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BronzeGod
31-12-2016, 01:44 AM
Every once in a while, we will hear some people mention that some thing apparently is against AV rules.

So I am sure many of us are curious to know what some of these AV rules really? And what are the rules that apply to legal geylang prostitutes?

For example, one of them that is often cited is that WL cannot go out with customers, etc.

What other rules are there out there?

Feel free to share your views and knowledge on these AV rules for all to know and understand.

Calling all the laojiao to contribute, or anyone with an understanding of some of these rules.

IMPT NOTE: A concern was brought up in this thread that some may use their knowledge of the AV rules to sabo houses or WLs that may offend them. I would like to caution that doing so is indeed foolish, and you may be jeopardising your own privacy and peace of mind by trying to do so. See my post below. There really have been cases where the whistleblower was indeed exposed and made known to fellow samsters. So think twice before you try to sabo any house or WL by using the AV rules and reporting to AV. Karma will catch up with you.

https://www.sammyboyforum.nl/showpost.php?p=15488208&postcount=38

... people who try to sabo WL or OKT by reporting things to AV are truly scum.

And I feel sad for such individuals. Imagine how much effort they have to go to just to sit in the house or tail the WLs around to wait for something to report?

And then after that, how to produce evidence that rules were broken?

There's also the risk that such "whistleblowers" identity can be tracked and exposed.

So any potential sabo King here reading this thread, do think twice before playing with fire.

Karma has a way of striking back at sinister characters who do evil to others. ;)

OKT and WL are not dumb, there are ways and means to find out who the sabo king is :eek:

And don't forget the many kaypoh samsters who will be on your trail if you did something to sabo their fave WL or house.

Certainly not worth the loss of peace of mind, looking over your shoulder everyday wondering if you will get found out, just for the cheap thrill of "saboing" a WL or OKT due to some unhappiness. :cool:

korean
31-12-2016, 01:59 AM
- WL must not wear too sexy be it inside or outside brother house (this is funny, we r nto living in muslim state or country and some other gal outside can wear as their liking as long as not exposing the private parts)
- No unprotected sex (oral, vagina, anus) (how many wl fulfil this criteria)
- Must accompanied by OKT when going out (how many wl fulfil this criteria)
- no gambling inside brother house (fail during cny)
- no alcohol inside brother house (fail)

BronzeGod
31-12-2016, 02:06 AM
- WL must not wear too sexy be it inside or outside brother house (this is funny, we r nto living in muslim state or country and some other gal outside can wear as their liking as long as not exposing the private parts)
- No unprotected sex (oral, vagina, anus) (how many wl fulfil this criteria)
- Must accompanied by OKT when going out (how many wl fulfil this criteria)
- no gambling inside brother house (fail during cny)
- no alcohol inside brother house (fail)

Which brother is brother house? :confused:

korean
31-12-2016, 02:13 AM
Which brother is brother house? :confused:

brothel house, typo :p

Garfoo
31-12-2016, 10:29 AM
Every once in a while, we will hear some people mention that some thing apparently is against AV rules.

Calling all the laojiao to contribute, or anyone with an understanding of some of these rules.

I heard from a Malaysian WL that when the WLs report to AV,they have to greet the officers "Good morning Sir or Madam" or they will be rebuked and it can be quite rough. Personally, I don't see the need to treat the WLs like this. Also, when the AV conduct a spot check on the houses, they will ask all waiting customers to leave (OKTs get very upset because they know customers will not return for that day). I was once with a WL inside the room when a spot check was conducted. The WL, shivering and trembling, got dressed, went to her handbag to retrieved her card, left the room and then returned. I asked why. She replied, "they very fierce. If I take too long to go out, they will shout at me:. Any bro heard of all these?

StealthBomber
31-12-2016, 10:36 AM
- WL must not wear too sexy be it inside or outside brother house (this is funny, we r nto living in muslim state or country and some other gal outside can wear as their liking as long as not exposing the private parts)
- No unprotected sex (oral, vagina, anus) (how many wl fulfil this criteria)
- ...


