Will you pay extra for a ML's time to have dinner?

[VKANE]

Ok, so I've been seeing this ML for about 4 times now and I admit I am growing abit of feelings for her. After my regular session with her which is around 7pm, I invited her for dinner and offer to treat her. But her response is that I need to pay an hour of her time to her boss or else she wouldn't be allowed to leave.

That will be an additional $60 and personally I don't think it's a big deal. But I declined because I felt that she is kinda smoking me with that reason. She is working in a spa and I doubt her bosses dont let them leave the place just to have their meals. So I just smiled and say "next time than" and didn't take up the "offer".

Any Bros have similar experience like this? Has anyone actually hang out with a ML before that's not in their workplace?

[Questioneer]

Had supper with two MLs, but that time was after their working hours.

Even then though, doesn't she get time off for dinner? I feel like she's definitely smoking you bro.

[VKANE]

Had supper with two MLs, but that time was after their working hours.

Even then though, doesn't she get time off for dinner? I feel like she's definitely smoking you bro.

Exactly. And it's around dinner time at 7pm and below her spa are all eateries. I mean they have to eat right? LOL. But I'm cool with it la, just find it strange I must still pay $60 for something like go Makan.

[scorelan]

I can just say she is not interested in you... just fuck and forget... unless you have tons of $$$ to spare...

[cartmanez]

I hope u see what she really is now and you lose all feelings for her. Time to move on to the next playing field!

[Questioneer]

Yeah, bro please don't be KC'd. :(

[romidogdog]

Can always buy her dinner on her off day.... if she give excuses to avoid having dinner with you on her off day.. than you will get the picture. .... why pay $60 to her boss just to have dinner with her....$60 Can buy good dinner for both of you.... imo ..what happened inside stay inside... no matter how good her service is....as long you visit her regularly she's happy enough...

[Fishcer]

Its actually the norm if u ask them go out for dinner during the working hours that the 1hr has to be paid for, cause its still within their working hours. If you don't, aytime she will have to be back in the spa if there are customers looking for her or if its her turn in the queue for walk-in customers. If you don't pay for the hour, then both the shop and the ML will lose the revenue from the 1hr. Most of the time the ML will go packet food back, and eat at the spa, or customers will buy the food for them. Unless like what some of the bros here say, u ask the ML out during her off day, then of course dun need to pay the hourly rate.

[ShittyAss]

Share with us what spa is that?

We will all go spam that spa. Hahaa

[strikeback44]

I don't mind if it includes a hj lol

[megasmellycunt7]

If the ML likes you, she will eat dinner with you during her off days and tell you don't waste money to buy her hours at work... Understand?

[sontok99]

Bro Fischer is right. My regular ML from a spa at the west told me that when her boss from china is around, her boss does not allow the MLs to go outside during their working hours, not even allow them to eat at eateries nearby. The MLs need to buy packet food and eat inside the shop.

[pursoft]

It is all about money. Imagine that they see so many guys in their work. What will do most of the talking....money. You see her 4 times only... what do you expect. Do not kid yourself. Money money money

[ShittyAss]

Hahaha she is not asking u to buy her all the hours of her 1 working day mah

And yes majority of the joints doesn't allow ML to go out freely one.

Those joints with proper counter reception is strict like shit one.

While those small joints with 3-4 MLs type is different...

[cartmanez]

If the main objective is to get something more out of her regular services then I say depends on how much you willing to invest. But never never invest any feelings for them. They also know that they won't find real love in this trade. Therefore, before you sink in too deep, you need to snap out of it.

[sladang]

TS has been around with sbf for long enuf, therefore he shud hv cheonged enuf, seen enuf, heard enuf in this cheonging scene, strange that he still gets himself involved in feelings wif MLs.

Pay an hour of her time is juz step 1, very soon step 2, step 3, step 4 etc...etc... will come automatically.

I hope TS wun believe the ML if she says these to him:
"You are the oni one & one oni person i go out wif; I wun go out wif anybody even he pays for an hour out for me except you; I wun go out wif anybody even he pays an hour out for me plus tips except you; i wun go out wif anybody even he pays an hour out for me plus gifts except you, etc...etc..."

