Understanding Vietnamese Life Partner

[Hurricane88]

Originally Posted by naemlo

Ya, we are dismissive and arrogant.... it will be wise for u to take care of him.

Here we go again, same old shit again.

Actually I dun want to reply becos nothing new...after so many years in Vietnam the culture had not changed...just like now all the HCM gals are hoping to land a prized ipHone X worth 40 mil or more as supply is low....

Was specifically requested to reply and one more nick wrote a long pm to me...I had my fair share of success in helping a few bros to see the real picture when dealing with WL...

You live in Hanoi, hcm, PP, Bkk, etc...and your experiences very valuable dealing with WL...

Not keen to get into any argument...totally waste of time...

[naemlo]

Originally Posted by Hurricane88

Not keen to get into any argument...totally waste of time...

Been in the forum for so many years to understand these shit ppl.

Once in awhile, u will see "hero" comes in bark a bit then goes hiding. Another type is when he needs info, he will bark for it then disappear again. No point arguing with them, let them win. This is virtual world, win or lose dun gain anything. Barking does make him stupid. Frankly, this forum makes me learnt a lot, esp SG men.

[duckking]

Agreed! I also learnt a lot! My favourite post in this thread is this one!

Originally Posted by Balls To You

Wow, another excellent 1 liner from the great Mr I know It all, I have done it all, I have seen it all. Reminds me of the PAP, anything they don't like hear or talk about, just give some excuse and casually brush it away and pretend nothing has happened.

There is no need for any support. I am not here to "win" you. Not everything is a competition, contrary to what you think. I'm just here to state what I think and share with everyone what I saw, I did not make anything up. Surely I have this right?? What the mature readers here get out of this is entirely up to them. They already have their opinions of you and me and that's pretty much the end of the story.

Maybe I will get more then 1 line and hopefully some points from you if I say what you constantly need to hear??

You are one of the greatest chiongster in SBF history. You have fuck your way around the world. Some say you are the best in SG, KL, JKT, BKK, HCMC. Girls fall in love with you whenever they come in contact with your irresistible charm. You know every gal in JC, GL or whatever place you go to. Give you a name and you will know who she is. If she is pretty you would already have up her years ago. Guys like us can only pick up your leftovers. You can drink the most without getting drunk. Any gal problems just ask you. You have seen it all, you know how everybody thinks and know how everything works.

Enough for you?? Or you need more?? Just say word!! I will do anything for points.

Thanks for not zapping me for speaking my mind!! Ok then, do continue sharing porn for the benefits of us horny bros here.

Also thanks for the points. You know who you are!! I don't mind to be the one to say things which other people don't want to hear.

Basically, what happened was this 'Ballstoyou' fucked Naemlo upside down. Literally. And Naemlo had no reply because he could not match Ballstoyou's eloquency. Could not at all. Its a classic case of a bully (naemlo) getting bullied!

You guys have time go back read - page 348-350. Its really hilarious!

ok I go back to page 390 and continue. You guys continue here! See ya!

[Tai_zi21]

Originally Posted by okcis

Bros don’t get me wrong. I do understand where you guys are coming from. If not I wouldn’t post here asking for advice. I just want to know if there are any stories of similar situation and setting. So that I can watch out for the lies.

Thank you for taking the time to reply.

Since I am sitting alone in the mrt and nothing to do let me reply you

My first question what do u love about her? Character? Take gd care of you? Wife material for you to marry? Sex was wonderful? Nice figure? Pretty?

Let me share with u my own experiences... went to this viet ktv as usual saw this very pretty gal... Try wooing her and after 2 visit I get to bonk her without her asking for money.. I dun look like Andy Lau or have not much money Hor... lol but of cos like I always mention no free sex in the world... of cos I buy her gifts from time to time... do I love her? Of cos no... but do I enjoy having sex with her? Yes for sure... understand the meaning of love and lust...

Remember for every pretty gal you see... there is another more pretty gal waiting for u... u r still 24 still young to see the world... ask urself what can u give her? U think given love and bread which 1 will they choose?

Like I always say ppl dun come here for advise... ppl come here to listen to what they Wan... one of the senior in sbf tell me de

The choices is yours... I shall rest my case here

Cheers

[Hurricane88]

Originally Posted by Tai_zi21

Remember for every pretty gal you see... there is another more pretty gal waiting for u... u r still 24 still young to see the world... ask urself what can u give her? U think given love and bread which 1 will they choose?

Like I always say ppl dun come here for advise... ppl come here to listen to what they Wan... one of the senior in sbf tell me de

The choices is yours... I shall rest my case here

Cheers

You have the abundance mindset and always have more better gals waiting....bro, you can play this WL game...

I agreed with you that samsters come here to read what they hope to hear...as if there will be xmas every month...no, i dun buy that...my response for WL had been consistent after so many years...can always seacrh for my posts in this thread...

