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Old 22-06-2008, 12:24 PM
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I would rather save up the money to provide her with a good life when she come over with me to Singapore.

Guess I am just begin practical for thinking that.
Well, I give up. Hope you and her will have a very blissful marriage........Just bring her over and give all your $ for her to spend. If not enough, can borrow from banks, loan sharks, parents, relatives....etc. Take on a few more night jobs to sustain. You can do it!
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If you like her because she is from PRC, PM me and I will bring you to ZH to play.
Right on man, that's the best remedy for any1 in this situation, at least untill he end up with another MM - in which case at least he'll be wiser to handle the "here we go again, same old shit again..."

TS, get out of your little love well to explore the big jungle. It need not be an expensive venture, and it'll get your mind off her. BEst of all, u'll get to travel alone to more parts of PRC once you start this lifestyle

Also, after that you'll be able to join us to give advice to the next wave of bros who are in your situation then. It's ok, it's just part of growing up with SBF
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有谋者决战于千里之外. Nice account illustrating the battle of wits between you and the hooker. Thank goodness you survived. Hope you carry your battle scars and remind yourself that no one is infallible. 知己知彼 is the only way to ensure your position remains intact. Why is 知己 placed in front of 知彼? Because the good opponents always use our weaknesses against us. 食色性也 so assess yourself constantly. I do not believe in 百战百胜 because it just breeds our arrogance and that in turns becomes a weak point. Cherish your successes 见好就收.

Unfortunately many brothers here neglect these bits of fundamental wisdom and underestimate the WL ability to swoon and bait us. A bit of feeling, mix in loads of lies makes for a very good love story. Thats how these girls work. You gave a nice example of how a clever person with good people skills can be dragged in the dirt. Up your points bro D_Y_B.
EtherC, you r absolutely rite...as per my earlier post, i always tot i was invincible in the man/woman tug of war.....and oh yes, this episode in my life tot me many many things 30+ years of living in this earth didn't in one shrt span of time...tks
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I used to find excuses on my GF behalf when I cant contact her and things like that ... then one day I found out that those suspicions I had were all true and I was just bluffing myself that she not seeing other men .... from then onwards sad to say, I am ultra suspicious .... so difficult to get into reltionship with them as I do not and cannot afford such setbacks anymore ...
Bro Daniel133, glad you kinda opened up.....proud of you....there are many more in this forum who had somewat similiar experiences but too ashamed to speak out about it.......from what i know, letting it out will actually release a heavy burnen from your chest, no matter how much you've recovered from it.......kudos to you my brudder
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Re: Safe to travel alone with PRC GF back to China?

Woken up by a sms from my phone, it is from my GF, so I return the call to her.

Regret returning the call to her as had a very big argument with her over the phone.

Here how it goes...

She call me up saying that she feeling down, I ask her why she say she worried about her sickly dad, this is seen and verified in person it is true as i went with her to visit her dad.

Say she want to send her dad to the hospital for checkup but she a bit tight on the money, so I say ok how much you need? you tell me the amount I calcaute if I can i give u monthly a bit by a bit as bros you all know I don't earn that much and I can't really give her big amt unless I strike TOTO or take up loan again.Ya, not enuff money to treat old man in hospital can go KTV....1+1 not equals 2 again rite????

So she say no need lar tell you also no use you cannot help me also. Clamis also when I do things didn't think of her well begin.This is to make you feel like shit!

She say she is angry with herself for not able to help her dad but I think she is also piss with me for not able to help her with her dad.Reverse psycology

Can't really understand what the outburst for... She say also that day when I leave her to return to spore she is so upset that she got drunk...This one confirm BS just to make you feel that she cannot live without ya

keep saying that singapore men cannot be trusted afraid that she will suffer if she come voetr to singapore with me, then when I want to discuss things with her , keep saying y I keep asking why and how come and not doing any actions?See, classic example...she'll not directly tell you to give...she wants you to give without any persuasion.....a little obvious rite

Managed to calm my feelings down after sleeping only to wake up to a new load of shit...

See, now you know....it's starting...do not read my story & compare apple to apple...use the moral of it & compare...you'll see how it connects.......
Wake up...wake up.....
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For sure I can't raise the money for her she jolly well know my money stutiaion, even I have the money I also would save it up for her life she is going to lead with me.

I don't see the point in her having her keep asking even she know what the answer I am going to give.

Sometimes I also dont understand what does she mean I do things without thinking about her well-being...

