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Old 10-11-2009, 03:44 AM
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Hi Bro WB,

One more tactic to add to your bag of collection - the act of Suspense. Most women will find mysterious guys very attractive, other men will find you a threat. .................................................. ...............................................Rem ember the saying - between madness and genuis is a thin fine line. Where do you want to be? What will be your desired outcome?

Eg: You like gal A but you choose to ignore her. You put your actions into gal B in her line of sight. Then you back off............................................... .................................................. .......Forbidden fruit is always the best in anyone's eyes............

The crux - continue to keep others guessing your next move. What do I have to lose - basically I am a nobody and a very poor man.

Begin with the end in mind ...
Hi esteemed bro LDH,

Thank u for the excellent tactic! Being mysterious n unpredictable is indeed very attractive to women. Its skillful "deployment" will give a man an edge which could mean the difference bwtween success n failure...

Gorgeous women, non-WLs n WLs alike, hv many well-heeled suitors n they will avoid boring, pedictable men as if they r lepers!

Bro, you're becoming such an awesome tactician/strategist at this complex "war" game called BAO-ing. I hope u could continue to share ur wisdom from time to time w/ us mere mortals. Mr. Austin n bro Justime seem to be too busy...how abt inviting bro marc5 to share his tactics n insights on ST or 打炮? He is a master in this particular field.

OK, I must try to be more "mysterious," hehehe. Henceforth, I'll tell these young women I work for the Cia, a gahment agency in Gotham. My family name is Li, originally from S_illypore n they may call me 李大哥. And my English name is of course Cia_Li_S or Cialis, what else? Hahahaha. I guess the manufacturer of the yellow, almond-shaped tablets is using my namesake w/o my explicit permission!

BTW, u a no body n a very poor man? Well, still much better than me as I dun hv 2 pennies to rub together.

Joking aside, with the greenback dropping like a piece of stone everyday, by the time I return to SGP, I wont hv any money left after eating at the food mall. How to join the coterie of esteemed bros at high-end KTVs??!!

Best regards,

Bro WB aka Cia_Li_S
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Hi esteemed bro LDH,

Thank u for the excellent tactic! Being mysterious n unpredictable is indeed very attractive to women. Its skillful "deployment" will give a man an edge which could mean the difference bwtween success n failure...

Gorgeous women, non-WLs n WLs alike, hv many well-heeled suitors n they will avoid boring, pedictable men as if they r lepers!

Bro, you're becoming such an awesome tactician/strategist at this complex "war" game called BAO-ing. I hope u could continue to share ur wisdom from time to time w/ us mere mortals. Mr. Austin n bro Justime seem to be too busy...how abt inviting bro marc5 to share his tactics n insights on ST or 打炮? He is a master in this particular field.

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Joking aside, with the greenback dropping like a piece of stone everyday, by the time I return to SGP, I wont hv any money left after eating at the food mall. How to join the coterie of esteemed bros at high-end KTVs??!!
Hi bro Cia_Li_S aka WB,

I have posted a mini-FR on our trip to DC last night, which can be found here.

http://sbfsg.agency/health-...ml#post4272090

What has fallen will rise again, just like our Didi. I am sure the Am-conomy will improve and erect the FX to your favour.

I will then looking forward to you joining us once more in our sexcapades.

1. On tactics, real man play with power and wealth plus a little showmanship - not by backstabbing or gossiping. Leave the latter 2 to the women folks. Then again, I have seen too many well-heeled and properous bros do not flaunt their wealth - recently, I have the fortune of meeting a very humbled man. He is amongst the wealthiest in Singapore, but guess what car he drive? A humble Audi A3. He turned out to be my blessing and is now my business partner for my latest venture. I will intro him to you guys when we next do a mass brotherhood meetup. He is another lady killer...

2. No doubt, most women love men with power and wealth. But are these everlasting? There are women who crave for nice, down-to-earth and understanding guys.

3. Perception - Good women care about reputation and what others (friends, peers and community) view about them. Do they really want, deep in their hearts, to be with you or are they other things they want to GET/RECEIVE from you? Place this, a sweet 21 years old gal with a 60ish man. Whats' most folks' perception?

4. Mix stealth actions with bout of showmanship - This is to gain initial attention. Like I mentioned before, confuse your competition and audience. Let them guess your every actions - put noises/fanfare in the east and strike from the west.

5. Research well into your targets - the competition, the target's personality, emotional weaknesses. Basically in business, you do a SWOT analysis and the more you know the lesser you will be burnt.

6. Know your limitation - do not over indulge your boundaries. Time to stop, you must stop. Time to pull-out, FUCK- Take it out. Always under invest in your targets, in the world of commercialised relationship, they are just not worth you pushing your limits. Also, do not let your targets know too much about you personally.

Think the above are lots to digest but they came with my personal experience as well as several other esteemed bros I cheong with.

