A thought on the dating scene

[frovu]

So... I'm back on the dating scene.

A girl sent me a request on Kaki and we connected on Telegram.

After chatting for a few days, I asked her for coffee or something, or a date, on one of the chats. The meetup was to be on a Saturday, which was a week or two ago.
She didn't respond to anything, and then, on the Friday evening before the meetup, she suddenly popped up to say, oh, she had to go to a meeting the next day.

So, fine. Whenever she chats, it's like she's busy doing something.

After a while, with the impression of me getting ignored, I just deleted her chats and contact. This happened one, or two, up to three weeks ago.

Today, she suddenly popped up on my chat, and asked how I'm doing. After I responded with a query, she said we'll be meeting up soon. I promptly told her I'm no longer interested in a meetup, wished her a great life, and deleted the entire chat.

If people are not interested in a date, they should straight away answer no. If people are interested in a date, but they can't do it on the proposed date itself, they should offer an alternative. Not providing any alternative, and not saying anything, is a sign of disinterest.

They shouldn't expect to be getting a date back if they weren't responsive.

[JacqueMerlin]

So... I'm back on the dating scene.

A girl sent me a request on Kaki and we connected on Telegram.

After chatting for a few days, I asked her for coffee or something, or a date, on one of the chats. The meetup was to be on a Saturday.
She didn't respond to anything, and then, on the Friday evening, she suddenly popped up to say, oh, she had to go to a meeting the next day.

So, fine. Whenever she chats, it's like she's busy doing something.

After a while, with the impression of me getting ignored, I just deleted her chats and contact, so that I won't be able to contact her again. This happened one, or two, up to three weeks ago.

Today, she suddenly popped up on my chat, and asked how I'm doing. After I responded with a query, she said we'll be meeting up soon. I promptly told her I'm no longer interested in a meetup, wished her a great life, and deleted the entire chat.

If people are not interested in a date, they should straight away answer no. If people are interested in a date, but they can't do it on the proposed date itself, they should offer an alternative. Not providing any alternative, and not saying anything, is a sign of disinterest.

They shouldn't expect to be getting a date back if they weren't responsive.

Agreed. She had an alternative which didn't turn out well so you as her back up plan came up as a solution.

You did the right thing and well to preserve your dignity.

[unsung80]

U military officer? Everything must report to you meh? Why so sour about it?

[frovu]

Agreed. She had an alternative which didn't turn out well so you as her back up plan came up as a solution.


Ok, seems like I didn't communicate the circumstances or the story well here.

Her meetup which clashed with my proposed meetup was last week or two weeks ago.

So, no, it's not that my meetup was an alternative.

She simply didn't say yes, or say no.

[frovu]

U military officer? Everything must report to you meh? Why so sour about it?

Lol.

If someone asks you a question, there's 2 scenarios. Either answer y/n, or ignore.

She chose to ignore my question.

So, like other people sharing a sex story, I'm just sharing a dating/non-dating story.

[I Love Boobs]

U military officer? Everything must report to you meh? Why so sour about it?

Agreed. Come here and vent for what?

[LordVader]

Agreed. Come here and vent for what?

I think this is just sharing of his encounter?

[I Love Boobs]

I think this is just sharing of his encounter?

Simi encounter?
Never even met, what more fuck...

[Jamed]

what if she got a valid reasons for postponing - due to family etc... aiyo these days so harsh harsh

[ronaldaceice]

if she really interested she would have gave an alternative date

[ET]

If it is too good to be true it is SCAM

[unsung80]

what if she got a valid reasons for postponing - due to family etc... aiyo these days so harsh harsh

That's what I thought so too, in the end she did msg you again but u decide not to follow up. Fine that's your choice, but u did not gain anything in the end. She will just move on next, and so you stuck here complaining to us?

[TheIdesOfMarch]

That's what I thought so too, in the end she did msg you again but u decide not to follow up. Fine that's your choice, but u did not gain anything in the end. She will just move on next, and so you stuck here complaining to us?

He's not complaining. He's sharing. He's not saying hurr durr girl reject him because he NMNHNLM.

In fact, full credit to him, he acts in a way many SG guys will never be able to act. So many of us act like women are born on pedestals and we rush to respond and meet the whims and fancies of women whenever they ask something of us or show us attention at their time of choosing. They're not catches. They're human like us too. And if they act like we men are options for them then they definitely should not be the priority for us either.

Nowadays dating in SG is so hard I rather spend my money on commercial sex with escorts and the like. I ironically get more clarity and straightforwardness with paid women than I do with normal SG women looking to date/hookup/marry.

[hi2u]

I agree with you that it is pretty turned off. Dating apps were not like that in the past. I remember chatting up and meeting up a few girls from Tinder (nothing happened btw).
But these days, people just MIA. Why use dating apps when not responsive? lol I find it funny as well.

So... I'm back on the dating scene.

A girl sent me a request on Kaki and we connected on Telegram.

After chatting for a few days, I asked her for coffee or something, or a date, on one of the chats. The meetup was to be on a Saturday, which was a week or two ago.
She didn't respond to anything, and then, on the Friday evening before the meetup, she suddenly popped up to say, oh, she had to go to a meeting the next day.

So, fine. Whenever she chats, it's like she's busy doing something.

After a while, with the impression of me getting ignored, I just deleted her chats and contact. This happened one, or two, up to three weeks ago.

Today, she suddenly popped up on my chat, and asked how I'm doing. After I responded with a query, she said we'll be meeting up soon. I promptly told her I'm no longer interested in a meetup, wished her a great life, and deleted the entire chat.

If people are not interested in a date, they should straight away answer no. If people are interested in a date, but they can't do it on the proposed date itself, they should offer an alternative. Not providing any alternative, and not saying anything, is a sign of disinterest.

They shouldn't expect to be getting a date back if they weren't responsive.

[frovu]

He's not complaining. He's sharing. He's not saying hurr durr girl reject him because he NMNHNLM.

In fact, full credit to him, he acts in a way many SG guys will never be able to act.

Thank you for recognizing what I'm sharing here. :)

[frovu]

I agree with you that it is pretty turned off.

I'm just sharing my encounter, not saying it's a turn off. :)

Even when meeting up with bros, if you ask a bro to meet up, if a bro can't meet up, usually, they'll say something like today, tomorrow cannot. Next week ok?

[garconCornee]

Probably using dating apps to get IG followers or YT subscribers. They do reply but make no commitment to meet up/date, enough to bait you into being curious about them. They gained a follower. Win-win for them. Lol

I agree with you that it is pretty turned off. Dating apps were not like that in the past. I remember chatting up and meeting up a few girls from Tinder (nothing happened btw).
But these days, people just MIA. Why use dating apps when not responsive? lol I find it funny as well.