Where to hang out will depend on the qualities of the MLs & generally they will make the decision, not you:
For pretty SYTs will probably go to those high end hang out places, your onus is to shower them wif heavy tips & luxurious gifts, last place of the day is probably the hotel for the grand finale, if any.

For pretty MILfs will probably go to those average end hang out places, you will shower them wif sufficient tips & luxuries, hotel activity will be the last event, if any.

For those CMI MLs(this is the oni catagery that u can make decision), if u ever want to take them out, juz go to Kopitiam for Teo Chew porridge or fish balls noodle will do, never mind abt hotel activity coz dun think u even hv the mood, unless u are desperately desperate for a release :D ..

[strikeback44]

For those CMI MLs(this is the oni catagery that u can make decision), if u ever want to take them out, juz go to Kopitiam for Teo Chew porridge or fish balls noodle will do, never mind abt hotel activity coz dun think u even hv the mood, unless u are desperately desperate for a release :D ..

for CMI MLs, normally the ML will auto ask the guy if want to go out or not lah. for such cases, it will be FOC or what ever amount to tip. :D

[aoshi82]

Ever try before went for dinner , she paid the meal before go over her work place

[oglaf1234]

I agree with the rest of the bros here that it's better to play safe. Most of them just here to earn money. But got exceptions la, I believe there are a few nice ones.

Last time when I was still a student, I went out on dates with this very pretty PRC FL (think she was around 24 and I was a few years younger). I would offer to pay for meals etc. but she would pay because "You student no money how to pay?".

When I booked her for sessions at her apartment (FJ), I would pay just before leaving. She would turn around and say "You want to give how much up to you, just put in my back jeans pocket", and didn't look or count while I was there. Think one time I just put $50 into her pocket (just to test her) after a 90 min session, she also never say anything afterwards.

[loneyheart]

Exactly. And it's around dinner time at 7pm and below her spa are all eateries. I mean they have to eat right? LOL. But I'm cool with it la, just find it strange I must still pay $60 for something like go Makan.

Fav returned upped u bk :) Thxs bro

[Marq]

My opinion is try asking the ML out during her off days, start off with simple meal or something, if excuses given, you will know where you stand. No need to 'buy' her time

[asoyatu]

Took a regular ML out to lunch before she starts for the day
After lunch sent her to shop, paid entrance, free FJ

[Samto]

Took a regular ML out to lunch before she starts for the day
After lunch sent her to shop, paid entrance, free FJ

Care to share where is the shop and ML?

[bignehneh]

Many massage lady stays in condo or landed property. If you don’t, better keep ur $$

[xchange]

If the girl likes you-she will tell you when you can take her out for free, and it has happened to me in various countries including Singapore, Thailand and Philippines.

[Samto]

If the girl likes you-she will tell you when you can take her out for free, and it has happened to me in various countries including Singapore, Thailand and Philippines.

Most of time they just like your money and they can get shares from your payment to the shop in order to bring them out, very greedy

[trichard]

I agree with the rest of the bros here that it's better to play safe. Most of them just here to earn money. But got exceptions la, I believe there are a few nice ones.

Last time when I was still a student, I went out on dates with this very pretty PRC FL (think she was around 24 and I was a few years younger). I would offer to pay for meals etc. but she would pay because "You student no money how to pay?".

When I booked her for sessions at her apartment (FJ), I would pay just before leaving. She would turn around and say "You want to give how much up to you, just put in my back jeans pocket", and didn't look or count while I was there. Think one time I just put $50 into her pocket (just to test her) after a 90 min session, she also never say anything afterwards.

Seriously.... Studying already ...FJ...

[sammyboyforumm]

If you are not seriously ugly or irritating and own a car, many MLs will not mind going out for meals..... they will even their friends along for free meals... ha ha

[sladang]

If you are not seriously ugly or irritating and own a car, many MLs will not mind going out for meals..... they will even their friends along for free meals... ha ha

That's to say there are free meals in this world indeed huh? :D ..

[JiLin]

That's to say there are free meals in this world indeed huh? :D ..

