In Love with a Chinese CAT150 Girl. Is it Possible to bring her to Singapore & Marry?

[sun814]

Originally Posted by Schenker

I always address this vital issue, minus the advice of relationship blah blah.

But the person involved could be not in his right mind, or that his thoughts are being heavily clouded. He would be probably laying his last bargaining chip, if any, to cross the first hurdle, not knowing there are many hurdles in front of him.

Btw sun814, how's yr marriage life huh?

haha, there are ups and downs with my marriage life, but overall everything is going on fine. she is the average housewife that you can find in any neighbourhood, except for the occasional lustful stares from men (as she keeps her figure and shape well). she is very spend-thrift and really puts the family's interest in the first place at all times. i believe i am really fortunate to have marry her.

[Istrike4D]

Originally Posted by sammyboyfor

You want to marry a WHORE???? Are you nuts?

Your children will curse you forever!

Originally Posted by sammyboyfor

Once a whore, always a whore. All she's doing is changing the contract from an hourly rental agreement to a long term lease.

During the period of the lease, if she decides she's not getting a sufficient return on investment, she'll start doing hourly rentals on the quiet to supplement her income.

Once a female has sold her cunt once, she'll have no qualms about doing again and again as long as there's still a demand. To them, it's nothing more than a business transaction... a means of paying for that new LV bag or Cartier watch. A marriage certificate doesn't change a thing.

Originally Posted by sammyboyfor

Take my very sound advice... leave her BEFORE SHE LEAVES YOU!

No whore is going to hang around with you forever. They're always eyeing a bigger catch.

Originally Posted by sammyboyfor

Here's another sucker. The mainstream press is finally playing its part in exposing these bitches for what they are. I no longer have to fight the battle alone

Sammyboy (I don't understand why some people must be so unnecessarily subservient as to call you boss here)

You are very opinionated against prostitutes. Are you the son of one or you married one and got played out? Please man, give people a chance to survive lah!

[sammyboyfor]

Originally Posted by Istrike4D

You are very opinionated against prostitutes. Are you the son of one or you married one and got played out? Please man, give people a chance to survive lah!

I'll answer this question with a question....why are you offended by my views regarding whores? Have I touched a nerve somewhere?

I'm far more concerned about the survival of my fellow Singaporeans than I am about the welfare of some foreign trash whores. I have no wish to see my countrymen being swindled and emotionally devastated by these filthy, selfish low life who have no morals, no self respect and absolutely no consideration for those whose lives they destroy in their pursuit of $$$$.

[sun814]

Originally Posted by sammyboyfor

I'll answer this question with a question....why are you offended by my views regarding whores? Have I touched a nerve somewhere?

I'm far more concerned about the survival of my fellow Singaporeans than I am about the welfare of some foreign trash whores. I have no wish to see my countrymen being swindled and emotionally devastated by these filthy, selfish low life who have no morals, no self respect and absolutely no consideration for those whose lives they destroy in their pursuit of $$$$.

haha, even though i marry one ex-fl, i am not really affected or offended by your opinion though, as believe i have married the 0.01% who is not out to swindle my $$$ or have no qualms about sleeping with another men. so

[joker88]

Originally Posted by kurenaine

Just a little background. She has previously worked in Geylang .......................... We really want to get married and have kids.

Now that I have to return to Singapore, is there any way that she is able to come back to Singapore with me? Do any brothers have known any circumstances under which a ex-WL is able to come back to Singapore despite have worked in Geylang. Or are they banned from Singapore forever. Hope any kind samsters will be able to advise.

Heartfelt thanks in advance.

Bro kurenaine or meteora, the answer you want is in my previous post below.
My advice is: Think carefully about the consequences.

If a PRC WL come to singapore as a yellow card worker, her contract is for two years.

She cannot marry any Singaporean for the rest of her life. No exceptions will be made by the Singapore courts.
If she leaves Singapore before the two years is up, she cannot come to Singapore again during this two years' period, not even as tourist.

This is the condition that she accepted when she apply to come here.

The reason for this rule is quite obvious.
The Singapore authorities do no want Singaporean men to marry them without thinking seriously and then regret later.
This will cause alot of social problems for the Singapore govt.
Govt also do not want Singaporean men to be conned by these WLs.

You can try to marry her outside Singapore but your marriage will not be recognised by the S'pore courts.

Cheers and go luck!

Originally Posted by joker88

Bro, you are right. If sinkie men can bao WL in Singapore, then AWARE will pressure the govt to stop all these PRC WLs from coming here liao.

No customer is allowed to have special arrangement with the OKT to keep the WL for his own private use.
Any such agreement with the OKT is illegal and the OKT is in breach of contract in his licence agreement with AV.
The OKT is to ensure that all his WLs do not go out with customers, do not go to hotels, motels or any other public accomodations, do not solicit for biz near or inside places of entertainment, eg. KTV, pubs, bars, casinos, etc.