[frovu]

Probably using dating apps to get IG followers or YT subscribers. They do reply but make no commitment to meet up/date

Actually, it was a social app :), and no, she didn't use it to get IG/YT subscriber/follower.

[sammy124]

Frustrating when have this kind of things.

Should be a common courtesy to make everything clear and concise.

[TheIdesOfMarch]

I agree with you that it is pretty turned off. Dating apps were not like that in the past. I remember chatting up and meeting up a few girls from Tinder (nothing happened btw).
But these days, people just MIA. Why use dating apps when not responsive? lol I find it funny as well.

Dating apps in sg seem far less for actual dating and more for ego boosting. And I say this applying to both guys and girls alike.

Damn hard to find a straightforward and open girl nowadays. Don't know where they are all hiding.

[JacqueMerlin]

Ok, seems like I didn't communicate the circumstances or the story well here.

Her meetup which clashed with my proposed meetup was last week or two weeks ago.

So, no, it's not that my meetup was an alternative.

She simply didn't say yes, or say no.

No, I think it's clear as daylight she was playing a juggling game of options. You were in a lower priority but got promoted when her higher priority didn't work out.

[thickskin33]

I never date any girl after i reach 30 as it is just a bloody waste of time.

I dated a singaporean lady who was a second upper honors.
After dating for 3 months she started to show her illness.

She lose her virgnity to a guy and that guy dump her straight after sex.

Every time we had a slight disagreement she will bawl in restaurant guys are the same only want sex.

I never even held her hands. Finally i lose control and said you go and scold that man who took your virginity.
She hesistated and you can see fear in her eyes i guess that man was abusive or had her nudes. I deleted her after that. Heard she got married i pity that man who had to scoop that shit.

Dating is a waste of time and money in this age.

[loneyheart]

Unless pre communication sound good
If not meet up may not end up in bed
No gain no lost
Move on :)

[coypredator]

Interestingly, I thought this was a rather refreshing post.

Curious to know if TS would do the same if the girl was hot or if you had feelings for her?

[dwog1]

I signed up just to comment on this. Totally agree.. Girls in sg waiting to settle down only look at finances. Ugly and less qualified girls have to work harder. Prettyy girls act like primma donna even though they have nothing to offer.

Try dating the good Thai ladies, they are a breath of fresh air. SG ladies are in an artificial market.

[ilovepantyhose]

sharing an encounter which happened a long time ago: i was chatting with this girl and things got to a point where i asked her out, she agreed and a date was set. on that day itself, she messaged to cancel, so i LLST. some time later, i came across this quote: "don't let people become a priority in your life when you are just an option in theirs", can imagine the feels siah. my guess is the girl was just looking around, the guy deemed her best option got prioritised and she flaked on the others, if the best option guy isn't available, she would go for the next best option/next guy on her standby list

thus my SOP when it comes to meetup/dating: if the girl cancels on you, but apologises/give reason, and tries to rearrange on another day, give her the benefit of the doubt that something really cropped up. but if she cancels but don't even bother to apologise/rearrange, just move on lah, why huan lo? both parties gotta put in effort, if its only one party doing all the work, don't think it will work out in the long run

[catlord]

Dating apps in sg seem far less for actual dating and more for ego boosting. And I say this applying to both guys and girls alike.

Damn hard to find a straightforward and open girl nowadays. Don't know where they are all hiding.

Yeah. Dating in SG has become a shit show. At least in online dating. It wasn't good in the first place but after covid it really got worse. My guess is less girls are on these apps now cos of covid, but guys are still horny so they're still on there. There were already more girls than guys on apps before covid, but now after covid it's even more imbalanced. Girls (even the fat ones) now have hundreds of guys messaging them every week and they can choose the best of the best.

Just earlier this year I was still able to get normal looking girls with little trouble. Sometimes there were hot ones too. It really helped that there were many foreign girls in SG. But now I get much less results, and they're all fat. My friend who's shorter and worse looking than me, before covid he still could get decent hookups maybe once in 2 months. But now he gets absolutely nothing, not even the fat ones. Online dating in SG currently is quite depressing. It's much harder now to get normal looking girls and if you want action you probably have to swallow your dignity and lower your standards. Can't even go GL anymore.

I think the scene will recover but it will take time. My guess is we will be able to travel out before that happens. As soon as they allow travel to Taiwan or Manila or Tokyo, I'll be the first out the door.

[willroyce]

I have been through this same situation when i matched a girl from Sugarbook.com when i asked her out for dinner and suddenly MIA for 2 weeks and than come back saying "oh i my phone was giving issues" for 2 weeks

[willroyce]

I signed up just to comment on this. Totally agree.. Girls in sg waiting to settle down only look at finances. Ugly and less qualified girls have to work harder. Prettyy girls act like primma donna even though they have nothing to offer.

Try dating the good Thai ladies, they are a breath of fresh air. SG ladies are in an artificial market.

I agree bro this is very true

[TheIdesOfMarch]

I signed up just to comment on this. Totally agree.. Girls in sg waiting to settle down only look at finances. Ugly and less qualified girls have to work harder. Prettyy girls act like primma donna even though they have nothing to offer.

Try dating the good Thai ladies, they are a breath of fresh air. SG ladies are in an artificial market.

Totally agree and get your point.

If you're someone who's studied or worked abroad, and dated girls of other nationalities (not even regional Asians like Thais or Viets) you'll find yourself really hard pressed to be impressed by the majority of SG girls here. A lot of them talk the talk about equality and what they seek in a partner, but many of them don't actually believe in putting in their fair share of effort, of treating guys right, or be realistic about their looks and what they're prepared to do in bed (may as well say this since we're in SBF).

When I tell my overseas western friends from uni how the dating scene is like in Singapore and how girls usually act/what expectations they hold, the common question I get asked is "why do sg guys put up with that kinda shit?". Says a lot.

[catlord]

I totally agree on all these points, but I urge bros here to not blame the girls here too much. The attitudes of girls are after all a product of their environment.

There are many factors which make girls not so sexual in SG:
- The culture in SG is very conservative
- Land is scarce, most single people don't have their own place, so there's no hookup culture
- Living expenses are super high. Girls worry about their income more than anything
- Girls are busy in SG. Hobbies, family & friends, appointments etc
- Even the weather, it's hot. You walk outside you feel sticky, not sexy
- Plus if you meet girls mainly from online, of course they'll be stuck up. Girls in SG have crazy amounts of options online, of course they'll be stuck up. If guys have unlimited options like girls they'll be stuck up too. You gotta be prepared to deal with stuck up girls if you do online. If you want better attitudes then meet girls in person, the girls who I've got from real life have much better attitudes than from online

Girls are a product of their environment. It's not that girls in SG inherently suck, but it's the environment that sucks. Even foreign girls, in my experience the longer they've been in SG, the less open and more stuck up they become. Blame the environment, not the girls. When we travel overseas, there are so many factors that make it easier for us to get girls, not just the girls themselves. The culture is more open, we probably have our own place overseas, male competition is weak (especially in poorer countries) so we become top dog (much like angmoh in SG), girls overseas have nothing to do and are bored out of their minds, even the cooler weather is sexy.

