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Old 14-04-2015, 09:38 PM
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Re: Picking up KTV gals ouside KTVs

Alas of course, many of us bros here cannot reach the stage of fucking a woman, let alone giving PVOs.

You must be quite rich to BY so many women. Perhaps one day if I were to reach your financial status, I can straight away offer to BY / ST a harem of women and give PVOs to them

Otherwise, me currently a poor young man - my salary is perhaps even lower than your BY rate, and not good at chatting up a woman also
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Old 15-04-2015, 12:59 AM
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One of your great, informative long posts, WB!

My problem is the other way round - the consequences of having a needy, clingy and suicidal woman when the breakup inevitably occurs. And this even after plenty of warnings in advance that our relationship is not meant to last, I have a family, etc, etc.

Plenty of unnecessary drama that I would prefer not to have to deal with.
Suicidal women there is one carnal rule, BREAK OFF ASAP and then put her on suicide watch informing external agencies.

At the same time all forms of contact with her is removed or discontinued. Mobile, email , chat ID etc etc.

It is not worth the emotional drain, even if the sex is incredible (usually is with the craziest ones). Start looking for another piece of ass with your buddy.
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Old 15-04-2015, 02:07 AM
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Re: Picking up KTV gals ouside KTVs

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Good morning!

There is a fascinating topic: KC or infatuation or falling in love w/ a girl, especially a WL. And the consequences of break up of that "love" RS.
Nice piece WB bro, its very informative.

Many bros had our fair share of that gal who got under our skin. Could not stop thinking of her, cannot work, cannot think, man possessed, lost etc etc. Its always something small that gets you, like the way she moans or the expression she gives when doing it and unknowingly she got under your skin and BANG your hooked.

To get out of her, the most efficient method is to find a bro or a group of bros and go cheong together frequently and explore new hunting grounds. Just keep meeting new gals and very soon its over. Not easy initially but the bro company helps a lot.

I am more concerned with Bros who are so in love with the gal and is willing to financially stress or worst ruin himself just to keep her smiling. Always remember this carnal rule ... "if she truly loves you, she will not waste your money" The key word being waste.

So the key is getting a girl to love you, and BRO WB got it spot on. Make her cum so hard so much so often she will beg for you to stop with the sweetest most blissful smile. Orgasms = Feeling of Love (I find most Asian women are wired this way). The more a girl gets mind blowing orgasms via penetration, clit or g-spot stimulations (they are all different so its YOUR job to find out which one or which combination works) they more love they will feel towards you. There are additional instant benefits to being a generous giver / lover, they will always want to have sex with you so you never have to plea for it and when they see you, they are already moist. EPIC WIN.

Unfortunately many drop the ball on this. Either too bloody lazy or fussy to go down or be on top or use tongue or use hands to make them happy which takes some time for gals for the initial cum. Most guys always want to jizz quickly because of this massive internal urgent feeling of needing release and then almost instantly after released, feels super shag and fall sleep.

Lets pause for one moment and imagine us guys in the equivalent situation, we penetrate a girl and she cums real fast (3 strokes) and then her virgina becomes dry instantly where u cannot penetrate further and she falls off asleep so no BJ, you are left with a raging hardon and cannot jerk off (no release in other words), HOW DOES IT FEEL? Sex becomes a torture for the unsatisfied partner. Will love ever prevail or even exist anymore? Does money and expensive gifts compensate enough for that torturous feeling?

For those bro who release too quickly, never penetrate right away, use your 'other sex organs' (hands and tongue) to make sure she gets plenty of satisfaction and after she begs you to stop, as its too exhausting, then say its your turn, and penetrate. By then even if you shoot real quick its fine because she has had her fill and she will be wonderfully happy it is reciprocated quickly !

Cheers
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Old 15-04-2015, 03:02 AM
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Re: Picking up KTV gals ouside KTVs

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Hi Bro WarBird,

it has been awhile since I have posted anything although I have been an ardent reader of your posts.
It is unfortunate however it seems that no other bros in this forum could contribute text book cases for us to discuss and analyse, perhaps even learn more from.
I would like to ask, if you have read any of Ayn Rand's works, it seems to me that there is a huge similarity in the main characters within Ayn Rand's literature to what is discussed here.
Dubbed the "randian hero", the Randian hero is the creative individualist........................
Generally a Randian hero is characterized by radical individualism, moral resolution, intelligence/aptitude, self-control, emotional discipline, and (frequently, but not always) attractive physical characteristics in the eyes of other Randian heroes. Rand's heroes are tall, strong and upright; the females share slender figures, defiant stances and the impression of internal calmness, while the males are physically hard and supple, often with gray eyes.

Interestingly, as you have pointed out, she has also insinuated that all relationships are based of an exchange of "virtue or value", in short, a business transaction sealed with an unknown currency to all except the parties involved.....................

