The one you marry, is not the one you loved most?

[JWNY]

Originally Posted by OceanEleven

Women never seems to understand that sometimes things are best spoken straight to the point. Many a time we are obsessed with work commitment where we derive recognition, satisfactory and bring the bacon home.

Yes...and may i add that the role of men is catered almost in a way that bro Ocean has described...but for women, that only makes half a man...the other half is made up of giving her undivided attention and always being there for her...but alas...we men are but normal human beings...

JWNY

[JWNY]

Originally Posted by giggz83

he said this.. if ever, he felt angry and want to flare at his wife or his wife gave him a stupid remark .. he will always think .. who is the biggest in his household. obviously, it is his wife, and no matter how stupid or absurb the arguement is, he will give in. Every small matter, he would give in unconditionally. For big problem, he will talk out with his wife. hence, constant communication is ensured.

I don't mind let my wife wear the pants in the house...but she must not exploit it...

Once upon a time:

JWNY was really busy and his girlfriend of 4 years was scheduled to see an evening show, with tickets already bought...but due to a last minute call up at work...was late but had informed thy partner already...when JWNY showed up at rendezvous

JWNY: Sorry I'm late, shall we catch the show it's only about 25 mins gone?

ex GF: For what? I want to go home!

JWNY: I'm sorry about that..how about dinner?

ex GF: Go yourself...i not hungry

JWNY: ...why no i send you..

ex GF: I rather go home myself...

JWNY:

2 days later, tell her best friend i was late for a movie...don't want to bring her for dinner and deserted her by going home myself...

WOMEN! just tell us WHAT you want...we can't read minds LADIES!!

JWNY

[Spud_Boy]

Originally Posted by JWNY

Yes...and may i add that the role of men is catered almost in a way that bro Ocean has described...but for women, that only makes half a man...the other half is made up of giving her undivided attention and always being there for her...but alas...we men are but normal human beings...

JWNY

yup.. normal human beings who will at times also want to have things done our way & at our own time.. but really takes another understanding half to allow u the lew-way whenever u need to let out all the vent up frustrations..

we as men (IMHO) should always try to have a bigger heart & let them have their way.. but always try to reflect to them how u feel.. don't let them take u for granted.. cuz it'll be u & the r/s that will suffer in time to come..

[Spud_Boy]

Originally Posted by JWNY

WOMEN! just tell us WHAT you want...we can't read minds LADIES!!

JWNY

& when we tell them to just tell us what they are really thinkin, they will say it's nothin & u don't understand them..

[JWNY]

Hmmm...is this written by a she?

JWNY

Giving unconditional love requires you to love without any expectations. It seems difficult to only love and not demand anything in return in today’s world where everyone is selfish and egotistic. But even in this world we see many examples of unconditional love, for example the love a mother gives to her child, the love between two life partners and the love bestowed upon siblings. To love unconditionally you will have to learn to sacrifice your self, your desires, and most importantly your ego. Let’s find out how to love unconditionally and give happiness to a person without demanding anything in return.

First of all you have to remember that you are not supposed to expect anything from the person you love. It’s true that love makes its way itself. When you love somebody with so much passion and ardor, it’s sure to come round in one way or another. But if somehow you don’t get as much as you give, don’t complain or argue. Always keep in mind that loving others and giving them everything you have will make you satisfied and happy with yourself.

You need to develop a strong will power to be able to love unconditionally. At some point in our lives we all demand some kind of love and want to express our own love for someone. Believe in the principle of giving more and demanding less. When someone asks you for a favor always be ready to give it. Never complain that you don’t have enough or you have other tasks to do. Set your priorities in such a way that everyone else comes first and your own demands come last.

When you love somebody unconditionally you want the best for that person. Think positively about them even if they make mistakes or do not return your feelings. Give them sincere advice about their future and other decisions. Always look around for the betterment of your loved ones without any envy on your part. If you have to sacrifice something of your own for them, don’t hesitate to do so. Only then you will truly be able to love unconditionally.

Remember that unconditional love is given without any expectations or limitations. You don’t define any scope of your love or that how long will you love a person. This is an eternal feeling which should be kept alive in all circumstances and all situations. Never lose hope and keep on loving people who are dear and close to you, only then you will be able to live a completely satisfied and emotionally balanced life.

