Understanding Vietnamese Life Partner

[Golden question]

Originally Posted by elth

actually you remind me of some Vietnamese man also allow their gfs to go out with other man...

I know a gal have been working ktv or pub in vn and sg to support her family expenses...sometime in vn the bf will ride his gf to KS and wait for her to finish her job... so caring hor

Another gal bring her vn bf to come sg for 2 weeks...pay the hotel expenses and ticket for him... the man know his gal come sg to work KTV and go KS... but his logic is simple...the money she earn is for him to go oversea study...the poor gal due to cant find customer in KTV walk to LOR** to find cust and each time get paid less than $40 only... not including cd cost...

there is no right or wrong just up to each individuals

agreed,vietnamese man is useless,i encounter before,their society is like that.Like what u say there is no right or wrong but i will NEVER NEVER allow my love one to do that no matters how poor am i.

[vietboy]

Originally Posted by jklpoi

No la, no more ST or ON, only sit and chat. Matter of trust.

And my MIL is staying alone taking care of my BX 2 kids, and all her sons and daughter have their own family mah, so technically my BX is taking care of her mum cause her mum takes care of her 2 kids.

i am not going to pretend i am a expert on Vietnam but this is where she stay, maybe bros here can tell me whether the rent is worth SGD200. The district area is P6-Q4...i dont know is that the district number or house number. I just know where it is. around 10 min away from ben than market. (Mind my spelling mistake)

Correct me if i am wrong, with LTSVP, she cant work, can she?

Regarding my pay, this is where my trust for her come in. Last time, i drive big car, throw big money cause of my business, then casino come into my life and bring my downfall, lost all my asserts, went into jail for doing something illegal, on the verge of bankrupt and she still stand by me. She witness my highest point and my lowest point in life where basically i live like a dog, and she never even think of leaving me. So now i have a stable job, quit my gambling, and i still got debts to pay, thats why 4k+ is not enough for me.

yes, for LTSVP holders are not allowed to work. But that doesnt mean she cant look for a decent job and apply for a Work Permit. She can still convert her LTSVP to WP.

Coming back to your wife working as a WL. Come on lah, u really dun mind yur wife working as a WL? Let other guys hug, kiss and TNN? Let me ask u this: if one day u meet up with some of the bros in this forum and one of them tell u: "yur wife working at XXX ktv/pub and i sat with her before" how will u feel??

u mentioned $4k+ is not enough for u and u take $$ from yur wife, but u still goes to KTV and hug other girls. Your wife is working as a WL and u still go find WL when she is working. She work as a WL to give u $$ for u to go KTV! Like bro elth said, u r behaving and thinking just like those useless vietnamese guys who live off their gfs. I think its not that u can put things down easliy, its that u simply bo chap and quite enjoy about it!. Seriously, i have no respect for people like u! PUI!!

[asdfghjkl]

Originally Posted by Golden question

NEVER allow my love one to do that no matters how poor

what if one has no money or work, and in a warzone? rather stave to death? sorry to be so direct as i have seen with my own eyes how people are forced into prostitution..

[vietboy]

Originally Posted by Golden question

agreed,vietnamese man is useless,i encounter before,their society is like that.Like what u say there is no right or wrong but i will NEVER NEVER allow my love one to do that no matters how poor am i.

Same here. No matter how poor, how down, I'll never let my wife go work as a WL. I'm not saying I'm very noble, I'll rather I suffer myself than let her suffer with me. If I still let her suffer after marry me, then I'm selfish, why marry her and let her suffer because of my own actions and wrongdoings?

[Golden question]

Originally Posted by asdfghjkl

what if one has no money or work, and in a warzone? rather stave to death?

no,i will kill myself,starve to death is a toture for me,got hill,i jump down from hill,got sea,i jump down.

[Golden question]

Originally Posted by asdfghjkl

what if one has no money or work, and in a warzone? rather stave to death? sorry to be so direct as i have seen with my own eyes how people are forced into prostitution..

yes,it happen around the world,but will never happen to me.NO WAY

[vietboy]

Originally Posted by Golden question

no,i will kill myself,starve to death is a toture for me,got hill,i jump down from hill,got sea,i jump down.

haha, good one bro.

[Golden question]

Originally Posted by vietboy

Same here. No matter how poor, how down, I'll never let my wife go work as a WL. I'm not saying I'm very noble, I'll rather I suffer myself than let her suffer with me. If I still let her suffer after marry me, then I'm selfish, why marry her and let her suffer because of my own actions and wrongdoings?

Agreed,ask me work until die i also will do,at least when i lie inside my coffin,i know i have protect her before.Ask me go beg,wash toliet,polish shoe,i will also do.

