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Re: Understanding Vietnamese Life Partner

Hi need some advice here

Some back story
I am reaching 40 soon and married but no kids yet. Last year I start to go into viet pub scene frequently and get to know a VB.

She holding work pass holder and only work at pub maybe twice a week as she have a full time job in the day .

So during that time we go have sex almost every week till today. Early Jan this year we change from hotel to her house after some conversation. She did mention she also got go with other customer but not that often before COVID . So till now i seem to the be the one who still looking for her for sex. Off and on she still meeting her friend ( maybe long regualer customer) for dinner . She mention no sex as also there no hotel available and they are married .

I think quite hard for her to let so many different man to her house to have sex as other roommate will see it and due to her day time job .

So overall these month I have developed feeling on her and she know . But I tell her that for now if I am the only man with her I will treat her good but if let say if after COVID period she want to have other customer , i ask her to let me know so I try to maintain a customer work ger relationship.

She say she kind of like me too but both of us know we don’t really have a future as I married. ( my wife done nothing wrong and still like me a lot and I Will not let her know of this to break her heart )

So recently I reliZe I sink deeper onto her . I manage to know her fb and see and I see some photo that she having dinner with a guy ( cannot see the face but can see the hand ) at her house or other people house .

So I question her and she lie to me say is her roommate bf and tel me if I still want to continue find her she welcome and if I don’t wan she is ok . Still fren and ask me don’t think too much.

So I call her and we talk. She admit that is not her roommate bf but is her ex bf. Which I know of too. She still keep in contact with him . She say they are not like bf/gf but also not customer and more than friend . No sex no money involve. So after some talk we clear the air . She say she enjoy the moment we have for now .

By the way her boss still thought she is with her bf as she also tell me need to maintain that fake status as she before that don’t want her boss to suspect anything why she got money to go eat good food or buy expensive thing as that time she go pub work . I become the one that cannot be seen.

Now i thinking I wan to pull my feeling out but still continue to find her . But kind of hard to pull the feeling off. Anyway to “motivate “ myself not to fall so deep ?

Or try to make her fall in love with me and hold the Er nan status ?

All the viet shifu please advice .
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Re: Understanding Vietnamese Life Partner

Bottom line was you are a "married" man ...
If wana makan outside, finish off by wiping off your mouth suits best.
Not advisable to commit relationship outside unless wana take Risk.
Even with FOC fxxx with no money involved also a risk later.
Remember ... Free meal comes with a price too.
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Ya, out here many Viet Sifu,
But to become Viet Sifu also means we had been through all these Shits and experienced crossed swords with Viets bu to stand where we are today.

Haha i rather be a Fresh Grad Viet Bu Chiongster, All Fresh Fresh.
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Bottom line was you are a "married" man ...
If wana makan outside, finish off by wiping off your mouth suits best.
Not advisable to commit relationship outside unless wana take Risk.
Even with FOC fxxx with no money involved also a risk later.
Remember ... Free meal comes with a price too.
Sunken into Saigon Rose world ... believed lot of bros got Stung before liao.

Ya, out here many Viet Sifu,
But to become Viet Sifu also means we had been through all these Shits and experienced crossed swords with Viets bu to stand where we are today.

Haha i rather be a Fresh Grad Viet Bu Chiongster, All Fresh Fresh.
Now ... Retiring from Viet sector lol ...
Hi for me still got money involve . when see her , have Sex then give .

Yes I understand not to commit any relationship outside . Most of the time I eat fl and massage spa . Tho even sometime I had fling with 2 different thai ger ( not at hang flower place ) , we end it quite fast. .

Go hang flower also hang for fun . Just get ger down and play only . Very early part also go mask 51 very often but never have feeling for vb before . Maybe got but die offf very fast. Still noob and never go oversea play at that time

Then just last years start to go viet pub , sit wijt gers and go hotel like 2 time only. . Normally I go pub don’t really go hotel , just enjoy the beer and ger accompany .

But this ger I thought is also just another sex only , then Sex after sex , week after week. I get hook to her and now here I am having some type of feeling . Think it’s around maybe 9 mths of sex already.

Guess got to keep motivate myself not to have feeling for her. I would actually keep looking at my phone to see she would msg me or not. But sometime I am able to shake off that feeling then next week the cycle start again.
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Re: Understanding Vietnamese Life Partner

How I wish 15 years back I am not so naive . Then go around play or even go till oversea play . Only last few year ago I manage to go thailand with group of brother and really actualy taste the oversea power .

Only one time and that’s it.

Might be also because i and my wife did not have sex for close to one year . Before that we have sex also because want to try for baby . I did not have the urge with her . Over the year when I go fl or massage is always just hj or bj. Only last year I start to actually have sex with working ger .