[giggz83]

Originally Posted by Spud_Boy

& when we tell them to just tell us what they are really thinkin, they will say it's nothin & u don't understand them..

wooh~ classic line indeed .. when the word nothing comes out, it spells trouble.

[jinrenhe]

Originally Posted by JWNY

Hmmm...is this written by a she?
JWNY

It seems difficult to only love and not demand anything in return in today’s world where everyone is selfish and egotistic---
You need to develop a strong will power to be able to love unconditionally. At some point in our lives we all demand some kind of love and want to express our own love for someone. Believe in the principle of giving more and demanding less. When someone asks you for a favor always be ready to give it. Never complain that you don’t have enough or you have other tasks to do. Set your priorities in such a way that everyone else comes first and your own demands come last.

Never lose hope and keep on loving people who are dear and close to you, only then you will be able to live a completely satisfied and emotionally balanced life.

what a profund passage bro Jwny... is this based on ur own experiences?

Anyway this is what i've been struggling with for a long time... indeed it requires a lot to be able to keep "giving" to the person u love, yet expect nothing in return.

And sometimes it gets rely tiring & tedious. Whilst i do not mind giving all i have to the gal i love, it's rely disheartening when i realized she's not really concerned about me when i'm feeling down.

Sometimes u don't mind helping the people around u. But u only realized how cold the world is when u need help, and these people seem nonchalent.
The only "unconditional love" i've experienced is from my mom... she loves me alot & expect nothing from a lousy boy like me

so nowadays i try to treat my family better... as for the gals, maybe tired already, all my efforts seemed wasted, so dun rely go out of my way to help them like i did last time

[JWNY]

Originally Posted by jinrenhe

what a profund passage bro Jwny... is this based on ur own experiences?

No it wasn't...

I believe it would take a lot for someone to keep on giving and really expect nothing in return...

JWNY

[giggz83]

Originally Posted by JWNY

No it wasn't...

I believe it would take a lot for someone to keep on giving and really expect nothing in return...

JWNY

mmm ... i used to keep on giving and expect nth in return (but i told her 2 time per week is the best reward she can give) .. cos i think it is a men's responsibility .. you see.

well, ok, no used the gal still leave.

[Deztruct]

Originally Posted by Shuang_Jie_Gun

This is an Art,i am a novice to all this theory as well,just applying what i have read,not much of practical lessons though.

the trick is not to juz try it on gers u like..i sure everyday u wld hv some contacts..why not juz try it on them also? tis kind of things need practice..its like takin a penalty kick at world cup final..u dun juz go n take it..before tat during training..u muz hv taken them also..so tat u can be well prepared when the situation really come

[Deztruct]

i always believe tat true love is unconditional and to certain extent..i did do tat towards my ex...at least i hope she feel the same way also

[OceanEleven]

Originally Posted by JWNY

No it wasn't...

I believe it would take a lot for someone to keep on giving and really expect nothing in return...

JWNY

To expect nothing in return is impossible, we are expecting at least to reciprocate, meaning we give our unconditional love and we want to be loved in return. There is no one way traffic in a relationship, even if there is, there will be a time where enough is enough and call it quits.

[Shuang_Jie_Gun]

Originally Posted by OceanEleven

To expect nothing in return is impossible, we are expecting at least to reciprocate, meaning we give our unconditional love and we want to be loved in return. There is no one way traffic in a relationship, even if there is, there will be a time where enough is enough and call it quits.

it's sad but true.one-way traffic kind of love wont last.in the 1st place it shouldnt had started.love is between 2 mutual person whom should love each other be it good or bad.

[JWNY]

Originally Posted by OceanEleven

To expect nothing in return is impossible, we are expecting at least to reciprocate, meaning we give our unconditional love and we want to be loved in return. There is no one way traffic in a relationship, even if there is, there will be a time where enough is enough and call it quits.

Couldn't agree more bro

JWNY

[JWNY]

Originally Posted by Shuang_Jie_Gun

it's sad but true.one-way traffic kind of love wont last.in the 1st place it shouldnt had started.love is between 2 mutual person whom should love each other be it good or bad.

Everyone admits that love is wonderful and necessary, yet no one agrees on just what it is. ~ Diane Ackerman

I think so too.....

JWNY