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jonzhong
24-05-2007, 08:57 PM
i notice the price of fl are getting higher, some cat 130 are like cat 100-110, some cat 150 are like cat 130. u people agree? i know i say this sure will get flame one but got to voice out

Da Ming
25-05-2007, 08:57 AM
i notice the price of fl are getting higher, some cat 130 are like cat 100-110, some cat 150 are like cat 130. u people agree? i know i say this sure will get flame one but got to voice out

Strongly agreed with you. Price increased by OKT but quality still remains the same. Seldom go thai FL nowadays sometime feel not really worth it. rather spend my $$ on cat $150 or PRC .

Wouldn't mind to fork out more if quality is good. Frankly speaking, business in bangkok is not good as before. Only those solid good ones still can survive whereas those thai FL that we see in those yahoo group are normal standard
rather go bangkok to spend....if they look great, why need to use studio photo:rolleyes:

Wbmk
25-05-2007, 06:03 PM
We all remember the days when a bowl of mee rebus costs $1.50, a cuppa coffee costs $0.40...prices for both went up, but mee rebus still tastes like mee rebus, coffee still tastes like coffee. What to do? Either we go for it, or we don't. Example, if you don't like a certain TV show, watch another channel or turn it off. Such is the power of choice.

Price will go up and down (more often up in Singapore) but that is just business, concept of supply and demand.

I'm not writing on behalf of any OKT or whoever, but this is just my opinion. Fact is, everything will cost more in the future, from products to services to transport etc. But we as customers/consumers, we have the power of choice and we have every right to practise it.

JWNY
25-05-2007, 06:24 PM
i notice the price of fl are getting higher, some cat 130 are like cat 100-110, some cat 150 are like cat 130. u people agree? i know i say this sure will get flame one but got to voice out
Actually, may i know how you quantify the difference bewteen cat 100 - 1xx??

Must know the rules before engage in debate :cool:

JWNY

topcook1
25-05-2007, 06:44 PM
If cant drive BMW then go for Hyundai...Perhaps you wait for some discount from the OKT before the gals are returning.

O K T
25-05-2007, 07:31 PM
Bro, I hope my pricing of $120, 90min, 2 shot for Thailand FL is reasonable.

My Euro and Korean are at $150 a shot.



OKT

Cum_Luver
25-05-2007, 07:41 PM
maybe OKT also need to pay GST and with the 2% increase coming in July 2007,
OKT maybe also need to include it in their package....
haha...haha...haha...

though agree with bro JWNY, maybe bros here have to post their criteria of FL clearly and bros here can give their comments

:p

jonzhong
25-05-2007, 11:42 PM
there always pros and cons... but like wat previous thread say, we as consumer/customer got the choice and i totally agree... i dun mean to offend any OKT but its just a normal comment la, hope that no one got offended... i think the reason being the price of hotel room increase... thats wat 1 OKT told me.... so i think bo bian liao lo... hehehe

longlyman1314
26-05-2007, 09:46 AM
Also Puzzled For The Criteria For Classifying The Price .
Need Instruction ...

A A A
26-05-2007, 02:02 PM
Cost of living going up, maybe price should follow that of NWC recommendation .. , but ultimately everything is mkt forces, too high No client, price will come down ..

saxromeo
26-05-2007, 04:09 PM
Where pricing is concerned, its the law of economics that is usually the determining factor . if the okt experience a poor demand in their product then they will eventually realise there's something is wrong.
Like most businessmen, if they have an unhealthy stock balance , they have to clear it at cost or even no profit so as not to incurr more losses.
If a particular OKT wants to market their stable as high end solutions without justification then its a dangerous way to do business.

Kyser Soze
26-05-2007, 04:16 PM
Maybe they also take into consideration of GST? :D

Accord_JDM
26-05-2007, 04:33 PM
simply put it...

if u think the cost for a particular FL is too high then DON'T take her la...
go for those who are within your budget lor...