I also not say i very noble but the least thing i can do is what a husband or a man must do if force until 'no road can walk'

[asdfghjkl]

Just sharing a poem that I read in Mexico.. they had been wiped out too many times.. I fear for my life as Merkel just agreed to Ctrl-P..

A prostitute in the family was better than an infant corpse
Theft was preferable to starvation
Warmth was finer than honour
Clothing more essential than democracy
Food more needed than freedom.

[vietboy]

Originally Posted by Golden question

Agreed,ask me work until die i also will do,at least when i lie inside my coffin,i know i have protect her before.Ask me go beg,wash toliet,polish shoe,i will also do.

I also not say i very noble but the least thing i can do is what a husband or a man must do if force until 'no road can walk'

yes agreed. if i let my wife suffer, i'm not fulfilling my role as a husband. like this why marry in the 1st place?

[jklpoi]

Its obvious you guys have not suffer giddy heights of wealth and then suddenly dropping into abyss of poverty. Poverty as in pocket dont even have a single cent and no one to help you and fucking slp underneath the bridge with a cardboard blanket. and no job cause cannot find one. Then you will understand. to all those bro who have really experienced real poverty, not those fake one like so many pple here in Singapore.

You will understand me. and why I have a different view of the world and love.

as long as no real sex is taking place, and no frenching, no harm in touching breast, leg and light kissing. Its good money for every touch.

And my wife is not supporting me. I am still paying for my flat, my car on top of my debts. Its the extra money that goes into our saving acct every month.

[casannova03]

Originally Posted by jklpoi

No la, no more ST or ON, only sit and chat. Matter of trust.

And my MIL is staying alone taking care of my BX 2 kids, and all her sons and daughter have their own family mah, so technically my BX is taking care of her mum cause her mum takes care of her 2 kids.

i am not going to pretend i am a expert on Vietnam but this is where she stay, maybe bros here can tell me whether the rent is worth SGD200. The district area is P6-Q4...i dont know is that the district number or house number. I just know where it is. around 10 min away from ben than market. (Mind my spelling mistake)

Correct me if i am wrong, with LTSVP, she cant work, can she?

Regarding my pay, this is where my trust for her come in. Last time, i drive big car, throw big money cause of my business, then casino come into my life and bring my downfall, lost all my asserts, went into jail for doing something illegal, on the verge of bankrupt and she still stand by me. She witness my highest point and my lowest point in life where basically i live like a dog, and she never even think of leaving me. So now i have a stable job, quit my gambling, and i still got debts to pay, thats why 4k+ is not enough for me.

Like I said earlier, nobody knows what you have been through and what you and your bx have been through, thus the many views and comments.

At the end of he day, just know what you are doing and what you are getting yourself into...that's most important!

If she is holding on to a LTSVP, even without the latest LTSVP(+), she is allowed to be employed by a Singapore registered company who is willing to apply for a work permit for her.

Once the work permit is approved, she will be here on a work permit under the company and the LTSVP will be cancelled. Typically a LTSVP holder will be given a 2 year work permit.

As to whether the LTSVP can be reapplied if she lose her job or whether it is hard to get it again, I am not sure.

Hope this helps u!

[Hurricane88]

Originally Posted by jklpoi

Its obvious you guys have not suffer giddy heights of wealth and then suddenly dropping into abyss of poverty. Poverty as in pocket dont even have a single cent and no one to help you and fucking slp underneath the bridge with a cardboard blanket. and no job cause cannot find one. Then you will understand. to all those bro who have really experienced real poverty, not those fake one like so many pple here in Singapore.

You will understand me. and why I have a different view of the world and love.

as long as no real sex is taking place, and no frenching, no harm in touching breast, leg and light kissing. Its good money for every touch.

And my wife is not supporting me. I am still paying for my flat, my car on top of my debts. Its the extra money that goes into our saving acct every month.

i fully understand the feeling of having no money at all...nobody to help...and no one to turn to...anyway asked yourself who did all those things to you when you had money and throwing them away...did the casino came with a gun to force you to gambled away your money...answer is simple "NO"...you self inflicted and cried wolf...

you think your baxa now dun know what you are doing...what did you treat her as...just a money spinning machine...did she owe you anything...to think that you dun mind her working and sleeping around if any client will to make and indecent proposal...anyway I believe in karma...someday only time will tell...I despise ppl who treat baxa as a means for money...

anyway the above is my opinion...

[casannova03]

Originally Posted by vietboy

Same here. No matter how poor, how down, I'll never let my wife go work as a WL. I'm not saying I'm very noble, I'll rather I suffer myself than let her suffer with me. If I still let her suffer after marry me, then I'm selfish, why marry her and let her suffer because of my own actions and wrongdoings?