Here we have to differentiate WL with non-WL...I had said enough of WL because they are here to suck money...

Let me tell a story...almost 3 years ago, a samster consulted me about WL...I was very negative and he was naive...whatever I advised he refused to listen...within 3 months the r/s broke after he found out all her lies...I did guide him how to find out the truth and exposed lies...

After that he saw light but went back to Vietnam for last trip...there he found a non-WL and within 1 year they were happily married with a bouncing baby a year later...there is hope and he admitted to me that he was stubborn and naive at first...appreciated all the guidance and we were close friends now...&&

[ahpiao]

You guys are really antique and old fashion...

Now the latest trend is date and marry whore u fuck..

Originally Posted by naemlo

I have to salute u, maybe my male ego is high... a ger whom u have intention to marry, u still allow her to be fondled by dirty old men like me.

Originally Posted by Tai_zi21

went to this viet ktv as usual saw this very pretty gal... Try wooing her and after 2 visit I get to bonk her without her asking for money.. I dun look like Andy Lau or have not much money Hor... lol but of cos like I always mention no free sex in the world... of cos I buy her gifts from time to time... do I love her? Of cos no... but do I enjoy having sex with her? Yes for sure... understand the meaning of love and lust...

Originally Posted by Hurricane88

Here we have to differentiate WL with non-WL...

[Tai_zi21]

Originally Posted by ahpiao

You guys are really antique and old fashion...

Now the latest trend is date and marry whore u fuck..

Well antique and old fashion can still save u some money why not?

At least I dun need worry if any gals is seeing any guys behind me...

Cheers

[FireShark]

Originally Posted by Satki5

Bros I need help and advice from all the SEASONED samsters.
Hi bros. I got a problem with a Vb. Ok, the story goes like this. I know her from a ktv and the 2 months she was here, she said that i was the second man that she had sex with. Subsequently after she goes back to vietnam, I went to look for her 2 times and had the regular bonking and meals etc. After the 2nd trip, she totally cut all ties such as delete the WeChat and block me totally. She is a 20 yr girl while I am in my mid thirties. After asking from my friend to find out the reason for the sudden change in attitude, I realise she said that I did not help her in terms of giving her money as she said that she do not work in Vietnam and needs money to survive. As a typical Singaporean, time is the most important thing we can give to our gf so I think by visiting her monthly is the best gift I can give to her. There are plans to marry her but now. Haizzzzz...... Where did the r/s go wrong? Despite numerous attempts to give her money this and that now, she is sibei heartless and refuse to have any contact with me now. What should I do? How can I get her back? My heart aches so much whenever I think of her.

Don't waste your time on her anymore. VB tend to be greedy.

Originally Posted by Satki5

$3k-$5k is too much. I do not earn as much as the bros here do. I am just an average working class Singapore man.

Not everyone here earn much too. There are still many others flowers you can pick; why waste time on such vb.

Originally Posted by okcis

Hi all, can someone help me out. Based on past experiences, is it possible for my bx to still cheat on me even though I see her everyday? Also how many times can she enter singapore ?

Originally Posted by okcis

I am sorry if my post somehow offend anyone here. I am genuinely asking for help. I understand where you guys are coming from. I have been reading the past entries on this forum and I have seen many bad experiences with WL. But I just want to know if there are cases where their bx have brought them to see the parents. I may seem stupid for asking such questions here but right now, I really really can't see any "holes" and the family treat me well too. I'm sorry if there are any similar stories been posted here before, I may have missed them.

Can these WL acting skills be really that good? Or do the parents usually help in acting with their daughter? They seemed genuine when talking about marriage. And is it possible I am not the only guy she brings back home? I guess I need more reasons (and probably any similar real life experiences from bros here) to help convince myself to get me out of this trap.

I went to visit her in Vietnam and she came back with me a week ago. Thus, have to go back to working as a WL. During the time when she was in Vietnam, we video call each other every day. And when I visited her, she was together with me for the whole week. Is there any possibility that she may have another boyfriend and yet was still able to stay with me everyday when I was there?

I am 24 this year and of course, I don't intend to marry her right now yet. Thank you bros for taking the time to reply me. I am sorry again if it offends you guys in any way.

All older Samster like Naemlo & H88 had tried to give you simple advice but if u continue to ask; they will give u sarcastic advice so that you can't take it. This sarcastic advice wanted you to wake up your ideas. You are only 24 this year and yet seen the world of Vietnam yet. There are good and bad vb but chances of bad is very high. Like everyone said; many need $$$ to help their family. Like me; i had meet many different vb. 2 of them even willing to give me thousand of dollars when I in need. You should know life in VN is not as good as Spore. They hoped that they could come to Spore & had a better life. I had shared many real story before about good VB; but bad vb stories tend to be more cos good story pple tend not to share. You are still young; you got to think more far. You will not be able to support her after your marriage. She will work. If she dun mind work in Hawker or food court or maybe she is good in manicure; yes you can consider her. But if she intend to work in KTV or beer promoter; you can forget abt it. 9 out of 10 who return to KTV end up in divorce. 2 of my friends married vb recently; 1 went to manicure; and the other help her father in law sell food in the market.

