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arsenal168
23-05-2017, 07:24 AM
Was wondering any1 knows why LHL din attend the Forum in Beijing & found below info in Sammyboy RSS Feed.

Sad fate of Singapore..


Delegates from over 130 countries gathered in Beijing to discuss cooperation, trade and development at the first Belt and Road Forum for International Cooperation recently. Right after the conference ended, it came to light that Singapore's Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong had not been present at the forum. Media speculated that Lee was not invited by China. For seasoned Asia-watchers, it was a watershed moment in regional affairs and marked the end of the era of amicable ties that Lee's father, Lee Kuan Yew, had so painstakingly nurtured with Asia's economic superpower .

What this means is that China no longer regards Singapore as a friend. Despite cordial links with the elder Lee's government, one thing had long irked Beijing: the offer by Singapore of its supremely strategic location to the US for military activities in the region. But other aspects of the relationship were healthy enough that the Chinese overlooked not just that, but even Singapore's military cooperation with Taiwan. Moreover, China understood that Singapore, with no natural resources, needed to keep sound ties with the US in order to survive and prosper. The Chinese readily accepted the island state's policy of political equidistance between China and the US.

Since 2011, however, the Americans have intensified their campaign to contain China, in the guise of its "pivot" to Asia. Simultaneously, Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong has junked his father's judicious balancing act and turned his country almost into a de facto military base for the US Navy. His words, and those of his ministers, have become increasingly, even enthusiastically, pro-US and China-skeptical, if not outright anti-China.

Indeed, on a visit to the US White House in 2013, Lee saw fit to joke about pig soup and pollution at China's expense. In Chinese, if not Asian culture and diplomatic protocol, this was a big faux pas - all the more so as it occurred in the capital of China's No. 1 strategic rival. Too often, Singapore, then at the height of its prosperity, seemed to be flaunting its new orientation, without regard for Chinese sensibilities.

After a significant period of patience, Beijing has apparently had enough. The first public sign was the detention in Hong Kong late last year of Singaporean military vehicles en route home from Taiwan. Such transits had long occurred without incident - but not this time. Though the vehicles were released months later, the episode signaled that something was serious amiss in the China-Singapore relationship.

Regarding the Belt and Road, it is clear that the Chinese are designing the megaproject to bypass Singapore. The designated Belt and Road ports in Southeast Asia are Malacca in Malaysia and Tanjong Priok near Jakarta, Indonesia's capital. Such marginalization of Singapore would mean a huge blow to its economic fortunes in the longer term.

The Philippines and Vietnam, long pro-Washington and Beijing-phobic respectively, recently mended fences with China and distanced themselves from the US. Their leaders, like those elsewhere in Southeast Asia, realize that the Chinese can offer them far greater benefits in the 21st century than the Americans. Besides, they know they must live with China forever, while America's presence in the region will ebb and flow (it is now ebbing).

Remarkably, Singapore's current leaders seem unaware of such basic realities. That leaves the Lion City as the sole, conspicuously pro-US country in Southeast Asia. It must feel very lonely.

arsenal168
23-05-2017, 07:32 AM
越想越气,他妈的🐷头政府!

arsenal168
23-05-2017, 07:45 AM
The cordial relationship with PRC that LKY painstakingly built over a few decades is destroyed by LHL & his talented cabinet ministers over just a few years.

Now Singapore will continue to decline while other ASEAN countries will start to prosper with China's help & cooperation.

ravindran
23-05-2017, 08:59 AM
Tks for sharing.

pandandhi
23-05-2017, 12:44 PM
Nice sharing, tks.

kyc2110
23-05-2017, 02:08 PM
This is PAP's way of responding to the majority Singaporean mah! Majority of sillyporean hate the PRC ma but not when they bonk PRC gals!:D 100% of the local Chinese 's ancestors were also migrants from China ! So sad that they have forgotten their roots! Well, India also didn't attend! Looks like spore got a friend there!:D

Tuanehkia
23-05-2017, 02:14 PM
Haha! Well, life still goes on!

pchai
23-05-2017, 04:20 PM
Haha! Well, life still goes on!

...down the road:eek:

unibomber
23-05-2017, 04:56 PM
...down the road:eek:

Down the longkang :D

w00f
23-05-2017, 07:53 PM
Haha! Well, life still goes on!

