A truly useful thread not only must stand the test of time. But that the original TS himself must demonstrate commitment to the subject matter.
Agree.
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Now that I have recovered somewhat financially, I can afford to dabble and indulge in this little recreational pursuit.......
I do know and remember the steps to land a BY (only this time, I have to go "budget") .... but what I don't have is "recency" and current knowledge! It would be indeed fun to see if the elapsing of eight years have diminished my "skill" or the world of BY now has "evolved" (or devolved) and operate on a different paradigm altogether .... cheers!!
IMO, it is an imbalanced market. You with the "budget" can still land something, anything, with time and effort. She, the prey, although is able to guess or gauge her own value, you can counter her perception of her value by walking away and giving her the dissatisfaction and the impression in her mind whether she let a good-enough fish (in fact you the hunter) walk away unless there is competitor.
Without paying over your budget, you need patience and effort, and also widen your target list. If you are bidding for the top three gals that are courted by multiple towkays, then you are joining a bidding war which is not to your advantage.
If you corner a good enough girl that will be yours most of the time (or all, it depends whether you've the energy and means to check on her) and she is not courted, then you have the time to manage her expectation of her own value since there is no bidding war going for her. If she is a proud one, move on. There are plenty of targets.
I feel that this game is a game of needs versus wants balanced by means. If you need the girl fast, then you better have the means to over come obstacles fast. If you are limited in your means, then deploy what you have and shoot for those that are not in a strong position or she needs what you have.
It should not be a perfect market, not even close. So deploy all your weapons, sweet talk, confidence, a way to stand out be it being indifferent or switch mode to attentive (just not too much as they dislike pushovers), and aim at multiple targets (probably not in the same room though), you may hit success, if not then move on to the next group of possibilities.
My apologies, I am disorganized and messy in here.
Thank you. I am just wondering what will happen if one day the sugar daddy received warning from someone about the girl they BY having bf? Believe or don't believe? Break up or continue? Thank you.
Bro bonkpedia,
Every case is different. He needs to find out if it's true. Just like if his wife is having a BF. Walk away if it's true.
Cheers!
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Originally Posted by justime
This is indeed a Golden Thread ("Sticky"-worthy).
A truly useful thread not only must stand the test of time. But that the original TS himself must demonstrate commitment to the subject matter.
I am very impressed by the updates, chronicles, lessons imbibed (and discarded) and the quality of sharing over time. It shows up very evidently that BY is not some mythical amorphous thing, but rather a "true to life" activity in the world of cheonging.
I have met Bro Warbird (several years ago) and indeed was quite an active participant in the world of BY. I am not active anymore as I was facing some financial challenges!
Yes! stark reality .. there IS money involved to sustain a BY relationship. Like it or not, force of personality, charisma etc only goes so far.
(btw, it's not engaging in BY activities that bankrupted me, but rather being caught out during the Great Financial Crisis of 2008 on the wrong side of the financial investment equation)
Now that I have recovered somewhat financially, I can afford to dabble and indulge in this little recreational pursuit. To this end, I look forward to join Bro Warbird and gang in some BY outings and scoutings (if they would accept my company of course - cannot be presumptuous!).
I do know and remember the steps to land a BY (only this time, I have to go "budget") .... but what I don't have is "recency" and current knowledge! It would be indeed fun to see if the elapsing of eight years have diminished my "skill" or the world of BY now has "evolved" (or devolved) and operate on a different paradigm altogether .... cheers!!
Bro Justime,
It's good to hear from u after such a long time. It would be my pleasure if u could join my outings. I'm overseas now n will return in about 3 weeks.
I last met u at LV in early 2012. I had a tall Fujian gal w/ me. In the lift, you described her as having "ample breasts" haha. She is now a model in Xiamen. I now hv a 19 yo kawaii lao po w/ small breasts. She has just returned to China because of urgent family problems.
BY has not changed much in the last 5-6 years. But 90% of gals working in high end KTVs now hv had plastic surgery. It's a big turnoff for me. And few pretty gals are coming to SG.
Cheers!
Bro WB
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Originally Posted by NotMyRealName
Agree.