Last week; I went to Taman Johor Jeya food court; saw 2 vb working with their husband selling food there. As I can speak vnese; I talk to them in vnese. Know that they had married for few years and had been helping their husband selling food. Get a wife who can suffer together with you

[okcis]

To bro duckking, thank you for understanding my concern as to why I am posting my enquiry here.

To bro Hurricane88 and naemlo, firstly I want to make things clear that I am not bro duckking and definitely not posting from a new account created by bro duckking or any of that sort. I have only read up to year 2008 of this thread so I am not even aware of the presence of his account here. You all may have met some of other samsters doing this, but I don't think it's nice to make a false assumption of us. I don't think it's fair for bro duckking to be wronged like this.

Even though I am not done with reading the entire thread, I know both of you are the seniors here. Other than TS bro SingViet, I actually respect both of you a lot for contributing so much and provided a lot of advice in this thread. In fact, I was glad to receive replies from both of you when I first posted here because I know how experienced both of you are and I was relieved to know that both of you are still active in this forum.

But I did not expect to be misunderstood. I did mention that I am new in this chionging scene, so I genuinely needed advice. I don't know (yet) what sort of unhappiness has been caused in this thread over the past years. But I hope you guys remember from the earlier part of the thread, that there are still newbies like me around. And it's not that I choose to walk into this trap. Just like any other bros here who have been caught in this once, we are all blinded by love unknowingly and not by choice. It's not that we refuse to listen to the advice, I'm sure most of us do but we can't absorb it in just yet. And that also doesn't mean we do not accept the kind advice given. For myself, my mind is aware that probably 98% of WL are up to no good but I feel that I need more to be convinced, to be more clear minded.

I have mentioned that I see no loopholes in my girl yet. But that doesn't mean that I insist that you guys are wrong about her and I honestly have never thought so. I believe I have been misunderstood here. It may seems like I am defending her but no. I am just stating the context and asking if there are any stories/experiences that have the exact same context or 'plot'. I know there are countless stories shared here and mostly are similar but I have yet (as of now) to read one that has the same as what I am experiencing. I also really hope that I can get out of this asap, but we all should know that it is easier said than done when we are too blinded by love. And for my character, I am one that has to expose her lies before I can walk away. I know there is no need for this so I admit this is a bad point of mine.

Perhaps both bros have met a few other samsters from the past years who did not appreciate the advice given. But I hope you know there are still people who came here genuinely asking for help and are truly appreciative of any help provided. If I don't agree with most of the advice given here, I wouldn't have bothered reading every single page from Page 1, and I wouldn't still be here asking for advice. It's because I trust the experiences of the seniors here, that's why I really hope to get some help here.

I hope that no offence is taken from this post. These are just my true thoughts and opinions. I'm still grateful for the advice given to me by Hurricane88 & naemlo in the first couple of posts. Also thank you to bro Th4r, Tai_zi21 and FireShark for your replies. Sorry that my presence here has created some unhappiness. I will continue with reading the posts and hopefully will wake up in time to get out of this trap.

Cheers.

[Th4r]

Originally Posted by okcis

I don't really chiong in this scene, probably that's why I'm considered new to be exposed to all these and need to read on other bros' experiences. I meet her everyday after her work and will be with her till the morning. Are there any similar experiences like this? It would really help to convince me that there are still ways for her to mess around behind my back. Because right now, from what I see is that she doesn't go hotel with any other guys since I see her everyday.

Or maybe can bro enlighten me on their standard routines? What time do they usually knock off? Are they allowed to leave work earlier and go other places? I'm hoping she doesn't do so and pretend to be at work and only meeting me after that. I'm really new to this chionging scene and I have not seen much. So I don't know the "rules" for these girls in these KTV places.

Hope I don't offend anyone in this thread. Coming from someone who is really new to this, I genuinely want to get some advice and help....

You're 24 ... dude, don't waste your life spending EVERY night with her just so you can be sure she don't cheat. Seriously, of course no one here trust her, we don't know her (plus she's "working").

But if you have to ask, seems you're somewhat doubtful too. Go spend more time on your work and friends. If she deserve your trust, let her earn it ... though most WL don't give a shit about earning trust, don't even think they really know they have to earn it.

