Successful stories with WLs

[EtherC]

TS, frankly there are very few women in this world who would refuse pampering. We have to be realistic with our expectations. As for girls running away when we guys meet with financial problems I have to say that if we chase after good lookers who are easily bedazzled by our 5Cs then we can't jolly well blame anyone else if we end up with a materialistic vase-bitch. I know many postgraduates who own cars and condos and really that doesn't guarantee a wonderful wife/GF. I'm sure you have your faults like the rest of us so if you're not perfect how do you expect your future partner to be flawless?

So we know you're highly educated, now comes the issue of whether you can bridge the cultural & educational gaps between this WL and yourself. What do you think about, what type of movies do you enjoy, what topics do you like to talk about?And what of her? You may find that with a huge difference in culture and opinions you'll run out of common topics in a short time. Passion has an inverse relationship with time, the lovey dovey feeling will fade after sometime and that's when the problems surface.

Don't plug a hole in the ship with a rag. I'm sure you're smart enough to know what I'm talking about.

[DTCEPL]

Bro tptheprc

You hope to have a life with a ex-pros from Thai. My most sincere advise is to stayout of it while you still can.

You may have known her only for a while. But once you begin to really understand her, be involved in her daily life, be part of her life, you can never be able to take the pressure and the pain that is associated with such a relationship. You can never imagine the pain when you ever think of what she does in the little room to earn her livings. She do have a choice, of course she do have her problems therefore choosing such a career, but she do have a choice - and she just wanted the fast way out, fastest and more money in the shortest time possible, but I don't called it the easy way out because it is never easy to be in this line of work.

Sincerely, once you are too deep into her life, you will be hurt really really bad. Whenever you are alone, your mind is not occupied, and you start to think and imagine what she does with other men, day after day, one after another, you can never imagine the amount of pain one have bear and endure. Day after day, the pain will cut you worst then a knife. It will leave you breeding and you can only blame yourself for falling for her.

Leave while you still can Bro. You also have a choice, and don't choose the path that can hurt you so much emotionally. Love in such situation can destroy you, don't repeat or step into something that most or almost all man cannot accept.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

1. Is it really not possible that the girl that works in a legal house can never come back to singapore or even a PR here?As a tourist, yes, but PR status, NO WAY. Cos the authorities knows her past history & occupation based on application
2. If it is impossible for her to come back, will changing her identity give her help?New identity means new person, new history, means no undesirable record.
3. Is it really that expensive to get a identity changed in thailand?
hope to hear from u bros really soon.Isnt ex at all. Some convicts or fugitives even go there to get Thai identity hahaha but i wont dwell into this. There, got $$$$ nothing is impossible but be careful who you approach for help, for finding the wrong venue may lead to you own downfall.

[FL Lover]

Originally Posted by tptheprc

i don't think i will regret cos she is my chance of getting the kind of life i want. a simple life. i agree that she may not have a good start in life, but maybe she will be a fine lady in the future. anyway i believe nowadays sg girl are no different or worst compared to WLs, cos they sleep around for free as long as u can buy them a few drinks or show them i own a nissan GTR or my own place. Don't u bros agree to my statements?

Hi,

Read up yor threads and cant help to pm you. YOu have replied to other bros that you have a successful career, a good foundation of education background.

You have mentioned that you have dated alot of sg gers but all seems to be materialistic.. and in the process, you met your thai tirak.

To you,
1) She is different than other sg gers.
2) She is wonderful in everything, takes good care of you, good in sex and treats you like a king
3) She is born with a bad background and you dont mind.
4) She mades you so happy that you feel bliss with her

Bro, I have gone through what you have been through. You ganna 100% KC and really in bad shape.
Are you sure that you are looking for the right kind of love in the right place? I am not saying that WLs cannot fall in love but the point I am putting across to you is that how well do you trust her? Afterall, you have only met her for a couple of months and you have decided to go back with her?

You mentioned that you are looking for a simple life.. Do you need to move to other country to have that? In sg, you too can have a simple life but you choose not to have... It is just a matter of choice... You can take up a lesser pay or even a less stressful job..

Lastly you mentioned that SG GERS sleep around with you as long as you treats them with drinks or going over to yor place? I THINK YOU MIGHT HAVE OVER-RATE YORSELF and also added insults to all SG GERS.. DO you seriously think all SG GERS ARE LIKE THAT? I think you have only met a handful of bad apples and not all sg gers are like that. If you have to make a comparision, I would say your tirak is even worse right? As long as I can pay for her, I can to Fxxk yor tirak and do whatever I want to her and thats applied to anyone who can pay her too...

I would ask you to consider very carefully cause the road is going to be long and hard plus if she one day dumps you for a more handsome, richer guy, the fall is not going to be easy. I have seen my friends who could not let go of their pasts and sometimes I had to lend a helping hand to them.

You are a highly educated guy, DO NOT HURT THE REST OF THE PEOPLE WHO CARE ABT YOU ESP YOR PARENTS.

