me about? His face turned red... Eventually...I got it out of him...he likes this girl but is afraid to ask her out...so he wrote poems...but then afraid to show her...she is not his girlfriend and may not even know he likes her...but he sometimes talk like she is his girlfriend...KNN...why guys so like that one?? I said to him...how do you expect the girl to know you like her?? You must try mah...the most she says no only...anyway...these poems can melt any girl’s heart...be brave...approach her and show her...then if she likes them, tell her they're written for her...if you need, I can help you write some in English too... He ee ee aa aa all the way until about the time for me to leave...and then finally told me...he likes Ching...she has been kind and nice to him...although she never hinted that she likes him that way...but the more time he spent with her, the more he liked her...now...he can't stop thinking about her.... Hmmmm...I thought to myself...I can help here...she and I are no longer together in that way...put in a few good words...at least can get them on a few dates right?? He's a good guy...she's a good girl...not that difficult I think...they can be good together... Ok bro...I told him...don’t worry...you polish up these poems...I will talk to Ching ... Are you sure?? Hey brother, don’t sabo me hor...what if she stops talking to me altogether? Don’t worry lah...wrap on my body...I hint hint and if she don’t like...I won’t push it further ok...then you can just act blur and say didn’t know why I said those crazy things...ok?? The poor guy must have had sperm swimming in his head by that stage...even if I told him to jump off the tallest building; he would have done it for love...so he happily agreed to my plan... (to be continued...) .
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Thanks to everyone who upped me... ************ ---For most women, it's what you do before sex that shows her your love... -------For most men, it's what she does during sex that displays her love.... But for me...it's what she does after sex that tells me if and how much she loves me...
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13-04-2013, 12:49 AM
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BRO!!! all the chung ching chung lol KNN i read halfway i kena confused liao lol
but you a bit CB in a sense hor...you never tell chong that you already up the girl ching liao lol.... later when they together hor then she blurt out...you BI BIN wan lo..no meh..sure got like KKNBCCG why you never tell me before...from what i see chong very traditional de right...sure he will mind de lo even if he never say lol.. somemore you his brother leh hahaha...not nice to kept in the dark ma...imagine that my gf kena up by my best buddy and i dunno...then when find out i very kao wei de lo...my best friend seen my gf naked..up her...and duno up how many times...where they up..knn lol 101 question..then got scar..then break liao...lol then i'll curse him like no tml de...
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13-04-2013, 01:45 AM
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Hahahaha...bro... Yeah lor...I was going to name his sister Cheng and my army buddy Chang...but that will confuse even me...so I kept it simple... Yes...I agree with you...but think of the time line mah bro...who brings up ancient history like that one?...he says he likes her...not say I tell him cannot, I already fucked her...like that meh? How to say? Some more I really think they can be good for each other...and can make each other happy...some more I already no longer in the picture...should be ok right? Then once we past that window of opportunity...at which point can we bring it up? Got confessional happy hour meh? Fate bro...it's all bloody fated...  .
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Thanks to everyone who upped me... ************ ---For most women, it's what you do before sex that shows her your love... -------For most men, it's what she does during sex that displays her love.... But for me...it's what she does after sex that tells me if and how much she loves me...
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13-04-2013, 12:38 PM
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Long story made short...over the next few weeks, I went on a few dates with his sister...she is really very pleasant and nice to be with...she’s quite pretty too...but I cannot help feeling like she is my sister too...you know what I mean?? No real sexual spark...just very comfortable to be with her...never even had the urge to cop a feel or anything type...and slowly...she accepted me as her friend...and we could talk about anything...and some time later, I even helped her nab a boyfriend...but that’s another really funny story... And during the same time, I convinced Ching to give Chong a chance...aiya, just go out on a few dates...you know he is a really nice guy...very stable and progressive...never fucks around...in fact...never fucked before...if you like, he is the perfect bf material...if don’t like...just step back to be friends lor... Na bei...they went on a few dates...then the middle man got cut out of the loop after that...hahaha...that’s always a good sign... This went on for a while...meantime, yours truly was going through girlfriends like it was going out of fashion...damn modern girls are getting too bloody smart and demanding...and then...3 months after he finished his NS (I still had a while to go for yaya papaya going to OCS...)...he announced to me that he and Ching are getting married... I was never so happy for anyone ever....my best friends are getting married...his sister and I busied ourselves with arranging everything....by this time, he had found a decent job and his powder of England gave him an edge that complimented his diploma perfectly...most people with that diploma were Chinese educated so he really stood out....and the Ching Chong wedding was the event of the day for all of us... Everything went swimmingly...they were happy...his sister was happy...his mother was happy...his father was happy, well, at least as happy when he was not drunk...I was kinda happy...changed a few girlfriends again...KNN...girls are not easy to nail down when there’s no offer of commitment on the table...I vowed to find a way to deal with this issue....^_^ Anyway...all went along well and issue-free for a few years... I made two major life decision modifications during that time... 1) I did not go to England to further my studies...I joined the Air force instead because they came knocking and the offer sounded too interesting to pass up...the university will always be there right? 2) I met this girl and while I psychoed her to be with me with no commitment...she slowly psychoed me to marry her...took her a few years but she won at the end...the biggest sway that helped her was that I also want to invest in property and HDB can only be possible with marriage...I already own a condo unit but without a second property, cannot make money on where I was staying...when she pitched me the – let’s get married so that we can buy an HDB proposal...it sounded logically and financially correct...we were staying together already anyway...one more piece of paper wouldn’t add that much right? (fucking wrong! Wrong! WRONG!...that was a dickhead decision...only wish I thought that through...but then...at that time of my life...I did not have enough information to know how stupid that decision was....) Chong and I still hung out...but obviously not as often as before...We each had our own lives and we were both busy... Then came the fateful night... Ching and Chong already have two children at this stage...one daughter and one son...they were trying for one more...They also moved into a nice condo...life was really good to them...I was the son's godfather so was practising my Marlon Brando impersonation to fit into the role properly...why everyone always laughed at me when I did that was beyond my comprehension...I mean seriously, who dared to laugh when Don Corleone said...I'm gonna make him an offer he won't refuse ok? I want you to leave it all to me...Dang, people were pissing in their pants when he said that...not laugh... At that time, I was stuck with my subservient girlfriend but was enjoying life too...constantly flying at the speed of sound is always good for the ego.... We got together a few times every couple of months...and always had a feast...this night was BBQ night and we all sat around the pit at the foot of their condo... (to be continued...) .