Of course life still go on! Pity your future generation Nia!:rolleyes: if the future world of finance are controlled by the Chinese ....I bet sillypore will go begging!

sadfa
23-05-2017, 08:23 PM
The cordial relationship with PRC that LKY painstakingly built over a few decades is destroyed by LHL & his talented cabinet ministers over just a few years.

Now Singapore will continue to decline while other ASEAN countries will start to prosper with China's help & cooperation.

This subject is I teach u wan.
Why u never acknowledge??

Spore finish LA.

Recently duterte say want to drill for oil in south China sea.

Xi DA DA say don't want LA. We are frens.
Duterte say UN say the island Is mine what.
I drill means drill. Don't need to ask your permission.

Xi da DA say ccb. U drill means war OK.

Duterte silently curse.

Xi DA DA say since we are friends, we drill together, we benefit together

China of cos will build kra LA.
Don't believe garbagement shit that China will do all these things regardless.

A quicker route means days cut off shipping time so definitely they'll do the port.
But if China n spore are frens, everything can talk n sure xi DA DA wont leave spore in the lurch

Hope China build gigantic airport in Thailand or Malaysia so everyone who wants to deal with China must use n cut off Changi.

For those who going to Australia, build another major airport right in JB or indo n everyone will use too. Garbagement spend billions upgrade changi, no fucking use.

And old man isnt China expert.
Don't perpetuate rubbish LA.

He cannot even speak Chinese until he in 40s cos he join politics n he take Chinese tuition. If u don't even speak Chinese, u think u know how Chinese think n act?
No common background, no common culture, no common interest. Garbagement is no better than whites la
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Exchange points acknowledge ma

HC NEWBIRD
23-05-2017, 08:36 PM
Of course life still go on! Pity your future generation Nia!:rolleyes: if the future world of finance are controlled by the Chinese ....I bet sillypore will go begging!


Bro,

Returned NINE Mangos.

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sadfa
23-05-2017, 08:37 PM
Of course life still go on! Pity your future generation Nia!:rolleyes: if the future world of finance are controlled by the Chinese ....I bet sillypore will go begging!

Hope within ten years, spore go down the drain. PSA n changi dead n all foreign companies shift out

All the youths no job or lousy jobs

In ten years time, even young local spore Chinese gets will be hookers for Indians, prcs n Filipinos who work in spore n before they leave spore, they'll want to know wats its like to fuck sporeans. Don't worry spore guys will suck cock also.

Stupid sporeans will still vote Garbagement cos they're dumb n gutless .
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Exchange points can see future ma

SiaSuay
23-05-2017, 10:03 PM
In a nutshell , if this ambitious project by the Chinese government is successful more goods and services will be exported to Russia ; Africa and Europe bypassing the traditional shipping lanes .The Singapore port will thus decline and lose its relevance . Think about it .

coolmanspooky
23-05-2017, 10:21 PM
Ehhh National Development Minister Lawrence Wong attended the summit...

sadfa
24-05-2017, 12:25 AM
Ehhh National Development Minister Lawrence Wong attended the summit...

Asked him to sit at toilet LA.
Or hold camera while taking photos.

What a joke.
Many heavyweights turn up.

Shitty spore should get deputy pm minimum to turn up or minister of trade turn up. Spore being a banana country don't show face to xi DA DA. Hope spore get punished accordingly.
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Exchange points give face ma

sadfa
24-05-2017, 12:27 AM
In a nutshell , if this ambitious project by the Chinese government is successful more goods and services will be exported to Russia ; Africa and Europe bypassing the traditional shipping lanes .The Singapore port will thus decline and lose its relevance . Think about it .

Of cos will succeed LA unless the ports r bombed. Many of these ports n routes will gain in significance. Bye bye LA spore
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Exchange points will succeed ma

henrykao00001
24-05-2017, 08:43 AM
Personally I feel SG cannot gets any better if we do not

1) Stop all government or government linked companies from doing business in Singapore.
2) Remove all "so called" ministers since they are useless in internal and external affairs
3) Better support for local SMEs and citizens
4) Lastly stop the raids on OKTs.

arsenal168
24-05-2017, 01:44 PM
Personally I feel SG cannot gets any better if we do not

1) Stop all government or government linked companies from doing business in Singapore.
2) Remove all "so called" ministers since they are useless in internal and external affairs
3) Better support for local SMEs and citizens
4) Lastly stop the raids on OKTs.

