Understanding Vietnamese Life Partner

[Hurricane88]

Originally Posted by V|ernar

amazing how they can gamble from day to night , dont go work also can .

start from a 2 dollar ( warm up ) to 1000 dollar per bet on those no skill game ... 3 kings .

those lose money one start to call their honey , lover , sugar daddy , so call husband for money .

instant delivery to house .. 20 vb can have close to 250k on the table at the end of the night .

if you want to find a wife material .. let them gamble first and you watch from behind . simi thought also will gone with the wind

I hated the most VB who gamble...will say bye bye the moment I knew...

[SingViet]

Originally Posted by Hurricane88

I hated the most VB who gamble...will say bye bye the moment I knew...

There are lots of cases of Viet Spouse going back to their village for TET or other occasions. Called back to Singapore husband a week later to ask for $5k USD or more, say gambled and lost. When questioned, will say its only 20K VND each game, but don't know how it come up to US$5k after a few days.

[decent02]

Nowadays they use ipad got live betting
after 1st half EPL, can see them exchanging money
not 100K hor
few 500K notes changing hands

[Hurricane88]

Originally Posted by SingViet

There are lots of cases of Viet Spouse going back to their village for TET or other occasions. Called back to Singapore husband a week later to ask for $5k USD or more, say gambled and lost. When questioned, will say its only 20K VND each game, but don't know how it come up to US$5k after a few days.

Yup agreed...no more going to Vn during TET...all keen to gamble and drink stupor...wait till TET finish then I go...hehe...

Originally Posted by decent02

Nowadays they use ipad got live betting
after 1st half EPL, can see them exchanging money
not 100K hor
few 500K notes changing hands

haha...Vietnamese biggest illegal punters for EPL games...so no surprised...world cup cuming next year more to gamble...only bookies smiling counting money...

[Hurricane88]

Let me re-post this story again...because it seems many samsters dun understand this is serious offence...

http://sbfsg.agency/showpos...postcount=5531

I just had a discussion with a samster fren who will be attending a marriage wedding held at Dong Nai about 3 hours from HCM...problem is his fren already married in Singapore with 2 kids...

my advice to samster fren...dun attend the wedding because he can be state witness during prosecution if any whistle blower...if he attended and dun report the incident, he can be jailed for knowingly assisted a fren into bigamy...in this incident, either case he is in deep shit...so dun attend is the best to get out...worst is no more fren with this guy who gets into bigamy...this is typical small head ruled the big head because the viet gal is a former WL and now pregnant...

[MIFAcafe]

Originally Posted by SingViet

There are lots of cases of Viet Spouse going back to their village for TET or other occasions. Called back to Singapore husband a week later to ask for $5k USD or more, say gambled and lost. When questioned, will say its only 20K VND each game, but don't know how it come up to US$5k after a few days.

Funny hor, only those whom have foreigner as hubby are the one the lost the most.

Those lazy bone whom lay around doing nothing always win.

[KangTuo]

Originally Posted by Hurricane88

Yup agreed...no more going to Vn during TET...all keen to gamble and drink stupor...wait till TET finish then I go...hehe...

If per plan, this time round i ahould be going to vn for TET.
But now with my boy boy, my bx say it is better to spend TET in silypore as can collect back ang bao money

Going to vn only give alot more money then what can be collected back...

[KangTuo]

Originally Posted by MIFAcafe

Those lazy bone whom lay around doing nothing always win.

Always win yet no money

[MIFAcafe]

Originally Posted by SingViet

There are lots of cases of Viet Spouse going back to their village for TET or other occasions. Called back to Singapore husband a week later to ask for $5k USD or more, say gambled and lost. When questioned, will say its only 20K VND each game, but don't know how it come up to US$5k after a few days.

Thank you Singviet for such a nice thread. I am now at pages 285 and I already knew what to expect from VB.

Priceless information.

[decent02]

news from EDMW ... enjoy

Dumped by pregnant foreign bride via phone

by Crystal Chan

HE thought he had found love after spending 10 years in search of a bride through matchmaking agencies.

Even when he learnt that the Vietnamese woman he chose to marry probably harboured feelings for an ex-lover, he continued to love her.

When Mr David Quek, 39, a facilities manager, learnt his Vietnamese wife, Madam Kim Vui, 21, was pregnant, he looked forward to starting a family.

But now, Mr Quek is in a quandary.

His wife has returned to Ho Chi Minh City and is refusing to return.

And not only has he probably lost his wife and unborn child, but he can't move on as it will be difficult for him to file for divorce.