[JacqueMerlin]

Totally agree and get your point.

If you're someone who's studied or worked abroad, and dated girls of other nationalities (not even regional Asians like Thais or Viets) you'll find yourself really hard pressed to be impressed by the majority of SG girls here. A lot of them talk the talk about equality and what they seek in a partner, but many of them don't actually believe in putting in their fair share of effort, of treating guys right, or be realistic about their looks and what they're prepared to do in bed (may as well say this since we're in SBF).

When I tell my overseas western friends from uni how the dating scene is like in Singapore and how girls usually act/what expectations they hold, the common question I get asked is "why do sg guys put up with that kinda shit?". Says a lot.

There are plenty of white knights who would rather plough their dignity with the demands of SG girls than to do the right thing by looking further.

[FrostWolfRider]

Haven't really had the chance to date/go out with SG girls, previously mostly PRC, MY and sometimes JP/KR ones. Recently got matched to one, that will flake/change place and timing last minute. This one will initially say "let me plan", and then only make restaurant reservations last minute and made repeated logistical mess out of it, wasting time and money. All of her plans also involve expensive restaurants that are fine dining class or close, with no initiative to at least attempt to pay for her own share. First date I would probably get it, but after a few times all high class restaurant.... Not sure if she's the exception or SG girls expect first class treatment/doting. Probably avoid SG girls now..

[vendomy8282]

if she really interested she would have gave an alternative date

[BushTracker]

Haha I wonder what the ladies say of you guys? Maybe they also have lots of complains. :D

I say you guys because i'm an old man no longer in the game.

[gaiusque]

I’d love to hear feedback from any SG ladies too. I’m sure they have their own set of complaints, which is fair game IMHO.

With that said, I do mildly agree that there are a subset of (SG) girls/ladies who aren’t exactly great to date because of their level of materialism. Personally, I get turned off by ladies that are decked with branded goods and caked with make-up. Some guys may like that, but no walking billboard for me kthxbai :p


Haha I wonder what the ladies say of you guys? Maybe they also have lots of complains. :D

I say you guys because i'm an old man no longer in the game.

[minnylo]

dating online is common nowadays

[basara_evil]

I’d love to hear feedback from any SG ladies too. I’m sure they have their own set of complaints, which is fair game IMHO.

With that said, I do mildly agree that there are a subset of (SG) girls/ladies who aren’t exactly great to date because of their level of materialism. Personally, I get turned off by ladies that are decked with branded goods and caked with make-up. Some guys may like that, but no walking billboard for me kthxbai :p

i know quite a few. most of their complains are very similar, mainly

- only want sex, won't spend time on anything else. not even a cup of coffee.

- want no string attached yet want to be control freak.

- small white face (chinese will understand)

- getting out of shape themselves yet want the girl to be slim or sexy

i feel one have to be clear what one wants. FWB is not just about sex. IMO, FWB is someone who you can tell the stuff that you cannot discuss with your other half, beside the physical satisfaction factors

[basara_evil]

- The culture in SG is very conservative
- Land is scarce, most single people don't have their own place, so there's no hookup culture
- Living expenses are super high. Girls worry about their income more than anything
- Girls are busy in SG. Hobbies, family & friends, appointments etc
- Even the weather, it's hot. You walk outside you feel sticky, not sexy
- Plus if you meet girls mainly from online, of course they'll be stuck up. Girls in SG have crazy amounts of options online, of course they'll be stuck up. If guys have unlimited options like girls they'll be stuck up too. You gotta be prepared to deal with stuck up girls if you do online. If you want better attitudes then meet girls in person, the girls who I've got from real life have much better attitudes than from online


sorry, not trying to argue, just my opinion on the points

- The culture in SG is very conservative
actually, not that conservative anymore. 20 years ago, out of 10 girls i hook on dating site, only 2 willing to fuck before marriage. now, 9 of them will do it, AND very likely have done it way younger than me. digital era really wake them up to the "no sex before marriage" bullshit.

- Land is scarce, most single people don't have their own place, so there's no hookup culture
this is true. i agree on this one.

- Living expenses are super high. Girls worry about their income more than anything.
this only happens mostly when the girl are older or looking to settle down.

- Girls are busy in SG. Hobbies, family & friends, appointments etc
this is a poor excuse. a good relationship requires a good balance of other activities outside the bf gf. in fact, if a girl hav no other hobbies and stick to the bf 24/7, it is very terrifying experience. i meet it before, a 17 yr old texting me 500+ msg per day for 3 months. i can't stand it and dump her even tot she's providing me free sex

- Even the weather, it's hot. You walk outside you feel sticky, not sexy
i really dont think weather is a factor

- Plus if you meet girls mainly from online, of course they'll be stuck up.
agree. if they're online looking for serious rs, likely because they already have some sort of issue that makes it hard for them to find a bf in off line situation. maybe ugly, fat, personality issue, etc etc

[gaiusque]

i know quite a few. most of their complains are very similar, mainly

- only want sex, won't spend time on anything else. not even a cup of coffee.

- want no string attached yet want to be control freak.

- small white face (chinese will understand)

- getting out of shape themselves yet want the girl to be slim or sexy

i feel one have to be clear what one wants. FWB is not just about sex. IMO, FWB is someone who you can tell the stuff that you cannot discuss with your other half, beside the physical satisfaction factors

Generally agree. However, the definition of FWB is usually rather narrow, hence the first point that you made rings mostly true.

As for the rest, I’d file those under “human nature”.

[kass]

I totally agree on all these points, but I urge bros here to not blame the girls here too much. The attitudes of girls are after all a product of their environment.

