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Old 23-12-2008, 03:19 PM
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what to do? times are bad.

just read news somewhere: World Economic Crisis could put 25 million people out of job

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Re: Understanding Vietnamese Life Partner

thanks boss for the lesson, I chinese educated, so u know la

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Should be ".. ignoring the ADVICE from the senior brothers here.".

"Advice" is a non countable noun; you do not add an "s" to make it plural.

"Advice" is like "Rice". You say... "Please pass me the Rice." You don't say "Please pass me the rices" because "Rice", like "advice", is a non countable noun.

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Should be ".. ignoring the ADVICE from the senior brothers here.".

"Advice" is a non countable noun; you do not add an "s" to make it plural.

"Advice" is like "Rice". You say... "Please pass me the Rice." You don't say "Please pass me the rices" because "Rice", like "advice", is a non countable noun.

There are many other examples. To test your knowledge of non countable nouns, go to English Language Quiz - Countable or Non-countable Nouns (I-TESL-J) and take the test.
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Re: Understanding Vietnamese Life Partner

I agreed to her thinking!

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To my wife, there is only 2 types of VN gals - the good ones and the bad ones.

She dun see Vn gals as WL or non WL. For she sees the difference being a choice in jobs. And to add on, no Vn gals chose to be WLs as a career(life-long). Therefore there is no case to comment on a VN gal who has once or sometime in her life chosen to go the path of a WL. Instead the discussion should be on good Vn gals vs bad Vn gals.
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To my wife, there is only 2 types of VN gals - the good ones and the bad ones.
Till now I have not found a good ger among the WL.
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Till now I have not found a good ger among the WL.
No worries. Your turn to find a good girl among the working ladies should come one day.
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Re: Understanding Vietnamese Life Partner

Viet gals work as WL for 2 main reasons, namely (1) to support family (2) material gains. But to a large extend that i know of, to support family is the main reason. Most of the time, a family with a WL daughter will not work but just wait for the daughter to bring money back. As for being GOOD or BAD, it will depend on your perception of GOOD n BAD. The easiest way for a lady with low education to earn more money is to become a WL. Flesh trade is the oldest trade in the world. But after becoming a WL, most will choose to con foreigner guys (its a trend leh) as they believe foreigner guys are more loaded. So if the gal is good natured, becomes a WL for a living and con a foreigner guy because every other WL is doing it... do you consider her GOOD or BAD?
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Viet gals work as WL for 2 main reasons, namely (1) to support family (2) material gains.
Viet, Thai, Indo, Pinoy, Laos, Cam...... Most of the countries in this region are still very cultural... Once ma ma or pa pa cries and says no money, the filial daughter will try her best to find money for parents. Filial is good but selling body because family is lazy is stupid.
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Re: Understanding Vietnamese Life Partner

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Viet gals work as WL for 2 main reasons, namely (1) to support family (2) material gains. But to a large extend that i know of, to support family is the main reason. Most of the time, a family with a WL daughter will not work but just wait for the daughter to bring money back. As for being GOOD or BAD, it will depend on your perception of GOOD n BAD. The easiest way for a lady with low education to earn more money is to become a WL. Flesh trade is the oldest trade in the world. But after becoming a WL, most will choose to con foreigner guys (its a trend leh) as they believe foreigner guys are more loaded. So if the gal is good natured, becomes a WL for a living and con a foreigner guy because every other WL is doing it... do you consider her GOOD or BAD?

Haha i knew my short-cut post would need further explaining....
Bro Singviet you are right in saying the two main reasons for their plunge into the trade. In addition, the majority of them are here for their family.

As to your view that most Wls' families do not work,i have to agree to a large extent, although this did not happen in my case.

