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Re: Long Distance Tirak Relationship - Myth or Reality

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Thanks Bro BM for the advice! Erm.. abt the "zhao buay siam" pattern, can go through abit? Coz i'm newbie n hurt in love be4... Thanks alot!

Bro Free! Good luck! And all the best to u n ur ger! Wishes n prayers 4 u bro!

The thing is that if one day you wake up and realise that you are been forced to do things by her that you dislike then it's time to make a decision whether to show hand or tolerate. When you are blinded in love, nobody will be able to change your opinion towards her, normally when you realise it, probably it's too late. So take things step by step, just see what is her "real character" is then you make a decision. Even if you make a bad decision, you also "gum wan" cos no body force you to do so. There's no fool-proof method to test thai girls, just ask yourself how far are you willing to go, if think you can just do it or no, pls leave it!
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The thing is that if one day you wake up and realise that you are been forced to do things by her that you dislike then it's time to make a decision whether to show hand or tolerate. When you are blinded in love, nobody will be able to change your opinion towards her, normally when you realise it, probably it's too late. So take things step by step, just see what is her "real character" is then you make a decision. Even if you make a bad decision, you also "gum wan" cos no body force you to do so. There's no fool-proof method to test thai girls, just ask yourself how far are you willing to go, if think you can just do it or no, pls leave it!
A case of "love is blind, marriage restores its sight!"
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Re: Long Distance Tirak Relationship - Myth or Reality

How can LDTR be a myth?

When I got married to my wife, we spend about 3 - 4 months out of a year together for the first couple of years.

When my son was born, I visited my wife in her village once every 1 to 2 months for 4-5 days for 3 years although there were periods of a couple of months together in SG and in BKK.

It was only last year that we settled down together in Hatyai which means already a year.

But considering the time spent apart, we had a long period of LDTR and by all means, it's reality.
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A case of "love is blind, marriage restores its sight!"

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I would say I'm blinded with love before but now is too late to turn back cos me and my gf had reached to a stage of settling down. But I would say it's all because of the child and I'm honest enough to admit that I had lost some of my feelings towards her due to her behaviour in certain issues but we are men and we have to be responsible of our actions and the consequences. So even the love is not the same as before, the show still needs to go on cos there's not point crying over spill milk and must try to make the best of it as it's me who chose this path and even it's wrong, I also "lan lan" and "gum wan". I believe there are a lot of bros out there who share the same situation as me, be it if it's thai,sg or viet cos there's always a saying " Ren Zai Jiang Huo Shen Bu You ji"..............
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How can LDTR be a myth?

For me it"s you who will decide whether it's a myth or reality cos it takes 2 hands to clap and a lot of factors will determine the outcome of this relationship. I understand there are a lot of bros out there had failed relationship with sg girls before and they are tempted to try out LDTR. Cos when they meet a perfect thai or viet girl with loving,care and tender, I believe all will be melted by her heart like "Tio Kong Tao". Her image will be always in your mind and YOU JUST CAN'T STOP THINKING OF HER! I would say the initial and the ending feeling would be the best cos the beginning stage is always perfect and if the ending is good like marriage with kids and live your life happily together ever after. Does it sounds like a fairy tale? But there are bros like TV who is enjoying LDTR but bro FREE who is confused about LDTR. So it's up to you to decide..............
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Re: Long Distance Tirak Relationship - Myth or Reality

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"YOU ARE CORRECT BRO"!

I would say I'm blinded with love before but now is too late to turn back cos me and my gf had reached to a stage of settling down. But I would say it's all because of the child and I'm honest enough to admit that I had lost some of my feelings towards her due to her behaviour in certain issues but we are men and we have to be responsible of our actions and the consequences. So even the love is not the same as before, the show still needs to go on cos there's not point crying over spill milk and must try to make the best of it as it's me who chose this path and even it's wrong, I also "lan lan" and "gum wan". I believe there are a lot of bros out there who share the same situation as me, be it if it's thai,sg or viet cos there's always a saying " Ren Zai Jiang Huo Shen Bu You ji"..............

I foreseen you are in for more shits and surprises ahead.
Thai lady doesn't get any much better after marriage; they get worse in most cases.
Don't expect her to change, she will change you instead.
Be mentally prepare for it.
The only way to handle them is through tight financial control and always acts no money.
By then , if she has any ill intention towards marriage, her 'lucifer horns' will appear.

It always works for me.

