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Old 19-03-2012, 12:32 PM
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Re: Understanding Vietnamese Life Partner

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Normally if there's no indication here that she's married to you and records shows that she frequents here too "regularly" and stays all the way tilll the social visit pass is expired, it as tell tale sign that she could be one of those coming here to work. That said, they were all views based solely on her entry/exit records.

Your wife would know where to get the translation done and "chopped" with the red official ink in Vietnam. I am not sure where it is but I reckon most vietnamese will know. Just like we know our ICA.

These are the documents to prepare on her side that must be translated, "chopped with red official ink" and certified true copy:

1.) Birth cert
2.) marriage cert
3.) highest education cert (if any)
4.) Household census book

You do not need the originals but need certified true copies as verified by vietnamese authorities. 2 sets: one in vietnamese and one translated copy in english.

This should be sufficient for her side. The rest will be your own income proof, education proof etc etc as stated in application form.

Hope this helps!
Hi bro, yeah i guessed it would be the long stays that made her rejected. Guess only time can heal this scar in ica records.

Btw can you explain to me what is household census book ? . Is it the one that show the family tree ? Her parents her relative etc etc ?
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Old 19-03-2012, 12:36 PM
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Hi bro, yeah i guessed it would be the long stays that made her rejected. Guess only time can heal this scar in ica records.

Btw can you explain to me what is household census book ? . Is it the one that show the family tree ? Her parents her relative etc etc ?
in Vn...household census book refers to where she lives and her name register in it...example

if she lives in a house as per address...
her name
father name
mother name
siblings name

assuming she lives in the same house as her immediate family...under teh same address...

every household must register with the local police dept otherwise can get into trouble with the law...
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Old 19-03-2012, 12:48 PM
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in Vn...household census book refers to where she lives and her name register in it...example

if she lives in a house as per address...
her name
father name
mother name
siblings name

assuming she lives in the same house as her immediate family...under teh same address...

every household must register with the local police dept otherwise can get into trouble with the law...
Kay ... Have that ... So now is to translate my cert ... Can i get it done in sg ?
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Old 19-03-2012, 12:58 PM
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she will not get letter of refusal when she presents her passport at the airport checkpoint counter...she only will not get a stamp on her passport and asked to return
I have seen such letter before. Even when the vb produce her marriage cert also useless...

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Hi bro, yeah i guessed it would be the long stays that made her rejected. Guess only time can heal this scar in ica records.
Long stay is definitely the main resaon..
I was told by a senior that I should not let my girlfriend stay long time here when I was able to bring her in after her ban period. After multiple short visits, one day I was told by the officer at the airport immigration theat her record is clean now.
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Kay ... Have that ... So now is to translate my cert ... Can i get it done in sg ?
yes, same as the marriage cert...you can get all these documents translated by the Vn embassy in Sinkie...

if you search these thread...you will noticed all these discussed before...
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Old 19-03-2012, 01:14 PM
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Long stay is definitely the main resaon..
I was told by a senior that I should not let my girlfriend stay long time here when I was able to bring her in after her ban period. After multiple short visits, one day I was told by the officer at the airport immigration theat her record is clean now.
Yes it is....but that's only because of the VBs' trend of coming and working till the very last day. It is so common that ICA will just use that as a starting gauge of a vietnamese gal's intention and reason to be in singapore, without needing to ask anything... haha

I know of one VB who will stay here max max 3 weeks. She never stays till max allowed date and will leave once she covered her air ticket, accomodation and her intended earnings target. Sometimes 2 weeks.

So far I have seen her around regularly for the past year....so i guess it works. Most likely ICA classified her as frequent "business" vistor. As in always here for short biz trips. HAHA!!
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Hi bro, yeah i guessed it would be the long stays that made her rejected. Guess only time can heal this scar in ica records.

Btw can you explain to me what is household census book ? . Is it the one that show the family tree ? Her parents her relative etc etc ?
just an info to you,whatever document u dont have,u have to declare there why u dont have.

That time when i apply,i only use her birth cert and our marriage cert and i declare that she dont have any educational cert and household cenus book and she sign.together with my document,they issue her the ltvp.

they will want to see the orginal copy so u must bring along but they wont keep,they just want to see only and keep the photocopy one

as what 1 bro say,your vietnam document and translate one must stamp with a red ink
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Old 19-03-2012, 01:31 PM
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The letter just states under the immgration act, my wife has been ineligible to be issued a pass . Thats all.

So i asked her to stay in viet, 6 mths passed. Visited her thrice, damn in laws like sucking blood. Getting more n more worse, even blamed her for not providing for the family. I only gave them enough money every month to eat, the rest i gave my wife to keep in case of emergency.
Dont give in to your in law request,just give whatever u think is manageable every month.Dont soften your heart.Lots of bro have share here on what to do and roughly how much to give every month,just read through.