Do watch her other interviews as well.........................But I believe this is very related to what you have discussed here, unfortunately the consensus of many men today do not even vaguely, grasp this concept.
I would like to hear your thoughts, and other readers do chime in as well.
Bro abugga,

Thanks for ur post! I hv heard of her, never read her books. IMHO, "the superior man" as defined by David Deida is more manly and enlightened compared to her so-called "ideal man."

"The most erotic moment for a woman is feeling that you are Shiva, the divine masculine: unperturbable, totally loving, fully present, and all-pervading. She cannot move you, because you already are what you are, with or without her. She cannot scare you away, because you already penetrate her in fearless love, pervading her heart and body. She cannot distract you, because your one-pointed commitment to truth will not bend to her wiles. Feeling this hugeness of love and freedom in you, she can trust you, utterly, and surrender her testing in celebration of love." --- David Deida

“You are only punishing yourself when you want to be in a relationship with a woman more than she wants to be a in a relationship with you.” --- David Deida

“If you are waiting for anything in order to live and love without holding back, then you suffer. Every moment is the most important moment of your life. No future time is better than now to let down your guard and love.” --- David Deida

http://www.deida.info/books/the-way-...man-get-easier

IMHO, ALL human RS are strictly business transactions, based on exchange of value or friendship or kindness or money or assets or ego or self esteem or beliefs or companionship or memories or good will or emotions or sex or pleasure or love or ideas or happiness or power or opportunities, etc., etc...or a combination of the above...it's a give and take, a trade, nothing more and nothing less. If one party perceives that the transaction is unequal n unfair, the RS will end eventually hahaha.

Cheers!

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Originally Posted by chenzong View Post
One of your great, informative long posts, WB!
My problem is the other way round - the consequences of having a needy, clingy and suicidal woman when the breakup inevitably occurs. And this even after plenty of warnings in advance that our relationship is not meant to last, I have a family, etc, etc.
............
Bro chenzong,

Thank u for ur post! I hv not mentioned break up withdrawal from the female point of view. They suffer just as much at least initially, but, in most cases, they are able to recover faster. One reason is that they get more support from their friends and family members. They also tend to exaggerate n dramatize their despair and sufferings. Most of their "suicide attempts" are meant to manipulate a man's emotions.


Relax bro, what is funny is that the outwardly suicidal women will attempt suicides but never, if ever, succeed. You must watch out for the silent type! They may hold back their tears in front of u, say nothing, but go home n cry n cry. Don't be surprised to read abt their obituary a few days or weeks later.


I told my young mistress TH in late 2013 that I was leaving her. Her reactions were quite strong. Crying, messaging me n calling me many times a day. She slept poorly n felt anxious, insecure, had pressure on her chest, etc. I dumped her because, in addition to my lao po WX, I thought I just found a prettier SYT. But this new gal suffered from depression! I took TH back after several months.


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Suicidal women there is one carnal rule, BREAK OFF ASAP and then put her on suicide watch informing external agencies.

At the same time all forms of contact with her is removed or discontinued. Mobile, email , chat ID etc etc.

It is not worth the emotional drain, even if the sex is incredible (usually is with the craziest ones). Start looking for another piece of ass with your buddy.

Bro instantlove,


Thanks for your advice.


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Nice piece WB bro, its very informative.

Many bros had our fair share of that gal who got under our skin. Could not stop thinking of her, cannot work, cannot think, man possessed, lost etc etc. Its always something small that gets you, like the way she moans or the expression she gives when doing it and unknowingly she got under your skin and BANG your hooked.

To get out of her, the most efficient method is to find a bro or a group of bros and go cheong together frequently and explore new hunting grounds. Just keep meeting new gals and very soon its over. Not easy initially but the bro company helps a lot.

I am more concerned with Bros who are so in love with the gal and is willing to financially stress or worst ruin himself just to keep her smiling. Always remember this carnal rule ... "if she truly loves you, she will not waste your money" The key word being waste.

So the key is getting a girl to love you, and BRO WB got it spot on. Make her cum so hard so much so often she will beg for you to stop with the sweetest most blissful smile. Orgasms = Feeling of Love (I find most Asian women are wired this way). The more a girl gets mind blowing orgasms via penetration, clit or g-spot stimulations (they are all different so its YOUR job to find out which one or which combination works) they more love they will feel towards you. There are additional instant benefits to being a generous giver / lover, they will always want to have sex with you so you never have to plea for it and when they see you, they are already moist. EPIC WIN.

Unfortunately many drop the ball on this. Either too bloody lazy or fussy to go down or be on top or use tongue or use hands to make them happy which takes some time for gals for the initial cum. Most guys always want to jizz quickly because of this massive internal urgent feeling of needing release and then almost instantly after released, feels super shag and fall sleep.

Lets pause for one moment and imagine us guys in the equivalent situation, we penetrate a girl and she cums real fast (3 strokes) and then her virgina becomes dry instantly where u cannot penetrate further and she falls off asleep so no BJ, you are left with a raging hardon and cannot jerk off (no release in other words), HOW DOES IT FEEL? Sex becomes a torture for the unsatisfied partner. Will love ever prevail or even exist anymore? Does money and expensive gifts compensate enough for that torturous feeling?

