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[ronaldo1]

Originally Posted by ilovepantyhose

i think ETH sacked primarily due to several reasons:

to trololol, here's 2 extreme suggestions: 1) sell players who are 24 and older, and promote youngsters to 1st team, let them play together for 2-3 seasons and the understanding should become telepathic, fast-track the wonderkid chido obi-martin to 1st team. 2) reform the wage contract system, players don't get paid if they lose or draw, get paid if they win, and attractive bonuses if win the title or UCL. enough motivation boh?

Quite on point. Plus I think his way of managing players more suited to academy players like at ajax. He use the same style on superstars it just don’t bring out the best in them and breed resentment. So obvious in all the games that the senior players are not fighting for him anymore. I feel even Bruno is forced to just support him on the media because he was made club captain. Unnecessary pressure and responsibility causing his performance to drop since last season. Think about our workplaces its largely the same situation. Gotta adapt to the environment.

[lacoruna69]

Originally Posted by lacoruna69

Next match is EFL Cup match (Round of 16) against Leicester at OT.
Leicester should be peeing in their pants now because might encounter fiercesome backlash from Man U players who had something to prove.

Looks like I'm right!

The Devils played good right off the bat.

More energectic and urgency. Giving botak a slap on his bald head.

HT : Man U 4-2 Leicester

[lacoruna69]

Originally Posted by Tai_zi21

In this squad can u name me more than 5 players to wear the utd badge!

I can name 3 for now
Martinez
Mainoo
Garnacho

The rest? They are just here for the money including our rashford and Bruno…

I think Amad and Maguire, deserved a mention. Evans at 36 also gives his best.
He was MOTM against Villa.

[Tai_zi21]

Originally Posted by lacoruna69

I think Amad and Maguire, deserved a mention. Evans at 36 also gives his best.
He was MOTM against Villa.

Yes have to agreed….

And yes usual after the sacking of a manager this team of mother fuckers can thrash Leicester 5-2…. When was the last time they score 5 goals against another team?

[ilovepantyhose]

Originally Posted by lacoruna69

Giving botak a slap on his bald head.

RVN got the reaction he wanted from the players, here are some thoughts:

- leicester fielded a 2nd string side and the diff in quality is obvious, man u created many chances and scored 5, seems like the lifting of spirits and morale improved performance and result

- slight tweak of tactics as man u would try to move the ball upfield faster, long balls need to be more accurate though, midfielders dropped slightly deeper for better buildup play and reduce the gaps

- zirkzee understanding w teammates not there yet, as he still cannot release the ball fast enough when he spots an open teammate. hope can improve as he plays more

- defensive issues still remain: fullbacks still invert and flanks were left exposed; leicester 1st goal, ball was floated in from free kick, man u was unable to properly clear, ball went to the left flank, 2 leicester players were there to create an overload as man u were slow to close down, cross went in, then bayindir also unable to properly deal with the cross, ball fell to khannouss who scored; leicester 2nd goal, again man u unable to properly clear the ball, and an unmarked coady tapped in the loose ball. man u have developed this nervousness and confusion when defending set pieces, must get rid of it asap

- let amass play, or bring a DL in on loan as addtl cover. martinez would subconciously drift to his usual DC posn from the DL posn. chelsea will certainly exploit unless mazraoui can be fit in time

- pls stop inverting the fullbacks! just let them be traditional fullbacks who operate at their own flanks, inverting them will leave big gaps in the defence and opponents will exploit

- the players cannot be complacent after this win, as it was against a weakened side, chelsea will be a tough test as they have better form. realistically speaking, man u prolly won't win but must go down fighting

[Rickey]

Originally Posted by Tai_zi21

My thought abt the sacking of botak…

I once thought he will be the manager to lead us to challenge for title… clinching 3rd place and champions league spot in his first season… wining us the energy drink cup…

Just when I thought we will improve from there… who did we sign? Onana? Mount? Pls don’t ever tell me this 2 players improve the team… poor signing season after season… Antony at 80 millions make us the jokers among rival fan… out of all his ex players only Martinez didn’t let us down…for this season signing… did anyone impress ur guys so far? Not for me at least… so the question boil down is the owners wanting the players or the manager?