Whatever I am doing now is planning for our future, how come she doesn't see it that way?
The whole idea is to make you feel you've not done enuff for her & not placed her as 1st priority in everything....no matter what you do, it'll never be enuff...all this is called mind F**king....and seems that it's taking it's effect on you...........

Whatever I am doing now is planning for our future, how come she doesn't see it that way?Simply becos, she is not looking at your point of view..........
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Thanks bro for your offer..

Maybe I am selfish to think this way, but her dad is like 1 foot in grave for what I give her the money which I don't have I would rather save up the money to provide her with a good life when she come over with me to Singapore.

Guess I am just begin practical for thinking that.
You said you showed her to your folks already rite...tok about marraige and all that blah blah........
You have any idea what they'll do now if you share this with your folks.....they'll prolly strangle you or maybe disown you...........and if i was your old man, i will get someone to finish her.....FYI, to get someone to DISAPPEAR in the motherland costs only about SGD1k....that's how much a life is worth there only.....aka worthless
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Re: Safe to travel alone with PRC GF back to China?

3 incidents that led me to the ultimate plot to get even with her..........

1st happened here before she went back......a week before actually.....
I said it's the weekend soon, let's spend the weekend together at a resort hotel......then i tot when she left, that's it......agreed
That saturday, picked her up and off we went.....so looking forward to it, both of us.
In the room, we started the usual bed wars......but as i penetrated, i stopped dead in my tracks...stared at her eyes big big............why so loose??????? We've not dun it in 1.5wks liao.......she didnt say anything, just turned her head to the side and tears starting rolling out..........clear sign of guilt. Asked her why she is tearing, she says cos she's hurt i accuse her........I said, you know my bro's a doc, let go for a DNA swab......if you're rite and I'm wrong, you can do anything you want to me or ask me for anything i can afford & you'll have it....if i'm right, I'LL KILL U!
She stood up....wore her clothes and said I wanna go home...........
Sent her home......1st unexplained mystery

2nd mystery......as posted earlier, is the so called disappearance of the mobile phone whilst on the mountain trip with her mom which i've already elaborated earlier...mind you, that incident is a total of 1wk

3rd and last.......when she came back last time.....remember she say she didn't go supper but the customer brought her to GL to see the street walkers?????
Well here's what happened.....one nite, the company had a makan session at GL....one of the steamboat joints.....ended at about 5 so i went to fetch her.....since in GL, i tot, now is the best time to debunk what she told me as another lie.......
When she came up the car, i asked her wanna go home or go for a drive...she said up to you lao gong......goooooood
Drove straight to lor28 stopped at the entrance of the lane....she asked why stopped, so i told her, now we gonna experiment on your streetwalker viewing session......she said ok.......can hear from her tone she's nervous liao.....well, that's me......always testing things i find i cannot accept to proove i am not insane or delusional.......
Took out my mobile, started the stop watch & off we went.....told her to tell me if i was too fast or too slow cos wanna maintain the same pace they travelled that so called nite............
By the time we finished our rounding, endup up at the start point just after the nicoll highway exit into GL, i stopped the clock.........20mins!
She was speechless......I said, ok now i'll drive home at a constant speed.......drove in to the pie hwy & set cruise ctrl to 100kph.....reached home in 10mins
Can see her face, like dunno where to dig a hole and hide inside.........
When we reached home, she was dead quiet, then i started.....I am a very rationale person.....everything has a start and end and everything we do has a reason for it.......
No you tell me, 30mins plus your journey time from the KTV to GL, another 15mins the most????????? So where did the rest of the missing time go? she was tongue tied.....but just kept insisting that they really went there to view the street walkers......then started to cry.......i told her straight, now, we've got 3 super unexplained mysteries in our relationship...and whatever you say, we both know what happened.......takes a thief to cath a thief you know...i exclaimed.........and please dun cry, crying doesnt make me weak...it actually pisses me off more....stopped...wow the crying can stop immediately.....POWER!
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Well, I give up. Hope you and her will have a very blissful marriage........Just bring her over and give all your $ for her to spend. If not enough, can borrow from banks, loan sharks, parents, relatives....etc. Take on a few more night jobs to sustain. You can do it!
I know all bros here had my welfare at heart but I am too wounded up in my little hole of mine.

I need time to see the bigger picture...
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Re: Safe to travel alone with PRC GF back to China?

Maybe I can share some of my experience here so TS can have a better judgment. Mine involved a non WL and is someone who has been living in SG for more than 8 years, and someone quite prominent in the media industry.

