SHA+ Hotel and 1st night RT-PCR

[soblur2]

Guys - For sharing purpose.

Assuming you book a SHA+ hotel. Once you land at Suvarnabhumi Airport, find the transport and they will bring you to the drive-thru testing location. In general you will know the results within 10 hours.

For my case.

1) Testing at ~12pm
2) Testing uploaded to lab ~3pm
3) Report out ~7pm
4) Sent to hotel ~8.30pm
5) Called reception to ask ~9.30pm, reception say no results yet
6) Reception call ~10.30pm to say report is out

Key will be to contact the reception to ask as they are not regularly checking. Granted as they have other things to do.

[daviddavid]

Thank Bro, Great Info, especially I also be going Bangkok on 11 Mar:D

[Wishcareful]

Certain hotels can help you arrange for expedited (3 hrs or less) testing. You best mention you want that when u get the confirmation email from their staff.

For context on the confirmation email, after All of the test and go bookings I’ve done for myself and my friends so far the reservation manager will contact u for details. (Grand fortune ratchada, and Amari watergate). Otherwise find their contact details online so u can request for the expedited testing. The faster testing will cost around 2000Baht more. And typically need to be booked 3 days in advance.

I had another friend tell the nurse who tested at the hotel at 1pm that he had urgent meetings at 5-6pm and she pushed out the results for him by 5. Maybe his charm worked wonders!

Last note, the fastest turnaround for Test and Go submission is 12-16 hrs. (Best record Submitted at 9pm approved at 9am for flight day after. Very impressed with the efficiency )

Just make sure all ur docs are scanned at high resolution along with vacc QR codes and all should be smooth.

[countryman]

Saw in their latest news today they're pushing for "No Thailand Pass" needed for tourists n also no arrival pcr test required. All that is needed is a negative pcr test no more than 48hrs before your departure into Thailand..
Hope this comes true !

[fallen11]

Guys - For sharing purpose.

Assuming you book a SHA+ hotel. Once you land at Suvarnabhumi Airport, find the transport and they will bring you to the drive-thru testing location. In general you will know the results within 10 hours.

For my case.

1) Testing at ~12pm
2) Testing uploaded to lab ~3pm
3) Report out ~7pm
4) Sent to hotel ~8.30pm
5) Called reception to ask ~9.30pm, reception say no results yet
6) Reception call ~10.30pm to say report is out

Key will be to contact the reception to ask as they are not regularly checking. Granted as they have other things to do.

My friend's example:
depends on choice of hotel.
1) arrived at 1230pm for swab.
2) uploaded at 2pm.
3) result out at 530pm
4) tried to contact the staffs to no avail for the whole night.....
5) staff replied 1030am next day and send result
wasted 1 night..

Another example:
1) arrived to swab at 7pm.
2) uploaded at 10pm.
3) result out at 5.30am next morning.
4) contacted staff and they dont have the result
5) only given the result at 12pm on day 2 even though they got it earlier.

A better example:
1) arrived for swab at 530pm.
2) uploaded at 8pm.
3) result out and delivered to your room door at 530am next morning.

The best i experienced. (if you are willing to pay for a 5 star hotel)
1) reported for swab at 9am.
2) uploaded at 930am
3) result out and was contacted immediately at 130pm. Freedom within 4h!

[hellothis555]

The best i experienced. (if you are willing to pay for a 5 star hotel)
1) reported for swab at 9am.
2) uploaded at 930am
3) result out and was contacted immediately at 130pm. Freedom within 4h!

The reason why I prefer to reach BKK in the late afternoon, which I did during last trip. By the time u reach hotel is in the evening.. check a few emails, youtube and rest. Next morning the result will be out and free to go anywhere. :D I do not want to reach BKK in the morning and wait for the whole day in hotel. Some results are fast, while others slow.

[soonboy]

I am going to bkk for 7 days in Mar. My Thai pass was approved in 22 Feb. But my hotel called and say as my Thai pass was approved before 1 Mar 22, I will need to undergo day 5 pcr test.

Is it true?

[hellothis555]

I am going to bkk for 7 days in Mar. My Thai pass was approved in 22 Feb. But my hotel called and say as my Thai pass was approved before 1 Mar 22, I will need to undergo day 5 pcr test.

Is it true?

They have to refund u the PCR cost.

[F-boy]

I am going to bkk for 7 days in Mar. My Thai pass was approved in 22 Feb. But my hotel called and say as my Thai pass was approved before 1 Mar 22, I will need to undergo day 5 pcr test.

Is it true?

Yes the new rule no 5th day PCR only starts 1 March and effective 7th March

[devil99]

Hi Guys, will be going in late Mar, for departure back to SG. what test we need to book?

[hellothis555]

Hi Guys, will be going in late Mar, for departure back to SG. what test we need to book?

Either PCR or ART in Thailand. Google "safe travel singapore".

[Rdaytona]

Hi Guys, will be going in late Mar, for departure back to SG. what test we need to book?

Last update was only take supervised ART within 24hrs after reaching Singapore... no PCR test required... you can book thru online for this... :):)

[fallen11]

Hi Guys, will be going in late Mar, for departure back to SG. what test we need to book?

Go Medconsult
Professionally taken ART
500 baht
swab to printed result out within 5min
got cheaper one but i dont know where is it.

[Jking]

anyone know whether 5/4stars hotel allows guest as now covid period, would they restrict entry? lastly, anyone know now can still book smoking room in bangkok hotel?

[fallen11]

anyone know whether 5/4stars hotel allows guest as now covid period, would they restrict entry? lastly, anyone know now can still book smoking room in bangkok hotel?

most hotel would allow guests now. Just send email or call to ask before you book, to confirm.

with smoking rooms:
Lancaster
Admiral Premier
The continental

Can book an apartment instead, almost all apartments allow smoking.

[devil99]

Either PCR or ART in Thailand. Google "safe travel singapore".

Thanks bro!

[devil99]

Go Medconsult
Professionally taken ART
500 baht
swab to printed result out within 5min
got cheaper one but i dont know where is it.

Thanks bro!

[ExcaliburSG]

My friend's example:
depends on choice of hotel.
1) arrived at 1230pm for swab.
............................................

Another example:
1) arrived to swab at 7pm.
.....................................

A better example:
1) arrived for swab at 530pm.
.........................................

The best i experienced. (if you are willing to pay for a 5 star hotel)
1) reported for swab at 9am.
2) uploaded at 930am
3) result out and was contacted immediately at 130pm. Freedom within 4h!