Again, she's making her living, bloody go make your's, or make it better

[FireShark]

Originally Posted by okcis

I have mentioned that I see no loopholes in my girl yet. But that doesn't mean that I insist that you guys are wrong about her and I honestly have never thought so. I believe I have been misunderstood here. It may seems like I am defending her but no. I am just stating the context and asking if there are any stories/experiences that have the exact same context or 'plot'. I know there are countless stories shared here and mostly are similar but I have yet (as of now) to read one that has the same as what I am experiencing. I also really hope that I can get out of this asap, but we all should know that it is easier said than done when we are too blinded by love. And for my character, I am one that has to expose her lies before I can walk away. I know there is no need for this so I admit this is a bad point of mine.

I hope that no offence is taken from this post. These are just my true thoughts and opinions. I'm still grateful for the advice given to me by Hurricane88 & naemlo in the first couple of posts. Also thank you to bro Th4r, Tai_zi21 and FireShark for your replies. Sorry that my presence here has created some unhappiness. I will continue with reading the posts and hopefully will wake up in time to get out of this trap.

Cheers.

You didn't create unhappiness here. They just wanted to wake up your idea. You wont know how well some VB can plan. They can plan until so well without loophole for you to catch. Those were past senior experience sharing to newbie chionging now. Like I said there are good & bad vb but many vb are easily influence by their frds & also pressure from family. Just chiong with care

[neutron]

Originally Posted by okcis

To bro duckking, thank you for understanding my concern as to why I am posting my enquiry here.

I have mentioned that I see no loopholes in my girl yet. But that doesn't mean that I insist that you guys are wrong about her and I honestly have never thought so. I believe I have been misunderstood here. It may seems like I am defending her but no. I am just stating the context and asking if there are any stories/experiences that have the exact same context or 'plot'. I know there are countless stories shared here and mostly are similar but I have yet (as of now) to read one that has the same as what I am experiencing. I also really hope that I can get out of this asap, but we all should know that it is easier said than done when we are too blinded by love. And for my character, I am one that has to expose her lies before I can walk away. I know there is no need for this so I admit this is a bad point of mine.

Just like you, met a girl in KTV 4 years ago. Also around mid 20s. Paid her only the first time then brought her out for supper the next day. Subsequently, she accompany me every night in my house after work for free, sacrificing her lost of income by not going to hotel with any customer. Her friend also kept complaining she is stupid by wasting her time in SG. Confused with her action, I again like you, stereotype of KTV girl at first but heart gradually soften. Overtime, you will slowly think maybe this can work out.

After her 30 days visa up, she return to vn and I went to visit her. She brought me to her hometown and intro family and friends making me feel like she is very serious with me. She help her parents to run a eating house which i thought was decent. The R/S went on for almost a year until 1 day I caught her having another BF and since then never contact her. She flooded my phone with message and call with apologies but I decided a clean break. Similar to the rest, in between have family problem such as brother gambling problem la bla bla. Fortunately, I got out the situation without committing much time and $.

Based on your post, you are judging them based on your upbringing and culture which is very different over there. Dont bother overthinking why they do this and that unless you know their culture well. Now they like you, everything also can. Like many have already advised, these girls are different. Their value system is screwed. If you like vietnamese, go meet some decent girls over there and you will understand the differences.

[duckking]

Im now at page 976. This thread is long.....really long.

I would like to ask bro hurricane88 some (personal) questions here. Dont know whether he mind or not....?

[duckking]

Why bro hurricane88 no reply me ??

Angry ? So petty ? So easy to get on his nerves ?

Im younger than you...need to be so petty ? I read all your posts, at least in this thread. I'm really curious as to what you do.

1) What are you doing in Vietnam ? What do you do ? Pleasure or work or business ? And if business, what kind of business ?

2) Do you (have you ever) charge/earn any money from any brothers in SBF for any kind of services rendered ?

If you PM me reply I will keep it there. If you don't want to reply, its fine. Thanks anyway.

[Hurricane88]

Originally Posted by 55055

He is in sg, a retiree, who got no life besides Vietnam and SBF. He used to be a sex tour agent in Vietnam. Go to international field report thread, and look for HCM threads. Right now the current thread were opened by fireshark, his thread has been closed by him for whatever reasons. Before this nobody allows to post lengthy FR about Vietnam. He also won’t give infos on where to chiong, reason the local police will clamp down the place should it be in this forum. He dictates the HCM thread, making nobody dare to post about chionging place, if you against him, your points will drop to negative red. He got numerous clones FYI.

What a belligerent person...

after 2 years you still so upset with me banning your original nick...go ahead to spew rubbish info in the forum becos all these will not hurt me...

am glad that Best of Thailand is out of here which you are one of the biggest culprit for the big war zone with all your lies and clones...so how many newbies you had scam so far...

glad never know you in person...trying to use your clones to chat with me ha?...