Long Distance Tirak Relationship - Myth or Reality

[singrakthai]

Originally Posted by bkkguy

In order to apply for PR ,you needed to fulfill the 3 yrs WP plus taxes. If you have children with your present thai wife, you stand a even better chance.
You will be asked 10 questions on general knowledge about thai cultures.
Like when is the King birthday,what is car called in thai and what kind of flower do the queen like... etc
At the end of the PR interview, you need to present yourself (in thai ) on why they should give you the thai PR. All these will be filmed in sony video camera.You can say all the bulls and shits you want during the interview,just remember to 'wai' and say 'krap' every now and then.
Overall, the whole procedure is quite simple. Just follow all the rules stated in the application will do, you will on your way to be a thai PR.
If you want to go further than this, like getting a thai citizenship, you need to renew your PR 2X or 10yrs whichever come first.By then , who need a thai citzenship.Where as a thai PR is good enough for you to stay endlessly in thailand.

Great info! _/ \_ khob khun krup!

[Cat Man]

Originally Posted by siamcutey

Some people plan quietly and carry out their plans. While some plan out loud and yet never carry out.

So the moral behind this post. ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS

SC

when I got serious about my plan I actually became more secretive. because tell everybody wait cannot do how? then i will be very pai seh. but that's just me. other people maybe want to share because they very excited about their plan?

how we know or not whether bro Free can carry out his plan or not? it took me almost 2 years to make the crossing to LOS, after seeking out every opportunity I could think of. It's not so easy, as those of you who managed to get here will know. but if got will, the way will appear.

[Cat Man]

Originally Posted by singrakthai

Khun khon meow nah sorn sarn... yang yoo moderation... hehehe.. top chaar..

Phom ayu yang mai tueng sarn sip pee loey! Khun gor yoo tee nee nan kwaa, phom khit waa riak khun pen pee dee kwaa.... haha...
Chai, dtong chai kam leuk leuk tae gor dtong mee khon khao jai dai, chai mai krup? hahaha... phood len.. dtae jing jing tha thaam pen Khun Aacharn gor mai dai ngoen yok thao rai.... Khun Khon Meow mee tod (lobang) dai nae-nam mai, krup? hehehe

yiam leow! mai yoo moderation leow! khop khun pee moderator tii ploy pom na krap.
ayu yang mai teung sam sip?? yang nan, pom gor pen pee loey!
ajarn doen ngoen noy mak. dton nee khun pen ajarn ler? mee tod reu plao gor leow tae khun tham arai eun dai bang?

Originally Posted by singrakthai

I asked this question because this is very normal behaviour for Thai women.. ESPECIALLY ex-WL... lets face it... if ur current gf is ex-WL, she knows u have the habit of visiting prostitutions... my friend's ex-WL gf calls him every minute... don't think they'll last cos now he'd jus been posted to work in Thailand and he'll be exposed to even more "qualified", "decent", beautiful Thai women...

Thanks for sharing.

cheers

Trust (or rather lack of it) will always be an issue you have to grapple with in r/s with WL. also, like in yr friend's case, and in mine for quite a while, WL have a lot of insecurity especially when they know you can function in normal Thai society and have exposure to normal TG. they will think since you are educated, you will be more attracted to educated TG. That's why I make it a point not to be too friendly with my office TG colleagues or go out for lunch with them. one, I might kena tempted. two, my wife will get jealous. It's really not the other WL in Thailand that ex-WL gfs are afraid of. Because other WL, they know they still can fight. but wah piang, they will be very scared of losing you to non-WL TG with uni education and from good family.

[free]

Originally Posted by Cat Man

Trust (or rather lack of it) will always be an issue you have to grapple with in r/s with WL. also, like in yr friend's case, and in mine for quite a while, WL have a lot of insecurity especially when they know you can function in normal Thai society and have exposure to normal TG. they will think since you are educated, you will be more attracted to educated TG. That's why I make it a point not to be too friendly with my office TG colleagues or go out for lunch with them. one, I might kena tempted. two, my wife will get jealous. It's really not the other WL in Thailand that ex-WL gfs are afraid of. Because other WL, they know they still can fight. but wah piang, they will be very scared of losing you to non-WL TG with uni education and from good family

This is something especially true for Thai women-with-a-past. If we chose someone like that, all the more we need to take special efforts to be not only be faithful. but to be seen to be faithful as well. Else hell might just break loose - Hell hath no fury worse than a ex-WL scorned. Seen enough of it. Wouldn;t want to try.