Is norm for their own parents to ask for more since she marry a foreigner so always pretend that u are a poor chap and cannot afford this and afford that
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Old 19-03-2012, 04:00 PM
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just an info to you,whatever document u dont have,u have to declare there why u dont have.

That time when i apply,i only use her birth cert and our marriage cert and i declare that she dont have any educational cert and household cenus book and she sign.together with my document,they issue her the ltvp.

they will want to see the orginal copy so u must bring along but they wont keep,they just want to see only and keep the photocopy one

as what 1 bro say,your vietnam document and translate one must stamp with a red ink
Can i get that stamped in sg ?? Or i need to go back during my next trip For the authority in viet to get it stamped ?.? 6 hrs trip frm hcm is bored, plus that kind of wecome i rather not have
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Old 19-03-2012, 04:16 PM
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Dont give in to your in law request,just give whatever u think is manageable every month.Dont soften your heart.Lots of bro have share here on what to do and roughly how much to give every month,just read through.

Is norm for their own parents to ask for more since she marry a foreigner so always pretend that u are a poor chap and cannot afford this and afford that
No , im not giving in i only give what i feel its enough based on personal experience. I told wife before our marriage, im marry her and not buying her whole family. This family consist of both of us, both of us need to work hard for this family. Im not rich, nor i live in big houses. I only have a heart that is willing to be oxa em tot suet doi, im still young now but i will work to make sure you dont starve. When time ripe i will bring you over to stay with me. I think her parents despise me because i didnt give them a lot of things when we marry, despite not being rich she still chose to marry me.
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SG ROM do not require anybody to register again as vietnam marriage cert is recognise in singapore.since he say his marriage cert is from vietnam kampong and not HCM,my advise to him is

bring his kampong cert to check with ICA first,if they recognise,then no need do anything and apply ltvp accordingly.
Aiyoh aiyoh.... no matter where yr vn marriage cert is issued, as long as its a vn marriage certificate, its recognised in Singapore. there is no need to register with Singapore ROM again. Just bring your Vn marriage certificate to a translator in HCM and get it translated into English. Next, the translator will ask you if you want it notorised by a notary public. get it notorised by vn notary public. Bring the VN marriage cert, both original and translated / notorised copy to ICA to apply for LTSVP.

BTW, almost all official chops in VN are red plus round in colour. My company chop also red and round, but i cannot chop as i am not notary public.. hihihi. Last time, as long as ICA see a big round red vietnam chop, they will say ok. I think they have become smarter, they want to see the translated copy in english and has the word `Notary Public'.
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No , im not giving in i only give what i feel its enough based on personal experience. I told wife before our marriage, im marry her and not buying her whole family. This family consist of both of us, both of us need to work hard for this family. Im not rich, nor i live in big houses. I only have a heart that is willing to be oxa em tot suet doi, im still young now but i will work to make sure you dont starve. When time ripe i will bring you over to stay with me. I think her parents despise me because i didnt give them a lot of things when we marry, despite not being rich she still chose to marry me.
no offend bro,normally they will marry despite sg man not rich cos as long as can marry to sg,is a way for them to get out of poverty.look at those young girl marry those old man in sg through marriage agency then u will know

for them,earning 2.2k is rich to them but for normal sg standard,is consider not high if u are going to feel her,your family and next time your kids cos nowadays expenses is going up.

educate her cos she might not know and let her know that she might not get a job if she intend to if she is not highly educated,dont know how to speak any english or chinese
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You can bring your marriage certificate to translate at Le Hong Phong Street at Q3, the whole street is doing it. Its a famous street in HCM for translation. Normal translation is around 80K VND per copy, if plus notorised by notary public, max also 300K VND. Nowadays, other streets like Le Van Si , Q3 also have.
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Aiyoh aiyoh.... no matter where yr vn marriage cert is issued, as long as its a vn marriage certificate, its recognised in Singapore. there is no need to register with Singapore ROM again. Just bring your Vn marriage certificate to a translator in HCM and get it translated into English. Next, the translator will ask you if you want it notorised by a notary public. get it notorised by vn notary public. Bring the VN marriage cert, both original and translated / notorised copy to ICA to apply for LTSVP.

BTW, almost all official chops in VN are red plus round in colour. My company chop also red and round, but i cannot chop as i am not notary public.. hihihi. Last time, as long as ICA see a big round red vietnam chop, they will say ok. I think they have become smarter, they want to see the translated copy in english and has the word `Notary Public'.
ya,that time when i marry there,i still remember my wife have to cut into standard size for my photo and all those photocopy document.I ask her ask why so troublesome,is a paper what,she say vietnam ppl like that one.They want the standard size.OH MY GOD
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ya,that time when i marry there,i still remember my wife have to cut into standard size for my photo and all those photocopy document.I ask her ask why so troublesome,is a paper what,she say vietnam ppl like that one.They want the standard size.OH MY GOD
they still doing that leh...
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