Sinkie man will always act generous and treat PRC bitches meals that cost few hundreds to thousands.. While only making 3k a month and staying in a small 3 or 4 room HDB flats. Sinkie man's ego is very high despite no money but wanna act rich in front of forgein whores be it China, Vietnam, Thai etc... I have seen many cases

[ShittyAss]

Sinkie man will always act generous and treat PRC bitches meals that cost few hundreds to thousands.. While only making 3k a month and staying in a small 3 or 4 room HDB flats. Sinkie man's ego is very high despite no money but wanna act rich in front of forgein whores be it China, Vietnam, Thai etc... I have seen many cases

Are u one of them as well?

[Gsh93636892]

Sinkie man will always act generous and treat PRC bitches meals that cost few hundreds to thousands.. While only making 3k a month and staying in a small 3 or 4 room HDB flats. Sinkie man's ego is very high despite no money but wanna act rich in front of forgein whores be it China, Vietnam, Thai etc... I have seen many cases

Totally agreed!!!

[JiLin]

Rangoon Road, Lavender Street, Race Course Road, Jalan Besar, Foch Road, Horne Road, South Bridge Road, North Bridge Road, Jalan Sultan, Beach Road, Bali Lane, Boat Quay, Tanjong Pagar Road, Duxton Road, Balestier Road, Machperson Road.

These are the roads you need to avoid if the Spa you are intending to visit falls above. I have very unpleasant experiences at these Spas on these roads above. If the Spa you are intending to try doesn't fall under the roads above, you are good to try, but that dosent mean you do not kena lousy ML, bad attitude and chop carrot ML, it's definitely more safe than the Spas I have listed out above. Have fun exploring.

[jay.lay]

Are u one of them as well?

up u bro :)

[jay.lay]

If the girl likes you-she will tell you when you can take her out for free, and it has happened to me in various countries including Singapore, Thailand and Philippines.

up u bro :)

[bpafree39]

When a ML truly likes you, she will not ask you to buy time to bring her out. She can always go out with u on her off days or meet after or before work hours.

[Giansex]

Ya..only carrot will buy hrs to bring the ml to have meal..after meals go home PCC..my regular treat me hai Di Lao for supper...I insists paying but she say I always 照顾 her and she Wana thank me.haha..

[funboy47]

I think all cheongster sometime overrule by their small Brain and ego. It's quite obvious sometime if the ml got some feeling with you and they will show it by ask u to keep the tips, sparing more time for you in massage/ services .... they are here to earn money too. We can't blame them for being $$$ face when come to providing services... so if we fxxked up�� or we got what we want��... we have to move on as we know these are only short moment of glory. Let's enjoy our life to fullest and share all the good lobang��

[holala]

Sinkie man will always act generous and treat PRC bitches meals that cost few hundreds to thousands.. While only making 3k a month and staying in a small 3 or 4 room HDB flats. Sinkie man's ego is very high despite no money but wanna act rich in front of forgein whores be it China, Vietnam, Thai etc... I have seen many cases

maybe not all but you are right overall.

[linrx]

maybe not all but you are right overall.

A PRC ML Coco of Adelphi bought me a packet of rice before, it was delicious with fried 小白菜.

[Unityrod]

I ever encounter they say no off days and no time off.... Wat an excuse when they can go out with they so call sister...😆 power ..

When a ML truly likes you, she will not ask you to buy time to bring her out. She can always go out with u on her off days or meet after or before work hours.

[kombust]

I ever encounter they say no off days and no time off.... Wat an excuse when they can go out with they so call sister...😆 power ..

She's trying to not hurt your feelings lol

[sladang]

If a ML likes u, anything oso can, if a ML doesn't like u, anything oso cannot, simple as that.

Whatever funny excuses a ML gives to turn down ur request is a clear cut indication that she doesn't like u, that she has no feelings towards u, that u are not her 'cai'.

As such, i wud adv u to juz move on..

[kombust]

If a ML likes u, anything oso can, if a ML doesn't like u, anything oso cannot, simple as that.

Whatever funny excuses a ML gives to turn down ur request is a clear cut indication that she doesn't like u, that she has no feelings towards u, that u are not her 'cai'.

