Batam Info Thread

[newyorker88]

Originally Posted by localbest

No matter how I persuade she was still reluctant to reduce her short time price of 1 million even when I offered 700k just to test whether she accept or not.

In the end, I paid her 150k for (hj + roaming) plus massage fee of 90k per hour. She still happily cept the money even when she missed the chance of earning the 700k.

Seems like not all hotel masseuse are desperate for money....

That's the issue of knowing if you are a foreigner or not. If you are, they will chop Robert or try their luck. Especially those who are SYT, new to batam.

[newyorker88]

Originally Posted by localbest

From my understanding, basically there are five types of freelancer:

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There is another few type, some with husbands in Singapore, but having boyfriends to supplement income.

Some who are models, and actress and FL for v high price.

[nono1973]

Originally Posted by Kent_do

Hahaha,
It is Thanks In Advance...

Thank you...

Originally Posted by localbest

No matter how I persuade she was still reluctant to reduce her short time price of 1 million even when I offered 700k just to test whether she accept or not.

In the end, I paid her 150k for (hj + roaming) plus massage fee of 90k per hour. She still happily accept the money even when she missed the chance of earning the 700k.

Seems like not all hotel masseuse are desperate for money....

This info is interesting...note taken,hehehe...

Originally Posted by localbest

But I always managed to negotiate down to 150k-200k for hj and 350k-400k for fj.

Anything above my range, I would rather give it up.

One thing I notice, to some indo cewek, short time may not necessarily include a blowjob.

I remembered when I took short time with one of the king's cewek, she refused to blow me even though I had washed my dick head super clean.

She commented in bahasa and said:" Mulut saya untuk cari uang bukan untuk makan eskrim" which means I was given a mouth to earn money and not to suck your dick !!!

The amt is same as what i usually pay for on HJ &/or FJ in a Massage places in Batam. I will be looking forward to bargain the price down to 100k for HJ & 200k FJ as what bro Newyorker says in his post,but my main worry is the masseur will do the HJ with a black face plus i don't know their language. My usual bargaining methods are,the "take it or leave it" method,and definitely has no problem in thinking with my big head even if it's Miss Universe type of girl were to stands naked in front of me.

Thank you for your valuable information.

Originally Posted by localbest

From my understanding, basically there are five types of freelancer:

The first type of freelancer are those cewek who have a pimp to look after them and in return the pimp get a commission from her for each short time she did. They work as full time WL but not in a brothel. The pimp will help them to source for business too. Examples are those street walkers along the street near pacific or other small lorongs.

The second type of freelancer are those cewek who are occasionally attached to a massage parlour for massage services without any contract with the boss. They can suka suka come and go with no restrictions. They will find opportunity to hunt for man for short time or maybe long time deal after the massage. They are also considered as full time WL. Example are freelancers in princess massage mp (as mentioned by bro newyorker)

The third type of freelancer are those cewek who are working in the pub or bars in NED. As they cannot be bar-fined unlike pattaya/angeles city, you have to wait till her shift is over before you can bring her back to your hotel room to fuck. They are also full time WL but just that some of the days they are been left on the shelf so frequency of sex is definitely lesser than the first and second type. Examples are those bars&pubs in kampung bule, no name, etc

The fourth type of freelancer are those cewek who roam around the disco and try to fish for robert. Some of them are actually holding a day time job and occasionally went there at night to look for extra business. Since they have no boss, their prices are usually negotiable.Examples are discos like pacific, newton, seruni, planet, etc.

The fifth type of freelancer are those cewek who you may met in public place like on the street, shopping centre, coffee shop or restaurant. Usually when they see you are alone will find chance to strike a conversation with you. They maybe those syt who work as factory girls but in need of urgent cash so they will part time themselves. As some of them are decent looking and still green, not much sex experience, this is what attracted the man. Since they dont have any pimp to promote their business, then they would usually search on their own.

Wah!! Another good information,sorry i need to thank you a 3rd time for the same thread-read today. This post really helps me understand how FL operates. Thanks again.

[19th]

Originally Posted by localbest

On average, I was also been quoted that price for hj and fj too.

But I always managed to negotiate down to 150k-200k for hj and 350k-400k for fj.

Anything above my range, I would rather give it up.

One thing I notice, to some indo cewek, short time may not necessarily include a blowjob.