Is it generally true for 5 start hotel?
:)

[fallen11]

Is it generally true for 5 start hotel?
:)

Not sure. Its the only 5 star hotel i stayed in during covid era.
You can always send email or give a call to the hotel to ask. Would think the service for 5 star hotels are better.

[fullofschiiit]

any bros got experience in Chiang Mai? got news report that Thailand might be doing away with pre-departure PCR test so that's an incentive for me, even thou first day is waiting for result but if follow other ppl suggestion to reach afternoon then still ok lah.

[Libero]

Pre departure PCR flying into Thailand is not needed from April.

Pre departure ART (ATK) flying into Singapore - MedConsult 500baht, professionally done, fast and efficient, as recommended previously.

[EggSh3ll]

Pre departure PCR flying into Thailand is not needed from April.

Pre departure ART (ATK) flying into Singapore - MedConsult 500baht, professionally done, fast and efficient, as recommended previously.

I thought come back don't need to take test already? Or was it reach singapore only do self ART and not supervised?

[Libero]

As per SafeTravel website for VTLs:

Travellers who are eligible for VTL (Air), and have obtained their Vaccinated Travel Pass if needed, should refer to this VTL (Air) traveller checklist for the full list of requirements to complete VTL (Air) travel.

Travellers will need to undergo the following COVID-19 tests:

(1)
Pre-departure COVID-19 PCR, professionally administered ART, or self-administered and remotely supervised by an ART provider in Singapore providing such services taken within 2 days before departure for Singapore

(2)
Unsupervised self-administered ART using self-procured authorised ART kits within 24 hours of arrival in Singapore. Travellers are required to report their test result via https://www.sync.gov.sg before proceeding with their activities in Singapore.

[ExcaliburSG]

Not sure. Its the only 5 star hotel i stayed in during covid era.
You can always send email or give a call to the hotel to ask. Would think the service for 5 star hotels are better.

For me I choose 5 star hotel as it is deemed safer in a sense regarding Covid test result. I do not want to be quarantined (waste money and leave) if I am negative but somehow PCR states positive. Read of such things happening online. Do not discount it and that is holding me back previously. Yes booking 5 star hotel or reputable well known hotel does mitigate this risk.
Swap at 1pm and get result around 9pm. Turnaround still ok lah. Now can extend for another 2 nights.

Info for bros here
My test is within the hotel itself. During check in registration, I was issued with a WiFi slip containing the room number but will not be issued a card restricting you from going out of the room. After registration, I was told to proceed to a certain level. That level is meant for PCR testing. Once you reach, someone will be there to guide you to the test station. After that, one of the staff there will bring you to your room since you do not have any key card.

Once in the room, I perform a self ART. It is negative. At least I have some indication. After this just wait. Wait and wait till result is out.

[alexorcadia]

Does anyone know if a recovery memo is needed when traveling to Thailand? Cos I recently recovered from covid, but after isolation I still didn't get a recovery memo. Called MOH but they say now most people don't get recovery memo?

[hellothis555]

Does anyone know if a recovery memo is needed when traveling to Thailand? Cos I recently recovered from covid, but after isolation I still didn't get a recovery memo. Called MOH but they say now most people don't get recovery memo?

U can request for a recovery memo if u are traveling. There is a link go.gov.sg, which I forget. Call MOH hotline, they will give u the link to request.

Alternatively, u can go to the clinic and get the doctor to issue the recovery memo. Bring along the covid positive mc.

[sads]

What happens if one is diagnosed with convid on his 1st day at the hotel?

[hellothis555]

What happens if one is diagnosed with convid on his 1st day at the hotel?

Escort to quarantine accommodation. :D

[fallen11]

What happens if one is diagnosed with convid on his 1st day at the hotel?

find a hospital to admit to for quarantine.
10 days is the min. Different hospitals might apply the quarantine period differently but it ranges 10-14 days.
If you dont find yourself a hospital to admit, they can find for you. But it may take up to days and your 10 day quarantine only start counting from the day you are admitted, not the day you first got tested positive:)
you may also have to pay upfront deposit to get admitted first. (100k-300k baht)
Yup, the rules are much much more scary than the virus itself.

[sads]

find a hospital to admit to for quarantine.
10 days is the min. Different hospitals might apply the quarantine period differently but it ranges 10-14 days.
If you dont find yourself a hospital to admit, they can find for you. But it may take up to days and your 10 day quarantine only start counting from the day you are admitted, not the day you first got tested positive:)
you may also have to pay upfront deposit to get admitted first. (100k-300k baht)
Yup, the rules are much much more scary than the virus itself.


Thanks for the detailed explanation. I have seen youtube videos of chiongsters getting the virus and hid in the hotel till they no longer get a positive ART result. Took 10 days to recover but at least without the hefty hospital costs:

https://youtu.be/MeoEKml39Bw?t=284

Will take this route if it happens to me (planning to stay there for a month). Problem comes if I get diagnosed in the last few days, then no way to hide.... :(

[SillyBoy7]

The reason why I prefer to reach BKK in the late afternoon, which I did during last trip. By the time u reach hotel is in the evening.. check a few emails, youtube and rest. Next morning the result will be out and free to go anywhere. :D I do not want to reach BKK in the morning and wait for the whole day in hotel. Some results are fast, while others slow.

I agree with this method - going to do the same next week!

[fallen11]

Thanks for the detailed explanation. I have seen youtube videos of chiongsters getting the virus and hid in the hotel till they no longer get a positive ART result. Took 10 days to recover but at least without the hefty hospital costs:

https://youtu.be/MeoEKml39Bw?t=284

Will take this route if it happens to me (planning to stay there for a month). Problem comes if I get diagnosed in the last few days, then no way to hide.... :(

bills. it depends whether your insurance covers it.
else just claim from it.
the 10 days of nothingness is the killer.
if u got it on the last few days (without testing), just extend your trip and hide.