Originally Posted by Cat Man

when I got serious about my plan I actually became more secretive. because tell everybody wait cannot do how? then i will be very pai seh. but that's just me. other people maybe want to share because they very excited about their plan?

how we know or not whether bro Free can carry out his plan or not? it took me almost 2 years to make the crossing to LOS, after seeking out every opportunity I could think of. It's not so easy, as those of you who managed to get here will know. but if got will, the way will appear.

I never think it is going to be easy. If anything, we both know it may take at least 2 more years before we fulfill our final dreams that we can be together everyday on a permanent basis. For now, a part of our shared dreams have come true, and the rest must follow passage of time, as more opportunities crossed our paths. Perhaps I am lucky, as in adddition to those opportunites I seek out in the course of my work, my tirak also actively seeks opportunities for us - with the motivation that we can work together (555, maybe she also scared I kena tempted if she not around - as if there are n o temptations here in SG? More in my opinion ).

Anyway, Cat Man, u are right. Your post is so timely for it is really true that as I approach my final objectives, one I do begin to feel like sharing less and less (talking more about generals than specifics). In fact there are already some things we have done recently that I have stopped sharing, cos they don't bring any purpose to the original objectives of this thread

Originally Posted by Free

I hope this thread can help those who walk this path by serving as a place to share our experiences, joys and pains as we embark on our long journey together. When we do the right things that get results, lets share it that others bros may learn and emulate (with adaptations of course), When we made mistakes, let others learn from them too, that they may not repeat them. If we are sad, let others comfort us, and let us also give strength to those who are down.

I think I have said enough to those who need to know that there are always both sides of the coin - While there are TGs who cheat the foreigner and to a lesser extent the other way round, there are also many sincere cases that may not make it (definitely the majority) cos a LDTR is hard to hold, compared to one where the couple can meet and see each other easily.

Now I must walk the remainder of my journey, in quiet and in peace, known only to a few close bros, for they are the ones who lift me up whenever the pain of separation by distance of the LDTR can get too much to bear. For the rest, I bid u guys farewell, whatever position that u may hold in terrms of a Long Distance Relationship with a TG. All I know is I have not regreted my past 2 and current r/s and I am certainly glad I chose this one to walk the remainder of the journey together.

If I do come back to post again (will not be doing so for a while), it will be after I have done the remainder of the things that needed to be done. Do continue to have fun at the forum, and please dun forget to be more open-minded to people who walk a different path from u, hold different perspectives and have different goals in life. After all, it's these differences that made the world go round.

Just had a rather long talk with my tirak, and we are glad we are still together, ready & determined to face the world ahead of us.

Raa Dtrii Sawat Na Krap.

[sg69]

dear brudders in this thread, i must thank all of you for sharing your information and experiences. i just came back from LOS but my heart remains there. my thai gf is not a WL for what i know. met her at a pub, went shopping, clubbing, dinner and we enjoyed each other company very much. she is still studying and graduating soon. lives in a rented apt alone and spend her money very wisely. she drives too. i wonder where she gets her $ but dare not ask bcoz i afraid i will offend her. maybe her family doing quite ok, dats what i hope and she is not doing anything on the side.

anyway, i madly miss her and calls her almost everyday. (use Starhub prepaid card coz. M1 expensive) we will talk for 5 mins everyday and sms each other as n when. I only know her for 5 days n i m head over heels over her. Truthfully, nothing physical happened between us. we will meet n parted our ways but on my last nite i spent the nite with her in the same bed but we just cuddle to sleep as she said she doesn't things to happen so fast n i must be nuts abt her n i repsected her. (nothing of this sort happen to me before in sg, if in sg, girl in same bed as me, i sure fuck her). i, myself, dunno why i m behaving this way. i m in the process of divorce (not bcoz of my thai gf) n in my mid 30s n my thai gf in her 20s. i long to go over there n settle there n see how things work out but of coz i can't. dunno how am i going to survive there...i mean financially. so i will visit her every 2 months as dat is what i can afford for now. dunno will this last but i do hope so. she nvr ask for $ when i was with her...sometimes she even pay for food. i can't get her off my head. am i foolish, brudders? this is the 1st time i go bkk n came bk like this. everytime i go i gt happenings there foc but nvr had such feelings b4. do hope this thread can enlighten me further...thank you brudders..will keep u updated if anyone is interested. by the way, maybe we shld have a kopi session over tis...do let me know...

