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Old 26-09-2009, 10:32 PM
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Re: Jail, caning for rapist for last year raping

I read this case on papers, I dont understand too ...

how can the gal made police report after few months ?
how to proof that she is force into sex ??

unless the rapist admit it... i really dont understand

women's charter always side the women... we are always on the losing side, so better be careful when stand too near to gal in MRT or Bus. If accidentally touch the gal, and she shout molest, we also will kenna... no joke about this
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Old 27-09-2009, 12:29 AM
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Re: Jail, caning for rapist for last year raping

This case really proved one thing...dun ever think u can get away with any rape or molest case even if nothing happens to u after a year. Scary man...i think the guilt plus the interrogation skill of the Police Investigator must have played an important part to make the rapist confessed everthing.
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Re: Jail, caning for rapist for last year raping

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Perhaps the confession was coerced. How easy is it just for a gal to cry rape and the guilty judgment is passed immediately on the guy. Too many questions left unanswered especially on the gal and police investigation. After one year any physical evidence properly gone so did police charged him based on hearsay of the gal or did the guy really confess without duress to his crime?
Hi bro Frankiestine,

How are you?

I dont really know if there was a confession in this matter. The general position is that confessions are not admissible in court unless the person relying on it can prove beyond reasonable doubt that the confession was obtained voluntarily. There were cases where the courts had ruled certain confessions to be inadmissible on the ground that the prosecution had failed to discharge the burden imposed on them by law. This goes to suggests that confessions have sometimes been extracted from the accused. In a crime attracting capital punishment it is unlikely that the police will extract a confession from the accused where other evidence are conclusive enough. In sexual offences the court will not convict the accused in the absence of other independent evidence apart from the mere complaint of the victim. The fact that his lawyer had advised him to plead guilty suggests that there were other evidence or the accused himself had confessed to his lawyer that he had indeed committed the offence.
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Re: Jail, caning for rapist for last year raping

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Hi bro Frankiestine,

How are you?

I dont really know if there was a confession in this matter. The general position is that confessions are not admissible in court unless the person relying on it can prove beyond reasonable doubt that the confession was obtained voluntarily. There were cases where the courts had ruled certain confessions to be inadmissible on the ground that the prosecution had failed to discharge the burden imposed on them by law. This goes to suggests that confessions have sometimes been extracted from the accused. In a crime attracting capital punishment it is unlikely that the police will extract a confession from the accused where other evidence are conclusive enough. In sexual offences the court will not convict the accused in the absence of other independent evidence apart from the mere complaint of the victim. The fact that his lawyer had advised him to plead guilty suggests that there were other evidence or the accused himself had confessed to his lawyer that he had indeed committed the offence.

maybe he is cheated or conned by the IO (investigating officer) to admit the charges, the IO may have tell him that they have evidence or whatever, the guy scared and sign the statement.

i have a friend , he got charged for CBT case, and the IO sort of "sweet talk him or lie" to him.... telling him that he is sure to be convicted, if he admit, he will get lighter sentence. Then he signed the statement, and when finally he engaged a lawyer, the lawyer say he stupid to sign all this statement.
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Old 29-09-2009, 10:31 AM
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Then he signed the statement, and when finally he engaged a lawyer, the lawyer say he stupid to sign all this statement.
Yah, dun ever believe whatever the f**k the IO tells you. If you are asked to sign anything, always get a lawyer first. You are going to need one anyway after you sign.
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Re: Jail, caning for rapist for last year raping

This case....shows that don't anyhow play play with any girl. Even after one year, things may changed and it comes back to haunt you if you do
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Old 29-09-2009, 01:53 PM
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Re: Jail, caning for rapist for last year raping

As case was reported one year later, usually very difficult to charge. Most probably his confession leave the investigator and the prosecutor no choice but to charge him.
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Re: Jail, caning for rapist for last year raping

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Many years ago, there was a rapist who raped 2 girls within a few days. One of the girls, after reporting had sex with her bf the very nite.