Now and again the crux of the another matter - gals do not like threats, be it in a normal R/S or a commercially driven one! Not all gals are that naive, though many are. Why are WLs called WL and are in the commercial business - they are no longer that naive.


*** I will leave bro Marc5 to comment on the rest of his own experience... cos he is really the pro's pro!


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Hi bro Cia_Li_S aka WB,

I have posted a mini-FR on our trip to DC last night, which can be found here..............

What has fallen will rise again, just like our Didi. I am sure the Am-conomy will improve and erect the FX to your favour.

I will then looking forward to you joining us once more in our sexcapades.

1. On tactics, real man play with power and wealth plus a little showmanship -....... recently, I have the fortune of meeting a very humbled man. He is amongst the wealthiest in Singapore, but guess what car he drive? A humble Audi A3. He ............is now my business partner for my latest venture.....He is another lady killer...

2. No doubt, most women love men with power and wealth. But are these everlasting? There are women who crave for nice, down-to-earth and understanding guys.

3. Perception - Good women care about reputation and what others...view about them.....................Place this, a sweet 21 years old gal with a 60ish man. Whats' most folks' perception?

4. Mix stealth actions with bout of showmanship -................... put noises/fanfare in the east and strike from the west.

5. Research well into your targets - the competition, the target's personality, emotional weaknesses.............................

6. Know your limitation - do not over indulge your boundaries. Time to stop, you must stop............................Also, do not let your targets know too much about you personally.
.............................gals do not like threats, be it in a normal R/S or a commercially driven one!.........................

*** I will leave bro Marc5 to comment on the rest of his own experience... cos he is really the pro's pro!

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Hi esteemed bro LDH,

Ths for ur pearls of wisdom.

I concur w/ just abt everything u hv written except for the future of the greenback. Sure, it will rebound n then go sideway for awhile. But for the next 5-10 yrs it has nowhere to go but down, IMHO.

You're a master tactician n u know the mind game very well. You hv gone beyond the Art of War in engaging these KTV WLs.

I'll go to DC thread n follow ur outings there...

We also need bro marc5 to reveal a little of his tactics in his chosen field.

Best regards,

Bro WB
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Old 11-11-2009, 07:00 PM
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Bro, you're becoming such an awesome tactician/strategist at this complex "war" game called BAO-ing. I hope u could continue to share ur wisdom from time to time w/ us mere mortals. Mr. Austin n bro Justime seem to be too busy...how abt inviting bro marc5 to share his tactics n insights on ST or 打炮? He is a master in this particular field.
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Bro WB and bro LDH,

I'm no pros or have any effective tactics or insights as far as PRC gals are concerned. I'm just having fun and playing along using the fundamental approach of "win-win".

I used to spend a lot of time and resources on certain "targets" in HFJs and KTVs but it was an ancient history. Simply because in the end, I lost, they won. I had a couple of friends who burnt more than 100K just for one to two bonks - a lot of the effort was to fence off competition. Hence, to me, bro LDH's strategy on "know your limitation" is a critical. Besdies, I have limited time and resources these days.

I'm a ST man now as you know well. I love variety, choices and options. When a PRC hints a longer term relationship as a condition for a bonk, I back off. I would prefer the proposal come from me than the PRC. Having said that, when a prc accepts a ST proposal in the first encounter, I back off too. I enjoy the process rather than the bonk itself; as I always said. Somehow it gives me a great feeling of "conquering" at the end of the day. Strange but that's what happened to me right now

I have two student-pass PRC gals on the radar screen right now. One from Wuhan and the other from Chengdu. Both have hinted for a longer term relationship to me (note: no monetary aspect has beedn rasied yet). But I'll not commit anything and see how it goes...

Man, I love diversity.
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Old 12-11-2009, 03:21 AM
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Bro WB and bro LDH,
..................I'm just having fun and playing along using the fundamental approach of "win-win".

I used to spend a lot of time and resources on certain "targets" in HFJs and KTVs but it was an ancient history. Simply because in the end, I lost, they won. I had a couple of friends who burnt more than 100K just for one to two bonks - a lot of the effort was to fence off competition. Hence, to me, bro LDH's strategy on "know your limitation" is a critical...........

I'm a ST man now as you know well. I love variety, choices and options. When a PRC hints a longer term relationship as a condition for a bonk, I back off.... Having said that, when a prc accepts a ST proposal in the first encounter, I back off too. I enjoy the process rather than the bonk itself; as I always said.....

I have two student-pass PRC gals on the radar screen right now..............Both have hinted for a longer term relationship to me (note: no monetary aspect has beedn rasied yet)..................
Man, I love diversity.
Hi esteemed bro marc5,

Ths for sharing ur insights n strategy.