Originally Posted by Golden question

no,i will kill myself,starve to death is a toture for me,got hill,i jump down from hill,got sea,i jump down.

Originally Posted by vietboy

yes agreed. if i let my wife suffer, i'm not fulfilling my role as a husband. like this why marry in the 1st place?

Originally Posted by jklpoi

Its obvious you guys have not suffer giddy heights of wealth and then suddenly dropping into abyss of poverty. Poverty as in pocket dont even have a single cent and no one to help you and fucking slp underneath the bridge with a cardboard blanket. and no job cause cannot find one. Then you will understand. to all those bro who have really experienced real poverty, not those fake one like so many pple here in Singapore.

You will understand me. and why I have a different view of the world and love.

as long as no real sex is taking place, and no frenching, no harm in touching breast, leg and light kissing. Its good money for every touch.

And my wife is not supporting me. I am still paying for my flat, my car on top of my debts. Its the extra money that goes into our saving acct every month.

Bros, chill it!!

Nobody is right or wrong here...

I kinda understand where jklpoi is coming from...maybe like they wanna settle their debts asap and then settle down properly after all these problems are finished. Well, that's their choice....

Thinking back when I was still in NS, I was indeed broke and living off the $$ from my then Gf now my wife. Bros who know my story should remember this... As much as I do not want to allow my then GF to work, I do not have a choice as I was a NSF and do not have the money to meet my wife's objective which was to build a house that cost around $30K. Like bro vietboy and golden question, my pride and ego kept bothering me so I took up tuition teaching and then finally met someone who was willing to lend me the money and eventually my wife stopped work and we got married......

we do not know jklpoi's situation and thus he may have his reasons for doing so. Perhaps the only niggling issue is that he knowingly allows this to happen and that he is earning quite a tidy amount of money every month and it seems to baffle us...nevertheless, we do not know the amount of debt he has and how "deep" he really is...so let's give him some breathing space yeah? at the end of the day, he might be telling us this because he wanna see how we can help him no?

I am no angel definitely but I believe that behind everyone, there is a story which we do not know so we should give everyone some benefit of the doubt before we judge him/her.

Here's a story I saw today on Facebook which happens to apply here:

A 24 year old boy seeing out from the train's window shouted...

"Dad, look! the trees are going behind!" Dad smiled. A young couple sitting nearby looked at the 24 years old's childish behaviour with pity. Suddenly the boy again exclaimed "Dad,look! The clouds are running with us!"

At this point the young couple could not resist and said to the old man.." Why dun you take your son to a good doctor? " (thinking that the boy needs special treatment for being so childish at his age, maybe due to some growth problems or mental problems???)

The old man smiled and said..." I did, and we just came from the hospital... my son was blind from birth and he just got his eyes and his sight today...."

Moral of the story? :

Everyone on this planet has a story
Let's not judge people before we truly know them. The truth might sometimes surprise us!


Again I emphasize that I am no preacher or angel but sometimes I like to give people a bit more time and space before I decide on him/her.

Nevertheless, JKLPOI! You have to know what the both of you are working towards. there needs to be an objective, an end in mind. If there isn't, then it seems that you are not very concerned about your wife which is what your limited number of posts have reflected so far, thus the disappointment from other bros here.

If you have a game plan already, then what we say here does not really matter.... will be interested to hear your side of the story though...maybe you can start a thread to tell us all about it???

[zion1989]

Originally Posted by jklpoi

No la, no more ST or ON, only sit and chat. Matter of trust.

And my MIL is staying alone taking care of my BX 2 kids, and all her sons and daughter have their own family mah, so technically my BX is taking care of her mum cause her mum takes care of her 2 kids.

i am not going to pretend i am a expert on Vietnam but this is where she stay, maybe bros here can tell me whether the rent is worth SGD200. The district area is P6-Q4...i dont know is that the district number or house number. I just know where it is. around 10 min away from ben than market. (Mind my spelling mistake)

Correct me if i am wrong, with LTSVP, she cant work, can she?

Regarding my pay, this is where my trust for her come in. Last time, i drive big car, throw big money cause of my business, then casino come into my life and bring my downfall, lost all my asserts, went into jail for doing something illegal, on the verge of bankrupt and she still stand by me. She witness my highest point and my lowest point in life where basically i live like a dog, and she never even think of leaving me. So now i have a stable job, quit my gambling, and i still got debts to pay, thats why 4k+ is not enough for me.

U mean the kids your BX has is from previous marriage ? What you BX really live a complicated life . I agree with some of the bros here, never depend on your wife for a living. You are a man, if my viet girl willing to stop working as a WL. I don't mind every month send money back to her, sometime we still have to fulfill the responsibility as a man