For those bro who release too quickly, never penetrate right away, use your 'other sex organs' (hands and tongue) to make sure she gets plenty of satisfaction and after she begs you to stop, as its too exhausting, then say its your turn, and penetrate. By then even if you shoot real quick its fine because she has had her fill and she will be wonderfully happy it is reciprocated quickly !

Cheers

Bro instantlove,


Thank you!! Very good post, very astute observations from decades of hand-on "battle field" experiences. You are like a veteran general, a military strategist n a natural!


Let me quote you: "if she truly loves you, she will not waste your money" The key word being waste.


I agree w/ bro instanlove 100%. In a long term man-woman RS, sexual satisfaction for both is crucial. I can't stress this point enough.


PVOs n more PVOs. It's do or die for a man. if a man has given a gal frequent PVOs, her attitude n actions towards him will change. If she hasn't changed, she is faking it. Lol.


To really satisfy a woman emotionally n sexually, a man's right mindset n sexual confidence is the key. Techniques, positions n stamina are of secondary importance.


If he doesn't hv a healthy dose of sexual confidence, nothing else is going to work...his girl will sense his lack of sexual confidence, insecurity, need for approval/validation 100 meters away. He has just become sexually repulsive(mostly subconsciously) to her regardless of his height, age, looks, wealth, status, fame, etc. She will try to leave him or cheat on him, even if he is a real-life handsome n young prince riding on a white horse. I would rather be a lao chee ko pek w/ MASSIVE sexual confidence n emotional mastery. To come to think of it, If I had such massive sexual confidence n emotional mastery, I won't need any one particular woman or anything else...and I certainly won't want to become any other MAN, not even an emperor of China.


Cheers!


Bro WB
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Old 16-04-2015, 06:05 AM
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Re: Picking up KTV gals ouside KTVs

Good morning,

I missed the following 2 posts.

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Hi Bro Warbird,

I would like you to analyse the psyche of such a man I have previously discussed. As follows:

Not particularly handsome by conventional standards, has body movements that require no effort with natural movements. Low hard throaty voice.

He has learned long ago, with his first consciousness, two things that dominate his attitude toward life: his own superiority and the utter worthlessness of the world. He knows what he wants and what he thinks. He needs no other reason, standards or considerations. His complete selfishness is as natural to him as breathing.......................


A quick sharp mind, courageous and not afraid to be hurt, has long grasped and understood completely that the world is not what he is. Consequently he cannot be hurt. The world has no painful surprise for him, he has long accepted what he can expect from it. Indifference and an infinite calm contempt is what he feels about the world and the men who are not like him. He knows what he wants and the work he wants, that is all he expects of life.....................


Nothing can really touch him, he is concerned only with what he does. Not how he feels. How he feels is entirely a matter of his own, which cannot be influenced by anything and anyone on the outside...........................

His main policy in life is to refuse, completely and uncompromisingly, any surrender to the thoughts and desires of others.

Has a code of ethics to call his own, and only because he wants it. Plays straight and has contempt for little plays and lies. Says what he means and does not care if others like it or not, they will have to accept it.

Can never lose himself in love, has had great loves in life, even then it will never be an all absorbing, selfless passion. It is merely pride of a possesor. If he could not have them, it would not break him or affect him deeply, he might suffer in his own indifferent way, a suffering that can never reach deep enough to obscure life.

His attitude towards love is not " I love you and I am yours " but rather " I love you and you are mine ". It is primarily a feeling of want and getting. Were it necessary he could rape her and still feel completely justified. ............................

His manner is one of profound, inexorable calm. A slow deliberate manner of speaking. Precise unhurried movements. Laughs seldom. Does not joke. Never an emotional outbreak. Never loses control of himself.

Thanks WB.
Bro abugga,

Every man is different 人个有志. But such a man is not "ideal" to me. He appears to hv good emotional control n his DGAD attitude will help him greatly in life n in his RS w/ women.

Cheers!

Bro WB

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Alas of course, many of us bros here cannot reach the stage of fucking a woman, let alone giving PVOs.

You must be quite rich to BY so many women. Perhaps one day if I were to reach your financial status, I can straight away offer to BY / ST a harem of women and give PVOs to them

Otherwise, me currently a poor young man - my salary is perhaps even lower than your BY rate, and not good at chatting up a woman also

Bro 3Days2Nights,

Of course you can. Get a steady GF or go to GL. 可是你人穷志不穷. You can still attract a lot of chio girls. There is a lot you can do to improve yourself, to become a MAN.

Me quite rich? Not really, I only hv a little money left, from a few lucky investments made earlier in life. It's important for a man to be rich inside and rich outside.

If you hv read my posts, money is a two-edged sword that can actually make it very difficult for a woman to fall for or get addicted to a wealthy man. Very few bros realize this fact.

Remember the famous story of Xi Shi 西施 and King Fuchai 夫差 of Wu 吴国?