[siopu99]

Bro tptheprc,

Read liao also buay tahan and got to post. Every suggestion or advice or words of concern that bros give you are from their own experiences or from those they have seen. The final decision still lies with you and you have got to be prepared to LET GO if things are not right. Believe me, letting go is easier said than done.

Here are a few things that you've got to be mentally and financially prepared to;

1. Not have a child with her until both of you are 101% sure that you want to have a family.
2. Understand the financial needs of her family and be prepared to HELP (not feed. Feed is just giving money) and work out a plan within your means. You still need to have your own personal savings. Dumping 100% into any marriage in any country.... by my past experience, is really DUMB. Things change and people change. You've got to be prepared for an amicable end.
3. Spend lots and lots of time (and hence lots of trips to see her) to understand her more - her goals, desires, values (not valuables), her character, etc. Know that in any relationship, things are always rosy during courtship. COMMUNICATION is key. Any marriage without healthy communication will most likely lose its flames. If there is nothing that you 2 can talk about and laugh together about, debate (not quarrel) about, etc and you 2 always end up fucking all the time and nothing more, think twice.
4. Forgive her past 1000000000%. If you ever get into a quarrel, you MUST BE PREPARED NOT TO EVER BRING UP HER PAST. Don't EVEN THINK of it... EVER.
5. Pick yourself up and move on in search of a better life if (and I say IF) she turns out to be a con. Or if you cannot accept that she has to go back to her old trade if you can't solve her financial woes or fill her financial holes.

Years ago I started a relationship with a WL. Bros in SBF gave me good advice - some say abandon, some say go for it. Whatever it was, I thanked them and made my own decision. I went for it. Did it turn out well? Yes and we have been with each other for years now. I got her through uni and she now works in an IT company in her home country, I bought her family a piece of land (not big acres lah) for them to do farming and start a small business to feed themselves. Set expectations right with her and her family, etc. Basically, I know she does not have high expectations and just want a simple life. These years, she keeps telling me not to work too hard and overstress myself because she don't need much money to be together with me. Maybe I'm lucky... but she is not. I'm a fucking butterfly (so blast me).

I have another GF in another city of that country. Gave her a business to run and that takes care of her + her family's financial needs and I still get some spending money out of it. She's now having my kid.

I'm not advising you to go for it. There are of course other not-that-successful stories if you do a search in SBF. If the character of the girl is not right, be she local or from whatever country, and you choose to be too blind to see, you'll be fucked. And in whatever case, when you marry someone, you also marry the entire family (local or not) and the family's problems (financial or not) - and you've got to help solve those problems.

Be it GF or wife, women (local or foreign) still need to eat and will have material desires. Look at the married man who has to pay $5000 credit card bills every month because of the wife's/GF's spending. Look at the man whose GF/wife saves and invest his money. It doesn't matter what country they come from or what they did in the past. Right? Wrong? You decide.

Ultimately, ask yourself:

1. What do you want? And does that make you happy?
2. Who do you want to be with?
3. Are you willing to make sacrifices to get what you want?

The rest is up to you. I'm getting old and starting to nag here. Good luck to you!

[GoForIt]

Originally Posted by tptheprc

Hmmm.... really good suggestion give by u bros. i have a few questions that i want to ask after looking at the replys.
1. Is it really not possible that the girl that works in a legal house can never come back to singapore or even a PR here? ( tourist yes pr no )
2. If it is impossible for her to come back, will changing her identity give her help? ( new identity with no bad records help )
3. Is it really that expensive to get a identity changed in thailand?
hope to hear from u bros really soon. ( depend on whom u look for,cld be 200 till few k )

ive a buddy dat married a thai wl,nw living in sg n they've a daughter too.
he went to thai n start a family with her saving of 10k+ fr her job.
stay there for 2 yrs n there r alot of things to be adjusted cos of different culture.
he got her another id n came to sg n live with him.
nw he is working hard to support this relation.

if u wish to carry ur relationship to thai,pls leave ur back door open.
still can come back here if life is too harsh there.
could u control not mentioning her past in e future?
if no then u better stop thinking of carrying on e relationship!
if yes then can u accept dat whatever come to haunt u abt her past u've to be lan lan n keep quiet cos u ask for it,by knowing her past n opt for a realtionship

all e best to whatever choice u make but mus be prepared dat life dwn there is tough n endurance is much needed

[tptheprc]

I've read the reply and start to have some worries.
the good things is that we have never quarrel over anything regarding her work. conversations are most of the time good and full of laughter. she have also told me her plans after going back.

the worries are that I am not doing well in my investments nowadays and is pretty much taking out money to maintain these investments. I still have some savings and an apartment. should i bring my savings to start a new life in thailand?
At least if things dun work out i still have an apartment.
In addition, i am starting a new company soon at the end of this year. Really troubled. what should i do?
stay or go???

[ekemono]

Originally Posted by tptheprc

but maybe she will be a fine lady in the future.

