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[hostgirlasian]

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[AdGuy]

Someone asked me just now 'After 1 month, there's only 13 members in your forum. Why do you even bother?'

My reply: 'I bother because there are 13 others who bother'. And for them, I'll continue to try to make this a useful resource for all.

Repost.

Originally Posted by AdGuy

Dear bros,

We have updated the following songs in the forum, some of which are dedications from our bros.

I really like this series. It's got some really nice love songs in there.

Enjoy!

With this batch, we have concluded our phase 1 trial. I look forward to your continuous support.

Click here for the following:

Anh Yêu Em Nhiều Lắm
Chim Trắng Mồ Côi
Đã Không Yêu Thì Thôi
Chỉ Có Thể Là Tình Yêu
Huyền Thoại Tình Yêu
Giọt Sương
Mãi Là Người Đến Sau
Ngỡ Như Giấc Mơ
Làm Sao Em Biết
Làm Sao Anh Biết
Người Đến Sau
Nước Mắt Kẻ Đa Tình
Tình Yêu Diệu Kỳ
Sao Anh Ra Đi
Sorry - Bao Thy

[jackbl]

HCMC drivers not mice for doomed experiment
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Lines of cars and motorbikes are in a gridlock on Hoang Van Thu Street in Ho Chi Minh City
Ho Chi Minh City should not rush into installing an electronic toll system downtown. Both the city’s infrastructure and its citizens are simply not ready for it.


A city proposal to implement Electronic Road Pricing (ERP) for cars in HCMC’s downtown has drawn criticism from the public, the National Assembly and outside analysts – just about everybody except for the company set to earn a profit on the project.

Tien Phong (Innovative) Technology Development Corp. (ITD) has been overexcited about employing “the modern technology of Singapore,” in downtown Saigon ever since it was assigned to carry out the project, but no reliable study suggests that such an innovation would suit HCMC.

Lam Thieu Quan, general director of ITD, said such a study would be too expensive. He said the company would only carry out such a study if the municipal administration officially approved the project.

Quite an odd process.

Instead of doing a study and then proposing a method for approval, the method has been proposed and the company is waiting for approval before doing a study.

It should also be known that the city government chose ITD not through bidding but simply because the company operates 70 percent of the country’s automatic toll stations. In other words, ITD was chosen not as the best contractor offering the lowest cost, but as a familiar toll collector.

ITD has cited the successful implementation of ERP in Singapore, London and Stockholm to support the toll system case.

But when you compare those cities to HCMC, the difference is stark. Our infrastructure is poorer, our roads are fewer and of lower quality, and our drivers obey a much smaller percentage of traffic regulations than in those cities.

ERP alone will not solve the traffic problem. Public transportation must be improved and traffic police also have to do their job.

In London, traffic jams were reduced by 50-60 percent after ERP because people switched to public transport. But public buses cannot replace private vehicles in Vietnam, both in terms of quantity and quality. Car owners in Vietnam, who are by definition wealthy, would much rather pay a few dong to take their car into the city than crowd into one of our dirty buses.

Some have said that the city should be brave enough to give the method a try to see how effective it might be. But such a trial will cost VND700 billion (US$39 million) in taxpayer money, and most residents would rather not be the mice in a failed experiment.

By Phuong Thanh

[tomcat007]

I for one am very thankful for Bro AdGuy for starting the forum. Reason why there's only 13 members in the forum could be due to the fact that registration is not compulsory in order to browse the content. Like me. I just signed up in order to get the translation of the songs I requested. I'm sure others will follow...

[lovesprout]

Originally Posted by AdGuy

Someone asked me just now 'After 1 month, there's only 13 members in your forum. Why do you even bother?'

My reply: 'I bother because there are 13 others who bother'. And for them, I'll continue to try to make this a useful resource for all.

Repost.

Please keep up. There are 14 people bother now. I just registered but the number did not reflect on your website.

[jackbl]

Bro, do u bother to read those news article I posted? if no good response, i will not post anymore...

Originally Posted by lovesprout

Please keep up. There are 14 people bother now. I just registered but the number did not reflect on your website.