Xi Shi was supposed to be one of the most beautiful women who ever lived in China. King Fuchai was young, handsome, masculine, rich, powerful n ambitious, a real KING! And he was very confident and had great self image because he was, in his own words, 天下最优秀的男人. It would be natural for Xi Shi to fall for such a man. No?

What happened? King Fuchai got bewitched or KC-ed by Xi Shi n I assume that he cared too much abt the girl n ended up spending all his time w/ her. Very bad idea. It should hv been the other way round: The girl got hopelessly addicted to the king. He made many mistakes a MAN should never make. If only he could read SBF 2500 years ago!! As a result he lost his beloved country n his own life. The beautiful girl didn't fall for him, didn't love him n didn't even care for his well bring. Most likely he couldn't n didn't give her frequent PVOs, and what if he did? We would never know haha. A classic n tragic case of KC n failed RS.

Now you know why I say a man's ability to give a very pretty girl frequent PVOs is a matter of life n death. I stand by the statement.

Cheers n good luck!

Bro WB
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Re: Picking up KTV gals ouside KTVs

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There is no right or wrong answer to everything in this world. These are all merely textbook discussions. For our pastime and reference only.

I may disclose some of my personal limited experiences, limited due to my young age haha. open for all to see, to ridicule, and to educate my errors. Until I can correctly sort them out into words, i would like to invite other readers to perhaps share more?
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Hi bro Warbird,

There is no right or wrong answer to everything in this world. These are all merely textbook discussions. For our pastime and reference only.

I may disclose some of my personal limited experiences, limited due to my young age haha. open for all to see, to ridicule, and to educate my errors. Until I can correctly sort them out into words, i would like to invite other readers to perhaps share more?
Bro abugga,

Yes, you're right. One man's meat is another man's poison. One woman's frog is another woman's prince haha.

If your subconscious mind has a set of beliefs and preconceptions, it will reject everything that doesn't agree w/ it. Then there is the Rashomon Effect...

It's great to be young. Are u younger than 30?

Please share your real-life, personal exploits w/ us. Most bros are just too shy or too busy to write FRs.

Cheers!

Bro WB
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Good morning!

There is a fascinating topic: KC or infatuation or falling in love w/ a girl, especially a WL. And the consequences of break up of that "love" RS.

Here I'll use KC as a colorful n generalized term for "falling in love" with any girl/woman because the biological and emotional processes are identical. And I believe that all man-woman RS is a form of business transaction. KC has at least 3 components: 1) lust, 2) romantic passion or infatuation and 3) attachment (commitment). These components can be felt for the same person at the same time, or they can be experienced completely independently from one another for different people. Romantic passion is short-lived (months to a yr?). Lust may last longer, but after many yrs, only emotional attachment is left.

What is surprising is that both men and women often get KC-ed by someone they consciously don't find attractive. Something must hv happened to their subconscious mind to trigger sexual attraction. I shall confine this discussion to men getting KC-ed by women.

There r so many instances, in the media, from reading SBF n from stories told by friends n relatives, in which a man has become so deeply KC-ed by a girl that he goes berserk when he is separated from her for whatever reason. He is so heartbroken that he can't sleep, can't work, can't stop thinking abt her. If she is alive, he will stalk her, even kill her n then commit suicide!

From a medical standpoint, such a love sick man suffers from an acute anxiety/hyper-arousal state. There is a huge surge in stress hormones (cortisols, adrenaline, etc.) n concomitant suppression of dopamine, oxytocin n serotonin...there may be elevated BP n heart rate, perspiration, sweating palms, tremors, physical pain, chest heaviness, shortness of breath, fatigue, anxiety, deep sense of loss, sadness, despondence, doom n groom. He is very tired but yet alert n can't relax. His immune system is shot and he may develop stress cardiomyopathy n could succumb to cardiac arrest and/or heart failure. Truly a case of broken heart!

These symptoms and signs of RS break up are stunningly similar to those of cocaine withdrawal. This has been confirmed by fMRI findings. http://psychcentral.com/news/2010/07...wal/15375.html

I met a new bro last month. He is in his early 30s, tall n handsome, from a well to do family. He told me that he had two 4-yr RS n each breakup took one full yr or more to recover, even though the breakup was mutual in both cases.

Here is a textbook case of a NICE GUY who gets KC-ed. A kaki, also in his 30s, met a KTV gal, quickly decided that she was the SPECIAL ONE, and after spending lots of money, upped her only once. Poor service n sex was quite bad. The gal returned to China after expiration of her tourist visa. He remitted money to her on several occasions. He texted and/or called her many times every day. She got annoyed n started to distance herself and he became needy n desperate. She finally asked him to stop contacting her. He became depressed, couldn't sleep or focus on his work. I had told him not to hv any ctc w/ her for 30 days, minimum. He keeps breaking this cardinal rule.