Btw, i'm married and stayed in thailand for the last 11yrs.My thai PR is on the way.

When they(thai) speak, i already know what they are up to liao.
That's why ,my mother- in-law and wife's side relatives all dare not approach me for money matters Cuz i'm always poor.
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Re: Long Distance Tirak Relationship - Myth or Reality

Just to add one more important thing.
In the past, my in law likes to use my wife to pressure me to buy this and that.
Now we have 3 kids, i'm using my children, through my wife to fight back.
Whenever a decision is to make regarding money matter, we always put our kid’s future as first priority.
Now most of our money goes to International schooling for them, where got money for those unnecessary items/requests .
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I foreseen you are in for more shits and surprises ahead.
Thai lady doesn't get any much better after marriage; they get worse in most cases.
Don't expect her to change, she will change you instead.
Be mentally prepare for it.
The only way to handle them is through tight financial control and always acts no money.
By then , if she has any ill intention towards marriage, her 'lucifer horns' will appear.

Thanks for your recommendation, frankly speaking I already forsee some of this kind of shit will happen when we got together. I'm okay with some of the requests and after we men are supposed to take care of the women, only those unreasonable or unrealistic request will be turn away. As for the family part, we already compromised that her family would be taken care by her as she has her own income too so I guess with my monthly allowances it would be enough to sustain. Most of the cases gets worsen due to no control beforehand thus breaking the threshold limit. I guess you a man of great control over your woman and I respect you for that.
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Thanks for your recommendation, frankly speaking I already forsee some of this kind of shit will happen when we got together. I'm okay with some of the requests and after we men are supposed to take care of the women, only those unreasonable or unrealistic request will be turn away. As for the family part, we already compromised that her family would be taken care by her as she has her own income too so I guess with my monthly allowances it would be enough to sustain. Most of the cases gets worsen due to no control beforehand thus breaking the threshold limit. I guess you a man of great control over your woman and I respect you for that.

Remember to register your marriage in thailand, NEVER NEVER to do it in sg hor.Don't later get hang by sg women charter law.
There a thai saying : In Thailand , marriage take you 10 minute to register but to divorce , it only take 5 mins to settle.

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I have observed there are a reasonable number of us samsters who are involved with a woman from LOS or another foreign country, and there is no central place to share our experiences. And I agree with Samcutey that it is not appropriate to submit posts pertaining to this issue in threads focussing on other issues...
Hi bro.

Myth or reality? Well that's really up to you and your tirak isn't it? As the old saying goes, it takes 2 hands to clap.

I seem to notice a lot of bros who not necessarily in this thread but ard this forum who seem to paint a rather bad picture of Thai women which I put it to having some bad experience with some WL. I really feel that the answer to the seemingly different culture from ours is not to be found in MPs, bars and GCs...

Maybe I have been lucky in that I have yet to really had to 'chuay' or 'liang' any of my tiraks (be they WLs or not WLs).

Back to the thread, the first base was when I was in EX Crescendo in the late 80s. During R&R, I met my tirak who was holidaying in Kanchanaburi and happened to have lunch with her sis and bro in-law (Singaporean) where we were in the River Kwai Hotel. We hit it off almost immediately and although I spent only about a day there, we managed to exchange contacts. Her English was pretty good (what a relief).

Found out she was a travel guide who brought Thai tourists to countries like Singapore and acted as their interpreter and facilitator.

Upon my return to Singapore and completion of my course, I sought all the avenues available to get a posting back to Saiyoke Camp. This happened about three months later.

I was so happy to get my posting (albeit for only 6 months) as I could then get to know my tirak better. Although I was only 18 then, I was pretty sure that she was the one.

During my times in Saiyoke, I spent as much time as I could with the locals to polish my language. Perhaps it was the impetus to master the language to communicate with my tirak that led to my rapid advancement.

The times we spent when she would drive up to Kanchanaburi from Bangkok to meet up with me were the best. I remember doing lots to get time off so as to rendezvous with her...

Anyway, 6 months passed very quickly and it wasn't long before I was supposed to RTU. We bade our farewell and she promised to take on more assignments to Singapore so that we could meet up.

We never met up after that for not long after coming back to Singapore, I received a page which I returned the call, only to realise it was her sister calling me to tell me that my tirak had died in a motor accident when her car ploughed into the back of a truck...

Well, so that's my first tirak. Even today, I still wonder if not for that fateful night, whether we would be happily married... My parents were cool with it, but being in the 80s then, everybody else thought I was going out with a WL...