By the way the viet ger that I am with now is around 30+ already . Think the second time we have sex , we didi raw halfway , then after that it is always raw .

Actually I should not say now with. I don’t think I have win her heart yet. Maybe also because she cannot do sideline now so stick to me.

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How I wish 15 years back I am not so naive . Then go around play or even go till oversea play . Only last few year ago I manage to go thailand with group of brother and really actualy taste the oversea power .

Only one time and that’s it.

Might be also because i and my wife did not have sex for close to one year . Before that we have sex also because want to try for baby . I did not have the urge with her . Over the year when I go fl or massage is always just hj or bj. Only last year I start to actually have sex with working ger .

By the way the viet ger that I am with now is around 30+ already . Think the second time we have sex , we didi raw halfway , then after that it is always raw .

Actually I should not say now with. I don’t think I have win her heart yet. Maybe also because she cannot do sideline now so stick to me.
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Hi need some advice here

Some back story
I am reaching 40 soon and married but no kids yet. Last year I start to go into viet pub scene frequently and get to know a VB.

She holding work pass holder and only work at pub maybe twice a week as she have a full time job in the day .

So during that time we go have sex almost every week till today. Early Jan this year we change from hotel to her house after some conversation. She did mention she also got go with other customer but not that often before COVID . So till now i seem to the be the one who still looking for her for sex. Off and on she still meeting her friend ( maybe long regualer customer) for dinner . She mention no sex as also there no hotel available and they are married .

I think quite hard for her to let so many different man to her house to have sex as other roommate will see it and due to her day time job .

So overall these month I have developed feeling on her and she know . But I tell her that for now if I am the only man with her I will treat her good but if let say if after COVID period she want to have other customer , i ask her to let me know so I try to maintain a customer work ger relationship.

She say she kind of like me too but both of us know we don’t really have a future as I married. ( my wife done nothing wrong and still like me a lot and I Will not let her know of this to break her heart )

So recently I reliZe I sink deeper onto her . I manage to know her fb and see and I see some photo that she having dinner with a guy ( cannot see the face but can see the hand ) at her house or other people house .

So I question her and she lie to me say is her roommate bf and tel me if I still want to continue find her she welcome and if I don’t wan she is ok . Still fren and ask me don’t think too much.

So I call her and we talk. She admit that is not her roommate bf but is her ex bf. Which I know of too. She still keep in contact with him . She say they are not like bf/gf but also not customer and more than friend . No sex no money involve. So after some talk we clear the air . She say she enjoy the moment we have for now .

By the way her boss still thought she is with her bf as she also tell me need to maintain that fake status as she before that don’t want her boss to suspect anything why she got money to go eat good food or buy expensive thing as that time she go pub work . I become the one that cannot be seen.

Now i thinking I wan to pull my feeling out but still continue to find her . But kind of hard to pull the feeling off. Anyway to “motivate “ myself not to fall so deep ?

Or try to make her fall in love with me and hold the Er nan status ?

All the viet shifu please advice .
Not sure what advice you want...

I may sound harsh but I will not hide my viewpoints here...so please accept my views here...

One sentence to describe your tryst now..."lack of sex leading to lust tryst"...hate to say you do not love her...you are just paying as a transaction to her to satisfy your lust...

Also she doesn't love you at all becos she is termed "working lady"...:

Sort out your marriage and then you can decide how you want to proceed...any wrong move and you can get into been a pauper...
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Bottom line was you are a "married" man ...
If wana makan outside, finish off by wiping off your mouth suits best.
Not advisable to commit relationship outside unless wana take Risk.
Even with FOC fxxx with no money involved also a risk later.
Remember ... Free meal comes with a price too.
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Hi for me still got money involve . when see her , have Sex then give .

Yes I understand not to commit any relationship outside . Most of the time I eat fl and massage spa . Tho even sometime I had fling with 2 different thai ger ( not at hang flower place ) , we end it quite fast. .

Go hang flower also hang for fun . Just get ger down and play only . Very early part also go mask 51 very often but never have feeling for vb before . Maybe got but die offf very fast. Still noob and never go oversea play at that time

Then just last years start to go viet pub , sit wijt gers and go hotel like 2 time only. . Normally I go pub don’t really go hotel , just enjoy the beer and ger accompany .

But this ger I thought is also just another sex only , then Sex after sex , week after week. I get hook to her and now here I am having some type of feeling . Think it’s around maybe 9 mths of sex already.

Guess got to keep motivate myself not to have feeling for her. I would actually keep looking at my phone to see she would msg me or not. But sometime I am able to shake off that feeling then next week the cycle start again.

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How I wish 15 years back I am not so naive . Then go around play or even go till oversea play . Only last few year ago I manage to go thailand with group of brother and really actualy taste the oversea power .

Only one time and that’s it.