I remembered when I took short time with one of the king's cewek, she refused to blow me even though I had washed my dick head super clean.

She commented in bahasa and said:" Mulut saya untuk cari uang bukan untuk makan eskrim" which means I was given a mouth to earn money and not to suck your dick !!!

Perhaps it is true that generally indo cewek are not that keen to provide blowjob than their brown sugar counterpart pinay ....

I know a ex-King's masseur who i have been using for a long time. She have quit but still in touch with her. During the time when she was a masseur, she was reluctant for BJ but now when I meet up with her, she gave one hell of a BJ and damm horny and always asking for 2nd round.
I think, that they need to get comfortable with you to give good service.

[Naka_Timo]

Originally Posted by kuatos

Hi bros, may I know for gals in batam, if overnight is what to what time and how many shots they allow? Don't seem to find info on this 2 qn

Time is usually start noon or slightly early. till next day 9am. Some if no chemistry, will leave early. usually i tink 2 to 3 shots ba. If like u maybe more

[localbest]

Originally Posted by nono1973

The amt is same as what i usually pay for on HJ &/or FJ in a Massage places in Batam. I will be looking forward to bargain the price down to 100k for HJ & 200k FJ as what bro Newyorker says in his post,but my main worry is the masseur will do the HJ with a black face plus i don't know their language. My usual bargaining methods are,the "take it or leave it" method,and definitely has no problem in thinking with my big head even if it's Miss Universe type of girl were to stands naked in front of me.

Many people like to use the pretend tactic to negotiate with the masseuse for short time price.

It means that you will pretend as if like not interested and rejected the short time offer due to price quoted by cewek is too expensive and you will then counter offer another much lower price to her.

But in our mind we are already prepared to take up the offer should the masseuse refuse to lower down the price because our big head sometimes can be overtaken by our small head unknowingly. (不知不觉中)

Then if the massage cewek is desperate for money, most likely she will agree to it.

However this "pretend tactic" may not be applicable to all massage cewek. Some of them (especially hotel masseuse) as I mentioned before would rather give up the short time deal with the customer than to lower down their market price.

I ever manage to negotiate a (handjob + roaming) deal from 250k to 120k with a massage cewek (milf) from bahari massage. (lower end budget hotel)

And in my best record I ever negotiated another (handjob + roaming) from 200k down to 100k, with a 20 years old young cewek from chinatown massage but she is a baby elephant, face still okay la but body wise damn jialat, papaya sagging, stomach got 3 layers...

For any handjob offered, I will make it clear to the massage cewek that it must also include her to strip naked for my hand to do roaming. (at least top naked but full naked lagi better).

This is necessary to prevent dispute later when the deed begins. In chinese idioms it is known as 先小人后君子...

If handjob by cewek without roaming, I might as well masturbate myself in formosa toilet and the money is pass from my left hand to my right hand, hehe...

[nono1973]

Originally Posted by localbest

Many people like to use the pretend tactic to negotiate with the masseuse for short time price.

It means that you will pretend as if like not interested and rejected the short time offer due to price quoted by cewek is too expensive and you will then counter offer another much lower price to her.

But in our mind we are already prepared to take up the offer should the masseuse refuse to lower down the price because our big head sometimes can be overtaken by our small head unknowingly. (不知不觉中)

Then if the massage cewek is desperate for money, most likely she will agree to it.

My "take it or leave it" method is nearly the same,but i don't have to "pretend" to be not interested. i will just not take up the special at all and go to another masseur or another massage shop for another hour of massage,since the massage price is usually between 60k/hr to 90k/hr.I have the option to extend another hour using another masseur or just drop in to another massage shop.That is 1 good advantage when i do have plenty of time in Batam. Unlike sillypore where the massage price is usually S$50.00/hr,and if i go to another massage shop or masseur,it is going to cost me another S$50.00 and i don't have that kind of budget to switch.In Sillypore,nearly 20 years ago,this method is applicable when the massage price per hour was S$20.00.

I remember when i was much younger in Sillypore,there was some Chinese Indo Aunties who would wish to buy certain stuffs and they start their bargaining with "wah,so expensive!"...when i give them a small percentage of discount on the particular product that they choose,they will start the bargaining based on the given "discounted price" by asking for a 40% to 50% off...i had a rude shock but later learned that it was part of indo's bargain culture to bargain down the price by 50% or more and then slowly up the price back between the sellers and the buyers. If the price is not RIGHT,they will just walk off but will usually return back a day or 2 later to bargain again...lol.