Bro, it is not a good idea to think in this way. You should get involved with a gal for whom she is, not what you wish she would turn out to be, cos most of the time, it won't come true.

Also, I read that you repeatedly considering going over to her country to stay. While I am not suggesting Thailand is lousy but why must you leave your homeland? I assume that eventually when you get to be with her, you will be the one to put food on the table. So if the financial responsibility lies with you, it make no sense to settle down in a foreign land unless you are suggesting that only after all these donkey years in SG, you just discovered and consperm that you can be much more "competitive" elsewhere.
Have you ever in the past work or run a business in Thailand successfully?

I also read in your last post that you intend to leave an apartment in SG and comes back if things dun work out well...
Then why go over with all your hard earned money and time if you are not confidence enough that it will work? Even before you move half your ass to Thailand you already carries such tots. So do you.., in your clear mind??.. know what you are doing?
If so much doubt why not spend some money and hook her up on a student pass? She will still be all yours in SG.

It seems like you focus on her too much and have not put any interest in yourself, risking your roots, financial stability.. all too sudden.
Was it that at this point in time you fear of ppl seeing you being with her? Or was it that deep down you dun trust that she will not discreetly maintain contact with her regular clients, so moving her to Thailand is one sure way to prevent that? One in SG one in TH. Wat can happen...
Or really really.. you ain't really interested in the future but all you crave for now is to take a long long break and while at it, f#ck the living daylight of of her for as long as you can..

[gertt234]

Hi Bro,

I don't have much experience in all this. And like you, I'm one of those very sick of life in SG.

But maybe like what others in the thread has advise you, you might want to consider the following.

1. Let her go back first and keep in contact with her. Nowadays call Thailand is cheap. Just sign up with Starhub or pay extra 5.35 to Singtel or M1.

2. Learn the language & culture.

3. Find another WL with same type of looks/mannerism and see if your feelings for her is shaken.

4. Since she's been to your place, she "knows" your assets which might mean that this could end up as a KC trap.

[siopu99]

Bro,

Always leave a backdoor for yourself. Things change and people change also. Leaving a backdoor doesn't mean you don't trust her coz' it's just putting a safety net for your benefit and also for her benefit.

If things go wrong, you have a place to come back to heal your wounds and start over afresh.

If things go wrong and you have a backdoor to turn to, it will be much easier to part amicably. Parting is so much harder to do and may turn into violence if one feels that he/she has been forced into a corner with no where to turn to.

On the other hand, what if living conditions in Thailand is not as "attractive" to you or both of you some years down the road? Where would you go?

Frankly if you're setting up a business and looking at the way you want to leave everything behind and go without a backup plan, eh... no offence bro, but I wouldn't want to be your client.


Think carefully lah.

[Coolsaint77]

Everyone's situation is different, you are an educated man so you should be able to judge for yourself her personality. Indeed it is quite possible to find in a Thai girl what you don't find in SG girl.

BUT... never never uproot yourself from your turf, ie never sacrifice your career - this has to remain as a constant in your relationship. All else fail, at least you would still be on your foot to press "restart"

Originally Posted by tptheprc

I've read the reply and start to have some worries.
the good things is that we have never quarrel over anything regarding her work. conversations are most of the time good and full of laughter. she have also told me her plans after going back.

the worries are that I am not doing well in my investments nowadays and is pretty much taking out money to maintain these investments. I still have some savings and an apartment. should i bring my savings to start a new life in thailand?
At least if things dun work out i still have an apartment.
In addition, i am starting a new company soon at the end of this year. Really troubled. what should i do?
stay or go???

[tptheprc]

Its all over. A sad ending to a made believe beautiful story.... Drink, drank and got drunk. Finally realise how painful it can hurt.

[steve_74]

Originally Posted by tptheprc

Its all over. A sad ending to a made believe beautiful story.... Drink, drank and got drunk. Finally realise how painful it can hurt.

Time heal all wounds bro .. Take it as a lesson learnt
Hope u find ur true love soon

[pussyman72]

Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

2. If it is impossible for her to come back, will changing her identity give her help?New identity means new person, new history, means no undesirable record.

Wrong. Even change her id blah blah blah still got one more everyone forget finger print. dont forget false declaration to ICA = Jail and fine for both party. Think carefully before doing it

Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

3. Is it really that expensive to get a identity changed in thailand?
hope to hear from u bros really soon.Isnt ex at all. Some convicts or fugitives even go there to get Thai identity hahaha but i wont dwell into this. There, got $$$$ nothing is impossible but be careful who you approach for help, for finding the wrong venue may lead to you own downfall.

well few yrs back making a new id, new household book is ez. just pay 8 to 10k sgd and u can make one but be prepare to be blackmail..

now a days almost everything gone computerize so it not as ez as b4 but still can be done

[pussyman72]

Originally Posted by tptheprc

Its all over. A sad ending to a made believe beautiful story.... Drink, drank and got drunk. Finally realise how painful it can hurt.

nvm so long u know is not ez can le take care

chokdee krup