A few more promoted in last cabinet reshuffle, so point 2 won't happen. If Singapore economy goes downhill, can raise taxes in many areas(还有空间)to support these ministers, senior ministers of state, ministers of state etc.

Lau Goh still drawing millions annually as Emeritus minister but we rarely see him active😏

arsenal168
24-05-2017, 02:00 PM
And old man isnt China expert.
Don't perpetuate rubbish LA.

He cannot even speak Chinese until he in 40s cos he join politics n he take Chinese tuition. If u don't even speak Chinese, u think u know how Chinese think n act?
No common background, no common culture, no common interest. Garbagement is no better than whites la
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Exchange points acknowledge ma

I already guessed u will mention this. Think I can buy 4D/Toto this week😜

Anyway, nothing said in this thread citing LKY is china expert. But it is a fact he actively engaged China & had a cordial relationship, at least on the surface, even if both countries 暗怀鬼胎😒

Now too late even if LHL & his ministers keep talking about strong friendship with PRC after the Terrex saga. LHL should change this useless foreign minister.

maxsee
24-05-2017, 02:02 PM
Singapore is going already downhill...years of relationship cultivates by LKY and Deng Xiaopeng all went down the drain when our current Banana government took over...GM an america company even declares cutting 70% of their workforce here in Singapore. I dun understand now how us leaning towards America helps us in anyway.

All i see is lesser and lesser jobs. For those tat curse and condemn this country. If u r a local, you will cry for help one day when one of ur close ones lose their job.

If u r a foreigner.... Something must have cause u to hate this country. But remember a few bad apples here and there does not denotes that everyone is bad. :p

arsenal168
24-05-2017, 02:08 PM
Singapore is going already downhill...years of relationship cultivates by LKY and Deng Xiaopeng all went down the drain when our current Banana government took over...GM an america company even declares cutting 70% of their workforce here in Singapore. I dun understand now how us leaning towards America helps us in anyway.

All i see is lesser and lesser jobs. For those tat curse and condemn this country. If u r a local, you will cry for help one day when one of ur close ones lose their job.

If u r a foreigner.... Something must have cause u to hate this country. But remember a few bad apples here and there does not denotes that everyone is bad. :p

Can't agree more.

一针见血☝🏻

arsenal168
24-05-2017, 02:12 PM
Ehhh National Development Minister Lawrence Wong attended the summit...

Asked him to sit at toilet LA.
Or hold camera while taking photos.

What a joke.
Many heavyweights turn up.

Shitty spore should get deputy pm minimum to turn up or minister of trade turn up. Spore being a banana country don't show face to xi DA DA. Hope spore get punished accordingly.
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Exchange points give face ma

Totally agreed!

Can't put it clearer than this!😂😂😂

newyorker88
24-05-2017, 06:18 PM
Don't think too highly of the one belt thing, politics n money not yet sort out properly, and not to forget the EU didn't quite agree, and India/Pakistan thing not settle, their territory.

China it self has debt of about 270% of GDP, corruption n so on. Trade by sea may be down for now, but it is an established one. And the amount of money needed is huge, much more many times than what China committed, plus the other countries are too poor to do it, not to forget corruption

Don't talk so far as if the belt is a sure bet.

sadfa
24-05-2017, 07:45 PM
Don't think too highly of the one belt thing, politics n money not yet sort out properly, and not to forget the EU didn't quite agree, and India/Pakistan thing not settle, their territory.

China it self has debt of about 270% of GDP, corruption n so on. Trade by sea may be down for now, but it is an established one. And the amount of money needed is huge, much more many times than what China committed, plus the other countries are too poor to do it, not to forget corruption

Don't talk so far as if the belt is a sure bet.

Don't pour cold water on xi DA DA LA.
U think they invite the countrys down n say surprise!! We are going to spend billions on u!!! Swee bo!!

Obviously they spent long time talking to all the countries before announcement.