[jackbl]

Webs for teens: a lot of rubbish
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VietNamNet Bridge – The boom in Vietnamese language information websites has stirred up many problems, reports Tuoi Tre. Warnings have been released (Stars of scandals). Readers told the daily their worries about some websites for teenage.

As the cost of buying domain names and software and hiring servers gets cheaper, it becomes very easy to have an information website. And, though the number of websites increases, the volume and quality of news seems not to rise. Instead the society sees growing piles of “cultural rubbish”.


Information chaos

If one stumbles into a website targeted on a young audience, for example kenh14.vn, he/she may recoil in surprise, asking “what information are teens reading?



If a visitor types in the keyword “lộ hàng” (exposing ones assets, either accidentally or intentionally) , the Google search box integrated on kenh14.vn returns thousands of articles about this content. Similarly, keyword “ảnh nóng” (sexy photos) brings about 791 articles and 921 articles are returned for “hot girl.” This website was launched only two years ago.

On another website for teenage, dan… net, which calls itself “the place connecting the Vietnamese teen community”, are articles with headlines like “16 postures of love”, “guiding love postures of Kama Sutra”, “teen girl takes off her trousers on the bus”, etc.

“9X” refers to the ‘90’s generation,’ today’s teenagers. A website named 9x…vn has “Teen self-satisfied with dog” or “9x girls with super-big butts” and other sexy headlines. A website for young people named sa…vn posted “One night at a hotel”, “Teen prostitute hairdresser,” etc. Most popular on viet…com, another site aimed at youth, are stories like “Teen rolls up blouse to show bust”, “Naked girls in fighting”, etc.

These websites tell every detail about the personal lives of both Vietnamese and foreign celebrities and backstage show business stories. From them Vietnam’s teens learn that a singer has lost her sexy photos, an actress is having an affair with a rich businessman, a female star smokes and is addicted to alcohol, a famous actress often quarrels with her husband, neglects her pet or … loses her hat. From their body measurements to the colours of their nails, world celebrities are exploited complete with photos to serve teens from 13-19 years old.

Rather ordinary stories are “re-processed” by sub-editors into “hot stories” with liberal use of question marks, quotation marks or thrilling words to excite teen readers’ curiosity. For instance, reporting an actor who played the role of a vampire who goes walking with his son, a website wrote: “Vampire takes his son to street.” The headline of a story about the sudden death of a paparazzi is “The Lady Gaga murders”. An interview with a young singer in a print magazine with the headline “My predestined affinity hasn’t appeared” was posted on a website for teenage with the headline “Why do I need to have baby with [actor Johnny] Tri Nguyen?”

How about educational items? The “Study-Education” column on the teen…vn website introduces how to copy from a friend’s work, how to cheat in sports or win status with other students. The language on these sites is extremely odd, and full of wrong grammar and spelling.



Where are government agencies?

Though these websites are “information webs,” the information posted on these sites is copied from other sources, both online and print, with source quotations like “according to XYZ”, without the name of the authors. In many cases, the copied stories are totally different from original information, harming the prestige of official newswires.

Most of these sites are managed by companies but they operate like e-newspapers. Some websites have titles like reporters, editors, sub-editors, etc. Kenh14, for example, has freelance reporters who are students. The website tuva…com claims falsely that it’s an authorized ‘online newspaper.’ The stories published on this site are unsourced though all of them are copied from legitimate newspapers and magazines.

The goal of these websites is to lure readers and sell advertisements. Leaving aside whether they violate the rules on advertising, it is illegal to use the intellectual property of others to do business. In addition, many sites belong to individuals who have not bothered to get a licence.

“General news websites” are mushrooming on the net with no oversight. They instruct our youth on fashion trends, how to be stylish and and urge them to patronize luxurious entertainment centres. The young tend to learn from their idols. Reading information about a beauty queen who will pose for nude photos for charity and seeing sexy photos of a Chinese student, also for “charitable purpose”, a contestant in a teen pageant stated she too would be “willing to pose for nude photos for charity.”

“Cultural rubbish” is a broad category that not only covers useless and illegally copied information bad things that can affect the young. With all this going on, where are the government agencies?



Reader comments

Duc Thanh writes: “Surfing some foreign sites for teens like teen.com, teenmag.com, kidshealth.org, etc., I’m impressed by their youthful and simple design and information for the young. I tried to make a comparison between these sites and some Vietnamese sites for teens like kenh14.vn, hihihehe.com, and teen.vn to find out the differences.