When a WL cancel her yellow card (only on Wed) she has to leave Singapore within 3 days, ie. by Sat in the same week.

That is why no customer is able to ask the WL to leave her OKT and stay in Singapore as his mistress no matter how rich and famous he is.

The onus is on the OKT to inform AV if such things occur failing which the OKT will be in breach of contract and be prepared for punitive action against him.

The only way is to give her money to return to China and be your mistress.
Keeping her in the house as a WL but not serving customers is illegal and the OKT will get his lic suspended for first offender and repeated offender will get his lic cancelled.

BTW, if a PRC WL come to singapore as a yellow card worker, her contract is for two years.

She cannot marry any Singaporean for the rest of her life. No exceptions will be made by the Singapore courts.
If she leaves Singapore before the two years is up, she cannot come to Singapore again during this two years' period, not even as tourist.
After the two years, she has to apply to come to Singapore and this is subjected to approval by the Singapore courts.
Usually not approved except for very special case, quite obvious lah.

Their fingerprints were recorded by immigration when they come and they cannot come back again using fake passports.

So the verdict is: No PRC WL as wife or mistress here. Only in China.

[goodpartner]

Originally Posted by joker88

'If a PRC WL come to singapore as a yellow card worker, her contract is for two years.

She cannot marry any Singaporean for the rest of her life. No exceptions will be made by the Singapore courts.
If she leaves Singapore before the two years is up, she cannot come to Singapore again during this two years' period, not even as tourist.

This is the condition that she accepted when she apply to come here.
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You can try to marry her outside Singapore but your marriage will not be recognised by the S'pore courts.

Now, if this is true, I guess this rule applies to all those CATXX WL as well.

If this is a FACT for working as a "Legal" WL in Sg, then this information should be part of the sticky thread or under Sammyboyfor's siggy too. Personally, I think it's a big deterrent factor to any bro thinking they can overcome the oughts to marry an ex-WL and have long-term plans despite the naysayings on other areas.

Also, if this is true, I presume that those "success stories" of bros who married an ex-WL did so with one that's NOT from the "legal house" right? Those who work here illegally were not subjected to this terms & condition like them

Furthermore, those bros who had divorced one (who was a "legal" ex-WL) should not be subjected to the Sg Women Charter, since the marriage is not recognized in Sg court.

Bro Joker88, how certain are you with your "facts"?

[joker88]

Originally Posted by goodpartner

Now, if this is true, I guess this rule applies to all those CATXX WL as well.

If this is a FACT for working as a "Legal" WL in Sg, then ..............

Also, if this is true, I presume that those "success stories" of bros who married an ex-WL did so with one that's NOT from the "legal house" right? Those who work here illegally were not subjected to this terms & condition like them

Furthermore, those bros who had divorced one (who was a "legal" ex-WL) should not be subjected to the Sg Women Charter, since the marriage is not recognized in Sg court.

Bro Joker88, how certain are you with your "facts"?

This applies to all yellow-card workers in SIN not only in GL.
Recently one ex-GL WL working at Petain Rd was caught with a cust during a hotel raid and she was deported immediately.

Please be mindful that we are toking abt SIN citizens only. You can marry them if you are a PR and not a SIN citizen.

Actually this info is widely known to all the WLs and OKTs in GL.
They have to sign undertaking papers at AV and ICA before they start.
The stamp in the WL's passport will hinder her future VISA application to come here.

You can ask any WL or OKT and they can tell you.
Of course, sometimes they may not want to tell you everything or even mislead you becos they dun know who you are.

By the way, when ppl tell you "married" or "divorced" an ex-WL, there are many doubts.
They maybe staying together but not legally married as in having a legal married cert endorsed by ROM.
As such, if they are not legally married, then they cannot be legally divorced also.
Also, the men involved in these cases may be PR and not SIN citizens.

By the way, if an ex-WL applies to marry a SIN citizen in China, the Chinese authorities will check with the SIN embassy if this guy is married in SIN to prevent bigamy.
In the process, the SIN embassy will notify them that the SIN govt will not recognised this marriage.
It is then up to the Chinses authorities whether they will approve this application of the union of two lovebirds.

Cheers and happy bonking!

[goodpartner]

Originally Posted by joker88

This applies to all yellow-card workers in SIN not only in GL.

Please be mindful that we are toking abt SIN citizens only. You can marry them if you are a PR and not a SIN citizen.

Actually this info is widely known to all the WLs and OKTs in GL.
They have to sign undertaking papers at AV and ICA before they start.
The stamp in the WL's passport will hinder her future VISA application to come here.

You can ask any WL or OKT and they can tell you.

Ok then, this should be the final answer to TS's question : "In Love with a Chinese CAT150 Girl. Is it Possible to bring her to Singapore & Marry?"

If TS is a SG Society Citizen, then CANNOT marry her.

[joew2005]

God help those that help themselve ...
if 1 doesn't even 1 2 help himself, then no 1(including god) can help him.