Da Ming
26-05-2007, 04:33 PM
We all remember the days when a bowl of mee rebus costs $1.50, a cuppa coffee costs $0.40...prices for both went up, but mee rebus still tastes like mee rebus, coffee still tastes like coffee. What to do? Either we go for it, or we don't. Example, if you don't like a certain TV show, watch another channel or turn it off. Such is the power of choice.

Price will go up and down (more often up in Singapore) but that is just business, concept of supply and demand.

I'm not writing on behalf of any OKT or whoever, but this is just my opinion. Fact is, everything will cost more in the future, from products to services to transport etc. But we as customers/consumers, we have the power of choice and we have every right to practise it.


The OKTs must be happy to have such a loyal customers like you

Soon they will give you some discount because you agreed with the hike :D

coldguy
26-05-2007, 08:39 PM
Too bad that Increase in price of FL does not go along with increase of salary.

charsiew
26-05-2007, 08:59 PM
Maybe increase in price should be adjusted with the increase in timing, like instead of 90mins session which I think is too short a time for 2 shots, should be increased to 120 mins to be fair for those who are slow risers after 1st shot (like me).

peterparker89
26-05-2007, 09:16 PM
my 2 cents worth... :p

Geylang
Rate - 40 for 25mins, 1 shot. Some 20mins, 1 shot!
Location - Very Obvious! me go there scared clients/colleagues/friends see...
Room - small like cubicle, no bathtub. Single bed. (if only all of the houses were like GL6H70) heh heh...
Gal - Can choose from tank. Live!
FR - From OKT. If you are regular, no worries. If you 1st timer at house, good luck...
Service - Tikam tikam, like above, good luck. I reckon, the houses from the lower lorongs provide better service.
Safe - Check up every 2 weeks. Not 100% also lah. We have to becareful. There's a thread on safe sex.

FL
Rate - 89 to 200 for 90mins, 2 shot.
Location - Usually quite comfy hotel. Got carpet, I like! kekeke... But if traffic light at junction is red, then every1 can see me go in or out... haiz.. hahaha
Room - Got carpet! got bathtub, got armchair(some rooms good, some rooms lousy). Some single beds, some queen bed. Nice ambience.
Gal - Only from pics. Usually studio pics, which are maybe only 70% accurate. I kena a few that when i saw liao, my c**k cannot stand...
FR - From Bros here. I think who the reputable and reliable Bros are, we all shld know lah.
Service - From FR can gauge. However, it's also like tikam and need luck. Sometimes, the FLs also will feel down or unwell. And some may have attitude problem.
Safe - ermm... No. No need say lah. We have to becareful. There's a thread on safe sex.

Ok, my 2 cents use up liaoz. I can only comment on LOS gals as i am more interested in them.

Cheers
pp89

slyer
27-05-2007, 12:27 PM
uncle pp89 very good analysis of geylang and FL scene.... no doubt u are the golden boot winner for Thai FL :D


one thing i dun like to go geylang is i scare later ppl see i go there kio kway then i die alr :D

visiting FL is more discreet n safer from being seen or caught by ppl whom i know

Kyser Soze
27-05-2007, 01:07 PM
Too bad that Increase in price of FL does not go along with increase of salary.
Oh yeah, my annual increment is less than 4%. With GST and all other miscelleneous stuff rising, wallet becomes tighter. End of the day, one just have to spend within his own means.

no_faith
27-05-2007, 01:41 PM
wat to do? there is always fluctuation.:(

Gentle Beast
27-05-2007, 02:05 PM
I suggest prices of FLs should be included into the basket of essentials such as sugar, rice, gasoline when tabulating our Nation's Consumer Price Index (CPI). :D

nacho
27-05-2007, 02:50 PM
Oh yeah, my annual increment is less than 4%. With GST and all other miscelleneous stuff rising, wallet becomes tighter. End of the day, one just have to spend within his own means.