IMO, it is an imbalanced market. You with the "budget" can still land something, anything, with time and effort. She, the prey, although is able to guess or gauge her own value, you can counter her perception of her value by walking away and giving her the dissatisfaction and the impression in her mind whether she let a good-enough fish (in fact you the hunter) walk away unless there is competitor.
Without paying over your budget, you need patience and effort, and also widen your target list. If you are bidding for the top three gals that are courted by multiple towkays, then you are joining a bidding war which is not to your advantage.
If you corner a good enough girl that will be yours most of the time (or all, it depends whether you've the energy and means to check on her) and she is not courted, then you have the time to manage her expectation of her own value since there is no bidding war going for her. If she is a proud one, move on. There are plenty of targets.
I feel that this game is a game of needs versus wants balanced by means. If you need the girl fast, then you better have the means to over come obstacles fast. If you are limited in your means, then deploy what you have and shoot for those that are not in a strong position or she needs what you have.
It should not be a perfect market, not even close. So deploy all your weapons, sweet talk, confidence, a way to stand out be it being indifferent or switch mode to attentive (just not too much as they dislike pushovers), and aim at multiple targets (probably not in the same room though), you may hit success, if not then move on to the next group of possibilities.
My apologies, I am disorganized and messy in here.
Bro NotMyRealName,
Thanks for ur post. I couldn't agree w/ u more.
The pussy n BY market is very inefficient. A patient n confident man who understands female psychology can often "punch above his weight" haha.
It's like a marriage w/o the financial consequences. Unfortunately, there may be emotional consequences. Just my 2 cents.
There always will be emotional consequences in this time of arrangement. And I really like the way you put it. It is like marriage but without the financial consequences after you part ways.
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IMO, it is an imbalanced market. You with the "budget" can still land something, anything, with time and effort. She, the prey, although is able to guess or gauge her own value, you can counter her perception of her value by walking away and giving her the dissatisfaction and the impression in her mind whether she let a good-enough fish (in fact you the hunter) walk away unless there is competitor.
Without paying over your budget, you need patience and effort, and also widen your target list. If you are bidding for the top three gals that are courted by multiple towkays, then you are joining a bidding war which is not to your advantage.
If you corner a good enough girl that will be yours most of the time (or all, it depends whether you've the energy and means to check on her) and she is not courted, then you have the time to manage her expectation of her own value since there is no bidding war going for her. If she is a proud one, move on. There are plenty of targets.
I feel that this game is a game of needs versus wants balanced by means. If you need the girl fast, then you better have the means to over come obstacles fast. If you are limited in your means, then deploy what you have and shoot for those that are not in a strong position or she needs what you have.
It should not be a perfect market, not even close. So deploy all your weapons, sweet talk, confidence, a way to stand out be it being indifferent or switch mode to attentive (just not too much as they dislike pushovers), and aim at multiple targets (probably not in the same room though), you may hit success, if not then move on to the next group of possibilities.
My apologies, I am disorganized and messy in here.
Very, very well written! You have clearly analyzed the game very well and I really must offer you my kudos. I think I myself can learn a lot from your attitude and also insights. Kudos bro.
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This is the most outrageous and arrogant comment that I ever come across. Why and how on earth will a self confident, financially independent and secure woman fall for such behavior? You seriously think that you are GOD"a gift to ladies??
Or maybe your target market are those KTV ladies whose main objective is to love your money. They won't bother how you behave as long as you show them the money. They can and will call you their Prince Charming even though one might look like a ugly toad.
Hope that you are not inculcating such thoughts into your son ya. I mean no harm and no offence taken.
I think you are missing the point. I would say in Singapore, a lot of guys are totally clueless with regards to the opposite sex. How many guys just wish they had the guts to walk up to a woman and say hi, can I have your number?
Don't say that women aren't drawn to people who are confident people?
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I think you are missing the point. I would say in Singapore, a lot of guys are totally clueless with regards to the opposite sex. How many guys just wish they had the guts to walk up to a woman and say hi, can I have your number?
Don't say that women aren't drawn to people who are confident people?
What are the critical substantial element that makes a guy gutsy and self confident???