[joker88]

Originally Posted by V|ernar

If given another chance , I will never marry a prc WL . First five years is ok , great sex , great cooking , great wife . The citizenship in hand , everything change , go think about it . It not worth the risk and splitting half of your wealth to her . Your doubt will rise when she happen to be busy to pick up the phone , what will you think ?

It take years to know a person , how well you know her ?

Who you want to marry , the govt can't stop you , it your choice who you want to marry. There are mean and way to bring her back to our land.

I suggest if you really want to marry her , get married in china and born a few kids then bring her back with the kids . Can't enter our soil ? You do biz , don't need I teach you ba ? There is a loophole and apply visa in china is much easy then in Singapore .

Bro, I agree with you abt splitting your assets with her. It is not worth taking the risk. It take yrs to know each other.

You say means and ways to bring her back. I presume you are referring to non-legal ways.
Unless you smuggled her as illegal immigrant, her fingerprints were recorded by ICA and there is no way she can get thru immigration even with fake passport.
Without proper identity card, are you sure you want your lover to live in fear everyday?

When a PRC apply VISA in China to enter SIN, the VISA is approved by the SIN embassy in China and it is not approved by the Chinese authorities.
The Chinese authorities has no say as to who is allowed to enter SIN.
That is why SIN govt wants all PRC to apply for VISA from ICA becos our govt wants to control who can come and who cannot come becos China is so............. big.
All PRCs also have to apply for VISA from Malaysian embassy in China if they want to go to Malaysia even as tourists.

If you fake the VISA, ICA will deport you when you try to enter SIN.
It does not matter which country this PRC apply his or her VISA to enter SIN.
The VISA application will only be approved by the SIN embassy there.

Her VISA application will be rejected if she was an ex-WL in SIN unless you have very very good reasons.
Coming here as student, or worker, or leisure, etc are not valid reasons for her anymore.

Singaporeans can enter and stay in China without VISA only for not more than 14 days.
However, you need to apply VISA to enter China if you want to stay for more than 14 days.
Your VISA will be processed and approved by the Chinese embassy here and not by ICA.
VISA applications are approved by the destination country and not by the country that you are residing.

[joker88]

Originally Posted by sun814

all bros here talk about the negative aspects, which i would agree to a certain extent (i am marry with an [B]ex-FL /B] for 2.5 years now after knowing her for 3 years), but no one seems to address his question of whether is it possible to bring her back to singapore, which i think is a "NO, NO", right?

Bro, I am curious? Are you a Singaporean?

Is your "wife" an ex-FL or ex-WL? Ex-WL I mean yellow-card workers.
There is no ICA records for ex-FL.

I guess both of you are in China now, right?
Actually for ex-WL, they will have to explain to their PRC husbands next time why their VISA to enter SIN is rejected.

Cheers!

[Schenker]

Originally Posted by joker88

Singaporeans can enter and stay in China without VISA only for not more than 14 days.
However, you need to apply VISA to enter China if you want to stay for more than 14 days.
Your VISA will be processed and approved by the Chinese embassy here and not by ICA.
VISA applications are approved by the destination country and not by the country that you are residing.

Abit of correction, bro.

Citizens of Singapore may enter China without a visa for no more than 15 days.

I have stayed exactly 15 days in china w/o applying a visa.

[joker88]

Originally Posted by Schenker

Abit of correction, bro.

Citizens of Singapore may enter China without a visa for no more than 15 days.

I have stayed exactly 15 days in china w/o applying a visa.

Thanks for the correction. Type too fast.

Cheers!

[kurenaine]

Originally Posted by joker88

Bro kurenaine or meteora, the answer you want is in my previous post below.
My advice is: Think carefully about the consequences.

If a PRC WL come to singapore as a yellow card worker, her contract is for two years.

She cannot marry any Singaporean for the rest of her life. No exceptions will be made by the Singapore courts.
If she leaves Singapore before the two years is up, she cannot come to Singapore again during this two years' period, not even as tourist.

This is the condition that she accepted when she apply to come here.

The reason for this rule is quite obvious.
The Singapore authorities do no want Singaporean men to marry them without thinking seriously and then regret later.
This will cause alot of social problems for the Singapore govt.
Govt also do not want Singaporean men to be conned by these WLs.

You can try to marry her outside Singapore but your marriage will not be recognised by the S'pore courts.

Cheers and go luck!

Hi bro

Thank you so much for taking the time to reply the email. Let's say if we do not get married, can she then come to Singapore after 2 year period is up?

[sun814]

Originally Posted by joker88

Bro, I am curious? Are you a Singaporean?

Is your "wife" an ex-FL or ex-WL? Ex-WL I mean yellow-card workers.
There is no ICA records for ex-FL.

I guess both of you are in China now, right?
Actually for ex-WL, they will have to explain to their PRC husbands next time why their VISA to enter SIN is rejected.

Cheers!

i am 100% singaporean, my wife without "" is an ex-fl, so ICA has no records of her, so we are staying happily in singapore now, and she's got her PR status.