You're really cool man, truly 真人不露相. You hv the right mindset n your emotional control n self mastery r awesome! Back off when a chio gal accepts ur ST proposal or hints at a longer term RS? Impossible for me to resist that...my didi always votes yes immediately. No wonder I sometimes end up paying more than the going rates. I hv a long way to go to develop self mastery.

Like u, I also love variety n diversity. I must adopt some of ur tactics bcos I also like ST n will only offer BY if the gal rejects ST repeatedly. Your approach actually is great for both ST n BY. I call it 近可攻退可守. It's brilliant.

As for spending over 100k for one or two bonks, it would be wiser to take that money, go to china, n keep a chio SYT for a whole yr, hehehe. Or bring her to SGP. I may hv overpaid these KTV gals a bit, but never too much, bcos I always ask myself what I could get in or from China even if other costs n factors r added to the whole equation.

Ths again.

Best regards,

Bro WB
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Good morning from the land of Batman!

I'm a fervent believer n adherent of global free trade n free market capitalism. There is one aspect of globalization that has been overlooked: The "export" of millions of nomadic PRC MMs overseas has lowered the damage for commercial sex around the globe, hehehe. But it's not a free market. There r still too many trade barriers...

I know that our gahmen is weary of the large-scale invasion of these intrepid n ruthless PRC MMs. The primary fear is the negative impact on our trade balance. I like to propose a solution which will reduce our losses, if any. I know my proposal is controversial n may rub some people the wrong way. If so, my apologies. Just my 2 cents....

I propose that we remove most of the barriers for these PRC MMs to enter SGP! Only 2 types of gals should be banned from coming: Those w/ criminal records n those w/ known HIV. My rationale is simple. This will result in a huge influx of these gals/women, arriving on all kinds of visa. It should also lower their costs of doing business. The supply will outstrip demand, at least initially. The law of free market will improve the quality n the stock of these MMs. Only the prettier n younger ones will survive n keep returning. As a result, the damage will go down across the board so the total damage to us will likely decrease. Two additional factors may actually improve our trade surplus.

Firstly, we will spend less money on whores in other countries, including ASEAN neighbors n China, etc. At present I'm very disatisfied w/ the quality of the PRC gals in SGP n plan to go to China to look for my type of gals. In general, one should get much higher ROI or return on investment from gals in PRC, even after adding the extra costs of travel, personal safety n time factor etc.into the equation.

Secondly, the high quality of PRC MMs at reasonable damage in SGP will attract many overseas visitors to our shore. They will likely stay longer, gamble in our 2 RIs n end up spending a lot more money, hahaha.
It will be a win-win-win-win situation for all parties involved.

I also propose giving out special legal permit for gals who want to work at KTVs. Screen them for HIV, etc before giving them the permit. May I also suggest a similar permit for those who want to do FL? Those w/o permit will be arrested n deported. So we will hv legal KTV gals n legal FLs, hahaha. They will also get regular health checks...

Finally, the gahmen should allow more 18-20 yo SYTs to work in legal GL houses. Strangely, there were a couple of PRC gals on singer permit at TAM who were only 16-17!!

Your dissenting views, criticisms n comments r always welcome.

Ths for reading n hv a great day!
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interesting writing but unlikely to happen. Your concern is more of having large numbers of pretty mei mei at a lower cost here in sg.....so that we are spolit for choice at KTV. High influx of these FL & KTV girls is viewed as more of a social problem than a economic ones. Let the market forces adjust itself, the pretty ones will survive, while the rest may have to look somewhere else.

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it would be wiser to take that money, go to china, n keep a chio SYT for a whole yr, hehehe. Or bring her to SGP.
Dear Brother Warbird,
Go Haerbin!
Got tall chio SYT and with korean looks.
I am heading that way
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interesting writing but unlikely to happen....... High influx of these FL & KTV girls is viewed as more of a social problem than a economic ones. Let the market forces adjust itself, the pretty ones will survive, while the rest may have to look somewhere else.
Hi bro Roman city,

Ths for ur comment.

All I want the gahmen to do is to "let the market forces adjust itself" by removing some of the existing barriers which favor 1) WLs from ASEAN countries over those from China n 2) among PRCs, older ones over SYTs. All I ever wish for is a level playing field for everyone.

Why do our existing barriers favor older PRCs over chio SYTs? Elementary...the complexities n high costs of applying for a visa to enter SGP dissuade many chio SYTs from coming. The chio teenage gals simply lack the capital, experience, courage n desperation to take the leap. They generally make a decent living, plying their trade or being BAO-ed, in China, almost always far from their hometowns. The older n/or homely ones can't make a living in there n hence become more desperate n r willing to take greater risks n borrow large sums of money to come here. They r everywhere. Even in Afghanistan n Africa!