“The difference is not in design or technical skills of the website designers but the content of information they provide to the youth. Looking through columns on the Vietnamese sites, readers will only see “teen shock” and “gossips” with stories about celebrities with sexy photos, their lifestyles, etc., tricks to woo a girl or a boy, information that teaches pragmatic and flighty lifestyles. There is a little healthy and educational entertaining information or information about studies. We can search for hundreds of dirty articles and photos on these websites.

“The language on these sites is a hodgepodge, with Vietnamese and English mixed together (10 tips cham soc ban chan [10 tips to care your feet]) and languages that one can’t find out in dictionaries (Musik, 2-Tek!, tjm 0x kg ne`, Can` Tym Gap 1 BX). All of these things are harming our teen readers.”

Duc Toan, who identifies himself as an officer of the HCMC Foreign Trade University Student Association, asks “what is Kenh14.vn doing with the young? Bad information about lifestyle, fashion and entertainment has been published freely on this site. Notably, this website is among the top sites in Vietnam in terms of hita and readers, according to Alexa.

“It is not unusual to see clubs named “I don’t like kenh14.vn” on facebook but this website is still very popular. A member of Kenh14.vn’s forum told me “The success of Kenh14 is that it is hated but the kids still visit it”.

“I’m scared that my little sister will be attracted by such website and neglect studies. I wish the authorities would take measures against such websites!”

‘baochau.susu’ writes that “we kids often visit kenh14.vn. Many people say this website is a rag with too many stories about celebrities and sexy photos. This comment is unfair. Many ‘legitimate’ websites for adults are also full of similar content. Adults tell us to not visit kenh14.vn but if we click to the websites they favor, the contents and designs are not different.

“I think instead of absolutely criticizing kenh14.vn, we need to address the content of this website to make it more useful for teenagers. If this website were to give up the lifestyle of “venerating hot boys and hot girls”, the use of deformed English and Vietnamese and have a clear educating direction, I think kenh14.vn can develop strongly, at least in the eyes of teenage readers, who always like entertaining information.”

‘khoa05cvl’ comments that “though I’m a teen, I don’t like such websites like kenh14.vn. It’s a rag full of lies. Reading such things doesn’t help teens in any way. If teens want to relax, they can listen to music and read newspaper or books. There are a lot of other entertaining stuff that is more useful and interesting than information about hot boys, hot girls or singer X showing her bust or actress X falling.”

‘huynh_lemai’ exclaims that we should “notice one simple thing! News like “Poor students overcome difficulties”, “Children in remote areas still go to school,” etc. have never appeared on kenh14. Sad!”

‘Trieuduong85’ asks “why is it only the websites for teens that get criticized? Are websites for adults are so serious? They also post slipshod articles like “The most beautiful Korean busts”, “The butts of celebrity”, “Let’s admire star footballers’ girlfriends in their hot bikinis.” This garbage is everywhere, from online to print newspapers.

“Is it meaningful to forcing kids to learn serious things while “adults” waste their time reading junk news? I’m not a teen anymore and I don’t like such websites as kenh14 but can’t see that I have the right to preach at teens when many adults are not good examples.”

Finally, ‘phanxineblog.com’ asks why we don’t carry out research projects on the impact of trashy websites on the youth or on the society. We should ask why our youth like visiting these websites rather than serious ones. Instead of getting alarmed by the appearance of these websites, let’s study why these websites develop strongly and why the youth like them.

I believe that once readers reach a certain education level or awareness, they will require information at higher level than the stuff supplied by these websites.

VietNamNet/Tuoi Tre

[lovesprout]

Originally Posted by jackbl

Bro, do u bother to read those news article I posted? if no good response, i will not post anymore...

I do read some of the news you posted here, but not all of them. Without these posts, this forum will become very quite.

[jackbl]

Out of 10 persons that i went pubbing with, 8 of them can speak vietnamese.... They are not members of SBF somemore.... So this forum has achieved its aim, to equip everyone with a little knowledge of vietnamese

Originally Posted by lovesprout

I do read some of the news you posted here, but not all of them. Without these posts, this forum will become very quite.