"No sexy wear" rule is regularly broken inside the house, for sure. In my view, they certainly dress very sexy :D Imagine if they wear 'burka' head-to-toe covering, then choosing the girls will be like what?? And in some countries on this Earth, exposed ankles is sexy, LOL.

"No unprotected sex" rule? More LOL!

As for the girls being prohibited from going out unescorted, what do they do during their off-days? Heard from one that it can be as long as 2-3 days off if they want to rest, or after overnight. They actually reside in the house??

Have ever hinted to one whether she want to earn extra on her off-day, but politely rebuffed, with the girl citing the "rule".

comm
31-12-2016, 11:39 AM
at least 1 okt must be inside the house when AV conduct spot check
the use condom posters must be posted all over the house
wls that walking to other house for appointment must cover up properly

panad0l
31-12-2016, 12:30 PM
- Must accompanied by OKT when going out (how many wl fulfil this criteria)

I heard this is only when they go clubbing, etc. Surely they can't have OKT with them every time they step out of the house (exercise, go to Sheng Siong, etc.)?

bmw38
31-12-2016, 12:50 PM
Personally I never like the AV guys, though so far I did not encounter any problem with them, I find them abusing their power by shouting at the pimp and the girls.

Many years back, my friend while waiting for me at the customer area had a big quarrel with the AV guys, one of the AV guy questioned him on why he was sitting there, he was not happy with my friend's answer when he said that he was waiting for me. The AV guy asked him get out of the house. When my friend refused, he threaten to arrest him. At the end my friend produced his warrant card, the AV guy got shocked on seeing his rank and appointment, immediately called for his IC (a woman).

Though the 4 of them including their OIC (over the phone) was reprimanded for abusing of their power right and did not comply to the protocols and procedures in front of everyone in the house, that was the last time my friend joined us in such outing.

Understanding from him that senior police officer (SP and above) are not allowed in such places unless they are on duty. Not sure how true is it?

StealthBomber
31-12-2016, 01:04 PM
...

Though the 4 of them including their OIC (over the phone) was reprimanded for abusing of their power right and did not comply to the protocols and procedures in front of everyone in the house, that was the last time my friend joined us in such outing.

Understanding from him that senior police officer (SP and above) are not allowed in such places unless they are on duty. Not sure how true is it?

Your friend is a police officer? I guess in certain jobs there will be unwritten rules existing out of common sense.

What if the officer is married / attached, or wants to protect his reputation? If seen in brothel, he could be blackmailed in the future.

korean
31-12-2016, 01:06 PM
I heard this is only when they go clubbing, etc. Surely they can't have OKT with them every time they step out of the house (exercise, go to Sheng Siong, etc.)?

Yes go clubbing only version I heard too. Apparently there r many versions (unofficial I suppose). What I do heard the stringent rule, is they do need to be accompanied by OKT/assitant/driver whenever going out (some say no need if within geylang area, but if kena av even in geylang area, show them the scanned copy of passport and/or the watever identity document and call the OKT to answer the AV).

korean
31-12-2016, 01:13 PM
Your friend is a police officer? I guess in certain jobs there will be unwritten rules existing out of common sense.

What if the officer is married / attached, or wants to protect his reputation? If seen in brothel, he could be blackmailed in the future.

I heard two cases, one is a police officer (WL noticed he got a gun with him and asked whether he is a mata and he acknowledged), second case is a senior officer in AV :eek::D

korean
31-12-2016, 01:17 PM
"No sexy wear" rule is regularly broken inside the house, for sure. In my view, they certainly dress very sexy :D Imagine if they wear 'burka' head-to-toe covering, then choosing the girls will be like what?? And in some countries on this Earth, exposed ankles is sexy, LOL.

"No unprotected sex" rule? More LOL!

As for the girls being prohibited from going out unescorted, what do they do during their off-days? Heard from one that it can be as long as 2-3 days off if they want to rest, or after overnight. They actually reside in the house??