There are many factors which make girls not so sexual in SG:
- The culture in SG is very conservative
- Land is scarce, most single people don't have their own place, so there's no hookup culture
- Living expenses are super high. Girls worry about their income more than anything
- Girls are busy in SG. Hobbies, family & friends, appointments etc
- Even the weather, it's hot. You walk outside you feel sticky, not sexy
- Plus if you meet girls mainly from online, of course they'll be stuck up. Girls in SG have crazy amounts of options online, of course they'll be stuck up. If guys have unlimited options like girls they'll be stuck up too. You gotta be prepared to deal with stuck up girls if you do online. If you want better attitudes then meet girls in person, the girls who I've got from real life have much better attitudes than from online

Girls are a product of their environment. It's not that girls in SG inherently suck, but it's the environment that sucks. Even foreign girls, in my experience the longer they've been in SG, the less open and more stuck up they become. Blame the environment, not the girls. When we travel overseas, there are so many factors that make it easier for us to get girls, not just the girls themselves. The culture is more open, we probably have our own place overseas, male competition is weak (especially in poorer countries) so we become top dog (much like angmoh in SG), girls overseas have nothing to do and are bored out of their minds, even the cooler weather is sexy.

That's a mature and sensible attitude bro, and I respect that.

I agree that girls' attitude is largely a by-product of the environment that they are in.
In a high standard environment such as Singapore, the competition for better jobs, buy a house, wind down and spend more time on hobbies lead to a more self-centred population in general.

When it comes to dating, it is not uncommon to see local guys being despised by the local girls.

Asian girls are seen as top prizes and are snagged up by white guys, while asian guys are undesired by both local and white girls.

One thing that helps to widen our world perspectives is to study or work abroad. Learn about new cultures, ways of life, interact with interesting people.
This will help us to live a more interesting life, raising our social value, sense of purpose.

[I Love Boobs]

That's a mature and sensible attitude bro, and I respect that.

I agree that girls' attitude is largely a by-product of the environment that they are in.
In a high standard environment such as Singapore, the competition for better jobs, buy a house, wind down and spend more time on hobbies lead to a more self-centred population in general.

When it comes to dating, it is not uncommon to see local guys being despised by the local girls.

Asian girls are seen as top prizes and are snagged up by white guys, while asian guys are undesired by both local and white girls.

One thing that helps to widen our world perspectives is to study or work abroad. Learn about new cultures, ways of life, interact with interesting people.
This will help us to live a more interesting life, raising our social value, sense of purpose.

SG is a low standard environment where most of the populace cannot even speak proper English. Or Chinese for that matter.
SG girls are stupid.
The white guys will pump and dump them.

[basara_evil]

SG is a low standard environment where most of the populace cannot even speak proper English. Or Chinese for that matter.
SG girls are stupid.
The white guys will pump and dump them.

don't be silly lah. the reality is, we don care at all what the white guys do with SG girls. we only care that we don have the chance to pump them if they keep going for white guys.

AFTER whatever we do what we want with the girls, the white guys can do whatever they want.

[hokkienme56]

I have been through this same situation when i matched a girl from Sugarbook.com when i asked her out for dinner and suddenly MIA for 2 weeks and than come back saying "oh i my phone was giving issues" for 2 weeks

U use sugarbook website also? damn i tot i the only one haha

[hokkienme56]

Lol.

If someone asks you a question, there's 2 scenarios. Either answer y/n, or ignore.

She chose to ignore my question.

So, like other people sharing a sex story, I'm just sharing a dating/non-dating story.

yea, i can relate. so hard to say yes or no meh? keep beating around the bush dowan give proper answer. ppl not waiting one whole day for u to make up ur mind leh. Just say no if not interested.

[ilovepantyhose]

yea, i can relate. so hard to say yes or no meh? keep beating around the bush dowan give proper answer. ppl not waiting one whole day for u to make up ur mind leh. Just say no if not interested.

sharing another encounter which happened long time ago: i messaged a girl to ask her out, she did not reply, so i had to message her again the next day, only then she replied that she is busy, i LLST again

人帅爽快答应，人丑没有回应 :o:o

[TheIdesOfMarch]

yea, i can relate. so hard to say yes or no meh? keep beating around the bush dowan give proper answer. ppl not waiting one whole day for u to make up ur mind leh. Just say no if not interested.

It's all power tripping games on the part of the girls. Some guys do it too. Basically it's to see which party cares more, and commits first emotionally to the point of wanting to keep things going. That party ends up on the weaker side. Because in the other party's mind they already get the attention and desire they wish.

If you're a mature adult you won't have time for such games one. Life is too short to play Katy Perry. You know, "Hot and Cold".

[cesc88]

It's all power tripping games on the part of the girls. Some guys do it too. Basically it's to see which party cares more, and commits first emotionally to the point of wanting to keep things going. That party ends up on the weaker side. Because in the other party's mind they already get the attention and desire they wish.

If you're a mature adult you won't have time for such games one. Life is too short to play Katy Perry. You know, "Hot and Cold".

I like the last paragraph!

[I Love Boobs]

don't be silly lah. the reality is, we don care at all what the white guys do with SG girls. we only care that we don have the chance to pump them if they keep going for white guys.

AFTER whatever we do what we want with the girls, the white guys can do whatever they want.

Most SG girls are ugly as fuck.
The white guys will get the young leggy Chinese girls with nice body shapes.
Then dump them.
After they're dumped, the girls will be feminazis, sporting tattoos and bad attitudes

[LordVader]

Most SG girls are ugly as fuck.


I think that is pure generalization on your part.

Maybe you should not only watch Miss Singapore but actually go out of your house once in a while? :rolleyes:

[Daddy420]

Online dating is a hit or miss. You have a lot of options and a lot of people to talk to, and it's the same at their end. I spend most of my time hunting for girls on seeking n sugarbook and of course, this is one of the things that I have to deal with. I don't really take it seriously because there's plenty of fish in the sea and we should not make a big deal out of it. Just move on and not force things as it is the best wisest thing to do.

[hokkienme56]

sharing another encounter which happened long time ago: i messaged a girl to ask her out, she did not reply, so i had to message her again the next day, only then she replied that she is busy, i LLST again

人帅爽快答应，人丑没有回应 :o:o

i feel u bro, these types of girls no need to care so much, if she reply u so late means she not even interested

[hokkienme56]

It's all power tripping games on the part of the girls. Some guys do it too. Basically it's to see which party cares more, and commits first emotionally to the point of wanting to keep things going. That party ends up on the weaker side. Because in the other party's mind they already get the attention and desire they wish.

If you're a mature adult you won't have time for such games one. Life is too short to play Katy Perry. You know, "Hot and Cold".

such a cruel game, messing with people feeling and making ppl frustrated and confused. this is wat the world has come to now in order to communicate with opposite sex

[smlee]

I think that is pure generalization on your part.

Maybe you should not only watch Miss Singapore but actually go out of your house once in a while? :rolleyes:

maybe bad experience in the past ?

[syncrossed]

I signed up just to comment on this. Totally agree.. Girls in sg waiting to settle down only look at finances. Ugly and less qualified girls have to work harder. Prettyy girls act like primma donna even though they have nothing to offer.