[Hurricane88]

Originally Posted by jackbl

Out of 10 persons that i went pubbing with, 8 of them can speak vietnamese.... They are not members of SBF somemore.... So this forum has achieved its aim, to equip everyone with a little knowledge of vietnamese

I want to say bro jackbl you deserve a reward or medal for all your effort....let me lead all brothers who had benefited from your tieng viet lessons to give you a round of applause...clap clap clap...please continue...

[jackbl]

I didnt do anything special leh I think they (8 ppl) see members of SBF speak vietnamese in front of gals, so they decided to be like them, able to speak a little vietnamese...... So we need to thank those members of SBF who went pubbing and "dare to speak" and "dare to KC". They become the role model of these 8 ppl

Originally Posted by Hurricane88

I want to say bro jackbl you deserve a reward or medal for all your effort....let me lead all brothers who had benefited from your tieng viet lessons to give you a round of applause...clap clap clap...please continue...

[jackbl]

You can write FRs on these gals : Hien (HM), Athao (M51), Hanh (Orchard), Suo (Orchard), Nhien (BL), Tina (M51), Nhung (HM), Trang (J51), Hanh (HM)

Those sms they sent u, and how u decode those difficult one These learning experiences will be beneficial to us

Originally Posted by lovesprout

I do read some of the news you posted here, but not all of them. Without these posts, this forum will become very quite.

[jackbl]

More to Saigon than just gridlock traffic
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VietNamNet Bridge – Strolling around Saigon can be a fascinating experience with the hurry of pedestrians and the bustle of heavy traffic. Saigon is bustling, hustling and dusty, even smoky. Saigon has no the ancientness of thousand-year-old Athens City or the magnificence of Paris. Saigon is young, small, but entices tourists thanks to its distinctions in culture, history, food and people.

Towering buildings, luxury hotels and trade centers interlace with old architectural works to dress Saigon up with the freshness of a new era. One glance at a line of buildings in Saigon offers visitors many genres of décor, from French colonial designs with meticulous decorations and onion-shaped Indian vaults to three-door Chinese temple gates. And Saigon’s streets capture romance under the shade of seasoned trees.

“Saigon is too weird, amidst the center are towering green trees, making the city poetic,” said a tourist from the Netherlands.

Saigon is also made interesting by its small corner markets which are always busy in a jubilant ambiance of trading. Some trading streets have existed for a long time, such as a 200-year-old trading street in Cho Lon (China Town) in District 5 and a rice selling street called Tran Chanh Chieu that was born in 1750 in the Chinese community.

Those interested in antiques can roam Le Cong Kieu Street in District 1. This small street holds about 40 shops selling antique lamps in thousands of shapes and sizes, ceramics, chairs, tables and clocks. At the end of the street are paintings, wood works and parallel sentences. Coming here, tourists feel they are lost in an antique museum.

Colorful flowers and fruits abound on Le Thanh Ton Street next to Ben Thanh Market. There, tourists can purchase all kinds of Vietnamese fruit and multicolored flowers.

If tourists want to wander colorful streets, Hai Thuong Lan Ong and Trang Tu in District 5 are recommended.

Coming here, tourists can learn more about the daily life and customs of Chinese people and can satisfy their eyes with cute ornaments, especially near Christmas. Luong Nhu Hoc in this district is dazzling with red and yellow dragon costumes, bonnets and gowns for royal and traditional drama performances.

Exploring Saigon on foot, by bicycle or by cyclo to take a taste of Saigon life gives a sense that Saigon is also poetic, charming and gentle, not only bustling and hustling as standard complaints go.

VietNamNet/SGT

[SureScore]

Originally Posted by Hurricane88

I want to say bro jackbl you deserve a reward or medal for all your effort....let me lead all brothers who had benefited from your tieng viet lessons to give you a round of applause...clap clap clap...please continue...

Yes, I salute Bro jackbl too. A round of applause for him.

Clap Clap clap............

[zhu star]

Originally Posted by jackbl

Bro, do u bother to read those news article I posted? if no good response, i will not post anymore...

Bro, don't stop posting these articles. I find it useful both as a cheongster and as a potential buisness investor. I am sure there are many out there reading this posting w/o replies etc.........