[overboard]

find a hospital to admit to for quarantine.
10 days is the min. Different hospitals might apply the quarantine period differently but it ranges 10-14 days.
If you dont find yourself a hospital to admit, they can find for you. But it may take up to days and your 10 day quarantine only start counting from the day you are admitted, not the day you first got tested positive:)
you may also have to pay upfront deposit to get admitted first. (100k-300k baht)

Holy shit. That much?! I thought if we get covid, and we have mild symptoms, we just need to quarantine in a chosen hotel for 10 days. And some insurance covers the quarantine cost if you kanna quarantine

[fallen11]

Holy shit. That much?! I thought if we get covid, and we have mild symptoms, we just need to quarantine in a chosen hotel for 10 days. And some insurance covers the quarantine cost if you kanna quarantine

i'm not so sure about quarantining in hotel now, whether you get to choose where to quarantine, specific hotels for you to choose from or the hospital chooses for you. Or even, if the choices are only available in phuket.
Only insurance policies that covers "non-symptom covid", wil cover mild symptoms as well.
Those that do not cover "non-symptom covid" will not cover mild symptoms due to their definitions, as it has to be somewhat life endangering and will not be considered as "mild". Eg: fever > 40 degrees, which is super hot.

[ZanShen]

4 more days to fly and yet to receive approval for Thailand Pass :eek: Emailed [email protected] . Anyone know of another email address that I can try? :(

[jackpotkawa]

Holy shit. That much?! I thought if we get covid, and we have mild symptoms, we just need to quarantine in a chosen hotel for 10 days. And some insurance covers the quarantine cost if you kanna quarantine

Thai insurance don't cover you anymore if you don't get admitted into a hospital. So best is still to buy local insurance for a peace of mind.

[hellothis555]

4 more days to fly and yet to receive approval for Thailand Pass :eek: Emailed [email protected] . Anyone know of another email address that I can try? :(

This TP is a pain in the ass comparing to other countries. Thai govt wants more tourists but yet they are making it difficult for tourists to go TH.

Dun bother emailing them, they do not or seldom reply. My 2 trips, TP approved on the 8th day and 5th day. The anxiety of getting the air ticket, insurance and hotel but yet dunno whether TP will arrive on time :D

when did you submit? :confused: Don't know below help or not. :o

ps.

If very close to departure date still no approval, best is call.

No use, called b4. No one pick up the call. Maybe, I was the unlucky 1.

[ZanShen]

when did you submit? :confused: Don't know below help or not. :o

ps.

If very close to departure date still no approval, best is call.

I applied last week on Wednesday. I will call them tomorrow if I still do not receive it today.

[calvinV2]

4 more days to fly and yet to receive approval for Thailand Pass :eek: Emailed [email protected] . Anyone know of another email address that I can try? :(
[email protected]@consular.go.th
Bro try this [email protected]

I do apply last week Tuesday afternoon they reply me on ytd evening approved

Good luck

[hellothis555]

I applied last week on Wednesday. I will call them tomorrow if I still do not receive it today.

If u submitted all docs, should get within these few days.... check with your hotel whether have they response to TP.

Last min, u can get an agent to do it for u, approve within a day but of cause needs to pay extra.

[fallen11]

Thai insurance don't cover you anymore if you don't get admitted into a hospital. So best is still to buy local insurance for a peace of mind.

That is for those plans which doesnt cover asymptomtic covid.
The ones which cover asymptomtic covid, still covers. But prices have risen quite a lot.

[hellothis555]

That is for those plans which doesnt cover asymptomtic covid.
The ones which cover asymptomtic covid, still covers. But prices have risen quite a lot.

I bought insurance from SG for both trips. Cheaper and covers are better than Thai insurance. 1 week premium/ top cover, only $50++, most important, pay u x amount for quarantine in hospital or approved isolation accommodation.

Thai insurance is a joke for this case.

[jackpotkawa]

That is for those plans which doesnt cover asymptomtic covid.
The ones which cover asymptomtic covid, still covers. But prices have risen quite a lot.

Yeah so read the policy before purchasing. Many travellers have to fork out money just because insurances are not covering if they are admitted into hospitel and not hospital.

[fallen11]

I bought insurance from SG for both trips. Cheaper and covers are better than Thai insurance. 1 week premium/ top cover, only $50++, most important, pay u x amount for quarantine in hospital or approved isolation accommodation.

Thai insurance is a joke for this case.

have you tried claiming yet?
the nightmare starts upon claiming. ask around those who bought non-thai insurance and got quarantined in thailand.:D
price wise thai insurance is expensive. due to claims..... premiums actually went up double within half a year.

[hellothis555]

have you tried claiming yet?
the nightmare starts upon claiming. ask around those who bought non-thai insurance and got quarantined in thailand.:D
price wise thai insurance is expensive. due to claims..... premiums actually went up double within half a year.

At least SG insurance allows u to claim for isolation. Whether can claim or not, talk later. :D Cost to cost, SG insurance is better.

I going Nana 6c6c... :D

[overboard]

Yeah so read the policy before purchasing. Many travellers have to fork out money just because insurances are not covering if they are admitted into hospitel and not hospital.

I just red some of the insurances. Seems like they will cover cost of hospital and quarantine. Well, at least to some extent. For example.. FWD states "Overseas hospital cash of $200 per day ($5,000 cap that includes overseas quarantine allowance)". But I think this is an additional. Rider you have to purchase. Anyone have a different interpretation of the insurances?

[3Dragon]

Abit confused cos the rules keep changing.

Heading up to Bkk this Wed 26/3. Do i need to do a PCR in sg before i go up?

Im aware i need to do a PCR wen i arrive in BKK. Just unsure abt the pre departure part.

Thks!!

[jackpotkawa]

I just red some of the insurances. Seems like they will cover cost of hospital and quarantine. Well, at least to some extent. For example.. FWD states "Overseas hospital cash of $200 per day ($5,000 cap that includes overseas quarantine allowance)". But I think this is an additional. Rider you have to purchase. Anyone have a different interpretation of the insurances?

I can't really remember but I think FWD and Income are the few of the better ones that actually cover if you're asymptotic.

[jackpotkawa]

Abit confused cos the rules keep changing.

Heading up to Bkk this Wed 26/3. Do i need to do a PCR in sg before i go up?

Im aware i need to do a PCR wen i arrive in BKK. Just unsure abt the pre departure part.

Thks!!

Yup, you will still need to do pre departure PCR for your trip

[3Dragon]

Yup, you will still need to do pre departure PCR for your trip

Thanks. I realised that you dun need it frm 1st April. Phew... i totally forgot abt it.

Thks buddy.

[BlueDragon193]

Let hope not just talk and no action....