Try dating the good Thai ladies, they are a breath of fresh air. SG ladies are in an artificial market.

pretty girls have their looks and body to offer

women are born rich, while men are born poor

[Xgenre]

A girl sent me a request on Kaki and we connected on Telegram. After chatting for a few days, I asked her for coffee or something, or a date, on one of the chats. The meetup was to be on a Saturday, which was a week or two ago.
She didn't respond to anything, and then, on the Friday evening before the meetup, she suddenly popped up to say, oh, she had to go to a meeting the next day.

So, fine. Whenever she chats, it's like she's busy doing something.

After a while, with the impression of me getting ignored, I just deleted her chats and contact. This happened one, or two, up to three weeks ago.

Today, she suddenly popped up on my chat, and asked how I'm doing. After I responded with a query, she said we'll be meeting up soon. I promptly told her I'm no longer interested in a meetup, wished her a great life, and deleted the entire chat.

If people are not interested in a date, they should straight away answer no. If people are interested in a date, but they can't do it on the proposed date itself, they should offer an alternative. Not providing any alternative, and not saying anything, is a sign of disinterest.

They shouldn't expect to be getting a date back if they weren't responsive.

Actually, it was a social app :), and no, she didn't use it to get IG/YT subscriber/follower.

So a girl took the initiative to get to know you and you mentioned she isn't using it to get IG/YT subscriber or follower. I think you might have misunderstood her. She's interested in you but isn't convinced it is safe to meet you yet. For a guy to meet a girl, we guys think what can go wrong.. at most the date turns out bad. For a girl, many things can go possibly wrong and they will take more convincing and reassurance before committing to a meet up.

The deadline (Saturday) is set by you. On Friday evening, she said she is busy because there is a meeting. The meeting on Saturday may be true or she might have rejected you because she needs more time to get to know you better. How did you describe the meet up? Go where, do what and what is the sequence of things to do and places to visit?

Why will someone suddenly pop up after 2-3 weeks to say both of you will be meeting soon? She probably has been thinking about you and have decided to take a leap of faith. This girl is probably not that old and not that experienced in life. She wants to date but is scared and lost. She needs reassurance and a guiding hand. End up you corner her with a timeline to decide and a rejection after she probably decide to take a leap of faith. How old is this girl? 20 - 25 year old?

Girls think differently from guys. You are quite young right? 23-28 year old? This girl is lucky to meet you then. You are quite direct in your thinking. Other guys will try to scheme and turn the situation in their favour.

[Vymrr]

The girl is lucky to meet TS but since she doesn’t want the direct route, she prefers the scheming route. Ah I see how it works now.

So a girl took the initiative to get to know you and you mentioned she isn't using it to get IG/YT subscriber or follower. I think you might have misunderstood her. She's interested in you but isn't convinced it is safe to meet you yet. For a guy to meet a girl, we guys think what can go wrong.. at most the date turns out bad. For a girl, many things can go possibly wrong and they will take more convincing and reassurance before committing to a meet up.

The deadline (Saturday) is set by you. On Friday evening, she said she is busy because there is a meeting. The meeting on Saturday may be true or she might have rejected you because she needs more time to get to know you better. How did you describe the meet up? Go where, do what and what is the sequence of things to do and places to visit?

Why will someone suddenly pop up after 2-3 weeks to say both of you will be meeting soon? She probably has been thinking about you and have decided to take a leap of faith. This girl is probably not that old and not that experienced in life. She wants to date but is scared and lost. She needs reassurance and a guiding hand. End up you corner her with a timeline to decide and a rejection after she probably decide to take a leap of faith. How old is this girl? 20 - 25 year old?

Girls think differently from guys. You are quite young right? 23-28 year old? This girl is lucky to meet you then. You are quite direct in your thinking. Other guys will try to scheme and turn the situation in their favour.

[gaiusque]

The girl is lucky to meet TS but since she doesn’t want the direct route, she prefers the scheming route. Ah I see how it works now.

From my experience, that is pretty much how the game is played these days. As much as I’m open to meeting new people, I personally don’t have the time to play such games (bit of a workaholic). So I’ve pretty much resigned myself to knowing that I won’t be able to score the fun ones, etc.

[PandaFluff]

Most SG girls are ugly as fuck.
The white guys will get the young leggy Chinese girls with nice body shapes.
Then dump them.
After they're dumped, the girls will be feminazis, sporting tattoos and bad attitudes

You seem to hold a lot of resentment against "white" guys. Why is that? Ask yourself the question what are the "white" guys doing better than me to get the leggy Chinese girls?

[morrissey1209]

Seriously, do you know that much about that other person's life to jump to conclusions about motivations and excuses. Live and let live. You may be the offended here, but you could be the offender in another case. Give them the benefit of the doubt. There are many things happening in people's life outside of their relationship with you.

But if you are no longer interested, then that is on you, not on her. She bother to get back to you means something. If she totally not interested, come back to you for fuck?

Don't think so much about mind games or stuff like that. You didn't even know each other that well. This is not Jose Mourinho Vs Alex Ferguson. What is the prize on offer for playing games? Power trip over someone you may only meet for once?

Sharing or venting doesn't really matter. I do get the feeling you are more venting than sharing. But if it makes you feel better then it is not a bad thing.

[chickenworm]

It’s just a matter of supply and demand of both parties and what you bring to the table that determines how both parties treat each other. It’s part of life, whether online or offline. TS, if a baby elephant ask you out, will you be interested and immediately say yes? Or you just KIV wishing a hotter babe come along? You might be the baby elephant in the lady’s eyes. And how do you react? Depending on your supply and whether you’re in demand. If you have plenty of options.. I will ask her to F off. But if she’s really attractive and interesting, maybe my tolerance level is higher as she’s worth it. It’s very simple

[youngbeing123]

Singaporean girls below 35 are fucking delusional. Seeking for the perfect man, Preferable with shit loads of money. Absolute bitches. After 35, they are not delusional when they realise ( Gosh it takes them this long!) their market value have plunged. By which time most turn bitter . The more enlightened ones realise then that their best hope for happiness in their lives henceforth lies in yoga.

[bigmannow]

Singaporean girls below 35 are fucking delusional. Seeking for the perfect man, Preferable with shit loads of money. Absolute bitches. After 35, they are not delusional when they realise ( Gosh it takes them this long!) their market value have plunged. By which time most turn bitter . The more enlightened ones realise then that their best hope for happiness in their lives henceforth lies in yoga.

Absolutely agree with you here:) Some may already try out yoga earlier than 35 though.

[nocsag]

So... I'm back on the dating scene.

A girl sent me a request on Kaki and we connected on Telegram.