1.) My wife had a friend who came here to work to support her entire family of over 10 ppl in Vietnam. It was crazy!! It helps that she was taller, more voluptuous, and certainly one of the more beautiful Wls i have seen. Man falls head over heels for her looks and figure, add in a bit of KC-ing and they're damn! I know of this guy who gave over 30k to her so that she would marry him....in the end she rejected him...their family would spend money in vietnam like nobody's business and had a lot of "face" in their area. Parties, new motorcycles, good food, extravagant living was the way. Till today, she's still working as WL in Viet cos cannot come SG now.....still as broke as 5 years ago when she came here......

2.) My wife have another friend who also came here to work to support her family. This friend of hers was also not bad looking as she was the one i first set my eyes on b4 i knew my wife a few mins later. She also had to support her extended family back home. However, she knew that she could only work for a certain period of time. Her concern were not on buying the latest fads and motors but on securing her family future. Although her family did not work, she never allowed them to misuse her money. It was spent on buying land and building a dormitory for students to rent..near a school....and in doing so, she created jobs for her family...they had to handle the day to day affairs of the dormitory. Also she set up a internet cafe when it was not so common like now in vietnam. This was maintained by her nephew whom she gave money to study in Vietnam's University. Last i heard, she can retire if she wants, cos recently the Viet govt bought back the land from her for state projects and she got a huge sum of money as compensation.

So is example (1.) or (2.) a good or bad vn gal?


So, i think good or bad vn gals is about their outlook of life, their approach to living their lives and their fundamental reasons that led to them earning money from man.

I think to judge them based on their stint time as WLs is like saying fishermen are Fish murderers and are destroying the bio-diversity of our Earth.

My point is they are only doing what their job requires of them. Will you come across fisherman that tells his crew..."ok thats enough, lets not trawl the sea again cos we have enough fish for ourselves fo the next few days..."???

Similarly, whats the reason for a gal to offer herself to customers? Yes its money! To expect these WLs to tell you the "rules of the game" is like telling you,"hey you be careful ah! i am going to empty your bank account! So when when i ask for any amount of money remember not to give to me ok!"

Do we really expect Girls's to tell you that? Then they might as well stay at home and sleep!!

Problem is we guys esp singaporeans are so pampered and protected from the harsh realities of the world. So much so that when things happened, its never our fault. It's always him, her, them but never ME! In many other countries, people become street smart because they "paid school fees" and were cheated b4. So it became a way of their life but they only blame themselves and their own gullibility and stupidity and made sure they learnt their lessons! Its the same in China, Vietnam,India etc etc.... In Singapore, it about cursing and swearing at the accused and say she cheated me this and that la...cry father cry mother cry brother and sister...but after a while they find a new target and the whole cycle starts all over again...its so cliche to say ""be careful of the gal"" now.

So my point is a girl should be judged based on her life before her stint as a WL and her life after her stint as WL. Good or Bad, you have to find out!!

So from a macro point of view, it looks quite tedious!

Well, whos saying that any relationship is as simple as "i know you, you smile at me , let's get married" ????

It never is, never was and never will be as such!!

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I think the main concern is about cheating, not about being a WL. WL earn a living thru hard work, and we have to respect them for that hard work. I do agree that singaporean man are easy targets for these Viet WL. We grow up in a society that is well protected by the government. Little thing call police. Being cheated is a BIG thing. When i first went HCM City to do business, i was simply quite naive. I didn't know that doing business in HCM City is not that simple. I learnt my lessons hard in HCM CIty. But its also thru these lessons learnt that i managed to expand overseas into Cambodia and Myanmar. Complete trust in people is the last thing i will do now. We cannot blame local man for what they are, its the result of society .
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When i first went HCM City to do business, i was simply quite naive. I didn't know that doing business in HCM City is not that simple. I learnt my lessons hard in HCM CIty. But its also thru these lessons learnt that i managed to expand overseas into Cambodia and Myanmar. Complete trust in people is the last thing i will do now. We cannot blame local man for what they are, its the result of society .

Well said bro singviet!!

In other societies, 100% trust is never accorded to anyone! You take everything said and shown with caution. You have only yourself to blame should things go wrong. You try calling police in Vietnam and you might find out that well, one of the top brass is in cahoots with the cheater!! haha!!

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