In another case, a personal friend n a rich n good looking bachelor, who couldn't sleep or work for months after his KTV GF broke up w/ him. He stalked her, offered to buy her a house in China plus big cash upfront. He flew to her hometown to propose to her...she avoided him as if he were a leper! That was 4 yrs ago...

My Fujian lao po WX and her ex BF, a rich young man in his early 30s had mutually agreed break up in Dec 2010, but he quickly regretted his decision...he became frantic n offered to buy her a house plus give her lots of cash. WX said NO n he proposed to her! She completely rejected him. In Feb 2011, she contacted me n in March she asked me to BY her.

Then there is our own Famous Samster and his HFJ PRC Story at SBF.

I hv never experienced anything quite as severe, not even remotely. My OC n every one of my mistress/lover/GF/ FB hv said that 你只要性,你是一个完全没感情的人 or you don't have a heart (a Malaysian Chinese girl said that decades ago). Well, not really, even though I'm a perfectionist n hv a mild case of narcissistic personality disorder. BTW, more men than women suffer from this disorder but the proportion among KTV gals is much higher than the general population n higher yet among singers. But I'm no robot n will give my case history of getting mildly KC-ed.

Decades ago, I had mild rejection anxiety once, didn't sleep well for a wk, but quickly recovered.

In 2009, I BY-ed my Fujian lao po WX briefly twice. I felt a sense of loss after each separation, but slept well n forgot abt her very quickly.

I met a 19 yo CD in Sep 2009, she agreed to BY but vanished the day we were supposed to meet. I was a little frustrated, but slept well n quickly forgot abt her. In Feb 2010, she was sighted at Dynasty. She immediately agreed to BY n the deal was consummated in March. I dumped her because I didn't like her dark brown n large vulval flaps. In 2012, I got her a job as a singer at a HFJ, but I didn't even bother to see her.

In Jan 2010, I BY-ed a n 18 yo student Michelle. I went to Gotham City in late March. When I returned after 5 weeks, she had just hooked up w/ a fellow student from China. She said he was going to marry her. I felt a slight loss but slept well n quickly forgot her. BTW, she broke up her GF after 2 yrs n in late 2013, she returned to Sg on a visitor pass. I met her n found her unattractive, no longer my type of gal. I flatly rejected her, despite her urging me to 开房, repeatedly. Most SYTs don't remain my type for long.

I hv BY-ed over 25 gals in the last 6 yrs n I hv done ALL the dumping except for Michelle.

Now I like to report my most severe break up withdrawal to date, even though it's still mild n brief.

In Feb this yr I told my Fujian lao po WX who had been w/ me for 4 yrs that if she returned to China for CNY, I would say goodbye to her. She had previously promised to stay with me in Sg during CNY. She reneged on the promise. She became very angry with me for wanting to breakup...she went back anyway n while in China she decided not to come back to SG. Even though I initiated the breakup, I was surprised that I did hv breakup anxiety n remorse. My Heart rate was higher by 6 per minute on the average, BP higher by 10 mm hg (it was 120 over 80 instead of the usual 110 over 70). I had occ sweaty palms, mild heaviness in chest n slept only 4 to 5 hrs a night, instead of the usual 7 hrs. I was a bit tired n fatigued, yet alert. I was slightly anxious and felt a mild sense of loss n frustration. My subconscious mind had long accepted WX as my lao po in Sg n this belief n habit were much stronger than my conscious decision n desire to break up w/ her.

Yes, I had signs and symptoms of mild to moderate withdrawal. Previously, I thought I would be immune to any break up pain because I hv other mistresses n GFs. In fact, 6 months ago, I actually urged WX to go home to get married. She was born in 1987 n had even mentioned abt bearing me a child. What happened was that I still had lust for her plus there was emotional attachment at the subconscious level. My lust was for her very well proportioned sexy body, exquisite pussy n her very intense, even violent clitoral n copulatory orgasms. I had also fxked her raw for 3 1/2 yrs w/o any STDs n my Oraquick has remained negative.

I read up abt how to get over a break up which has helped. I now hv a better insight n better understanding of myself n my subconscious mind.

Following the break up w/ WX I didn't sleep well for 18 days! I slept well the day before my young mistress was to return to Sg. All my withdrawal symptoms n signs completely vanished. Also on the same day, a girl who applied to study at Kaplan several months ago had her visa approved, after appeal. She is a new pussy. I hv met her but never seen her naked.

The cardinal rule for rapid break up recovery n to increase ur chances of getting ur ex back is NO CONTACT w/ her for 30 days, minimum, 60 days is much better. Keep busy. Exercise, do meditation n self hypnosis...I'll share what I hv learned abt how best to overcome this common problem at a later date. If you become needy n desperate, text or call 50 times a day or beg her, game over hahaha. If you know the right strategies, your ex will beg u to take her back.

Your FRs, comments n criticisms will be appreciated.
Hi bro warbird,

Recently a wl and I kena kc each other. She dropped me many hints wanna be my gf despite knowing I got a lover. I just ack blur as I don't have the heart and ability to share my love with another women. I used to consult her my rs problem which she can give me very useful advice, but recently she didn't want to talk abt my lover and once she said she hate her. I was shocked n asked her why and she replied to me that she hate stupid women. Later I realise it might be due to jealosy.