Might be also because i and my wife did not have sex for close to one year . Before that we have sex also because want to try for baby . I did not have the urge with her . Over the year when I go fl or massage is always just hj or bj. Only last year I start to actually have sex with working ger .

By the way the viet ger that I am with now is around 30+ already . Think the second time we have sex , we didi raw halfway , then after that it is always raw .

Actually I should not say now with. I don’t think I have win her heart yet. Maybe also because she cannot do sideline now so stick to me.
I just stated above, you found sex with this MILF enjoyable becos you had been deprived...

Your tryst is all money cash transaction....she will leave after her WP not renewed or she intends to quit...so you will be left out hanging dry...

You taking big risk here of doing RAW knowing she had more than one sex partner...during covid-19 also another big risk...

Having sex at her rental flats another risks...she could easily recorded and then blackmail you next time...

My advice is still same...play safe and be safe....sort out marriage...then clear head to proceed...

Harsh reality ...imagine if you dun have sex with wife then she may be having sex with other guy(s)...

OH btw, paying for sex to a viet gal 30+ yo is no longer desirable....

Borrow boss Sam point 4 . "Whores are for fucking not loving. Just fuck them and be done with it"
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Hi need some advice here


All the viet shifu please advice .
As you are married; just pay and fuck that is my advice to you as she will continue to look for Men who can actually support and marry her. If she had better offer from others men she will leave you too.
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Not sure what advice you want...

I may sound harsh but I will not hide my viewpoints here...so please accept my views here...

One sentence to describe your tryst now..."lack of sex leading to lust tryst"...hate to say you do not love her...you are just paying as a transaction to her to satisfy your lust...

Also she doesn't love you at all becos she is termed "working lady"...:

Sort out your marriage and then you can decide how you want to proceed...any wrong move and you can get into been a pauper...
Yes sometime I thinking is it lust. But then I do feel some heart pain when I thought is she is having other guy in her house .

Yes I read the in between page of this thread and know about the working lady . Guess I just got to keep drilling to my head she only making me feel good just to make me keep go find her .

Maybe I should emoply the tatic that if I find her hidden something from me and just ignore her for a week .

Think weather she having feeling for me or not is not important now, important thing is I need to keep telling myself not to fall further in
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I just stated above, you found sex with this MILF enjoyable becos you had been deprived...

Your tryst is all money cash transaction....she will leave after her WP not renewed or she intends to quit...so you will be left out hanging dry...

You taking big risk here of doing RAW knowing she had more than one sex partner...during covid-19 also another big risk...

Having sex at her rental flats another risks...she could easily recorded and then blackmail you next time...

My advice is still same...play safe and be safe....sort out marriage...then clear head to proceed...

Harsh reality ...imagine if you dun have sex with wife then she may be having sex with other guy(s)...

OH btw, paying for sex to a viet gal 30+ yo is no longer desirable....

Borrow boss Sam point 4 . "Whores are for fucking not loving. Just fuck them and be done with it"
Thank you for the above pointer . Yeah understand paying sex for 30 + no longer desirable . Ha but sometime 人就是犯贱。 before that I have sex with 20+ before and just F and Forget . But don’t know why chemistry with this 30 + lady is so strong . After reading all your reply , I feel much better and more in control of my thinking direction . Thank you again
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Yes sometime I thinking is it lust. But then I do feel some heart pain when I thought is she is having other guy in her house .

Yes I read the in between page of this thread and know about the working lady . Guess I just got to keep drilling to my head she only making me feel good just to make me keep go find her .

Maybe I should emoply the tatic that if I find her hidden something from me and just ignore her for a week .

Think weather she having feeling for me or not is not important now, important thing is I need to keep telling myself not to fall further in
Stop wasting your time; just pay for sex and move on. What tactics you wanna to employ? VB are more clever in terms of Strategy. If u need some sex pay and walk off. No need to talk abt love as you can't marry her and she will 100% leave you when she found someone who can give her more than you.
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As you are married; just pay and fuck that is my advice to you as she will continue to look for Men who can actually support and marry her. If she had better offer from others men she will leave you too.
Guess you are correct . Eventually she would want to find someone to marry her which I cannot give her . And the amount I give her also not a lot. She will have higher offer from other man .

From all these above , I should not hold high Hope from her to be my er nan. Guess for the time being just f and don’t heart to heart talk with her anymore . Don’t message her unnecessarily unless just date time to have sex.
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Stop wasting your time; just pay for sex and move on. What tactics you wanna to employ? VB are more clever in terms of Strategy. If u need some sex pay and walk off. No need to talk abt love as you can't marry her and she will 100% leave you when she found someone who can give her more than you.
Okie you are right . First part is to take remove my feeling for her . Let’s see after few week later i success or not . Just got to continue read the thread to remind myself . Thank again
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