After chatting for a few days, I asked her for coffee or something, or a date, on one of the chats. The meetup was to be on a Saturday, which was a week or two ago.
She didn't respond to anything, and then, on the Friday evening before the meetup, she suddenly popped up to say, oh, she had to go to a meeting the next day.

So, fine. Whenever she chats, it's like she's busy doing something.

After a while, with the impression of me getting ignored, I just deleted her chats and contact. This happened one, or two, up to three weeks ago.

Today, she suddenly popped up on my chat, and asked how I'm doing. After I responded with a query, she said we'll be meeting up soon. I promptly told her I'm no longer interested in a meetup, wished her a great life, and deleted the entire chat.

If people are not interested in a date, they should straight away answer no. If people are interested in a date, but they can't do it on the proposed date itself, they should offer an alternative. Not providing any alternative, and not saying anything, is a sign of disinterest.

They shouldn't expect to be getting a date back if they weren't responsive.

noob question whats this kaki app?

but truth be told if she is local you re pretty much in a queue. there are more guys than girls in sg. so any decent looking girl has plenty of choice. so she picks and waits and chooses. just bad for dating. add to increase spending power its not a wonder sg guys go for pinoys, prc and other SEA girls. sg girls in general also bad attitudes.

[randyrockhard]

I have been through this same situation when i matched a girl from Sugarbook.com when i asked her out for dinner and suddenly MIA for 2 weeks and than come back saying "oh i my phone was giving issues" for 2 weeks

Do you use paid account? I was testing it out but the app seems very commercialized. What do you usually achieve with it? I am curious

[randyrockhard]

Haven't really had the chance to date/go out with SG girls, previously mostly PRC, MY and sometimes JP/KR ones. Recently got matched to one, that will flake/change place and timing last minute. This one will initially say "let me plan", and then only make restaurant reservations last minute and made repeated logistical mess out of it, wasting time and money. All of her plans also involve expensive restaurants that are fine dining class or close, with no initiative to at least attempt to pay for her own share. First date I would probably get it, but after a few times all high class restaurant.... Not sure if she's the exception or SG girls expect first class treatment/doting. Probably avoid SG girls now..

I still recall the first SG girl I went out with from Tinder, she showcased the same pattern as the one you met. She basically ordered the most expensive food and the most expensive wine from the menu. 🤪 Look, as a guy I always pay for everything on the first date, but this one was the worst. Her attitude was all wrong.

At the time I was actually seeking for a genuine relationship after a bad breakup.

Straightaway I knew that this girl has no interest in maintaining some sort of decency as a future partner but more of taking advantage of me. 🤷🏿‍♂️

When she asked me whether we should go for drinks at other place, I was already pissed I told her no. There was no way I am going to throw more money by almost spending a grand for our first meet.

But on a hindsight I should have played along by taking advantage of her, knowing how she behaved like a hit and run case. Lol

The signs were all there from the beginning and I overlooked it. Mostly when she said she was raised by a single mother and not have much in their life. I was blind. 😬😬

[nocsag]

I still recall the first SG girl I went out with from Tinder, she showcased the same pattern as the one you met. She basically ordered the most expensive food and the most expensive wine from the menu. 🤪 Look, as a guy I always pay for everything on the first date, but this one was the worst. Her attitude was all wrong.

At the time I was actually seeking for a genuine relationship after a bad breakup.

Straightaway I knew that this girl has no interest in maintaining some sort of decency as a future partner but more of taking advantage of me. 🤷🏿‍♂️

When she asked me whether we should go for drinks at other place, I was already pissed I told her no. There was no way I am going to throw more money by almost spending a grand for our first meet.

But on a hindsight I should have played along by taking advantage of her, knowing how she behaved like a hit and run case. Lol

The signs were all there from the beginning and I overlooked it. Mostly when she said she was raised by a single mother and not have much in their life. I was blind. 😬😬

why would you let a woman plan for anything at the start. shes random.
do something cheap or where u can walk in a quiet place. at least u wanna escalate it no one can see.

[I Love Boobs]

I still recall the first SG girl I went out with from Tinder, she showcased the same pattern as the one you met. She basically ordered the most expensive food and the most expensive wine from the menu. 🤪 Look, as a guy I always pay for everything on the first date, but this one was the worst. Her attitude was all wrong.

At the time I was actually seeking for a genuine relationship after a bad breakup.

Straightaway I knew that this girl has no interest in maintaining some sort of decency as a future partner but more of taking advantage of me. 🤷🏿‍♂️

When she asked me whether we should go for drinks at other place, I was already pissed I told her no. There was no way I am going to throw more money by almost spending a grand for our first meet.

But on a hindsight I should have played along by taking advantage of her, knowing how she behaved like a hit and run case. Lol

The signs were all there from the beginning and I overlooked it. Mostly when she said she was raised by a single mother and not have much in their life. I was blind. 😬😬

Escalate and she'll blackmail you on a rape charge...

[Majide]

I still recall the first SG girl I went out with from Tinder, she showcased the same pattern as the one you met. She basically ordered the most expensive food and the most expensive wine from the menu. 🤪 Look, as a guy I always pay for everything on the first date, but this one was the worst. Her attitude was all wrong.

At the time I was actually seeking for a genuine relationship after a bad breakup.

Straightaway I knew that this girl has no interest in maintaining some sort of decency as a future partner but more of taking advantage of me. 🤷🏿‍♂️

When she asked me whether we should go for drinks at other place, I was already pissed I told her no. There was no way I am going to throw more money by almost spending a grand for our first meet.

But on a hindsight I should have played along by taking advantage of her, knowing how she behaved like a hit and run case. Lol

The signs were all there from the beginning and I overlooked it. Mostly when she said she was raised by a single mother and not have much in their life. I was blind. 😬😬


That's a crazy expensive date, although I would always pay for the first date but a grand is way too much. Lesson learnt. Plan the dinner yourself to avoid such crazy high cost

[FrostWolfRider]

I still recall the first SG girl I went out with from Tinder, she showcased the same pattern as the one you met. She basically ordered the most expensive food and the most expensive wine from the menu. 🤪 Look, as a guy I always pay for everything on the first date, but this one was the worst. Her attitude was all wrong.

At the time I was actually seeking for a genuine relationship after a bad breakup.

Straightaway I knew that this girl has no interest in maintaining some sort of decency as a future partner but more of taking advantage of me. 🤷🏿‍♂️

When she asked me whether we should go for drinks at other place, I was already pissed I told her no. There was no way I am going to throw more money by almost spending a grand for our first meet.