As such, i wud adv u to juz move on..

Or you could fuck her hard till she orgasms on your next visit. I encountered a few whose attitude change totally after intense fj

[sladang]

Or you could fuck her hard till she orgasms on your next visit. I encountered a few whose attitude change totally after intense fj

Good for u bro, unfortunately i dun hv such encounter :o ..

[Unityrod]

True.. maybe I not a big spender ..sadness

She's trying to not hurt your feelings lol

[skypower_88]

I ever encounter they say no off days and no time off.... Wat an excuse when they can go out with they so call sister...😆 power ..

Total agree with you. All girl will have off day. Simply not to anger or reject customer, best way is to tell customer no off day.
As some bro mentioned, girl who ask u pay 1 hr to have dinner with her is just treating you as robert. Free dinner, somemore can earn money. Why not.

So think twice before act. Pay 1 hr to dinner with you, why not waste the 1 hr ask her service you. Anywa paying to treat her dinner, you think 1 day she will be touch and love you?? What u get in return is they will tell their sister they caught a robert head.

So gentle reminder to bro here. Money hard to earn. If a girl really treat you as friend and willing to have dinner witg you, they will not ask you to pay the 1hr dinner fee.

[aoshi82]

That’s true... even ask me dun need to gave full amount

[NiaoRenn]

After supper, bring them home to bang!!! Video record too

[strikeback44]

I tried asking one out for supper....after her working time..

She told me that she need to hit her sales target :eek:

WTF......it's after hours still have to think about sales target ?

So it's quite clear that she is not interested because she can go supper with me and later massage for me and still hit her sales target...right ? :D

[Unityrod]

Maybe you need to refer to Kombust reply to me... Same boat...



I tried asking one out





for supper....after her working time..

She told me that she need to hit her sales target :eek:

WTF......it's after hours still have to think about sales target ?

So it's quite clear that she is not interested because she can go supper with me and later massage for me and still hit her sales target...right ? :D

[ferndazAllan]

[QUOTE=
Any Bros have similar experience like this? Has anyone actually hang out with a ML before that's not in their workplace?[/QUOTE]

I had my fair shar and I paid for all my lessons. Those of us that kena by the PRC ML is because we were cheongsters of the 80s whereby the ipoh mui ML will offer exactly the same service to every paying customer. We had that hard wired into our mindset already.

WELL, WE ARE FUCKED.

Think about this the ML their hand hold cocks more then they hold chopsticks and offf course they will know what they like to have stick inside them my looking and feeling it.

Coming directly from a ML, I asked her how she picks her Fuck buddy and she repied looks body money personality and hygiene aside one very critical factor is the size of your dick. If it fit her, she will pick you, it does not mean that its too big too small, different girls have different likings.

So if yours falls under her cat, she will pay more attention to you and will even be wiling to fuck you for free...

otherwise you will end up like me, want to buy them hour go out also kena rejected LOL.

Dont feel dejected if they dont want you, look for professionals, they do a better job...

[kombust]

I had my fair shar and I paid for all my lessons. Those of us that kena by the PRC ML is because we were cheongsters of the 80s whereby the ipoh mui ML will offer exactly the same service to every paying customer. We had that hard wired into our mindset already.

WELL, WE ARE FUCKED.

Think about this the ML their hand hold cocks more then they hold chopsticks and offf course they will know what they like to have stick inside them my looking and feeling it.

Coming directly from a ML, I asked her how she picks her Fuck buddy and she repied looks body money personality and hygiene aside one very critical factor is the size of your dick. If it fit her, she will pick you, it does not mean that its too big too small, different girls have different likings.

So if yours falls under her cat, she will pay more attention to you and will even be wiling to fuck you for free...

otherwise you will end up like me, want to buy them hour go out also kena rejected LOL.

Dont feel dejected if they dont want you, look for professionals, they do a better job...

If you try enough holes, you will find one that fits well.

[sladang]

I tried asking one out for supper....after her working time..

She told me that she need to hit her sales target :eek:

WTF......it's after hours still have to think about sales target ?