And to be very honest… I don’t care who come in now? Cos u know what the main prob in Manchester United? The players and the owners…

In this squad can u name me more than 5 players to wear the utd badge!

I can name 3 for now
Martinez
Mainoo
Garnacho

The rest? They are just here for the money including our rashford and Bruno…

Trust me even pep or Zidane can’t save Manchester United now… clear out the deadwood and with glazers and Jim around I don’t think we will ever win a title again

God bless my club that I have supported more than 20 years

Well said bro Tai...can't hv said it better...but let's hope Amorim don't fall into the same trap like botak did....hope he has better footballing management skills n intelligence than the baldy

[Rickey]

Originally Posted by ilovepantyhose

i think ETH sacked primarily due to several reasons:

1) rigid tactics
- play out from the back every game, even against opponent high press, the defence was under immediate pressure once they lose possession in their own half, this issue wasn't resolved after 2 seasons and despite new signings

- midfield got overrun with increasing frequency which also coincided with casemiro drastic drop in performances since season 2. this issue wasn't resolved since season 2

- didn't switch to a back 5 defence despite allowing opponents many shots at goal and the way goals were conceded is blood boiling

- instructing the full backs to invert, they moved infield and left gaps on the flanks which were duly exploited by opponents to overload or cross whenever man u lost the ball

2) deteriorating performances and results
- ETH did not address the issues stemming from his tactics, its the same plan every match, performances and results worsen as season 2 progressed. man u won the fa cup because it was a diff game plan: sit deep and compact, and counter with pace, it was not ETH own plan

- during season 2, man u could take the lead, but cannot hold on to it. many times they couldn't kill off the game and allowed opponents to equalise or even concede late winners, ETH did not address this issue quickly enough. is it concentration? is it mentality? is it complacency? is it nervousness?

- in some matches, man u could start brightly and dominate the initial proceedings, but if they couldn't take the lead, things would go downhill from there. in some matches, man u was slow off the blocks, got increasingly nervy, defended like schboys and conceded

3) player sentiment
- performances and results under ETH were similar to OGS's, OGS also wanted the team to play out from the back but he didn't have the personnel to pass their way out from opponent high press. when results didn't go their way, i dare say the players started to quiet quit, they must have felt disappointed that the manager used the same plan regardless of results and wasn't able to adjust the tactics according to next opponent. even though the players didn't say it publicly, their performances were telling in the final months leading up to the sacking of either manager. (also notice how delulu both managers were during their interviews in their final months)

- read online that ETH would use extra training as "punishment" for poor performances/results, players would be tired before the next match, lose and then go thru extra training. its a vicious cycle as the fatigue would snowball, affected matchday performances and the unhappiness keeps piling up

to trololol, here's 2 extreme suggestions: 1) sell players who are 24 and older, and promote youngsters to 1st team, let them play together for 2-3 seasons and the understanding should become telepathic, fast-track the wonderkid chido obi-martin to 1st team. 2) reform the wage contract system, players don't get paid if they lose or draw, get paid if they win, and attractive bonuses if win the title or UCL. enough motivation boh?

Well said too bro ILPH....I support yr suggestions... otherwise these lazy players will play the way they like ai mai ai Mai....they must be punished for bad or poor performance n not putting in effort to score for the team ..if they can get away with shit play, then I pity Amorim...they will throw him under the bus too like they did all the previous managers...this is called players' power

[Rickey]

Originally Posted by lacoruna69

Looks like I'm right!

The Devils played good right off the bat.

More energectic and urgency. Giving botak a slap on his bald head.