By removing some of the barriers will result in only moderate increase in total supply of PRC MMs n much higher proportionate of chio SYTs to older n/or homely ones than currently exist. The demand will also increase so an equilibrium will be reached. The increased demand is due to 1) more local men spending their hard-earned money here on WLs, legal GL n KTV gals, etc. rather than in foreign lands n 2) increase in foreign visitors.

Social problems? There will be fewer. Fewer men will go to Thailand, VN or PRC n get KC-ed. With a big increase in chio SYTs here, we cheongsters will change our "scarcity" mindset to "abundance" mindset n be a lot more immune to KC traps. There is one potential "problem." Some local men may get hitched w/ these chio gals, hopefully by non-WLs. I like to look at the bright side. Our future generations will look more attractive too. To me that is a big plus, not a problem.

BTW, I hv been to some high-end KTVs n the quality of the gals has been so-so at best. Even quite ordinary looking gals hv many suitors. Many men r behaving like what I call 趋之若鹜...or literally like a flock of wild ducks scrambling n fighting for some scraps of food.

Just random musings of a lao chi ko pek, hehehe.

Cheers!

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Go Haerbin!
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I am heading that way.
Dear bro besafe,

Good for u. Too cold in Harbin at this time, I would opt to go to Dalian instead.

Have a safe trip! Bring a couple of chio SYTs back, OK? Want me to foot half the cost?

Cheers!
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Bring a couple of chio SYTs back, OK?
Wah ! If I dare as much as to "beo" at another girl for more than a minute, I will get castrated there.
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The chio teenage gals simply lack the capital, experience, courage n desperation to take the leap. They generally make a decent living, plying their trade or being BAO-ed, in China, almost always far from their hometowns.

BTW, I hv been to some high-end KTVs n the quality of the gals has been so-so at best. Even quite ordinary looking gals hv many suitors. Many men r behaving like what I call 趋之若鹜...or literally like a flock of wild ducks scrambling n fighting for some scraps of food.
Bro warbird, I think you are spot on. The chio SYTs usually venture in their home country, not necessarily their home towns, until they are seasoned. Then they move on to other cities or countries to searchfor new customers/markets. When I went to DG, ZH, XM, GZ or even SH and BJ, I saw abudant choices of young, sexy, SYTs for my selection. I was spoilt for choices.

Over here, in my view, most PRC gals are already seasoned with very few exception. Supply and demand theory applies. Hence, "no fish prawn also can" for many of us here...

So the point is: when are we going to CN?
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As mentioned by many MMs, those that venture onto our tiny island play in the motherland until stale or smelly liao.

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Wah ! If I dare as much as to "beo" at another girl for more than a minute, I will get castrated there.
Hi esteemed bro besafe,

Hahaha...but pls get their ctc for my future reference.

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Bro warbird, I think you are spot on. The chio SYTs usually venture in their home country............Then they move on to other cities or countries.............When I went to DG, ZH, XM, GZ or even SH and BJ, I saw abudant choices of young, sexy, SYTs for my selection. I was spoilt for choices.

Over here, in my view, most PRC gals are already seasoned with very few exception.........................

So the point is: when are we going to CN?
Hi esteemed bro marc5,

I hv been to HK n SZ many, many times on business but never cheong in China! I hv a good fren, a local HK businessman, who is eager to take me to DG/CP to hunt for SYTs. Another HK fren told me XM was great w/ 500 gals in just one KTV! Then there r some bros who told me the prettiest model type gals were in high-end KTVs n saunas in Macau. I think we will be spoilt for chioces, hehehe.

I would like to join u for some fun in Southern China n perhaps Macau in mid Dec or slightly earlier? We need to find out when Mr. Wen will go to ZH n Macau n try to avoid him. BTW, I need only half a day in HK n SZ to take care of a little business first.

Pls let me know. My schedule is somewhat flexible.

Cheers!

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As mentioned by many MMs, those that venture onto our tiny island play in the motherland until stale or smelly liao.

Almost all are and have commando rankings liao hehehe
Hi esteemed Mr. Austin,

You're absolutely right. There r some exceptions of course. Some PRC gals who come to SGP hv never been WLs in the motherland before. Once a young n chio PLA cadet was among the lineup along the famous
L8/Talma Rd!

IMHO, once these MMs step inside a KTV n willingly choose to stay to make money, they hv become WLs, whether they will hv sex w/ customers or not.

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I would like to join u for some fun in Southern China n perhaps Macau in mid Dec or slightly earlier? We need to find out when Mr. Wen will go to ZH n Macau n try to avoid him. BTW, I need only half a day in HK n SZ to take care of a little business first.

Pls let me know. My schedule is somewhat flexible.
Hi bro WB, when are you returning? Now until mid Dec seems tight for me as I have several travelling trips to do in Asia including a business trip to Europe. But let's see.

BTW, it is Hu Da Ge visiting Macau and Zuhai in Dec. I don't know the exact dates. The place will be "dry and clean" during his visit...

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