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by free

What else is a TG likely to do in Bahrain? Still got to ask meh? Dun help she got a husband who dun work and a young daugher & aged parents to feed. No excuses, cos this one also want to have a life of "haves" and not willing to suffer hardship. I have no issues with her as long as she knows how to be greng jai and dun try to chio my tirak into joining her. She tried once when times were really for us both and kenaed "hammered" by my tirak and since then, has never done it again. Since she now respects my tirak's wish to lead a normal life, I dun see a need to stop their friendship. She's actually a rather nice ger really - pretty and shapely too, 555.z

End of the day, SC, trust is 2-way. My tirak has got to trust me as much as I got to trust her. We are comfortable with that and are glad the r/s still grows despite the distance/. Me and me alone will either reap the fruits of the trust I placed in her (or bear the brunt) and vice versa. And only the 2 of us know where we stand in each other's lives today.

Perhaps what we look for in a r/s is a bit different than what u would want. Different strokes for different folks. For some r/s, its out of sight out of mind, for others, absence makes the heart grows fonder. Anyway, when the time comes, we will know whethere we have made the right decision today.

I have to ask this question what she do in Bahrain, if not their will be people who think their tirak is working as waitress or office girl there.

U still dun understand WL. As long as your tirak keeps in contact with this friend of hers, there is every single chance of your tirak going back to the line. This friend of hers don't even need to say anything. Simple small little actions which seem harmless.
Go out makan, eat restaurant.
LV bag flash out thai baht in 1000s
Drive a honda around ferrying your tirak.
Buying clothings from boutiques rather than from pasar malam.
etc.....

This are small little actions which unknowingly lure girls into the trade. Don't even need to open mouth and the girls will open mouths to ask instead.
A harmless dinner date doesn't look harmless.

TRUST? Putting it in words is easy. And often a much used reason.

SC

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by Cat Man

when I got serious about my plan I actually became more secretive. because tell everybody wait cannot do how? then i will be very pai seh. but that's just me. other people maybe want to share because they very excited about their plan?

how we know or not whether bro Free can carry out his plan or not? it took me almost 2 years to make the crossing to LOS, after seeking out every opportunity I could think of. It's not so easy, as those of you who managed to get here will know. but if got will, the way will appear.

Too much excitement and they forgot to carry out their plan?
I have friends who are samsters who married Ex-Cat40 girls. The same thing they say. If you not in one, don't find one. If you find one, stop it. And one thing is they don't always plan n plan. Instead they do and do.

SC

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by sg69

dear brudders in this thread, i must thank all of you for sharing your information and experiences. i just came back from LOS but my heart remains there. my thai gf is not a WL for what i know. met her at a pub, went shopping, clubbing, dinner and we enjoyed each other company very much. she is still studying and graduating soon. lives in a rented apt alone and spend her money very wisely. she drives too. i wonder where she gets her $ but dare not ask bcoz i afraid i will offend her. maybe her family doing quite ok, dats what i hope and she is not doing anything on the side.

Let me share with you some tips. I don't say teach, just for sharing purposes. Very simple and no need to offend anyone too.


1. Ask her where is her province?
2. Ask her why she stay alone and why her parents don't stay with her.
3. Ask her how many brothers sisters she have. (This question is impt so that you know how the funds from her parents are channeled)
4. U been with her for few days, you should be able to know what kind of clothes and fashion she wear. Observe.

[This section important. Because can decide what kind of lifestyle she living.]
5. Which area of rented apt she stay in BKK?
6. Ask her how much rent she pay for her apt.
7. Does she use aircon often?
8. What are the furniture in her room?(Eg, what size TV, fridge, computer if any)

9. What car, and what make of car is she driving?
10. Since she is not working, money of course come from parents if not from other sources. So ask her what business her parents in.

Studying and graduating, drive car, stay rented apt, unless she is from an abv middle income family, I don't think an UNI student can afford all these.

11. Since meet in pub, do you remember what drink was she drinking?
Spey royal, Ballantine, Red Label, Black label, Chivas, Cocktail or other designer drinks?

Observe and see. I believe you don't know speak thai since u first time to bkk, so ask you to tell us what she talk on the phone with friends also useless.

Another trick I share with you. Next trip up, you ask Singrakthai to meet you and your girl and you buy him a drink. This drink will be very very worth it, because Singrakthai can observe for you things which you cannot see. tio boh, Singrakthai?