She complained to me she got chest pain and cannot sleep for few days recently, saw that on her qq zone too. I think it is due to me as she looked deeply into my eyes asking me why she got chest pain.

I guess she is trying to keep a distance from me by catching the hints from her wechat moment/qq zone and conversation with her. We didn't chat for a week (only one moment replied by her) as we used to chat for almost everyday.

May I know if she is really love sick,typically how long will she recover? What should I do if I would like to go back to the buddy status?

I do have heaviness in chest n thinking of her, sense of loss too but i can sleep pretty well. this two days seems better for me especially I have more chat with my lover
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Hi Warbirb,

I like your articles about girl. It seem that I do experience many times about what you have put in words.

Just to share one of my adventure.

3 months ago after seeing a friend off. On my way back to Dynasty I bumped into a KTV kakis. He asked me to join him at L4 rm3. I told him I will go later because I have 2 options for the night.

1. was to watch Getai in Geylang Lor 37.

2. was joined him. Decide to try option 2 first went up to L4 saw another kakis elderly doctor who I knew, he was with one young girl sitting in the lobby sofa telling me that my friends are in the room. I say hello and proceed to rm3. On upon arrival at room 3 saw through the door, the two kakis was having a good time with the girls.

I decided not to interrupted their enjoyment and went back to lift lobby and the doctor is still chatting with the young girl. Took the lift to Ground level and when the lift open one 1.75 slim lady grace into me and smile. I turn back and get back into the lift and ask her where she is going she say going to Dynasty I asked can we chat she agree and we proceed to L4 and when the lift open the doctor eyes was straight away fixed on the her.

We sat besides the doctor. For me I always set my terms very clear with girls I like, if she agree I carry on. I asked her can she play she says yes and asked me how I want to play.
1) I told her from inspecting from toe to head and if I like I will screw you, she smile.

2) You have to go to my secret place, she agreed.

3) What is your damages, she say this type of terms she is not familiar I kept silent since she is not familiar.

4) Can you drink, she say yes.

5) I will test you for an hour and if we can click then we proceed longer, she agree.

Walking to my secret place I praised her for courage to follow a stranger to a place new to her. Her reply was that I look like her former boy friend and she like me. Upon arrival of my secret place we settle down for a few minutes and after a while she ask permission to scrutulise the surrounding.

Turn on Jazz music and ask what your poison, she say Red wine I say let me check it out but I do not have red but white wine she say okay. Poped and she pour the wine into the glass with rule of respect that she placed her wine glass lower than mine when we cheers.

In China, if you are a lower rank you must not placed your glass at same level or higher if you respect the person. From this little attention, I knew tonight I am the one who dominating her. We chat like we knew each other for a long time.

She told me that she is learning Fashion design in Shanghai and need to pay school fees that why she join the tourist group to come to Singapore to earn more money to pay for her school fees.

First time to Singapore a soft spoken girl but very shrew. And for me, I like shrewed girl because I like challenge. After fondaling her for a while she lay down and ask whether I know massage. Being to massage for more than few hundred times surely I knew the fundamental and this is also an opportunity to scrutinize her from toe to head.

Asked her to lay face down with back up this is first position for her to relax and since her back is facing me I am in advantage of doing what I wish. She wore a purple tube I started from her feet and slowly goes up to her calves and tights and by pass her pussy and went north to the neck and head and slowly slide both sides down to her radio nuts and down to her tights and toes and up but now I remove her tube and she wore red bra and undies and like in the japanese prono massage do a lot of dirty talking and as I move near her pussy I use my last finger to slide under the undies and wipe her pussy lips and goes up to her nipple and fondle with it. Her breathing got a little heavy and softly say 不要 weather she faked or not I don't brother my mission as what brother Warbird mentioned is to give her PVO. The place is strange to her is naturally, she had some level of stress, in order to reduce her stress I take my time rubbing and enjoying my ride on her body. To me this is call test drive before I engaged. A few minutes of massage I flip her over where now she faced me. I continue massaging her this time from head to toe on the way slip my last finger under her red undies and she moan again and say 不要 again.

Now I decided to remove her undies and her bra. Her bra was push up bra and was very tight not easy to untie. I joking tell her that your bra must be very precious and with combination lock. I need to have struggle with a few combination number. She smiled and finally I found the combination and bra spring out. When she lay totally nude that is where I control myself not to get hot with her instead she begin to rub my prick for sign. Didn't feel any sign of arousing she was puzzle that I am not ready to screw her.

Proceed to finger fuck her first and to see what her reaction but she spoke very softly to me that she didn't like finger fucking but I ignored her continue with my wish to do what every I like.