Don't get me wrong, my reply doesn't mean I am in defence of the rapist, just that why that girl didnt report initially. Maybe she was a willing party, or she was traumatised.
Cheebye itchy, want fast fast...

Go home bf wants 2nd round... then come to senses what she did not right...

so go report and act innocent to BF and try get some money to coverup for her "Damages"... in event cannot get money, so just fuck it and let the bastard die...

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Old 29-09-2009, 02:45 PM
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Re: Jail, caning for rapist for last year raping

SG Law is relatively simple.

Plaintiff is always right, Defendant is always wrong.
To win the case, defendant must prove his innocence.

but until then, defendant is considered guilty.

"Eg: Man A said he saw Man B throw a pad down from his flat, Man B cannot find a alibi hence he is guilty till further evidence is brought up. Let say he was sentence to life imprisonment and after serving 5 years, there is a witness to say during that particular time, he was spotted somewhere else. Hence case would be brought up again but he had already served 5 years of innocent jail term"

This is what you call... JUSTICE!

I believe in army, justice is much simplier... Do you remember your enchik saying "do what you want, just don't get caught"
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Old 29-09-2009, 02:59 PM
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Hi bro Frankiestine,

The general position is that confessions are not admissible in court unless the person relying on it can prove beyond reasonable doubt that the confession was obtained voluntarily. There were cases where the courts had ruled certain confessions to be inadmissible on the ground that the prosecution had failed to discharge the burden imposed on them by law.......

The fact that his lawyer had advised him to plead guilty suggests that there were other evidence or the accused himself had confessed to his lawyer that he had indeed committed the offence.
Bro u mean in most conviction the accused is charged on basis of solid evidence rather then their own confession?
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Re: Jail, caning for rapist for last year raping

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SG Law is relatively simple.

Plaintiff is always right, Defendant is always wrong.
To win the case, defendant must prove his innocence.

but until then, defendant is considered guilty.

"Eg: Man A said he saw Man B throw a pad down from his flat, Man B cannot find a alibi hence he is guilty till further evidence is brought up. Let say he was sentence to life imprisonment and after serving 5 years, there is a witness to say during that particular time, he was spotted somewhere else. Hence case would be brought up again but he had already served 5 years of innocent jail term"

This is what you call... JUSTICE!

I believe in army, justice is much simplier... Do you remember your enchik saying "do what you want, just don't get caught"
There is some truth in what you have stated. This is because we have a system where the objective is not to let anyone who has committed a wrong escape punishment. So with that, there will be rare occasions where innocent people are punished.
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Old 29-09-2009, 05:01 PM
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Re: Jail, caning for rapist for last year raping

My take on this is: Stay out of trouble's way. Verify all girls that you are going to ONS with.
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Then a few months later, KNN, I got called to be a defence witness, apparently she went to report say she kena raped by him. F**king bitch, anyway, in the end, the matter settled out of court after my friend's father paid the money demanded by the ger's mother.
Bro, your testament to say that her CB itchy still not powderful enuff to save your fren arh! Wah lan eh! Women's Charter really more say than SG Law!
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Bro, your testament to say that her CB itchy still not powderful enuff to save your fren arh! Wah lan eh! Women's Charter really more say than SG Law!
Not trying to be vengeful...but if this sort of thing happened to me and I suay kenna convicted and caned....when I come out, I confirmed get some acid and splashed on that CB's face......
She used her beauty to con ppl, she won't get that chance anymore.
Make sure she is scarred for life.
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Bro, your testament to say that her CB itchy still not powderful enuff to save your fren arh! Wah lan eh! Women's Charter really more say than SG Law!
The 4 of us testified that she acted provocatively and was not forced into the room. But in the end his lawyer said the chances are 50-50 so his father decided not to take the chance and settle out of court. The main reason? Was because got no witness during the whole process of f**king to state that she was a willing party!

I think Edison Chen had the right idea lor, take video just in case she say he rape then can submit as court evidence to say that she willingly took part. Anybody know any good DV cam that can video in total darkness?
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