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Thanks to everyone who upped me... ************ ---For most women, it's what you do before sex that shows her your love... -------For most men, it's what she does during sex that displays her love.... But for me...it's what she does after sex that tells me if and how much she loves me...
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13-04-2013, 10:44 PM
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 Money bro...a lack of money...banks will only loan so many % of disposable income...and since I'm staying in that one and not producing income from it...HDB was the only option...especially for civil servants... .
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Thanks to everyone who upped me... ************ ---For most women, it's what you do before sex that shows her your love... -------For most men, it's what she does during sex that displays her love.... But for me...it's what she does after sex that tells me if and how much she loves me... Last edited by Wizrd; 13-04-2013 at 10:55 PM.
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13-04-2013, 10:48 PM
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Wah lau..
U not only know her father but also her mother? And even up her mother before? Oh my.. Such a small world n unexpected story..
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13-04-2013, 11:01 PM
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Alamak sis...don't rub it in any more can?? The heartache and guilt is already killing me... (Oh...belum reply...deal with other things dulu siap?) .
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Thanks to everyone who upped me... ************ ---For most women, it's what you do before sex that shows her your love... -------For most men, it's what she does during sex that displays her love.... But for me...it's what she does after sex that tells me if and how much she loves me... Last edited by Wizrd; 13-04-2013 at 11:13 PM.
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(Cont) Chong and I already fried and grilled and burnt everything we had...so we started on our after-meal beers and were drinking quite a bit...and since it was between babies for Ching...she joined us to drink quite a bit too...Chong and I were running around with the kids and just goofing around having a great time...the ladies sat together and had their usual conference...no doubt complaining to each other about everything the guys did wrong... It was getting late and the kids became tired...Chong and their maid took the kids upstairs to put them to bed...I went to get a box to pack up the BBQ stuff...my girlfriend needed the loo so she went upstairs with Chong... When i returned with two boxes, Ching was still sitting on the bench sipping her beer....she looked so absorbed and serene, I left her alone and went to the BBQ pit to pack up...A while after I started cleaning and packing up...Ching came and stood in front of the BBQ pit opposite me... Her eyes were red...and she seemed very deep in thought and breathing hard... I didn’t think much of it...she can’t be upset with me right? Whatever Chong did...I can try to help smooth things over but it's not really my business...whatever it was, she will calm down and forgive him soon enough...So I continued packing and just casually said to her...'You ok, Ching??' Then out of the blue.... ‘You bastard...’...she hissed...barely loud enough for me to hear her... Har what???? I put down the stuff and paid her more attention... ‘You fucking lying bastard...’...this time, she almost screamed it... ‘What Ching?’ I asked her...’What did I do??’ She shook her head and turned away...tears dripping off her face... ‘Ching...’...I said from behind her...’maybe you should stop drinking...’ She turned back around in a snap...’Don’t you dare tell me what I should do...’ ‘Ok...ok...’...I backed off...scanning for where I left all the knives...in case she start reaching for them... ‘What has upset you, Ching? What's the problem?’ I asked...as calmly as I could...my heart was beating at the speed of sound now... ‘YOU!!!...you are the fucking problem...I believed you all this time...’...she said...’but you are such a lying bastard...’...she was quite a bit louder than I’d like...I can sense other people near the BBQ area staring at us... She is drunk...I thought to myself....better find a way to calm her down before this becomes a scene... Unfortunately for me...this was around the time Chong and my girlfriend came back to the BBQ area...if only Ching and I could have finished this conversation before they came back...but how was I to know at that time??? Ching was facing away at this time so they just came and join me...Chong started to pick things up and I motioned to him to stop... ‘I think Ching is drunk bro...maybe we better get her upstairs...’...I said quietly to Chong... Chong frowned and looked concerned and started to go towards Ching... (to be continued...) .
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Thanks to everyone who upped me... ************ ---For most women, it's what you do before sex that shows her your love... -------For most men, it's what she does during sex that displays her love.... But for me...it's what she does after sex that tells me if and how much she loves me...
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