So today,i walk in to a massage parlour in Batam,get an hour massage,towards end of massage if the masseur pop the GQ say 300k/HJ,i will tell them expensive...then they will ask me how much i want,i will counter ask them instead how much they can lower or just hand signal them to lower the price,which they will usually drop to 200k. Got to say in advance i don't speak indo or malay here. And when they drop the price to 200k,i will bargain base on the 200k,hehehe....which so far successfully dropped to 150k and i believe if i insist,can even go down to 100k. My main concern for not dropping it to 100k is my dick is at stake here with an unhappy masseur.

So far this method only fail once in King's Massage where the whole bargaining process couldnt end with a happy ending. I just clean up,dress up and walk over to their paying counter and ask for another 90k/hr massage by another masseur who willingly fell for the bargaining trick which i learned from the Indo Aunties in Sillypore many years ago. And if i worry my current masseur may bad mouth me to the other new masseur ,i can always go to another massage shop just across Formosa.

Again,i need to say it's a big head over small head thing here. This bargaining method helps me in my taxi bargaining too,hehehe..."take it or leave it".

I also realise King's Massage has not much competition around the area,hence they are able to monopolise their higher special service pricing. And many a time during my visit,they are always Full House,so i believe they have no lack of bushiness. I still prefer going to massage places where they don't offer special tho cos i feel good if i can get a special service from a non-special service shop. And for now i will constantly be flipping thru Bro New Yorker's signature list and some old pages of this thread becos i am beginning to start venturing into Batam massage place.

I thank everyone who in this page and the last few when you were talking about Batam massage stuffs becos i have been reading them a few times and gathering certain key information.

Sincerely thank you all.

[newyorker88]

Originally Posted by nono1973

My "take it or leave it" method is nearly the same,



which so far successfully dropped to 150k and i believe if i insist,can even go down to 100k. My main concern for not dropping it to 100k is my dick is at stake here with an unhappy masseur.

So far this method only fail once in King's Massage where the whole bargaining process couldnt end with a happy ending. I just clean up,dress up and walk over to their paying counter and ask for another 90k/hr massage by another masseur who willingly fell for the bargaining trick which i learned from the Indo Aunties in Sillypore many years ago. And if i worry my current masseur may bad mouth me to the other new masseur ,i can always go to another massage shop just across Formosa.

Again,i need to say it's a big head over small head thing here. This bargaining method helps me in my taxi bargaining too,hehehe..."take it or leave it".

I also realise King's Massage has not much competition around the area,.

usually, if you are able to pass off as a local, 100k will do for HJ. FJ is about 200K... For SYT, add abit more.

As for Kings Massage, that is one place I dun frequent as there are too many foreigners getting specials there. Knowing that the massage customers are plenty, they tend to hold their prices or try to try their luck as there are many more to come.

Bahari massage? hahaha, usually clean. If you get to hotel room, maybe they provide. MOSTLY MILF.

Chinatown Massage? baby elephant? Did not try to get her before. Although I wanted to try her. But age 20? You got to be kidding, I seen her there for years, unless you are referring to another gal.

[newyorker88]

Originally Posted by localbest

Then if the massage cewek is desperate for money, most likely she will agree to it.

However this "pretend tactic" may not be applicable to all massage cewek. Some of them (especially hotel masseuse) as I mentioned before would rather give up the short time deal with the customer than to lower down their market price.

I ever manage to negotiate a (handjob + roaming) deal from 250k to 120k with a massage cewek (milf) from bahari massage. (lower end budget hotel)

And in my best record I ever negotiated another (handjob + roaming) from 200k down to 100k, with a 20 years old young cewek from chinatown massage but she is a baby elephant, face still okay la but body wise damn jialat, papaya sagging, stomach got 3 layers...



This is necessary to prevent dispute later when the deed begins. In chinese idioms it is known as 先小人后君子...

Usually HJ with roaming half naked is possible for 100K. Some of them willing, some want to add money. FJ is 200K, of cos, excluding the massage prices.

[rauldon]

Hi bros anyone will be there on MOnday ..going for 1 day be back on tuesday

[nono1973]

Originally Posted by newyorker88

usually, if you are able to pass off as a local, 100k will do for HJ. FJ is about 200K... For SYT, add abit more.