Mr Quek said he got to know Madam Kim in mid-April through Vietnam Brides International, a matchmaking agency in Orchard Plaza.

'When I met Kim Vui, I thought she looked sweet and simple,' said Mr Quek.

She was nothing like some of the materialistic local women he had met through other dating agencies.

They went on dinner dates a few times a week and Mr Quek was happy enough to take her home to meet his mother. His father died several years ago.

The couple got married on 14 Jun. But their marital bliss was short-lived.

Two weeks after they tied the knot, Mr Quek got an angry phone call from a man who claimed to be the husband of Madam Kim's friend.

He told Mr Quek that Madam Kim had a 'husband' in Ho Chi Minh City and that the other man had asked Madam Kim's friend to get her to return to him.

Shocked, Mr Quek confronted his wife. Madam Kim denied that she was married, but admitted that the 'husband' was actually her former lover. She said they were no longer together.

Feeling cheated, Mr Quek took his wife back to the matchmaking agency on 29 Jun and demanded an explanation from its boss, Mr Mark Lin.

He said: 'I was angry as my wife would be a bigamist if she was really married in Vietnam. I called Mark and scolded him for hiding my wife's complicated background from me.'

Mr Lin denied deceiving Mr Quek, who had agreed to pay $7,000 in five instalments to have his marriage with Madam Kim arranged.

He said: 'I trust the girls to be honest but if they want to lie, there's nothing I can do.'

He also told Mr Quek that he should accept his wife's past if he really loved her.

Mr Quek patched things up with his wife but two days later, she told him her parents wanted her to return to Ho Chi Minh City to attend to some family matters.

So on 2 Jul, they flew to Ho Chi Minh City to visit her parents.

They were supposed to return to Singapore on 5 Jul, but Madam Kim said she wanted to stay with her parents for a few more days, promising to return on 25 Jul.

Mr Quek, who returned to Singapore on his own, said he did not think anything was wrong then.

He said: 'I thought she was homesick and I thought she'd be happy if she could spend more time with her family.'

Mr Quek described his wife as a simple woman who never asked him for money or shopped extravagantly.

He said his wife called him every day to ask after him and to tell him she was fine.

Then last Sunday, Madam Kim called to say she did not want to return to him.

Mr Quek said: 'I was shocked. I told her, 'Please don't joke about such things.' I asked if she was unwell but she just wouldn't tell me why she wanted to stay in Vietnam.'

Mr Quek believes his wife's ex-lover could be behind her decision to leave him.

Showing us his handphone, he said: 'After I returned to Singapore, I received text messages in a mixture of Vietnamese and English, telling me to stay away from my wife.'

The New Paper on Sunday was able to contact Madam Kim, who confirmed Mr Quek's worst fear.

Speaking through her Mandarin-speaking Vietnamese friend, Miss Julie Tan, 22, Madam Kim said she had come to Singapore to try to forget her ex.

Miss Tan said: 'But after the marriage, she realised she couldn't forget her ex even though Mr Quek is good to her.'

Mr Quek then tried to get the Singapore consulate in Ho Chi Minh City to help convince his wife to come back, but she was adamant about staying.

When asked what he plans to do now, Mr Quek said he would take time to consider his options.

Uncertain about future

He sighed: 'Whether I divorce her or not, I don't know if I'll get to see my child.

'I guess I'm just suay (Hokkien for unlucky). Other men have happy lives with their Vietnamese wives but I'm unfortunate to be in this situation.'

He added: 'She's carrying my child but if she doesn't return and chooses to abort the foetus, I can't stop her too.'

Mr Quek plans to visit a free legal clinic to seek advice on what to do.

If he fails to convince Madam Kim to return, it will also be difficult for him to move on.

The Women's Charter states that no divorces can be filed until a couple have been married for three years.

Lawyer Nicholas Cheong said Mr Quek can still file for divorce if he can show he has suffered exceptional hardship from his wife's departure.

But Mr Cheong also pointed out that it would be difficult for Mr Quek to make a clean break from his wife as she's pregnant.

He said: 'She's entitled to ask for maintenance for their child though she left him. As the father, Mr Quek is obliged to support the child.'

Mr Lin has told Mr Quek that he will waive the remaining instalment of $1,000 if Madam Kim still refuses to return.'My job is done once the marriage is solemnised. I introduce the girls to customers but I certainly don't guarantee successful marriages,' said Mr Lin.