So it's quite clear that she is not interested because she can go supper with me and later massage for me and still hit her sales target...right ? :D

Yeah, it's true, every month the MLs will hv to hit their sales targets, this is possibly the nightmares that all these PRC MLs will hv, that's why when month end comes to the corner, these MLs will come to their wechat to plead for support.

If a customer asks a ML out for supper after her working hrs, what she gets is oni the free supper, but if a customer buys her time out for dinner for example, then it's as good as saying that she gets one session from u plus one free meal, (this session no massage, no need 4G for roaming inside outside frontside backside upside downside), oni 1G chatting nia, coz dinner outside ma.

Think on her way back to her workplace after dinner, what she would be thinking in her mind is that the sinkie robertz are so eazy to chop one la :D ..

[unicel74]

Actually is normal lah,
if the ML have meal with u = lost of income...
the shop will have less one person to work (if customers comes)
unless is those OMO (boss) type or those very small shop they will me more
willing to have meal with u provided they have feelings for u or non peak hrs.
if not eat half way shop call go back to work ..how?


last time I brought a ML for supper before went for an hour massage ended early bought an hour over the counter to that she can go out... paid for the meal.

worth or not is very dependent on individual.....
last but not least u must be clear in ur mind what ur final objective?
I would not say all ML are bad or good.... they are here to make a living + $$$
there's always exceptional cases a relationship may developed (Too many factors to determined the end results).

I do have a relationship with a ML before...lol

two cents worth no offend to anyone...

[strikeback44]

Yeah, it's true, every month the MLs will hv to hit their sales targets, this is possibly the nightmares that all these PRC MLs will hv, that's why when month end comes to the corner, these MLs will come to their wechat to plead for support.

If a customer asks a ML out for supper after her working hrs, what she gets is oni the free supper, but if a customer buys her time out for dinner for example, then it's as good as saying that she gets one session from u plus one free meal, (this session no massage, no need 4G for roaming inside outside frontside backside upside downside), oni 1G chatting nia, coz dinner outside ma.

Think on her way back to her workplace after dinner, what she would be thinking in her mind is that the sinkie robertz are so eazy to chop one la :D ..

But I always go find her for massage after her working hours leh...so if she go dinner with me i can still follow her back for massage and she still get to clock her sales. (actually i will ask her go my house for massage instead lol) :D

[sladang]

But I always go find her for massage after her working hours leh...so if she go dinner with me i can still follow her back for massage and she still get to clock her sales. (actually i will ask her go my house for massage instead lol) :D

Go your house for massage? why u got such kangtao one?

[Penguin23]

I tried asking one out for supper....after her working time..

She told me that she need to hit her sales target :eek:

WTF......it's after hours still have to think about sales target ?

So it's quite clear that she is not interested because she can go supper with me and later massage for me and still hit her sales target...right ? :D

You probably need to learn a bit more about the trade and what your ML faced to come here. Most borrowed or paid roughly S$10k-11k for the benefit of having a work permit and the employer has the right to cancel her permit at any time without assigning a valid reason. On top of that MLs need to pay the shop owner monthly for their levy (WP or Spass holders) as well as rent for the bed that she usually gets fucked on.

So, sometimes its really the target. Sometimes its the shop boss that is just a bastard. Anyway, your ML has little choice. If they get their permit revoked for any reason, they lose money.

So chill and maybe empathize a little.

Or maybe she really doesn't like you that much.

[strikeback44]

You probably need to learn a bit more about the trade and what your ML faced to come here. Most borrowed or paid roughly S$10k-11k for the benefit of having a work permit and the employer has the right to cancel her permit at any time without assigning a valid reason. On top of that MLs need to pay the shop owner monthly for their levy (WP or Spass holders) as well as rent for the bed that she usually gets fucked on.

So, sometimes its really the target. Sometimes its the shop boss that is just a bastard. Anyway, your ML has little choice. If they get their permit revoked for any reason, they lose money.

So chill and maybe empathize a little.

Or maybe she really doesn't like you that much.

you too free is it ?
i am asking her out after her hours. and obviously she will get paid if she service me outside.
whatever you wrote is just pure nonsense . :rolleyes:

[Johndick]

End of the day how many of us are really dying to have a meal with the ML? It's really our EGO fucking with our logic lah.