But on a hindsight I should have played along by taking advantage of her, knowing how she behaved like a hit and run case. Lol

The signs were all there from the beginning and I overlooked it. Mostly when she said she was raised by a single mother and not have much in their life. I was blind. 😬😬

Damn, how come the details seemed to be very similar to my case (raised by single mother and etc). Same lady? Ha

[randyrockhard]

Damn, how come the details seemed to be very similar to my case (raised by single mother and etc). Same lady? Ha

😅 Initial F.W? Or T.Y.S Lol

[Mansvoice]

sharing an encounter which happened a long time ago: i was chatting with this girl and things got to a point where i asked her out, she agreed and a date was set. on that day itself, she messaged to cancel, so i LLST.

I had one local girl who ghosted me on the day itself after agreeing to the date. So weird AF.

What's wrong with our girls ah? i had the most dates with girls from other nationalities :confused:

[nocsag]

I had one local girl who ghosted me on the day itself after agreeing to the date. So weird AF.

What's wrong with our girls ah? i had the most dates with girls from other nationalities :confused:

in their heads the best is a white guy. any white guy
can be the most plain guy, fuck in missionary, nothing interesting bum and they re better
sg girls really cmi. dont waste time. i used to think sg chinese girls were hot. hHAHAHA I went to australia and first week I never look at another chinese girl the same. she is putting a facade.
by the end of australia banging so many european and latin girls hahahaha wtf is a sg girl. shes only good at eating and spending money

[pikmin23]

So... I'm back on the dating scene.

A girl sent me a request on Kaki and we connected on Telegram.

After chatting for a few days, I asked her for coffee or something, or a date, on one of the chats. The meetup was to be on a Saturday, which was a week or two ago.
She didn't respond to anything, and then, on the Friday evening before the meetup, she suddenly popped up to say, oh, she had to go to a meeting the next day.

So, fine. Whenever she chats, it's like she's busy doing something.

After a while, with the impression of me getting ignored, I just deleted her chats and contact. This happened one, or two, up to three weeks ago.

Today, she suddenly popped up on my chat, and asked how I'm doing. After I responded with a query, she said we'll be meeting up soon. I promptly told her I'm no longer interested in a meetup, wished her a great life, and deleted the entire chat.

If people are not interested in a date, they should straight away answer no. If people are interested in a date, but they can't do it on the proposed date itself, they should offer an alternative. Not providing any alternative, and not saying anything, is a sign of disinterest.

They shouldn't expect to be getting a date back if they weren't responsive.


Alamak bro.. your date sounds abit like what I do when I talk to girls.

I know this give the case of insincerity. But for my case, I am suffering from depression and anxiety. Sometimes, it gives me brain fog and makes me forget that I didn't reply to that girl or makes me think that I did.

Also, because of my condition, it helps if I just focus on my work ignoring other things until I finish what is at hand. So that might apply to her case too.

Also, I have been burn quite badly in my past relationships. So these days, I take a more chill approach in talking to girls hahah.

[Xgenre]

If you are using apps to hunt around, then it is always a case of sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Not everyone who goes fishing comes back with fish all the time. Like real fishing, you have to spend time and effort on these apps to get what you want.

If you are looking for a real gf/future wife and you have no chance to meet nice girls in daily life, why not ask around for help? There is a group of almost irritating people you can approach. You can approach your married friends and their wives. Ask them for help. Once a person is married, somehow they like to kaypoh about why you are still single. Ask these people if there are nice single girls you can get to know. If all these married people can be bundled up into an app, then the app name will likely be 'Busybody'. You tell them what type of girls you like lah.

Once they have someone in mind, this is what you teach them to do.
1. Get them to start a new whatsapp group, add you and the girl in it.
2. Then get them to say simple things like 'I think both of you should meet. (Her name) is my (friend/colleague/whatever). (Your name) is my (whatever). I think both of you will get along well.'
3. Then get this person (busybody) to leave the chatgroup.
4. Then you act a bit shy and say hi. Normally the girl will not leave the group.
5. So if each set of married friends intro you to 1 girl, you have a few girls you can chat with. Cannot get together then at least make 1 new friend. Feels like wechat right? 1 girl per chat. :D
6. So like wechat, your profile photo matters ok. Choose one where you look natural.

As a Singaporean guy, we grew up with Singaporean girls. From primary 1 to secondary 4, that is like 10 years of female classmates. Normally we get along with the majority of these Singaporean girls. It is not like suddenly all of them turned bad right? There are always a few cases of extreme vanity and strong personality but there are enough girl next door for us to choose.

If all else fail, the next thing you need to do is to organise a class reunion. Many couples get married as a result. Last time when I was 13, I like you but I have no guts to say. Now that I am older, I have nothing to lose since we will not be seeing each other daily like last time when we are in the same class. Maybe she will ask you why you didn't say you like her at 13. Then you say you are shy lah. (Don't be so honest and tell her at 13 some other girl have bigger neh neh :p)

[gaiusque]

Very sound advice, bro! Upz you ;)


(Don't be so honest and tell her at 13 some other girl have bigger neh neh :p)

[myluckyguy]

Damn, how come the details seemed to be very similar to my case (raised by single mother and etc). Same lady? Ha

she happen to be staying in meville park? :D

[nocsag]

If you are using apps to hunt around, then it is always a case of sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Not everyone who goes fishing comes back with fish all the time. Like real fishing, you have to spend time and effort on these apps to get what you want.

If you are looking for a real gf/future wife and you have no chance to meet nice girls in daily life, why not ask around for help? There is a group of almost irritating people you can approach. You can approach your married friends and their wives. Ask them for help. Once a person is married, somehow they like to kaypoh about why you are still single. Ask these people if there are nice single girls you can get to know. If all these married people can be bundled up into an app, then the app name will likely be 'Busybody'. You tell them what type of girls you like lah.

Once they have someone in mind, this is what you teach them to do.
1. Get them to start a new whatsapp group, add you and the girl in it.
2. Then get them to say simple things like 'I think both of you should meet. (Her name) is my (friend/colleague/whatever). (Your name) is my (whatever). I think both of you will get along well.'
3. Then get this person (busybody) to leave the chatgroup.
4. Then you act a bit shy and say hi. Normally the girl will not leave the group.
5. So if each set of married friends intro you to 1 girl, you have a few girls you can chat with. Cannot get together then at least make 1 new friend. Feels like wechat right? 1 girl per chat. :D
6. So like wechat, your profile photo matters ok. Choose one where you look natural.

As a Singaporean guy, we grew up with Singaporean girls. From primary 1 to secondary 4, that is like 10 years of female classmates. Normally we get along with the majority of these Singaporean girls. It is not like suddenly all of them turned bad right? There are always a few cases of extreme vanity and strong personality but there are enough girl next door for us to choose.