HT : Man U 4-2 Leicester

Originally Posted by Tai_zi21

Yes have to agreed….

And yes usual after the sacking of a manager this team of mother fuckers can thrash Leicester 5-2…. When was the last time they score 5 goals against another team?

New manager bounce...yes, but for how long ???...it's only lowly Leicester which is deemed to go back into Division 2...don't be too happy

[Rickey]

Originally Posted by ilovepantyhose

RVN got the reaction he wanted from the players, here are some thoughts:

- leicester fielded a 2nd string side and the diff in quality is obvious, man u created many chances and scored 5, seems like the lifting of spirits and morale improved performance and result

- slight tweak of tactics as man u would try to move the ball upfield faster, long balls need to be more accurate though, midfielders dropped slightly deeper for better buildup play and reduce the gaps

- zirkzee understanding w teammates not there yet, as he still cannot release the ball fast enough when he spots an open teammate. hope can improve as he plays more

- defensive issues still remain: fullbacks still invert and flanks were left exposed; leicester 1st goal, ball was floated in from free kick, man u was unable to properly clear, ball went to the left flank, 2 leicester players were there to create an overload as man u were slow to close down, cross went in, then bayindir also unable to properly deal with the cross, ball fell to khannouss who scored; leicester 2nd goal, again man u unable to properly clear the ball, and an unmarked coady tapped in the loose ball. man u have developed this nervousness and confusion when defending set pieces, must get rid of it asap

- let amass play, or bring a DL in on loan as addtl cover. martinez would subconciously drift to his usual DC posn from the DL posn. chelsea will certainly exploit unless mazraoui can be fit in time

- pls stop inverting the fullbacks! just let them be traditional fullbacks who operate at their own flanks, inverting them will leave big gaps in the defence and opponents will exploit

- the players cannot be complacent after this win, as it was against a weakened side, chelsea will be a tough test as they have better form. realistically speaking, man u prolly won't win but must go down fighting

Yes, u r right...their basic weaknesses r still there....they r playing against a very weak team ...it they can score like this against Chelsea this weekend, then there is hope they can be in top 4 or top 6...I still say, there r still a lot of deadwoods in this current team, if the club can't get rid of them they will keep losing matches whether it's Amorim, Pep or Klopp in charge

[ChrisSutton]

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[Marmots]

Originally Posted by Tai_zi21

Trust me even pep or Zidane can’t save Manchester United now… clear out the deadwood and with glazers and Jim around I don’t think we will ever win a title again

God bless my club that I have supported more than 20 years

What you say is the truth.
Since SAF left, Man Utd has regressed much, for huge was his shadow.

The rebuilding is going to be slow, and it is going to be painful.
I honestly don't think Jason Wilcox as tech director is going to cut it, Marc Overmars would be great, but too much baggage.

There is indeed too much deadwood at Man Utd now, Antony at £200k per week first and foremost.
Casemiro is at £350k per week, £18.2m/year.
Way overpaid, way way overpaid.
RashFord is showing some signs of being better than last season, but still not good enough. It is honestly not hard to be better than how he performed last season.

This season, except for Yoro, all we got were hand me downs, players that were not good enough for their own teams but deemed good enough for Man Utd.
But at least this time, Man Utd did not break the bank for them, nor could Man Utd have, with the FFP thing.

Now rumours indicate Amorim wants some of his Sporting players, a la ETH and Ajax. I worry at this.

But being the supporters we are, we will continue to believe, I guess we have to.
When SAF brought the glories to Man Utd, the Directors, CEO, any executive staff were largely irrelevant.
SAF built Man Utd up again brick by brick by brick.

Man Utd need, Man Utd will, find someone to do it again.
I have faith.
We have been with Man Utd through the ups, we will be there when they are down, for we are Manchester United.

P/S: I did dumped Man Utd when Mourinho came onboard, but wasn't unfaithful, just did not care about Man Utd while he was there. Hated his arrogance.
Forgive me