Case: Do background checks, read contract carefully

A FEW Singaporeans have turned to the consumer watchdog here for help after their Vietnamese brides ran away.

Such cases are few and far between, said Mr Lim Biow Chuan, vice-president of the Consumers Association of Singapore (Case).

The association has seen four cases of runaway brides, said Case executive director Seah Seng Choon.

All these cases happened last year.

Mr Seah said: 'It's more in the form of feedback provided by consumers. Hence, in such cases, there would not be any action required on our end.'

Mr Seah said in two of the cases, the brides returned to Vietnam and refused to return to Singapore.

The whereabouts of the women in the other cases were not known.

He said customers of matchmaking agencies should formalise verbal agreements in writing and read the terms of the contracts before accepting the bride.

Mr Seah said: 'Several marriage contracts seen by Case state clearly that monies paid are non-refundable. Consumers need to consider this before agreeing to any contract.'

Mr P Arivalagan, Singapore's consul in Ho Chi Minh City, said that the consulate also receives requests from Singaporean men for help regarding runaway brides.

He declined to reveal any figures.

The service provided by marriage agencies is covered by the Consumer Protection (Fair Trading)Act.

Mr Lim pointed out that in cases of runaway brides, there was little that Case could do, except to advise the men on the terms of the contracts.

He added that it would also make sense for the men to do background checks on the women before marrying them.

He said: 'If you're going to spend so much money, you should do checks before entering a life-long relationship. It's only common sense to find out more since she's going to share your life and home.'



Source: The New Paper (25/11/2013)

[Hurricane88]

Originally Posted by decent02

Dumped by pregnant foreign bride via phone

The association has seen four cases of runaway brides, said Case executive director Seah Seng Choon.

All these cases happened last year.

Mr Seah said in two of the cases, the brides returned to Vietnam and refused to return to Singapore.

The whereabouts of the women in the other cases were not known.

just dun understand why this chap is so naive...how can he expect to marry a gal he hardly know and courtship such short time...

never trust marriage agency...these agencies just want to make money...better for the chap to go hcm to find his own brides...he will be spoilt for choice...

in fact, there are so many such news that I just dun bother anymore...not just singapore but taiwan, south korea, etc...

a fren just told me yesterday that his Viet ex-gf came to visit after she broke off the planned marriage this year...he took the opportunity to scold and told the ex-gf off...now that he frequents hcm, he was spoilt for choice...i am guiding him now to hook VBs...recently he quite a big player...

[MIFAcafe]

This is tragedy cause by the man himself. If he read this thread before going to the agency; he will be better off.

I will not married her maybe until 1 year later.

I know a VB whom have a 4 year old son; and she is only 21 year old. (meant she already pregnant at 16) Just because she is in her early 20s; does not meant anything at all.

D2 thanks for the post; but I wonder will you learn from it?

VB tell lies; only thing to do is believe 10% and lies back to them.

Originally Posted by decent02

news from EDMW ... enjoy

Dumped by pregnant foreign bride via phone

Source: The New Paper (25/11/2013)

[SingViet]

I shall not comment too much as they are many bros here that are super pro-viet. I am not anti-viet but due to my 12 years of business dealings in VN and my long term stay in VN before, i am more wary of them than most bros here. What i can say is that most Singaporeans are simple and honest, compared to vietnamese. Do not assume that they are as simple as Singaporeans, they are surely not. Take precautions when dealing with them.

[naemlo]

Originally Posted by MIFAcafe

VB tell lies;

This is the trademark Just listen n play along with her. To expose her will kill your joy on the bed. Act blur will gain more....

[MIFAcafe]

VBs are fun and loving. Super jealous in nature.
One VB can even tell me cannot look at nurses when I go hospital.

But all thing balance itself out and VB are beauty with a evil mini vb hidden deep inside her.

I am now at pages 300 and I already learn more then my physical present in Vietnam.

Long way to go... Thanks to all the 老鸟 and also thank you 师傅。

Summary on how to handle VB quick temper and lies after 300 pages of reading.
以其人之道 还治其人之身。

Originally Posted by SingViet

I shall not comment too much as they are many bros here that are super pro-viet. I am not anti-viet but due to my 12 years of business dealings in VN and my long term stay in VN before, i am more wary of them than most bros here. What i can say is that most Singaporeans are simple and honest, compared to vietnamese. Do not assume that they are as simple as Singaporeans, they are surely not. Take precautions when dealing with them.

Originally Posted by naemlo

This is the trademark Just listen n play along with her. To expose her will kill your joy on the bed. Act blur will gain more....