Tried to bring the Shanghainese student to another KTV last nite, but she wouldn't go as she only wanted to work at DC. I was hoping to put her in the same room w/ a new Fujian student whom I like a lot. Nothing better than a face-to-face comparison, hahaha. They both share an asset which I covet n which is sadly lacking in many PRC MMs: An ample, perky n shapely yet very proportionate ass.
Although I met this Fujian gal inside a KTV, not outside, I'm sharing a little details on her bcos I would like to discuss what to do AFTER we get ctc from the gals, whether inside or outside KTVs.
I hv greatly benefited from the strategies, counseling n wisdom of both Bros justime n DYBJ in the science of BY, but I feel that I can't adopt whole hog their methods w/o modifications. Bro justime's approach is more towards budget type n bro DYBJ's is super deluxe! I'm most comfortable w/ a moderately priced approach.
I first met this Fujian gal, let's called her KK, in a KTV 15 days ago n we met again last nite. But in between these meetings, I had called her many times n exchanged numerous SMSes w/ her. I had also invited her to Mirage, Armani n other joints but she didn't want to come. I always listen very carefully to what she says...n we hv had excellent n deepening rapport.
I hv prepared a "dossier" on her, in my mind's eye, haha. BTW, she is Ang Pai at a high-end KTV.
She is 25 (yeah, much older than my usual type), from 福建宁德，has been here 4 months. She attends a school from 9am till 230pm 5 days a week. To me, she is vey chio, classy n elegant, poised n quite aloof despite her humble family background. Ht 168 w/o shoes, abt 52-53 kg, small to medium bony frame, relatively fair n smooth skin for a Fujian gal. Boobs B plus (natural?) w/ very proportionate figure, long straight legs n beautiful ass. I'm yet to ask if she has had prior childbirth or major surgeries, etc.
She is currently reading a book on tomb raiders in China n her all-time favourite book is 铁窗，a novel abt a heroine who was wrongly imprisoned. She loves to keep talking abt these tales...also tells me her childhood, family life, what has happened to her in SGP, her goals, aspirations, worries. needs, etc. Her biggest worry is money (what else is new?) n she is tired of working at KTVs: lots of stress n alcohol, lack of sleep, 2nd hand smoke, unhealthy lifestyle, etc. The need to cope w/ many different, sometimes difficult, customers is fraying her nerves...
She is willing to endure the hardship for 2-3 yrs or whatever, until she has SGD 200K. I told her I could get a fren to take care of her n asked for her requirements. She replied that she would quit working completely if she could get 10K plus a month but she must meet my fren first before deciding. Is 12K enough? OK, she said. I then told her if my fren wouldn't take care of her, I would be happy to be her man. She moved very close to me n cooed in my ear, YES...BTW, she is willing to hv a complete exam n blood tests She emphasies that she has not had sex w/ any man in SGP (???). I'll tell her that I need to hv a ''test drive" to find out if we r compatible before BY, hahaha.
Thx for reading n hv a great day!!
The rates are now super strange. The last girl quoted me $20k, but she slashed. I think I need to do go MIA for a while....lol.
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What are the critical substantial element that makes a guy gutsy and self confident???
A lot of factors will boost one's self-confidence. EG, good looking. Youth. Wealth. And even education. However, how you use that to your advantage only you wield that power. No one can do it for you.
Self-confidence places a part even in the workplace. You don't get promoted because of your technical skills. You get promoted because you may be able to project a good image that you will be able to perform a job. This is certainly true at board levels. If you are talking about managerial levels, yes you are using your technical expertise but further up the ladder, your social skills plays a huge part. And a good part is self-confidence.
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I have been a silent reader of your thread. By being able to bao KTV girls of your whim and fancy, you are obviously wealthy to say the least. But with all due respect, it is still the fact that it is your financial ability to bao that gives you the unfair advantage and leverage to play this "badass gentleman" game according to your own rules.
In other words, if a man is really self-assured and dominant, why would he need to enter into a commercial transaction to own the doll's pussy, heart, mind and soul? I see it more of an egoistic pursuit behind the veil of emotional insecurity... for surely only the man knows if he can still succeed if he doesn't have the wealth to start with in the first place.
Just my 2 cents' worth.
Huat Ahh!