Thailand Tourism officials push for all entry restrictions for vaccinated travellers to be lifted by June 1

Thaiger Published on Tuesday, March 22, 2022 16:28

Thailand’s tourism officials want an end to all entry restrictions for vaccinated travellers by June 1.
That means no quarantine, no Test & Go rules, no Sandbox zones, no Covid-19 tests.
A plan to gradually lift restrictions over the next few months, leading up to the removal of all restrictions by June 1,
has been drafted by the Tourism and Sports Ministry.
The proposal will need approval by the Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration.

If the number of daily new Covid-19 infections remains steady during the Songkran holiday from April 13 to 15,
then the ministry will move forward and propose the first phase of the plan to the CCSA.
Under the ministry’s plan, the on-arrival PCR Covid-19 test will be replaced with a rapid antigen test, or ATK, starting May 1.
The faster test, with results back in minutes, means travellers will no longer need to book a room at an approved hotel to self-isolate while they wait for their results.

If the change in on-arrival testing is approved, and if there is no spike in the infection rate, then the ministry will make
another proposal to the CCSA to lift all restrictions for fully vaccinated foreign tourists, according to Tourism and Sports Minister Phiphat Ratchakitprakarn.

Under the ministry’s plan (which still needs approval)…

April 1 – Travellers entering Thailand under the Test & Go and Sandbox scheme do not need a pre-departure PCR test.
** The CCSA announced this on March 18, but a spokesperson says the plan to scrap the pre-departure test requirement
still needs confirmation and it has not yet been published in the Royal Gazette.

May 1 – The on-arrival Covid-19 test changed from a PCR test to an ATK, allowing results within minutes and no need to isolate in a hotel room on Day 1.

June 1 – All entry restrictions lifted for fully vaccinated travellers.

[fallen11]

after my next trip, i wont return to thailand again till they scrap that day 1 pcr + quarantine in hotel room.
everywhere else in the region has opened up with less entry restrictions

[sniper968]

Guys - For sharing purpose.

Assuming you book a SHA+ hotel. Once you land at Suvarnabhumi Airport, find the transport and they will bring you to the drive-thru testing location. In general you will know the results within 10 hours.

For my case.

1) Testing at ~12pm
2) Testing uploaded to lab ~3pm
3) Report out ~7pm
4) Sent to hotel ~8.30pm
5) Called reception to ask ~9.30pm, reception say no results yet
6) Reception call ~10.30pm to say report is out

Key will be to contact the reception to ask as they are not regularly checking. Granted as they have other things to do.

Thanks for the advice. Any recommendations for a good hotel that is not crowded?

[sniper968]

I bought insurance from SG for both trips. Cheaper and covers are better than Thai insurance. 1 week premium/ top cover, only $50++, most important, pay u x amount for quarantine in hospital or approved isolation accommodation.

Thai insurance is a joke for this case.

which insurance do you recommend?

[fallen11]

Thanks for the advice. Any recommendations for a good hotel that is not crowded?

the more expensive, the less crowded it is.
cheapest ones most crowded. Like w21, the quarter, etc.

[hellothis555]

which insurance do you recommend?

I bought sompo.... with more countries opening up... I am looking at annual trip, company paying :D

[hellothis555]

Thanks for the advice. Any recommendations for a good hotel that is not crowded?

A lot of hotels are not crowded due to this covid....so depending on your budget and location....

[fallen11]

I bought sompo.... with more countries opening up... I am looking at annual trip, company paying :D

ya i just signed an annual travel insurance plan hahahahha
as i will be travelling very frequently in the next 2 months, easily cover half the annual premiums.:D

[aphrodisia]

Go Medconsult
Professionally taken ART
500 baht
swab to printed result out within 5min
got cheaper one but i dont know where is it.

This website doesnt have a confirmation email after making the booking right?

[fallen11]

This website doesnt have a confirmation email after making the booking right?

does not. actually it doesnt matter if you booked online or not. Go there still same. If you didnt register, they will ask you to do it on the spot there.

[aphrodisia]

does not. actually it doesnt matter if you booked online or not. Go there still same. If you didnt register, they will ask you to do it on the spot there.

Many thanks bro. Just hope my Day1 PCR test will be fast so i can still visit places on my first night as im landing 11am

[Yingmuhuadao]

Certain hotels can help you arrange for expedited (3 hrs or less) testing. You best mention you want that when u get the confirmation email from their staff.

For context on the confirmation email, after All of the test and go bookings I’ve done for myself and my friends so far the reservation manager will contact u for details. (Grand fortune ratchada, and Amari watergate). Otherwise find their contact details online so u can request for the expedited testing. The faster testing will cost around 2000Baht more. And typically need to be booked 3 days in advance.

I had another friend tell the nurse who tested at the hotel at 1pm that he had urgent meetings at 5-6pm and she pushed out the results for him by 5. Maybe his charm worked wonders!

Last note, the fastest turnaround for Test and Go submission is 12-16 hrs. (Best record Submitted at 9pm approved at 9am for flight day after. Very impressed with the efficiency )

Just make sure all ur docs are scanned at high resolution along with vacc QR codes and all should be smooth.

Bro don't mind me ask if the 2000 baht is per pax or room?
I'm planning to go with friend next month and considering if wanna pay 2000 for it to not waste a day anot.

[Yingmuhuadao]

if lucky, next month no more PCR also possible become ART on arrival. :)

ya lor they already removing pre departure pcr liao, only can hope they change the arrival to self administered ART then upload at some site then everything will be smooth smooth swee swee.

[ZanShen]

Approved already right? :D
Yes approved :p

[ExcaliburSG]

Still did not detach the testing from the 1st night hotel stay. There is a vested interest for Covid scam in such arrangement. Testing needs to be done independently from hotel stay like Malaysia / Cambodia etc. earlier with test at airport upon arrival and only when result is negative, are you allowed to roam around.

Discount it at your own risk and this is the one that hold me from coming to Thailand. You can mitigate such risk by staying in 5 star or well know hotel chain and because I can mitigate such risk, I go Thailand. I double check by self testing on my Day 1 after check in.

It is one thing to be quarantine if you are truly down with Covid vs your test claim you are positive when you are NOT. This is not about having low budget or some say 'no money dun go'. Many had missed this point that I am driving at.

:D

[aphrodisia]

Hi all i just reached my hotel in bkk i did my drive thru test at bangpakok hospital at 12.30pm and checked in around 1pm. Would like to check if im able to get my results by tonight? I have a flight at 7.30am the following day i asked the recep and she said maybe i cmi for my flight as it could be out in the morning. I asked if she could help expedite and she said no because its dependant on the hospital itself

[aphrodisia]

They will tell you within 24hrs surely. Your schedule so tight, why you never ask or request pay for express testing? :confused: Some of them have same day result but have cut off timing.