I was introduced to this PRC more than 4years ago through our family doctor. We started dating, and before we knew it, we got married. All within a span time of 6 months. Mind you, I was late 30s then and I have been in the playing field since my early 20s.

My mentality then was, she has been staying in SG for more than 8 years, she has her PR status through her profession, the way she talk, act and behave is very different from the PRC I encountered through my experience in China. A perfect situation where she doesn't marry me for the PR status, she doesn't marry me because of money and she doesn't marry me in order to lead a better life.

However, my marriage only lasted me for less than 6 months as when we moved to China, the person I knew in SG is no longer the same person. Her mentality, perspectives, obnoxious and finally, her true colour started to emerge once we were there. Lies, deceptions, betrayal started to float one at a time. Money was ca hooted out from me with the help of her family.

I finally seen through her tricks and I pulled the plug and ended our marriage (before that, I had done something to protect my assets and money, to make sure that she will not get anything out from me). Yes, money was lost and feelings was hurt, but at the same time, I actually felt much happier and relieved. I told myself that I might not know what I want in a relationship, but I definitely know what I DON'T WANT in a relationship.

So for bros here, do not think that just because they are not WLs, you are in safe hands. Someone as prominent as my ex-wife can also behaved and acted worst than them. I have had a few relationships since then with some KTVs gals during my stay in China, and I have developed a mentality that I will make sure that these gals will spend money on me instead of me spending money on them. I have learned my lesson within the short less than 6 months of my marriage and the 2 years I spent living in China has been enjoyable.
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I know all bros here had my welfare at heart but I am too wounded up in my little hole of mine.

I need time to see the bigger picture...
No offence, but when u see the bigger picture le, l feel that ur life is really in a big mess and in ruins.

when Prc meimei are involved, cannot talk feelings, loyalty, or trust wif them de. They dun care abt all these de. If u talk the above 3 with them, u are jus digging ur grave, living in a delusional world of urs.

u may feel that wad l am talking is a bit too harsh. But my frenz words were even much more harsher. He told me, prc mei mei are jus parasites, how can one take in the words of a parasite?
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No offence, but when u see the bigger picture le, l feel that ur life is really in a big mess and in ruins.

when Prc meimei are involved, cannot talk feelings, loyalty, or trust wif them de. They dun care abt all these de. If u talk the above 3 with them, u are jus digging ur grave, living in a delusional world of urs.

u may feel that wad l am talking is a bit too harsh. But my frenz words were even much more harsher. He told me, prc mei mei are jus parasites, how can one take in the words of a parasite?
They always think we make of money that's what I don't like about them!

That is why my policy is cheong, fuck and move on to the next tighter pussy.
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I know all bros here had my welfare at heart but I am too wounded up in my little hole of mine.

I need time to see the bigger picture...
Everytime you bluff yourself to adopt the wait n see attitude, you will just slide deeper n deeper.......look at it this way, like i and many bros here mentioned...the stuff that's emerging are all too familiar liao......
If you contunue this, you may reach a point of no return and then fade away in to a very dark dark corner......
You will need support but who's gonna do that afterall, you had your chance...like everyone is stretching their hand out to you to prevent you from drowning, but you just slap all the hands n slowly but surely....drown.....aint worth it.......
If that day does come, which i am sure everyone here can see it already, and you start coming for people to feel pity and encourage you, trust me, you'll be flamed like no tmr cos everyone and some even dare to pen their experiences to you.....but you chose to look to lala land instead....but i'm sure you cant be that dumb by then cos i'm sure you will never have the face to come back as your true self anymore.....
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Re: Safe to travel alone with PRC GF back to China?

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He told me, prc mei mei are jus parasites, how can one take in the words of a parasite?
Hey bro, that's exactly wat my close bro said to me too....hmmmmmm for all you know, we have a mutual friend......he's very into WOW now...same dude?
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Re: Safe to travel alone with PRC GF back to China?

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.FYI, to get someone to DISAPPEAR in the motherland costs only about SGD1k....that's how much a life is worth there only.....aka worthless
Ya.. bro TS.

Life is cheap in PRC so even my PRC GF told me that we should juz look to the present and dun dream of the future since life there is so unpredictable.

Their thinking is "If we are happy together then okie loh.. no need to get married UNLESS I want PR".. If not happy then break up loh

Why try to be romantic and give worthless promises, money more impt..
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