After talk so much, they pull out after two years, damn lose face for China

China in fact already pump billions in other countries like Africa n Brazil for their own interest. So they look determined to push it thru
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Exchange points lose face ma

sadfa
24-05-2017, 07:50 PM
A few more promoted in last cabinet reshuffle, so point 2 won't happen. If Singapore economy goes downhill, can raise taxes in many areas(还有空间)to support these ministers, senior ministers of state, ministers of state etc.

Lau Goh still drawing millions annually as Emeritus minister but we rarely see him active😏

U mean the guy who only give one speech in Parliament during last election over past 5 years?? Haha.

And the stupid sporeans cry n say its the quality that counts !! LJ quality LA. One speech wat quality?
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Exchange points Make a lot ma

sex crusader
24-05-2017, 08:25 PM
Don't think too highly of the one belt thing, politics n money not yet sort out properly, and not to forget the EU didn't quite agree, and India/Pakistan thing not settle, their territory.

China it self has debt of about 270% of GDP, corruption n so on. Trade by sea may be down for now, but it is an established one. And the amount of money needed is huge, much more many times than what China committed, plus the other countries are too poor to do it, not to forget corruption

Don't talk so far as if the belt is a sure bet.

人多好办事!5 over million population with 1/3 FT and you think China give a shit! Apple also lan lan list China as the first batch of countries that will get their new products! What does sinkapo has? Value of the sgd so high for fuck! Even the tourism industry also on the decline Liao!

chukeliang
25-05-2017, 12:44 AM
Don't think too highly of the one belt thing, politics n money not yet sort out properly, and not to forget the EU didn't quite agree, and India/Pakistan thing not settle, their territory.

China it self has debt of about 270% of GDP, corruption n so on. Trade by sea may be down for now, but it is an established one. And the amount of money needed is huge, much more many times than what China committed, plus the other countries are too poor to do it, not to forget corruption

Don't talk so far as if the belt is a sure bet.
u are correct bro...
many thing need to sort out.

the_e_ones
25-05-2017, 09:32 AM
Of course life still go on! Pity your future generation Nia!:rolleyes: if the future world of finance are controlled by the Chinese ....I bet sillypore will go begging!

Bro w00f, had returned your nice gesture!

Cheers and enjoy!

Steventan
25-05-2017, 09:38 AM
Yea, PRC girls.

Thanks for the reps given.

This is PAP's way of responding to the majority Singaporean mah! Majority of sillyporean hate the PRC ma but not when they bonk PRC gals!:D 100% of the local Chinese 's ancestors were also migrants from China ! So sad that they have forgotten their roots! Well, India also didn't attend! Looks like spore got a friend there!:D

skyleon
26-05-2017, 09:32 AM
One Belt, One Road a boost for trade, infrastructure in Asia


By Kelly Ng

Published: 4:00 AM, May 25, 2017



SINGAPORE — China’s One Belt, One Road (OBOR) initiative holds significant advantages for infrastructure as well as trade and economic integration in the region, said Finance Minister Heng Swee Keat yesterday.

Speaking at a dialogue held at the McKinsey & Company’s Global Infrastructure Initiative summit — where he was asked a couple of questions on the OBOR, including Singapore’s role in it — Mr Heng also expressed Singapore’s support for the massive plan to develop railways, bridges and ports, among other infrastructure, to foster trade and connectivity throughout Asia and Europe.

“It is a plus for a number of reasons ... The amount of investments needed in infrastructure in the coming years, whether in Asia or the world, will grow quite significantly. So being able to provide that capital is one major step,” he said.

The initiative also signals the importance of trade connectivity and economic integration, an impact “particularly important” at a time when support for globalisation is fraying in some parts of the world, he added.

On Singapore’s involvement, Mr Heng said he hopes the Republic can offer its experience in planning and structuring infrastructure projects. Private-sector players here can also play a “very important role” in looking at how they can meet needs in the region, such as in terms of power plants, water, and industrial parks, he noted. “There has been a lot of knowledge that has been gathered, and I hope that will be useful,” he said.

China’s grand plan — which will cover 64 countries in four continents, with a combined population of 6.4 billion (about 62 per cent of the world’s total) — also presents opportunities for multilateral organisations, including development banks, Mr Heng said. “They can really have new breakthroughs, not just in providing financing, but in building expertise,” he said, urging multilateral development banks to work with governments around the world in enhancing the efficiency of infrastructure planning, designing and operations.