Maybe you can CALL the hospital admin NOW before they knock off for the day to see if possible or can help pay for expedite.

ps.

Alternatively, if you worry so much about not able to get the result before the flight, maybe try ask if can book a separate PCR test with express service. It will cost you money surely if the test can't be done at hotel mean need pay for transport. (burn pocket option 555)

But then there's a chance your original test result may be out by tonight also. 5555 Some say test from hospital is "faster" get result. Its your own judgement call since the hotel like not very helpful.

Your situation a bit tricky. What if so unlucky your result die die not out by flight time? Can they use the SHA+ transport send you to airport do testing there and depart from there? 5555

Ya lor shag man. Let me try to contact the hospital see if possible to get an exact range of timing for the results

[aphrodisia]

Oh yes and how do you guys track what time did the test get send in etc etc? I wasnt given any information after doing the PCR test

[hellothis555]

Oh yes and how do you guys track what time did the test get send in etc etc? I wasnt given any information after doing the PCR test

There is nothing provided other than the 5th day ATK kit. Go back to your hotel and wait for the result. :D

[aphrodisia]

The hotel supposed to receive your test result then relay to you? If got use morchana app 5555 the QR code will turn yellow/orange to green after -ve result? :D i think so.

Don't mind asking the hotel you stay is how many stars? :confused:

Its stated 3 stars. FuramaXclusive Sukhumvit

Hmm i wasnt informed to download the app tho

[PrcLust]

Understand the morchana app is only for show at airport. No one use or care once you leave the airport

[aphrodisia]

Contacted the hospital and the admin told me the nurse from the hospital informed that i did my test at the hotel and not there wth gg

[aphrodisia]

did you tell them you did the drive through? :confused: 5555 i think the hospital admin don't understand you is it? 55555

Maybe they asking you check with hotel. :p jai yen yen and wait for hotel inform you hopefully.

I did tell them about my airport transfer van driving to the tent outside the hospital to take the PCR. Well they did help me check and the result wasnt out as at 7.15pm. Hopefully will be out by today man

[aphrodisia]

Wish you good luck. :) hopefully by 8-9pm result out.

I called recep at 7pm and the said results are out. Service sibei cui need to self service ask 😂

[sniper968]

Discount it at your own risk and this is the one that hold me from coming to Thailand. You can mitigate such risk by staying in 5 star or well know hotel chain and because I can mitigate such risk, I go Thailand. I double check by self testing on my Day 1 after check in.

:D

Hi Excalibur. I am booking into a 5 star hotel when I arrive in Phuket but they say if my PCR test fails - I will be sent to a quarantine hotel or hospital.

So how does booking a 5 star hotel help?

[hellothis555]

Hi Excalibur. I am booking into a 5 star hotel when I arrive in Phuket but they say if my PCR test fails - I will be sent to a quarantine hotel or hospital.


Yes, in BKK airport, they will asked u to sign a form stating that if u are covid suspected, u will be quarantined between 7-10 days.

[countryman]

Yes, in BKK airport, they will asked u to sign a form stating that if u are covid suspected, u will be quarantined between 7-10 days.

Better to do a self ART home on your departure day or night before..

[hellothis555]

Better to do a self ART home on your departure day or night before..

Whether will u hit the jackpot, is purely lucky or unlucky....
I was covided so chance of getting another covid is lowered. :D Thus I travel.

Test kit is easily available, just test anytime u feel like and especially u start to feel not right. 3 basic symptoms, cough, throat itchy, fever.

Covid timeline for me,
Day 1 n 2 itchy throat, ART negative.
Day 3, slight fever, ART positive.
Day 4, high fever and painful throat.
Day 5, painful throat.
Day 6, back to norm but started coughing.

From above, I suffered 2 days, mainly due to throat. It was the worst sore throat I had in my entire life.

[hellothis555]

You got it while at home or overseas? :confused:

Got it in the mighty country, SG.

[F-boy]

Guess no one really cares :D 55555 You can try check with reception at 6pm or 8pm see if got your test result back. :) Heard before in some cases they received guest results but didn't inform guest till certain timing. Maybe they mass update or what.

i don't know where i get the impression that the cut off time is 8pm for some places to get same day result. :confused:

Anyway seem like stay 5 stars do have its perks in terms of guest service. :p
They delay the timing coz they want you to subscribe to express service
Extra 2000-6000baht depending

[ZanShen]

They delay the timing coz they want you to subscribe to express service
Extra 2000-6000baht depending

6000B? :eek: Seriously? That's a lot...I can bang thrice :D The hotel quoted me 2500B.

[ZanShen]

So yours is eventually out that night because of the express. Did you paid before arrival or after arrival? :confused:

After arrival. The hotel took the money but returned me. This is because they said too late to request after they checked.

[F-boy]

6000B? :eek: Seriously? That's a lot...I can bang thrice :D The hotel quoted me 2500B.

I request on site after the swab at the hospital in Pattaya and was quoted 6k

Express 2-4hrs
Non express 8 -12 hrs

[F-boy]

Note also delays due to ‘retest’
In a group but some cleared and others not cleared
Ask them and they said due to restest
Eventually those results came 4-5 hrs later

[Jking]

if i apply thailand pass on 1 april and my flight is on 5 april noon, is it possible to get it approved on time?

[Jking]

ok no problem, i would just plan to go on 7th apr then to avoid surprise that i havent rec my thailand pass.
anyway can i check if the ktv/soapy massage/black cavier are open? my travelling is during the midst of their songkrang worry may not have much action during this period

[F-boy]

It's a tough question. :D No one here working at Thai immigration to ensure they don't slack at work. :p 5555

Got my Thailand pass in less than 24hrs
Of course you need to buffer for resubmission just in case

[F-boy]

ok no problem, i would just plan to go on 7th apr then to avoid surprise that i havent rec my thailand pass.
anyway can i check if the ktv/soapy massage/black cavier are open? my travelling is during the midst of their songkrang worry may not have much action during this period

KTVs and big soapy are not open
Undertable ktv have and small soapy

[ZanShen]

ok no problem, i would just plan to go on 7th apr then to avoid surprise

If you have not firmed up your flight and hotel bookings, I suggest you give yourself 2 weeks.