Time just flies we started around 6.30pm and end around 9.45pm where she say that she late for another section TAM. Wore her clothes and compose herself asked me to send her to TAM. I firmly says no you get a cab there yourself I will pay for it because I drank 3/4 and she drank 1/4 if wine I don't because of her I got myself into trouble.

Before she go she gave me her contact and telling me that she is going back to China next week. I didn't bother to ask for China number but after one month she send a wechat ask me to add her. This is one of my lucky day that a girl interested in me but it very rare. Till todate I have not add her in my wechat because I have ex which beg me to take her back after 17 months. Is indeed very interesting that girl does have give in time just like man.
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Hi bro warbird,
Recently a wl and I kena kc each other. She dropped me many hints wanna be my gf despite knowing I got a lover............ too. I think it is due to me as she looked deeply into my eyes asking me why she got chest pain.

I guess she is trying to keep a distance from me by catching the hints from her wechat moment/qq zone and conversation with her. We didn't chat for a week (only one moment replied by her) as we used to chat for almost everyday.
May I know if she is really love sick,typically how long will she recover? What should I do if I would like to go back to the buddy status?
I do have heaviness in chest n thinking of her, sense of loss too but i can sleep pretty well. this two days seems better for me especially I have more chat with my lover
Bro Korean,

Both of u kena KC-ed? Only you can know for sure.

I assume that you still see her n fxk her, then there is no break up withdrawal for both of u. Her symptoms could be due to worries n anxiety.

As for yours, since you can still fxk her, it's NOT due to break up withdrawal. I wonder if it could be post-coital tristesse (PCT) or post coital dysphoria or post sex blues, feelings of emptiness, anxiety, even sadness after orgasms. I sometimes feel that after doing ST, but NOT after making love to my LT mistresses. I usually hug them a lot n n sleep w/ them for awhile after sex. May also go out to dinner...

http://www.vice.com/read/why-do-some...fter-an-orgasm

The cause is a huge surge of dopamine during orgasms n subsequent rapid fall. It affects both men n women. Other neurohormones are involved of course.

Cheers!

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Hi Warbirb,
I like your articles about girl. It seem that I do experience many times about what you have put in words.
Just to share one of my adventure.
3 months ago.............................
We sat besides the doctor. For me I always set my terms very clear with girls I like, if she agree I carry on. I asked her can she play she says yes and asked me how I want to play.
1) I told her from inspecting from toe to head and if I like I will screw you, she smile.
2) You have to go to my secret place, she agreed.
3) What is your damages, she say this type of terms she is not familiar I kept silent since she is not familiar.
4) Can you drink, she say yes.
5) I will test you for an hour and if we can click then we proceed longer, she agree.
Walking to my secret place I praised her for courage to follow a stranger to a place new to her. Her reply was that I look like her former boy friend and she like me......................................
Time just flies we started around 6.30pm and end around 9.45pm where she say that she late for another section TAM. Wore her clothes and compose herself asked me to send her to TAM. I firmly says no you get a cab there yourself I will pay for it because I drank 3/4 and she drank 1/4 if wine I don't because of her I got myself into trouble.
Before she go she gave me her contact and telling me that she is going back to China next week. I didn't bother to ask for China number but after one month she send a wechat ask me to add her. This is one of my lucky day that a girl interested in me but it very rare. Till todate I have not add her in my wechat because I have ex which beg me to take her back after 17 months. Is indeed very interesting that girl does have give in time just like man.
Bro AAconnection,

Tks so much for sharing your detailed FR.

Well done! I guess it was FOC for u.

Very few girls are 175 at PC. I met one about two months ago outside the cafeteria in late afternoon. Her name was XA, quite slim n elegant too. I didn't hv time to follow up. Wonder if she was the one u met.

No, it will not be rare for u from now on. You're the PRIZE! Never forget that.

Cheers!

Bro WB

...............................................

Good morning!

A few days ago, I mentioned the love triangle of Xi Shi, Fan Li and King Fu Chai. The ultimate victor was of course Fan Li, even though he was a slave of a slave in Wu where Fu Chai was the king. I wonder how he felt when he was treated worse than a slave and when he knew the beautiful girl he loved was being fxked daily by Fu chai, his arch enemy. Very few men could stay sane for so long under such adverse circumstances. And he actually volunteered to place himself in such degrading, painful and perilous situation. I salute his formidable emotional mastery, his die-hard loyalty to king Gou Jian, his integrity, audacity, persistence and his pure genius as a political/military strategist and, more than a decade later, as a benevolent philanthropic business tycoon. He is THE MAN!!

Meanwhile, the powerful king Fu Chai lost his power n his head in his RS w/ Xi Shi. Why? He loved her and cared for her too much...

Therefore, dear bro out there, you shouldn't be discouraged even if Carlos Slim's tall n handsome son were vying for your dream girl's affection. And even if you were currently down and out. Just remember this, you would still be 1,000 X better than Fan Li at kingdom of Wu...improve yourself daily, develop awesome emotional mastery and the dream girl would be yours, eventually...but then again, you might not want her anymore, hahaha.