I agree with your comment on increment. Instead of going 2~3 times a month, I have to be contented with 1~2 times per month. Money shrinks.....

ishtarsg
27-05-2007, 03:46 PM
How about comparing HC girls to FL?
Although you et only one shot but the amount of money for 150 FL let you have good massage,hot pool etc, you get free food etc.
When i first join SBF, thai was 99/2/60, now it has increase a lot.
Thus sometime i would go HC instead of going to OKT unless that have very good gems.
Even 150 PRC in GL is a waste of money compare to HC.

nacho
27-05-2007, 03:51 PM
At times, I have this thinking of bonking girls in HC is safer in terms of spread of diseases and AV.............. correct me if I am wrong

cheongking
27-05-2007, 03:56 PM
Bros, pls pray that ICA will lift the visa approval for PRC. I heard from friends in ICA they r reviewing the requirement to allow free visa for 14days for all PRC passports and it will extends longer to 30days if the casino operates here.... in 2009

ChokMaiDee!
27-05-2007, 05:17 PM
At times, I have this thinking of bonking girls in HC is safer in terms of spread of diseases and AV.............. correct me if I am wrong


HC is not "safer" compare to FL because the HC (for bonking)in singapore is not consider legal, therefore the gal did not go through mandatory checking. Hope this info is useful to you ;)

LengKia
27-05-2007, 08:44 PM
Price for GL M'ssia Cat $150 still remain the same after more than 20 years

Thai FLs from $100-120 in 2002 to $130-$170 2007

M'sia cat $150 go for monthly check up

Thai FLs ????? ;)

Da Vinci
27-05-2007, 09:09 PM
Oh yeah, my annual increment is less than 4%. With GST and all other miscelleneous stuff rising, wallet becomes tighter. End of the day, one just have to spend within his own means.

Yes... in the end, its our money to spend. cannot spend, then don't spend. Gals also got to eat. I believe their commission also higher, thats why, the increase. Cannot think of ourselves only...

I believe there are agents here who offer regular/member/supporters rate.
Long-term relationship is still the best.... at least ur regular okt will know what is your type and he can recommend you accordingly. Then you will not waste your $$$.

I also hope quality is there.. to justify the market values. I still like Thais, after experiencing so many types. Pom Rak Thai Poo Ying!!!

sintaro
27-05-2007, 09:58 PM
Having read all the above, I sometime sit down and think, the price of Thai FL is actual about $60-$70 only but because the OKT is involve the price shoot up double as the OKT takes a cut. The price 130/90/2 is also another gimmick, how many brothers out here really get to fuck them twice. From all the FR that I read only a handful really go all out to screw them twice to make sure that they claim all their entitlement. It would be better off for us if they can offer something like $70 or $75 for 60/1 Hope I am not offending any OKT here, it is just my personal suggestion.

JChoo
27-05-2007, 10:06 PM
Bro Da Ming, your observation not exactly correct because some OKT allow for some negotiation if you are regular. Now, got OKT offer Great Singapore Sale also. Price is 110/90/2. I read somewhere that one of the OKT offer one of the gal at 90/90/2.

Cheers.

Strongly agreed with you. Price increased by OKT but quality still remains the same. Seldom go thai FL nowadays sometime feel not really worth it. rather spend my $$ on cat $150 or PRC .

Wouldn't mind to fork out more if quality is good. Frankly speaking, business in bangkok is not good as before. Only those solid good ones still can survive whereas those thai FL that we see in those yahoo group are normal standard
rather go bangkok to spend....if they look great, why need to use studio photo:rolleyes:

gameboy3799
27-05-2007, 10:22 PM
I think they learnt from our Government and raise their prices base on certain BENCHMARK around the region countries...........:D

Wbmk
28-05-2007, 12:56 AM
The OKTs must be happy to have such a loyal customers like you

Soon they will give you some discount because you agreed with the hike :D

Bro Da Ming, and to the other bros who zapped me...pls read my post again carefully! :mad:

I guess you guys misunderstood my English, not as good as yours.

In my post, I was saying price (whatever product) will always go up and down...and in Singapore, more often go up. AND...I also said that as customers we can CHOOSE NOT TO PATRONISE if we feel price too high! Please read again and don't zap without thinking.

In the end, it's matter of choice...if you feel price too high, dont go for it. If you think you dont mind spending a few more, its ok. THATS what I was saying.