[Jking]

If you have not firmed up your flight and hotel bookings, I suggest you give yourself 2 weeks.

thanks already booked and submitted my thailand pass. pray that it gg to get approve soon

[congyin]

for me it just took 2 days (over the weekend somemore) to get thailand pass approved

[belzybob]

for me it just took 2 days (over the weekend somemore) to get thailand pass approved

Applied for the Thaipass in the morning and confirmed same night.
Make sure that you have printed copies of everything required for entry at the airport as showing phone copies is not currently accepted.

[Jking]

me a little worried, travelling in 4 days time but still not approve yet. i applied yesterday one

[ZanShen]

thanks already booked and submitted my thailand pass. pray that it gg to get approve soon
You will panic when you are about to fly and yet to receive the approval :D

[Jking]

You will panic when you are about to fly and yet to receive the approval :D
received it today. exactly 24hrs later when first applied

[kslogic]

received it today. exactly 24hrs later when first applied

Pre departure PCR test in SG is not required by Thailand side upon arrival in Thailand, but is it required by our VTL Airlines when leaving SG? I am not so clear about this requirement.

[Jking]

Pre departure PCR test in SG is not required by Thailand side upon arrival in Thailand, but is it required by our VTL Airlines when leaving SG? I am not so clear about this requirement.

not required. it is specifically stated in SIA website that it is only applicable till 31 Mar 22

Negative Covid-19 RT-PCR medical certificate issued no more than 72 hours before the scheduled time of departure of the flight, if aged 6 and above (Applicable until 31 March 2022)

[kslogic]

not required. it is specifically stated in SIA website that it is only applicable till 31 Mar 22

Negative Covid-19 RT-PCR medical certificate issued no more than 72 hours before the scheduled time of departure of the flight, if aged 6 and above (Applicable until 31 March 2022)

Kam sia :)

[ZanShen]

received it today. exactly 24hrs later when first applied
Awesome! Now your adventures starts :)

[F-boy]

The hotels for PCR test/ airport pickup charges anything from $120-$200 addition on top of the room.
Any good recommendations and if in a group the transport should be cheaper right since they dun need one vehicle for each guest

[pearx]

Given a choice would you guys reach early morning so that there’s a chance you guys can explore at night or come late afternoon and go out the next day?

[aphrodisia]

OK! Have fun tonight. :D If you happy can come back later here tonight to share your 1 night in bkk anything special.

Just came back from my 10 days trip sian :( anyway here is what happened for me for my trip.

26 Mar 2022

After clearing immigration at BKK airport, they didnt ask me to download the Morchana app and just went down to the main area and turn left where all the hotel reps were there to wait for pickup. Luckily for me i did not have to wait for my rep maybe because there was long queue when i was queueing for passport to be chopped.

Entered the pickup van and went to Bangpakok 9 hospital drive thru at around 12.36pm for the RT-PCR test. Seems like they are not really strict with it because they only poked my left nose once and thats it and gave me the ART kit and asked me to do so on Day 5.

Reached hotel at around 1pm and was in line waiting to be checked in to the quarantine room. When it was my turn, i asked if they could expedite my results as i have a flight the following morning at 7.30am and the recep told me its up to the hospital and not them so maybe i cant get the results in time and it made me panicked damn.

Checked into the room and was watching TV + playing my phone game to past time until around 5pm i emailed the hospital to ask if they could get the results for me earlier and they said i did my test in the hotel and not there wtf. However, they replied that they would try to get my results asap due to my morning flight. Email came in at 6pm stating that the admin needs to knock off from work and last checked the results were still not out.

At 7pm, i called the hotel recep to ask and thank god the results were out already but they didnt inform me beforehand. Also, after the results are out we actually can have guests join the room but they did not tell me that so i double booked the hotel for nothing but oh wells.

Day 5 did my ART test but they didnt give me any link to upload the test results.

For the PDT, went to medconsult to do so. its at level 3 of the RQ club (smaller road on the opposite of the building). When you are there, there are 2 counters (left for the admin & right for the payment), go to the left one straight and let them know you have made an appointment at the timing already if not you will be asked to sit at the waiting area to be called. Print out the documents of your info and head to the right counter for payment (500 baht) and go to the respective room to do ART. Results out within 5mins and cleared.

Hopefully they can change the PCR test to ART because the wait is not fun at all hahaha

[ZanShen]

The hotels for PCR test/ airport pickup charges anything from $120-$200 addition on top of the room.
Any good recommendations and if in a group the transport should be cheaper right since they dun need one vehicle for each guest

It is one guest per vehicle.

[ZanShen]

Just came back from my 10 days trip sian :( anyway here is what happened for me for my trip.

26 Mar 2022

For the PDT, went to medconsult to do so. its at level 3 of the RQ club (smaller road on the opposite of the building). When you are there, there are 2 counters (left for the admin & right for the payment), go to the left one straight and let them know you have made an appointment at the timing already if not you will be asked to sit at the waiting area to be called. Print out the documents of your info and head to the right counter for payment (500 baht) and go to the respective room to do ART. Results out within 5mins and cleared.


This is new to me. What's PDT?

[aphrodisia]

So you next morning flight is actually domestic thai flight? :confused: I keep thinking its international 5555.

Yes i went to surat thani for their floating resort 😁

[aphrodisia]

This is new to me. What's PDT?

Its the pre-departure test of either PCR/ART you need to do 48 hrs before your flight back to SG. Oh yes and when you arrived back SG, you will need to do the E-declaration health travel form which just takes about few mins to complete

[serav1]

Hi Bros, can I check if currently at thailand immigrations do they grant you 2 months stay duration or 1 month? I'm planning a 4-5 weeks stay in BKK in August and wondering if I have to limit to within 30 days.

[hellothis555]

Hi Bros, can I check if currently at thailand immigrations do they grant you 2 months stay duration or 1 month? I'm planning a 4-5 weeks stay in BKK in August and wondering if I have to limit to within 30 days.

SG passport? 30 days. Google for it or check MFA website for details.

[TMNT99]

Hi Bros, can I check if currently at thailand immigrations do they grant you 2 months stay duration or 1 month? I'm planning a 4-5 weeks stay in BKK in August and wondering if I have to limit to within 30 days.

Apply for a 60 days tourist visa from Thai Embassy Singapore. It not difficult.