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Originally Posted by workpermit
Brag until so much still have to use money to pay for meat. Until the day you are successful in SCORING without the "LEASING MEAT" factor, I don't see any wisdom or "MAN"lyhood. I only see someone trying hard to show off that's all. Last post here. Enjoy your endless self fulfilling hollow brags haha.
HUAT AH!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by warbird
BTW, I wrote the following myself:
"I use the term "badass gentleman" to describe a man who has all the attractive masculine traits of a badass w/o his obnoxious character defects PLUS all the attractive traits of a "gentleman" w/o his repulsive "nice guy" behaviour.
Why would bro Don Juan call a badass gentleman unnatural?
I just received the following email from a well known guru in which he touched on the subject."
Calling him a well known guru is not showing respect? AND I didn't copy from his website, as alleged by bro workpermit, the guru sent it to me yesterday. I do expect bro workpermit's clarification n apology.
Hahaha.
Good night!
Bro WB
Bro wb strategy is very different frm mine. He purely use money to buy a relationship to bao a girl. But his method attract all kind of wrong girls.
I recently meet up one of my fans，slowly into another gf. i focus on personal grooming，self image and the dark traits of a badboy without any sign of money involved. We had a great time together over at gz. Expenses on mine，but i dont bao her. we have a normal relationship like normal couples do. That i score better than your badass gentleman theory.
If you insist on buying on a relationship，that not my style. You can beat me slightly more in pussies with instant cash but you cant beat me in owning women hearts once rs start to develop gradually. Sparks start to shine and fly over money.
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青外青山，楼外有楼，一山更比一山高
Talk cock and fart all come through the same breath. TCSS and be Happy!
说话和放屁都是一样的，一口气而以，开心就好！
Don't talk to me abt love, dreams, i don't need these in my life
别跟我谈理想，戒了，本少爷DJ想干嘛就干嘛去。。
Bro wb strategy is very different frm mine. He purely use money to buy a relationship to bao a girl. But his method attract all kind of wrong girls.
I recently meet up one of my fans，slowly into another gf. i focus on personal grooming，self image and the dark traits of a badboy without any sign of money involved. We had a great time together over at gz. Expenses on mine，but i dont bao her. we have a normal relationship like normal couples do. That i score better than your badass gentleman theory.
If you insist on buying on a relationship，that not my style. You can beat me slightly more in pussies with instant cash but you cant beat me in owning women hearts once rs start to develop gradually. Sparks start to shine and fly over money.
I don't think there is anything wrong with using money to buy a relationship. It is just like us guys going to GL and paying for sex.
Having mojo and using it to one's advantage is not a crime. Business use their financial might to gain the unfair advantage. Just because you may have a lack of it doesn't mean that someone using it to their advantage should play by the same rules as you. To me, at least, you seem to be sour grapes.
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I don't think there is anything wrong with using money to buy a relationship. It is just like us guys going to GL and paying for sex.
Having mojo and using it to one's advantage is not a crime. Business use their financial might to gain the unfair advantage. Just because you may have a lack of it doesn't mean that someone using it to their advantage should play by the same rules as you. To me, at least, you seem to be sour grapes.
Why will i be sour grape when my girl tells me she loves me for who i am and not because of my money？
The true grandmasters have always practise the art of kc without any money involved.
__________________ One mountain always higher than another
青外青山，楼外有楼，一山更比一山高
Talk cock and fart all come through the same breath. TCSS and be Happy!
说话和放屁都是一样的，一口气而以，开心就好！
Don't talk to me abt love, dreams, i don't need these in my life
别跟我谈理想，戒了，本少爷DJ想干嘛就干嘛去。。
That why the badass gentlemen fails to kc the ktv girls always kenna bully by the girls for money. Buy gifts like atm machine，somemore have pay for sex. Use money to buy relationship. Isnt it a beta male mentality and theory？
__________________ One mountain always higher than another
青外青山，楼外有楼，一山更比一山高
Talk cock and fart all come through the same breath. TCSS and be Happy!
说话和放屁都是一样的，一口气而以，开心就好！
Don't talk to me abt love, dreams, i don't need these in my life
别跟我谈理想，戒了，本少爷DJ想干嘛就干嘛去。。
02-04-2016, 01:36 AM
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