We asked coz we wanna ascertain if the ML has good feelings about us, how charismatic we are in her eyes and for some bros they feel if go out for a meal is ok soon may unlock more "access". It's never really because we feel so freaking romantic to have a meal with her or we no appetite if she not seated opposite us.

It's all about the male EGO.

Hence imo, if we need to pay to even make her agree, then might as well spend the hour charge in the room hanky panky or get dirty, why waste the $$ + meal cost at some resturant. Paying to get her agree does nothing to boost the EGO.

Like many said above, the only EGO boost is she agree without you buying the hour charge. Offday, rest time or whatever lah, if she is into you, she sure as hell will make time. That is the only worthwhile scenario imo, coz we paid nothing EXTRA and confirm that we have some level of attraction over her. EGO IS FED :D

[fmylife]

Well I was with 2 MLs and went Malaysia to relax. Lol

[pursoft]

Get to bring one ml out frequently.

[Stupid80]

Get to bring one ml out frequently.

Same here. Hope is not the same ml :P

[WhiteRunner]

Aiyo, careful dun kenna KC ah

[kombust]

One of my regular ml recently offered me raw and no need to tip. I Kenna KC. KAN CHIONG like fuck. Opt for cap and still paid. Damn scary.

[thedevil666]

Agree. And I don’t see why anyone who treat them like a trophy gf. Other than boasting here in sbf that u have slept with them outside of the MP, who dare to bring the girls out with their friends? Or better still bring her home and intro to your old folks.



End of the day how many of us are really dying to have a meal with the ML? It's really our EGO fucking with our logic lah.

We asked coz we wanna ascertain if the ML has good feelings about us, how charismatic we are in her eyes and for some bros they feel if go out for a meal is ok soon may unlock more "access". It's never really because we feel so freaking romantic to have a meal with her or we no appetite if she not seated opposite us.

It's all about the male EGO.

Hence imo, if we need to pay to even make her agree, then might as well spend the hour charge in the room hanky panky or get dirty, why waste the $$ + meal cost at some resturant. Paying to get her agree does nothing to boost the EGO.

Like many said above, the only EGO boost is she agree without you buying the hour charge. Offday, rest time or whatever lah, if she is into you, she sure as hell will make time. That is the only worthwhile scenario imo, coz we paid nothing EXTRA and confirm that we have some level of attraction over her. EGO IS FED :D

[Giansex]

Hahahaha.if ml into u she will make time for u during her off days..if u pay and bring her out mean she treat u as a carrot head

[assrimmer]

Aiyo, careful dun kenna KC ah

Agree with you bro.

[Stupid80]

Make sure the one who kena kc is the ml instead of us

[cronyman]

Make sure the one who kena kc is the ml instead of us

That's a good one bro!

[sladang]

Well I was with 2 MLs and went Malaysia to relax. Lol

Yeah, bring 2 MLs overseas to relax is not cheap sia, LOLz :D ..

[nicecrack]

Pay airfare, hotel accomodation, sight-seeing and food etc. Can add up to quite a lot.

[nicecrack]

One of my regular ml recently offered me raw and no need to tip. I Kenna KC. KAN CHIONG like fuck. Opt for cap and still paid. Damn scary.

Wah.... raw is war :eek:

[leonleonli]

firmly no. will not pay extra for ML time to have dinner, that would allow FL/ ML to flish more from your pocket, if asking help, family member sick, need money to support kids education. worse, ML/ FL may use your money to please their BFs. JUST REMEMBER YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY CUSTOMER.

[johntank]

what is so special? after a while they will go out with you...

[sladang]

JUST REMEMBER YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY CUSTOMER.

Not the oni customer but she will tell u that u are her oni (亲爱的) :D ..

[whoizzit2]

Definitely not me, won't waste my time and extra $$ to fork out going dinner with ML.
And like other bros said, i am not the only 亲爱的.

[Gump]

Usually won't agree even if you offered to pay. If you feel that they will agree then don't even have to pay.