[aphrodisia]

Now i am getting a clearer picture of what possibly going on. :o

You went to meet a thai girl. :confused: So your plan to exit quarantine that night is not go chiong like most bros but date someone. :D :confused:

I guess your date end up sleeping with you that night anyway. :D



So did you enjoy the floating resort? :confused:

Haha its my gf turned fiancee because my goal of the trip is to actually propose to her.
Yes the floating resort is nice with the scenery but its damn deep in. You can google "500 rai floating resort" Took a speed boat from khaosok national park about 1hr+ and theres no signal there, with the resprt charging 350 baht/hr for wifi ��

Anyway i think the clubs have not opened yet and most shops close by midnight

[fallen11]

Hi Bros, can I check if currently at thailand immigrations do they grant you 2 months stay duration or 1 month? I'm planning a 4-5 weeks stay in BKK in August and wondering if I have to limit to within 30 days.

30 day visa free
want > 30 day, go thai embassy apply tourist visa
have 60 day and 90 day ones.
Application is free.
But make sure you have all the necessary documents (hard copy) when going down to apply, else you'll be turned back. Takes 1-2 working days to approve. Need to go down again to collect back your passport.

[F-boy]

Its the pre-departure test of either PCR/ART you need to do 48 hrs before your flight back to SG. Oh yes and when you arrived back SG, you will need to do the E-declaration health travel form which just takes about few mins to complete
Dun need this already right? Sg already open up

[F-boy]

Where to do cheapest PDT back to Sg?

[Masakarius]

May I ask if you have any link for Insurance coverage ?

[serav1]

SG passport? 30 days. Google for it or check MFA website for details.

Apply for a 60 days tourist visa from Thai Embassy Singapore. It not difficult.

30 day visa free
want > 30 day, go thai embassy apply tourist visa
have 60 day and 90 day ones.


thanks bros for the clarification!

[hellothis555]

30 day visa free
want > 30 day, go thai embassy apply tourist visa
have 60 day and 90 day ones.
Application is free.
But make sure you have all the necessary documents (hard copy) when going down to apply, else you'll be turned back. Takes 1-2 working days to approve. Need to go down again to collect back your passport.

Since years ago, application is done online. U need to register an account, upload all required docs and apply the type of visa. After, u can check application status online.

Once "approved", print all docs and go down to embassy to submit the hard copy docs and passport. On the spot, they will pass u a slip and a date to go back to collect your passport, not 1-2 days.

The above are for S'porean and applying in Thai embassy SG. Chok dee.

[wildface]

Hi bros, I'm actually quite confuse when I was sourcing a hotel to stay in Bangkok. I know we have to book hotel under SHA+ but the hotel also have package under "Test and Go". So does that means I have to book this " Test and Go" package?

[hellothis555]

Hi bros, I'm actually quite confuse when I was sourcing a hotel to stay in Bangkok. I know we have to book hotel under SHA+ but the hotel also have package under "Test and Go". So does that means I have to book this " Test and Go" package?

SHA+ does not equate to "PCR and airport pick up".

When book hotel room, u need check whether the package includes PCR and pick up from airport. It will state somewhere on the website or before u pay.

[wildface]

SHA+ does not equate to "PCR and airport pick up".

When book hotel room, u need check whether the package includes PCR and pick up from airport. It will state somewhere on the website or before u pay.

I see.. so basically if it's not included, I have to arrange with hotel separately with additional cost of around 2000 baht for PCR and airport pick up?

[fallen11]

Since years ago, application is done online. U need to register an account, upload all required docs and apply the type of visa. After, u can check application status online.

Once "approved", print all docs and go down to embassy to submit the hard copy docs and passport. On the spot, they will pass u a slip and a date to go back to collect your passport, not 1-2 days.

The above are for S'porean and applying in Thai embassy SG. Chok dee.

ya online. And when i applied end of last year, their online system went offline for 2 years already :D
Can check their website. if cant apply online still, need to go the offline way

[hellothis555]

ya online. And when i applied end of last year, their online system went offline for 2 years already :D
Can check their website. if cant apply online still, need to go the offline way

U might use the wrong link. I just login in and checked, my last successful online application was 26-11-2021. No problem for new application as of now.

[hellothis555]

I see.. so basically if it's not included, I have to arrange with hotel separately with additional cost of around 2000 baht for PCR and airport pick up?

Not firm on 2000thb. If available, the hotel will list the service online.

[aphrodisia]

Dun need this already right? Sg already open up

Pre-departure test is still needed by SG 48hrs before flying back

[aphrodisia]

Where to do cheapest PDT back to Sg?

i went to medconsult as recommended by bros here its 500 baht paid over at the counter when you reach there

[F-boy]

Not firm on 2000thb. If available, the hotel will list the service online.

It’s more than 2k
Cheapest cost around 160 sgd for a normally $20 room so the loading is 140. There are some go as much as 200

[F-boy]

i went to medconsult as recommended by bros here its 500 baht paid over at the counter when you reach there

Wow the last time I went to Banramgrud hospital which was near my hotel and it cost me 2800!!!

[aphrodisia]

May I ask if you have any link for Insurance coverage ?

i used this and paid about $37 for my 10 days trip which covered other normal travel insurance + covid coverage

https://changiassure.changirecommends.com/

[aphrodisia]

Wow the last time I went to Banramgrud hospital which was near my hotel and it cost me 2800!!!

maybe the time you went the requirement was still PCR. When i travel they already allowed professionally taken ART thus its cheaper

[ZanShen]

Its the pre-departure test of either PCR/ART you need to do 48 hrs before your flight back to SG. Oh yes and when you arrived back SG, you will need to do the E-declaration health travel form which just takes about few mins to complete

I came back last week. Was made to do a ART at the airport before check in. Paid 250B and waited for 10 mins for the result.

[F-boy]

I came back last week. Was made to do a ART at the airport before check in. Paid 250B and waited for 10 mins for the result.

Pls kaiseow where exactly and any links to pre book etc
Thanks
Can save will save

[F-boy]

maybe the time you went the requirement was still PCR. When i travel they already allowed professionally taken ART thus its cheaper
It was ART they call it ATK
The PCR costs 5k

[Giansex]

It was ART they call it ATK
The PCR costs 5k

Bro can advise if we need buy 2 insurance..to cover COVID hospital in BKK and normal travel insurance

[hellothis555]

Bro can advise if we need buy 2 insurance..to cover COVID hospital in BKK and normal travel insurance

If u r young and healthy and only concern is quarantine cost then just buy those that provide this from SG as for Thai insurance, the last I checked months ago, only 1 insurance covers quarantine.