These banks can also help catalyse private-sector investments by adopting more “creative ways of financing and de-risking”, he said, citing the World Bank’s Masala Bond Programme as an example of innovative re-financing.

Mr Heng said: “My hope is that economies will get more deeply integrated, trade will continue to flourish, and so, in that regard, all these initiatives are to be welcomed.”

During the 30-minute dialogue, he addressed a range of questions, including on Singapore’s experiences in city planning, developing human capital, and its upcoming initiatives such as the Smart Nation drive and Jurong Innovation District.

On the future economy, Mr Heng stressed that Singapore cannot immediately write off certain sectors as “sunset industries”. He said: “I don’t think we are in such a great state to be able to say this is going to be an industry of the future and this is going to be a sunset industry. What we mustn’t have is the sort of sunset thinking.”


continue reading here : http://www.todayonline.com/singapore/one-belt-one-road-boost-trade-infrastructure-asia

arsenal168
27-05-2017, 10:07 AM
Heng is a good minister.

Better than a lot of minsters.

Vivian is 1 of the worst...can't do a good job as Environment minister nor Foreign minister.

SiaSuay
27-05-2017, 07:13 PM
Heng is a good minister.

Better than a lot of minsters.

Vivian is 1 of the worst...can't do a good job as Environment minister nor Foreign minister.

The only real good ministers are those of the Pioneer generation who together with LKY helped and build what is modern Singapore today . My respect to them . Sadly the current team can't hold even a candle to them.

Embrent
27-05-2017, 07:15 PM
The only real good ministers are those of the Pioneer generation who together with LKY helped and build what is modern Singapore today . My respect to them . Sadly the current team can't hold even a candle to them.

Good ministers don't wear white. Wear white won't be a good minister.

sadfa
27-05-2017, 09:41 PM
The only real good ministers are those of the Pioneer generation who together with LKY helped and build what is modern Singapore today . My respect to them . Sadly the current team can't hold even a candle to them.

Please la. Don't perpetuate these nonsense n ah peh kopitiam talk la.

All these ppl cock up also. But cb media downplay it.

Whos the idiot who caused spore to go to recession in 80s when rest of the world n region was fine by jacking up cpf contribution rate. Fucking economic genius sia
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Exchange points myth ma

sadfa
27-05-2017, 10:57 PM
Heng is a good minister.

Better than a lot of minsters.

Vivian is 1 of the worst...can't do a good job as Environment minister nor Foreign minister.

I think u must have hit your head before u type this la.

Chinese got saying - recognize crook as father.

These assholes are like tan Cheng bock.
In the past happily take their money n nod in agreement with their bs.

Now, he dare say actually I don't agree with them on everything hor. My heart is with u wan OK.
Who the fuck will accept
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Exchange points must hit head ma

draven78eric
08-06-2017, 01:53 PM
One Belt One Road, Port in Malacca and Kra Canal will be a economic and political driven plans. They sure have the capital funds. Most overseas projects are co-funded by Peking central gov and private sectors. Kra canal as an example, is a private company and back up by the central gov.
But the circulated pic of the signing the treaty is a fake one though. Actual company actually involed is another company. There is a actual debate on this project in one of the CHina's variety shows with many experts and politicians

Just a comparison and we compare-

US- dont invest in the countries which they place their Naval Vessels and fighting jets in so many countries. All want to do for free and if anything issue, just withdraw the troops. (Indirectly, they are colonize these countires too)
The countries get into any disputes, all they do is just to poke poke others and add petrol into fire

China- They go into the countries with plan and pump funds into the projects and also into the country gov. Example- write off debts from the countries and allow China to start investments in the country and treaties are signed.
China, build casinos in Mayanmar and Laos and Cambodia, also in a way bring in more monies for the countries too and many others. China bank is opened in Laos and Thailand too. Pump funds into the economics..

What US has done so far, just use mouth like what Pinky has been doing.
Seriously i just wish Russia will just faster crush US or US get into friendly terms with them. Even if one day , the world will fall back into communist rule, it will not be the same communist state same as the long before.
Anyway, arent we living in a fake democracy state(Communist) now? :D