Take home lesson: The power in a relationship lies with the one who cares the least.

Never ever relinquish your power as a man to any girl/woman, even if she were the last female on earth.

Cheers!

Bro WB

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Good morning!

My first ever outing to Lido Palace today HH is on.

I hv been spending too much time organizing outings n my yield in terms of finding new girls of my type has been measly in the last 4-5 years. Too many bros asked me too many questions n then never show up.

Interested bros should read my thread carefully n PM or text me when they r ready to confirm.

Let me repeat again, timing and charges at Lido Palace are abt the same as those at TAM. If you worry abt the minor differences, you shouldn't come.

I hv always reduced the damage to the minimum. In future, I'll be more generous to the mummy n invite fewer bros. It will save me a lot of time, the ONLY thing that is priceless to me.

Appreciate your understanding,

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Good morning,

I missed the following 2 posts.



Bro abugga,

Every man is different 人个有志. But such a man is not "ideal" to me. He appears to hv good emotional control n his DGAD attitude will help him greatly in life n in his RS w/ women.

Cheers!

Bro WB




Bro 3Days2Nights,

Of course you can. Get a steady GF or go to GL. 可是你人穷志不穷. You can still attract a lot of chio girls. There is a lot you can do to improve yourself, to become a MAN.

Me quite rich? Not really, I only hv a little money left, from a few lucky investments made earlier in life. It's important for a man to be rich inside and rich outside.

If you hv read my posts, money is a two-edged sword that can actually make it very difficult for a woman to fall for or get addicted to a wealthy man. Very few bros realize this fact.

Remember the famous story of Xi Shi 西施 and King Fuchai 夫差 of Wu 吴国?

Xi Shi was supposed to be one of the most beautiful women who ever lived in China. King Fuchai was young, handsome, masculine, rich, powerful n ambitious, a real KING! And he was very confident and had great self image because he was, in his own words, 天下最优秀的男人. It would be natural for Xi Shi to fall for such a man. No?

What happened? King Fuchai got bewitched or KC-ed by Xi Shi n I assume that he cared too much abt the girl n ended up spending all his time w/ her. Very bad idea. It should hv been the other way round: The girl got hopelessly addicted to the king. He made many mistakes a MAN should never make. If only he could read SBF 2500 years ago!! As a result he lost his beloved country n his own life. The beautiful girl didn't fall for him, didn't love him n didn't even care for his well bring. Most likely he couldn't n didn't give her frequent PVOs, and what if he did? We would never know haha. A classic n tragic case of KC n failed RS.

Now you know why I say a man's ability to give a very pretty girl frequent PVOs is a matter of life n death. I stand by the statement.

Cheers n good luck!

Bro WB
Money is a dangerous allurement. While it is without doubt that it is a powerful instrument to create that feeling of financial security, it is also a symbol of.... a man who is a potential carrot.

Clamouring over a gal and even begging her are both very wrong things to do. The man has to be the man. Its very unfortunate that trying to be nice, fair and giving are not really formulas to a successful relationship (and even marriage).

A friend once shared with me that he like his viet gal a lot and he had never overspent on this gal. His reasoning is that making a girl love him (rather than his money) is far more tenable than showering material gifts.

Honestly, if its material gifts, there are too many competitors. How to beat the rest of the men? My view is, be your own man, than to bow to the woman. The bros (esp WB) will understand my point. The man to have his own stand.

Never be in a rush to get the "deal done". What for. Expending large amounts of funds and time are not sure fire ways to close the deal. A relationship is like a plant. Both require time to nurture and grow.
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Re: Picking up KTV gals ouside KTVs

Always respected yr posts, I was wondering, if we always show minimal care, do we just wait for girls to approach us?
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Bros,

Thanks for yr posts. I'm overseas, will reply within a week.

Cheers!

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Always respected yr posts, I was wondering, if we always show minimal care, do we just wait for girls to approach us?
I think its more relevant to draw a line between reasonable amount of care and that which is excessive.

Not so much as to show little care or wait for them to come.

What is dangerous is to be to overly "enthu" in showing and trying to attract the gal. This can be dangerous. Like, some of my cheongster bros did before. One of them was so enthu until he literally waited for the gal to knock off from work at 3 am daily. (the gal is a singer).

Once its excessive, you can guess what the gal will do next. In fact, there is no need to guess. Humans being humans. Its natural for the gal to start to take it for granted or take it easy. But, this is not to advise you to play hard to get.

What you want the gal to do is to like you for what you are. Be the man you are. Don't put on a front. If you are not a "Mr Nicey" who would pull out the red carpet and welcome the gal to a restaurant, then don't do that. All such heightened acts of chivalry will gradually fade, after a while and leaving behind the person that you really are.

If you are out for the gal (for real), then don't act. If you are out for fun, also don't act. Be genuine be sincere. That's what attracts girls because of what you are, rather than what you aren't.

Its not a game, but a test of whether you believe in your own attractions. Sincerity also doesn't being doing stuff excessively. Note the diff.
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