Take the below as est. cost of quarantine in hospital. U will need about SGD 1000-4000 cash or credit card for this then claim back from insurance. If u do not have $4000 available credit in your credit card then better postpone your trip.

7 nights 10 nights 14 nights
Deluxe Room 24,500 35,000 49,000
Superior Room 49,000 70,000 98,000

If u think u will get into seriously ill or bad accident, operation, coma then get 1 high premium insurance in Thailand for ease of paper work, etc.

[F-boy]

Bro can advise if we need buy 2 insurance..to cover COVID hospital in BKK and normal travel insurance

The Thailand pass insurance is mandatory
Just buy another travel one that covers quarrantine as bro said.
Now covid more uncertainties. The one I got covered in case can’t travel due to Kena covid. At least can’t go can get compensated 🤣

[fallen11]

ya online. And when i applied end of last year, their online system went offline for 2 years already :D
Can check their website. if cant apply online still, need to go the offline way

maybe they fixed it
applied about 1 month earlier than you

[hellothis555]

maybe they fixed it
applied about 1 month earlier than you

Maybe... I every yr also renew yearly visa in SG embassy. I dun renew in Thailand cause too many ppl and complicated :D

[wildface]

Not firm on 2000thb. If available, the hotel will list the service online.

Ok.. Thanks bro for the clarification

[ZanShen]

Pls kaiseow where exactly and any links to pre book etc
Thanks
Can save will save

No need to pre-book. It is situated right inside the airport - the place where we usually take a taxi after we touched down at Suvarnabhumi airport during the pre covid time.

[wildface]

No need to pre-book. It is situated right inside the airport - the place where we usually take a taxi after we touched down at Suvarnabhumi airport during the pre covid time.

Bro, this is the pre-departure test for the return trip?

[lols123]

hope they remove the PCR test next week
https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2291842/rt-pcr-tests-may-be-axed

[ZanShen]

Bro, this is the pre-departure test for the return trip?

That's correct

[hellothis555]

hope they remove the PCR test next week
https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2291842/rt-pcr-tests-may-be-axed

Easiest will be 1st May.

[ExcaliburSG]

Easiest will be 1st May.

That is what I heard from latest news. Finally the detachment of Covid testing from hotel and the wasted 1st night. Testing for ATK at the airport is independent and you will be tested positive only if you are infected. No more 'vested interest'.
:D

So far to what I know there is only one SIN insurance that provide cashless payment for inpatient in Thailand. Buying insurance is always recommended however young, strong, fit or whatever positive traits. You can never discount accident who is beyond anyone control however super fit and strong you are.
The choice of course is yours.

[ExcaliburSG]

No need to pre-book. It is situated right inside the airport - the place where we usually take a taxi after we touched down at Suvarnabhumi airport during the pre covid time.

This one if 500 or 550. Another is 250 unless the price is changed. My previous departure test is 250 baht :)

This will be the one I will be using for all Thai trip until they removed test completely.

[fallen11]

hope they remove the PCR test next week
https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2291842/rt-pcr-tests-may-be-axed

the earliest would still be 1 May.
even now its not confirmed. They wanna monitor the infection rate post songkran first, then decide.
If its acceptable, its 1 May. If not, then 1 May would be postponed.

[hellothis555]

the earliest would still be 1 May.
even now its not confirmed. They wanna monitor the infection rate post songkran first, then decide.
If its acceptable, its 1 May. If not, then 1 May would be postponed.

After Songkran, no. will spike up, no brainer :D As for opening up, they have no choice, ministers pockets are hurting too. They will open up latest by end of May else tourists are heading Vietnam, Cambodia, etc.

[fallen11]

After Songkran, no. will spike up, no brainer :D

thats a given. is how much they can accept....
anyway i see it, its 1 May.
But even ART on arrival, i wont be returning there. I'd rather take the test pre-arrival.
Reach there already then positive is nightmare. At least positive before i arrive, i can cancel the trip.
covid test as to whatever tests, can never be 100% accurate. Even 99% accuracy, there will be some false positives negatives.
1% of inaccurate test results among 100k tourists = 1000. I dont wannabe any of those 1000.

[hellothis555]

thats a given. is how much they can accept....
anyway i see it, its 1 May.
But even ART on arrival, i wont be returning there. I'd rather take the test pre-arrival.
Reach there already then positive is nightmare. At least positive before i arrive, i can cancel the trip.


Before u fly, u can take ART yourself but this is also stopping u, then as mentioned by u, stay at home. Let the rest enjoy...
If they do away Thaipass, PCR, I will be there monthly.

[fallen11]

Before u fly, u can take ART yourself but this is also stopping u, then as mentioned by u, stay at home. Let the rest enjoy...
If they do away Thaipass, PCR, I will be there monthly.

Yes ART. but i have proven to myself that ART is not effective.
During the time i was down with covid, i tested ART several times. None came back positive. PCR was positive for 2 times i got tested.
I know its covid cause i got the same list of symptoms as described in all the news, including a very unique symptom....

Yup, just waiting for them to do away with tests and thai pass.:)

[ZanShen]

covid test as to whatever tests, can never be 100% accurate. Even 99% accuracy, there will be some false positives negatives.
1% of inaccurate test results among 100k tourists = 1000. I dont wannabe any of those 1000.
Our ART's Sensitivity rate is 82 percent. I would say is fairly high. Unless not being done correctly.

[overboard]

ARTs sold in Singapore have quite high accuracy. Between 82% to 98% sensitivity (high sensitivity means less false negatives).

The case where BOTH occasions the ART is negative suggest one is doing wrongly.

Even if you display symptoms, and the first ART is negative, just do a 2nd one a day later. Because statistically, 95% sensitivity with another 95% sensitivity means extremely low chance of false negatives.

[F-boy]

Our ART's Sensitivity rate is 82 percent. I would say is fairly high. Unless not being done correctly.

Our art is self done one
Thailand art they dig your nose like PCR
Thai should be more accurate

[aphrodisia]

Our art is self done one
Thailand art they dig your nose like PCR
Thai should be more accurate

But they just poke 1 side of the nose and take out, when go in didnt turn at all also even their PCR also the same. Day 5 ART also no link given to upload results so i feel they do it for the motion

[hellothis555]

But they just poke 1 side of the nose and take out, when go in didnt turn at all also even their PCR also the same. Day 5 ART also no link given to upload results so i feel they do it for the motion

Welcome to Thailand.... :D