And to the brother who said I was "another Thai wannabe" after zapping me...F*** OFF, I've had my share of PRCs as well but not from FL Dome.

sitonski
28-05-2007, 01:25 AM
Bro Da Ming, your observation not exactly correct because some OKT allow for some negotiation if you are regular. Now, got OKT offer Great Singapore Sale also. Price is 110/90/2. I read somewhere that one of the OKT offer one of the gal at 90/90/2.

Cheers.

hmmz.. got 90/90/2 meh? which okt de? lowest i see same as u, also 110 de.. :)

arrow6989
28-05-2007, 01:41 AM
my 2 cents worth... :p


Gal - Only from pics. Usually studio pics, which are maybe only 70% accurate. I kena a few that when i saw liao, my c**k cannot stand...

Cheers
pp89

Bro totally agree with you on this comment...kekeke :D

suteerak1099
28-05-2007, 02:58 AM
if we look at both sides of the coin, there's no right or wrong to say if the price is justified. the operators will have their reasons to price their stocks. while the bidders will have to discern for themselves if they're ok with the quotation.

not forgetting, the service standards + time per slot is different. understandably, prices sometimes also determined by the hotel they operate in + room facilities available. of cos, that's not to say that the operators cant consider revising their prices to meet the demands. yet having to face the dilema of over-booking.

at the end of the day... still resorts to 1 thing, if there's no demand, there's no need for supplies. so long as there's bidders, the show will go on. just a vicious cycle i guess...

codicerous
28-05-2007, 03:31 AM
okie .. i also put one leg in here to give my two cents worth...

i think... no point asking the question if prices of FL increasing is justified.. because at the end of the day, de demand will still be dere, and the prices will still be dere... same as our pm taking a higher salary back.... we also make alot of noise at first.. but in the end.... when gst off set package come.. we also keep quiet... PM say he will donate his increased salary ... but WAIT... wat abt tax exemption? he will in the end pay less tax.. so he will still bring home more $$$...

as far as i know... thai girls in sbf... since i joined (two years back), had been marketed at 90/2 ... seldom heard of 60/1 ... sooo yup...

like wat some of the bros in here say, if u regularly go back to the same okt... he/she will give u discount one... something like gst off set eh ? hehe...

:p

that reminds me... i lost my hp recently and lost alot of contact numbers... sigh... gotta pm one by one to ask for their numbers again....

Wbmk
28-05-2007, 11:35 AM
okie .. i also put one leg in here to give my two cents worth...

i think... no point asking the question if prices of FL increasing is justified.. because at the end of the day, de demand will still be dere, and the prices will still be dere... same as our pm taking a higher salary back.... we also make alot of noise at first.. but in the end.... when gst off set package come.. we also keep quiet... PM say he will donate his increased salary ... but WAIT... wat abt tax exemption? he will in the end pay less tax.. so he will still bring home more $$$...

as far as i know... thai girls in sbf... since i joined (two years back), had been marketed at 90/2 ... seldom heard of 60/1 ... sooo yup...


Finally, someone who understood exactly what I'm trying to say! Just like with my mee rebus and kopi analogy, as long as demand is there, supply will follow...price increase or not. And just like with your Minister's salary increase, we all will make noise but in the end the price stays. I also made noise when some FLs are priced too high, so I didn't go for them and went for other stocks instead. But if I feel it's worth it, I still go for it and RTF!

As for Thai FLs priced under $110, bro thaiboy recently had a couple of girls at $70 and $90 respectively but I didn't go for them coz schedule clash. Then there was the $99/$100 trend by a few OKTs here...and sis Bonniesan also had a girl at $88 before - Annie (i still remember her blasting stereos). Bro O K T's gals are pretty reasonably priced at $120, and so far his stock looks good.