BTW, her name is Ketai (rabbit)...
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We never met up after that for not long after coming back to Singapore, I received a page which I returned the call, only to realise it was her sister calling me to tell me that my tirak had died in a motor accident when her car ploughed into the back of a truck...
Finally got to know your story now. Can imagine how you felt that time. Like a bombshell...... but I guess by now, wounds would have healed but memories will still be there.
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"YOU ARE CORRECT BRO"!

I would say I'm blinded with love before but now is too late to turn back cos me and my gf had reached to a stage of settling down. But I would say it's all because of the child and I'm honest enough to admit that I had lost some of my feelings towards her due to her behaviour in certain issues but we are men and we have to be responsible of our actions and the consequences. So even the love is not the same as before, the show still needs to go on cos there's not point crying over spill milk and must try to make the best of it as it's me who chose this path and even it's wrong, I also "lan lan" and "gum wan". I believe there are a lot of bros out there who share the same situation as me, be it if it's thai,sg or viet cos there's always a saying " Ren Zai Jiang Huo Shen Bu You ji"..............
Bro, no one is perfect, and I'm talking about thai girls. How the situation ended up like that (in your case) is because you let it. All is not lost though. It's up to you to stand up and like you say, being a man, decide on what actions to take to make things better. Admittedly, some actions you take may have to be drastic, but it's all always for the better.

Let me give you an example which I used something that I learn from my friend. My wife with my son once stayed with me in BKK for a couple of months. As my son was very young, there were several times that my wife called me during my work to ask me what to do as my son was crying or whatever. It becomes too often and was disrupting my work. So one day, I just talk to my wife to explain that I had to work and of course she has her reasons, excuses or whatever so I just say "if you do not know how to look after my son, I'll find him another mother who knows how" and immediately the disturbances stop unless really urgent cases lah.

I have made it very clear to my wife, in-laws, etc that I can forgo anyone (not that I intend to lah) except my son and nobody can stop me from taking him if such a situation ever exist. luckily it doesn't lah.

What I'm trying to say is that you got to be firm, tell her her atittude is not making things better, and in the long run, may cause you to take alternate actions which you don't want to.

My 2 cents worth.
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I foreseen you are in for more shits and surprises ahead.
Thai lady doesn't get any much better after marriage; they get worse in most cases.
Don't expect her to change, she will change you instead.
Be mentally prepare for it.
The only way to handle them is through tight financial control and always acts no money.
By then , if she has any ill intention towards marriage, her 'lucifer horns' will appear.

It always works for me.

Btw, i'm married and stayed in thailand for the last 11yrs.My thai PR is on the way.

When they(thai) speak, i already know what they are up to liao.
That's why ,my mother- in-law and wife's side relatives all dare not approach me for money matters Cuz i'm always poor.
Not necessary so bro... everyone is a different person. There are many cases of Thai women who gets better too. I've seen many of them as many of my friends are also married to Thais.

I do not give my wife any monthly allowance now. Instead I just give her an ATM card and she draws whatever she needs or want to buy. My wife has NEVER overspend or whatever. Anything that she wants to buy which may cost a little bit more, she always ask me. All my assets in Thailand is exclusively under her name and I have not even a little bit of fear at all.

Like I said, it's how you communicate with your wife.
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Hi bro.

We never met up after that for not long after coming back to Singapore, I received a page which I returned the call, only to realise it was her sister calling me to tell me that my tirak had died in a motor accident when her car ploughed into the back of a truck...

Well, so that's my first tirak. Even today, I still wonder if not for that fateful night, whether we would be happily married... My parents were cool with it, but being in the 80s then, everybody else thought I was going out with a WL...

BTW, her name is Ketai (rabbit)...
Bro, my deepest sympathies.
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We never met up after that for not long after coming back to Singapore, I received a page which I returned the call, only to realise it was her sister calling me to tell me that my tirak had died in a motor accident when her car ploughed into the back of a truck...

Well, so that's my first tirak. Even today, I still wonder if not for that fateful night, whether we would be happily married... My parents were cool with it, but being in the 80s then, everybody else thought I was going out with a WL...

BTW, her name is Ketai (rabbit)...
farark, certainly a touching love story between your tirak, Ketai and you.

Sorry about her untimely accidental demise. Just be thankful for the wonderful memories of the precious time spent together... guess it just wasn't meant to be.
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