SC

[Cat Man]

Originally Posted by siamcutey

U still dun understand WL. As long as your tirak keeps in contact with this friend of hers, there is every single chance of your tirak going back to the line.

True. As long as they are plugged into their international WL/FL TG network (God forbid the day they set up forum like this one!!), they always got lobang to go back to work. And if they know you scared that they go back to work, then they lagi use this to threaten you to get what they want

You have to keep them tied down until they become lau char bor, then no such risk

[Cat Man]

Originally Posted by siamcutey

Another trick I share with you. Next trip up, you ask Singrakthai to meet you and your girl and you buy him a drink. This drink will be very very worth it, because Singrakthai can observe for you things which you cannot see. tio boh, Singrakthai?

SC

Not say I cynical hor, but this girl sounds like "tau zhoh" uni type. really decent uni type from family with money will be closely guarded by their parents and stay with parents or relatives, not live alone in apartment. I suggest bro sg69 you take up bro SC advice and ask bro Singrakthai to help you scan her.

[Cat Man]

Originally Posted by siamcutey

Too much excitement and they forgot to carry out their plan?
I have friends who are samsters who married Ex-Cat40 girls. The same thing they say. If you not in one, don't find one. If you find one, stop it. And one thing is they don't always plan n plan. Instead they do and do.

SC

yah. don't go and look for trouble. want TG for wife, make good plan, find good job in BKK. got millions of chioh non-WL TG here.

but i won't trade my wife for any one of them - the power of TRUE LOVE

[bkkguy]

Originally Posted by siamcutey

Let me share with you some tips. I don't say teach, just for sharing purposes. Very simple and no need to offend anyone too.


1. Ask her where is her province?
2. Ask her why she stay alone and why her parents don't stay with her.
3. Ask her how many brothers sisters she have. (This question is impt so that you know how the funds from her parents are channeled)
4. U been with her for few days, you should be able to know what kind of clothes and fashion she wear. Observe.

[This section important. Because can decide what kind of lifestyle she living.]
5. Which area of rented apt she stay in BKK?
6. Ask her how much rent she pay for her apt.
7. Does she use aircon often?
8. What are the furniture in her room?(Eg, what size TV, fridge, computer if any)

9. What car, and what make of car is she driving?
10. Since she is not working, money of course come from parents if not from other sources. So ask her what business her parents in.

Studying and graduating, drive car, stay rented apt, unless she is from an abv middle income family, I don't think an UNI student can afford all these.

11. Since meet in pub, do you remember what drink was she drinking?
Spey royal, Ballantine, Red Label, Black label, Chivas, Cocktail or other designer drinks?


SC

Great advice!

[Cat Man]

wah bro bkkguy, you really wake up early to read SBF!

[singrakthai]

Originally Posted by Cat Man

yiam leow! mai yoo moderation leow! khop khun pee moderator tii ploy pom na krap.
ayu yang mai teung sam sip?? yang nan, pom gor pen pee loey!
ajarn doen ngoen noy mak. dton nee khun pen ajarn ler? mee tod reu plao gor leow tae khun tham arai eun dai bang?

hehe.. pee khon meow phood thai kheng mak na... rian yoo nai rue fan sorn hai? hehe phom mai chai ajarn krup... tham kieow kup dtua ten.... hehehe yin dee tee dai ruujak pee khon meow.

Originally Posted by Cat Man

Trust (or rather lack of it) will always be an issue you have to grapple with in r/s with WL. also, like in yr friend's case, and in mine for quite a while, WL have a lot of insecurity especially when they know you can function in normal Thai society and have exposure to normal TG. they will think since you are educated, you will be more attracted to educated TG. That's why I make it a point not to be too friendly with my office TG colleagues or go out for lunch with them. one, I might kena tempted. two, my wife will get jealous. It's really not the other WL in Thailand that ex-WL gfs are afraid of. Because other WL, they know they still can fight. but wah piang, they will be very scared of losing you to non-WL TG with uni education and from good family.

Glad to know u and ur gf is doing well and has overcome this stage cos I believe this stage is the toughest if u're with an ex-WL.... of cos one has to overcome oneself's temptation towards the many other more beautiful and eligible Thai women out there first... hehehe

[singrakthai]

Originally Posted by Cat Man

wah bro bkkguy, you really wake up early to read SBF!

hehehe Good morning! U too! Arun wadee duay krup, pee bkkguy!

wannee phom ja pai bangpoo... ja gin khao duay kan mai krup? hehehe diow phom ja thor haa pee bkkguy....