Cheers!

slyer
28-05-2007, 12:04 PM
hmmz.. got 90/90/2 meh? which okt de? lowest i see same as u, also 110 de.. :)

i rmb seeing one thread where the okt ad his gals at 89/90/2. forgot wich okt alr... the lowest price thai fl i tried is only 110

oasis2002
28-05-2007, 01:45 PM
To each his own, i find that the FL price is abit steep. So I switch from FL to GL 150 category or the 80 category if i have the urge, at least service is quite standard and no need to scare scare about service of the FLs. Unless there is good FL stock and price is reasonable then I consider a try on those FLs again.

suteerak1099
28-05-2007, 02:00 PM
at the end of the day, its all up to the operators to decide as & when they wanna give away promos. service pricing & marketing is highly dependent on what is in the package. 一分钱一分货

JWNY
28-05-2007, 02:16 PM
It's like cigarettes, now we pay $11.20 - used to be...:(

more people smoke nowadays....

JWNY

suteerak1099
28-05-2007, 02:23 PM
service is always subjective. 1 man's meat, anothers poison. some like it, some dont... so as such, it depends if the visitor is sextisfied or not.

if he is sextisfied, he may even feel that he's had more than he paid for.... and i'm sure there're some heavy tippers out there.... and for some cases, lotsa RTF as well.

whereas, there'd be cases when the performance received is perceived to be sub-standard, and so the feeling of price not justified. case to case basis i believe.

geeky
29-05-2007, 01:42 AM
Like to put my 2 cents worth of views..hehe:p

I think that we are in a way control by the 4 vices that we chinese called it:"吃,喝, 嫖, 赌" which one of them might be the one that sort of control your life. For example, sex is a part of our life, sometimes your small head got those super urges and then you cannot find your wife or gf to satisfy or you find DIY to be no fun, definitely you would turn to HC, FL or GL. Thus it becomes more like a demand and supply factor, which is why the OKTs have businesses from us samsters here.

Theres a point in time way back in 2002 that my urges were so high that I always wanted to go HC or LSC in JB and bonk those gers every week, and when I realised the amount of money that are spend on these areas, its so freaking high that I have to gradually cut back and control urges.Its seems difficult to break the pattern but no choice cos' got to use money for other purposes.

But I guess the one thing here we can control is our money and our mind, we still have the power to choose ;) ,not in the sense of choosing which ger to bonk but choosing where to spend our money most productively.

As for me for these few months,I gonna spend $ to buy my gadgets at the coming PC show and those stuff needed at the GSS,probably before the garmen increase the Goondo Stupid Tax or GST in short. Gonna MIA for quite a long while..

Cheers

Vectra
29-05-2007, 02:56 AM
To each his own, i find that the FL price is abit steep. So I switch from FL to GL 150 category or the 80 category if i have the urge, at least service is quite standard and no need to scare scare about service of the FLs. Unless there is good FL stock and price is reasonable then I consider a try on those FLs again.

Agree with you, bro. I ever tried the FL few yrs back I never feel sexified after that. Contrary to you, I went HC which is more value for money. Beside the service, there are facilities to be use too. Total only cost $135+. If I want food, I will go to bigger HC then. And that's even cheaper compare to FL.

Furthermore those WL do went for chk up and it's unsure if those FL even go...:cool:

_AXL_
29-05-2007, 03:08 AM
end of the day... pricing not controlled by OKTs but by market forces. if priced too high, no one wants to go,so OKT has to reduce pricing. if a certain pricing not to one's liking, then he has to go for lower priced ones lor. then again, market demand will ensure that other (or even the same) OKTs will come in to service that market...

of course, dont expect the same level of quality of looks and service. always the case... wants vs resources...

but 1 thing i m sure... come 1st july, OKTs will all have good business bcos of the gst offset... bonk money compliments of the gahmen...:D so go ahead, import more to meet the increased demand!!!:D no offence meant to anyone... cheers.

sherrry
29-05-2007, 11:07 AM
Pricing for FL good or not is depending on market rate & luck also. If market set at 150, then we negotiate or beg also no use. how much lower they willing to go is hard to say.

Sometimes photo accuracy is not so accurate at all. Some look good on photo, but in person see liao sian liao, some in photo not so good, but in real person the zip almost burst.

Service standard also hard to say, some sexxion make us feel like hero, not only feel that the price is good, but want to rtf rtf rtf. Some the sexxion is disappointing make us feel like zero, so I think understandable, why we feel is over price.

Even if give discount for next sexxion also discount little bit, not enough to cover the loss for previous disappointment.