If all else fail, the next thing you need to do is to organise a class reunion. Many couples get married as a result. Last time when I was 13, I like you but I have no guts to say. Now that I am older, I have nothing to lose since we will not be seeing each other daily like last time when we are in the same class. Maybe she will ask you why you didn't say you like her at 13. Then you say you are shy lah. (Don't be so honest and tell her at 13 some other girl have bigger neh neh :p)

lol why would you want a girl the same age as you?

[Xgenre]

lol why would you want a girl the same age as you?

I know of class reunions celebrating 10 years of friendship. They first got to know each other at 17 when they became classmates. So what's wrong with 27 year olds dating each other? Some ladies age like red wine. Well travelled with interesting life experience, they can be quite the catch. Also last time in school too poor and too young to drink alcohol. Now with wine and beer, everyone is more relaxed

[TheIdesOfMarch]

I know of class reunions celebrating 10 years of friendship. They first got to know each other at 17 when they became classmates. So what's wrong with 27 year olds dating each other? Some ladies age like red wine. Well travelled with interesting life experience, they can be quite the catch. Also last time in school too poor and too young to drink alcohol. Now with wine and beer, everyone is more relaxed

Agree fully with your words. Unfortunately I have never shared such cordial ties or connections with my cohort and generation, and for all intents and purposes I've lived a different life away from all of them since I was 17. Nobody's going to be inviting me back for class reunions anytime soon. Nor would I go either. Just as many of them would scorn and disparage me as the same person they remembered me from ten years ago, I'd say the same of them.

Fundamentally, I just find most SG girls boring and insular in life experience, thought, and lifestyles. Far too many of them just fit the usual cookie cutter mould.

[LordVader]

lol why would you want a girl the same age as you?

You er... low on the IQ stuff or your parent's are actually siblings?

[nocsag]

You er... low on the IQ stuff or your parent's are actually siblings?

its a polarity thing. older man younger woman. you can share ur real experiences (if ure a real man) you've probably had a ton. you meet a girl ur age. Chances are if shes any decent looking she probably been fucking longer than you. when I was 23 i had a 22 yr old angmo girl who had fucked 6-7 guys at that age. imagine a 27 yr old. and you want to settle down and get a buddy or something. she only goes downhill unless shes extra disciplined in her regimen.

[nocsag]

Agree fully with your words. Unfortunately I have never shared such cordial ties or connections with my cohort and generation, and for all intents and purposes I've lived a different life away from all of them since I was 17. Nobody's going to be inviting me back for class reunions anytime soon. Nor would I go either. Just as many of them would scorn and disparage me as the same person they remembered me from ten years ago, I'd say the same of them.

Fundamentally, I just find most SG girls boring and insular in life experience, thought, and lifestyles. Far too many of them just fit the usual cookie cutter mould.

100% even those who travel go alone to places like Mykonos or London and do safe things like eat. Imagine she is so well heeled shes not surprised anymore because shes been to all these places on her own or with her girls...

[mi.chi.eru]

Agree fully with your words. Unfortunately I have never shared such cordial ties or connections with my cohort and generation, and for all intents and purposes I've lived a different life away from all of them since I was 17. Nobody's going to be inviting me back for class reunions anytime soon. Nor would I go either. Just as many of them would scorn and disparage me as the same person they remembered me from ten years ago, I'd say the same of them.

Fundamentally, I just find most SG girls boring and insular in life experience, thought, and lifestyles. Far too many of them just fit the usual cookie cutter mould.


Couldn't agree more. I have a somewhat similar situation as well.

[dwog1]

Couldn't agree more. I have a somewhat similar situation as well.

Insurlaw, empty, boring. Honestly I wish I could do away with my manly needs such that I wouldn't succumb to texting these ladies on dating apps. such a waste of time and honestly we only need them for bodily pleasures.

for the girls outside of this category, they are truly a breath of fresh air and sadly they are my ex-es. :(

[nocsag]

Insurlaw, empty, boring. Honestly I wish I could do away with my manly needs such that I wouldn't succumb to texting these ladies on dating apps. such a waste of time and honestly we only need them for bodily pleasures.

for the girls outside of this category, they are truly a breath of fresh air and sadly they are my ex-es. :(

lol someone said for every hot girl around there is 1 guy who is sick of her bs.
thats why there are many groups of men going their own way mgtow.
you google and can see.

[dwog1]

lol someone said for every hot girl around there is 1 guy who is sick of her bs.
thats why there are many groups of men going their own way mgtow.
you google and can see.

Very interesting.. thanks for sharing

[LordVader]

Simi encounter?
Never even met, what more fuck...

verb
1.
unexpectedly be faced with or experience (something hostile or difficult).
"we have encountered one small problem"

May I recommend some English courses for you? :rolleyes:

[starrydreamer]

Fundamentally, I just find most SG girls boring and insular in life experience, thought, and lifestyles. Far too many of them just fit the usual cookie cutter mould.

I'm +1 on this. they're just not serious r/s material for me.

[I Love Boobs]

Fundamentally, I just find most SG girls boring and insular in life experience, thought, and lifestyles. Far too many of them just fit the usual cookie cutter mould.

Boring.
Superficial.
Self-entitled.
Ugly.
Materialistic.
Zero general knowledge.
Intolerant.
Rigid.
No spontaneity.
Ungrateful.
Warped thinking.
Promiscuous.

[alicialow09ww]

sorry, not trying to argue, just my opinion on the points

- The culture in SG is very conservative
actually, not that conservative anymore. 20 years ago, out of 10 girls i hook on dating site, only 2 willing to fuck before marriage. now, 9 of them will do it, AND very likely have done it way younger than me. digital era really wake them up to the "no sex before marriage" bullshit.

- Land is scarce, most single people don't have their own place, so there's no hookup culture
this is true. i agree on this one.

- Living expenses are super high. Girls worry about their income more than anything.
this only happens mostly when the girl are older or looking to settle down.

- Girls are busy in SG. Hobbies, family & friends, appointments etc
this is a poor excuse. a good relationship requires a good balance of other activities outside the bf gf. in fact, if a girl hav no other hobbies and stick to the bf 24/7, it is very terrifying experience. i meet it before, a 17 yr old texting me 500+ msg per day for 3 months. i can't stand it and dump her even tot she's providing me free sex

- Even the weather, it's hot. You walk outside you feel sticky, not sexy
i really dont think weather is a factor

- Plus if you meet girls mainly from online, of course they'll be stuck up.
agree. if they're online looking for serious rs, likely because they already have some sort of issue that makes it hard for them to find a bf in off line situation. maybe ugly, fat, personality issue, etc etc

SG girls not as Conservative as you thought to b. The reason why people find them Conservative because they are seen in that manner. Put all the badass guy out there u see how they react lol