As for Kings Massage, that is one place I dun frequent as there are too many foreigners getting specials there. Knowing that the massage customers are plenty, they tend to hold their prices or try to try their luck as there are many more to come.

Bahari massage? hahaha, usually clean. If you get to hotel room, maybe they provide. MOSTLY MILF.

Chinatown Massage? baby elephant? Did not try to get her before. Although I wanted to try her. But age 20? You got to be kidding, I seen her there for years, unless you are referring to another gal.

I definitely not be able to pass off as Indo Locals for sure. Not even another 100 trips to Batam later...lol

Yea,so from next trip onward i may give Kings a miss. Don't wish to be feeding to their over pricing unless i don't plan on having special which i usually don't if i were to visit. Heard from some tenants in Centre point that part of the building gonna be converted into a hotel. Hopefully by then,there will be more massage places around formosa within stone throw away.

So far been only to Linda's Massage ,Relax Massage and Kings. And have got special on all 3 places. But for Relax,i heard it was clean,and i tried a 2nd time to get special there but fail.(i will still keep trying cos it's only 70k/hour) Linda's massage mostly MILF,Relax seems to have all the younger girls tho,mostly from 6.5/10 to 8/10,hehehe...and as for Kings,most girls there appears to work in that place for very long liao. Most time i also get the girls not from the album at the counter,i think these group of girls are called something like "Reflexsi" girls or something...where they are mostly specialise with Foot Reflexology. But w/o looking at the girl's photo from album,one pretty much depends on luck in terms of look but their massage standard all very solid one. (since i don't plan on having specials)...and i was quoted 200k for ball/dick massage. I didn't bargain since i dont plan to take up.

I'm looking for those near to Formosa. I stayed in Formosa,don't wish to sweat myself all the way to a massage parlour too far off,dried myself at the massage place,then sweat myself all the way back to hotel again. So on my next trip,plan my itinerary 1st on where i wish to go and will drop by to the nearest Massage Parlour near to the "places of interest" i visit. I cant massage in Hotel cos at most time,there is already a "booking girl" in the formosa room liao,oh well...but i am thinking of booking another cheaper room from another hotel tho (maybe even same hotel)...hehehe...still in the planning so i am reading (and tracking) this thread again and again and again for more options.

No point for me to ask anyone any questions yet as i have no concrete itinerary for my Sept trip. But i will be reading as this thread move along on Batam Massage and collecting informations so as to have more available options when my 8th trip draws closer.

[newyorker88]

Originally Posted by nono1973

I'm looking for those near to Formosa. I stayed in Formosa,don't wish to sweat myself all the way to a massage parlour too far off,dried myself at the massage place,then sweat myself all the way back to hotel again. So on my next trip,plan my itinerary 1st on where i wish to go and will drop by to the nearest Massage Parlour near to the "places of interest" i visit. I cant massage in Hotel cos at most time,there is already a "booking girl" in the formosa room liao,oh well...but i am thinking of booking another cheaper room from another hotel tho (maybe even same hotel)...hehehe...still in the planning so i am reading (and tracking) this thread again and again and again for more options.

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There are many other hotels to choose from. Formosa is chosen by many becos of close proximity to many pick up joints. Of cos, it is a place that is "spoilt". Even massage too in that area. Due to high influx of foreigners.


Try Utama Hotel, also near a lot of massage joints and there are a few joints nearby too... Permah indah, Dolly... etc..

[Madara]

Wow...nice updated info...😜

[Heil Hitler]

Any bros here have the phone number of Batam City Hotel?

[KohOnly21]

Originally Posted by newyorker88

There are many other hotels to choose from. Formosa is chosen by many becos of close proximity to many pick up joints. Of cos, it is a place that is "spoilt". Even massage too in that area. Due to high influx of foreigners.


Try Utama Hotel, also near a lot of massage joints and there are a few joints nearby too... Permah indah, Dolly... etc..

Just sharing..

My favorite hotel Acacia

Bring girls back, they sure won't run hehehe.

330k a night with bathtub, swimming pool and nice scenery, really have mountain have sea

Friendly and helpful staffs with no hidden agenda.

Signal is weak there. Hence, your girl won't be ignoring you !