Have ever hinted to one whether she want to earn extra on her off-day, but politely rebuffed, with the girl citing the "rule".

lol funny rite? apparently i heard some house followed in quite strickly (not sure how true coz kena b4 and if kena again maybe gotta close shop)

It very depend on the gal, some can just nua in the house for week, but some just cannot stand the restriction and taign the risk. I believe this is one of the prime reason why most of the WL cannot fulfill the 2 years duty here.

panad0l
31-12-2016, 01:49 PM
I heard two cases, one is a police officer (WL noticed he got a gun with him and asked whether he is a mata and he acknowledged), second case is a senior officer in AV :eek::D

If my job exposes me to girls wearing sexy clothes and showing half balls daily, I don't think I can tahan not cheonging :D

korean
31-12-2016, 01:56 PM
If my job exposes me to girls wearing sexy clothes and showing half balls daily, I don't think I can tahan not cheonging :D

No wonder wl r prohibited to show too much of their flesh lol

Cametopoke
31-12-2016, 04:01 PM
Sorry for the noob question, what does WL and AV stands for?

StealthBomber
31-12-2016, 04:15 PM
If my job exposes me to girls wearing sexy clothes and showing half balls daily, I don't think I can tahan not cheonging :D

Maybe you should try getting a job in our local univ or poly!!

Same same every day can see long legs and bare midriffs and occasional zao geng ... LOL. How to tahan.

Anyway, police officer working hours very unpredictable and not fixed, especially those plainclothes one. So, easy to bluff the spouse and 'eat outside' :D

Ericky
31-12-2016, 04:17 PM
Can bring OL clothes let them change or not?

korean
31-12-2016, 06:34 PM
Anyway, police officer working hours very unpredictable and not fixed, especially those plainclothes one. So, easy to bluff the spouse and 'eat outside' :D

lol nice one. even kena caught in brothel house can give excuse as on duty :D not surprising as gl is the top criminal spot in sg :p

panad0l
31-12-2016, 06:46 PM
lol nice one. even kena caught in brothel house can give excuse as on duty :D not surprising as gl is the top criminal spot in sg :p

Sir, I acted on tips from my informant, and went undercover to 1606 to find out if there's illegal activity there :D

unfit
31-12-2016, 07:21 PM
Sir, I acted on tips from my informant, and went undercover to 1606 to find out if there's illegal activity there :D

无间道:rolleyes:

korean
31-12-2016, 07:34 PM
无间道:rolleyes:

u mean 污奸盗? :D

korean
31-12-2016, 07:36 PM
Sir, I acted on tips from my informant, and went undercover to 1606 to find out if there's illegal activity there :D

I heard there r customer who took drug during the session regularly :eek:

hornyunclez
31-12-2016, 08:19 PM
Maybe you should try getting a job in our local univ or poly!!

Same same every day can see long legs and bare midriffs and occasional zao geng ... LOL. How to tahan.

Anyway, police officer working hours very unpredictable and not fixed, especially those plainclothes one. So, easy to bluff the spouse and 'eat outside' :D

I think the dream job would be to go "undercover" to the brothels, and even really cheong there to be "convinncing" and have a strong cover.

:D

Allanooi
31-12-2016, 08:46 PM
Mata can go bonking at legal house sure or not sian till I don't believe the friend can flash his warrant card to av officer

korean
31-12-2016, 08:52 PM
Mata can go bonking at legal house sure or not sian till I don't believe the friend can flash his warrant card to av officer

av and police officer were my regulars' customers :D

As long he is a guy (trump, monk, OKT himself, minister, etc) all can go bonking at legal house as there is no registration. Just dont get caught :p Same for the married man can go bonking at legal house or not ask their COO at home

unfit
31-12-2016, 09:53 PM
u mean 污奸盗? :D

Sibay Bagus Cina:D

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-dDuLXBNxR3Q/WFeS81MQW4I/AAAAAAAAGhk/lcSENxiKLvUu0M6PDh7-lm2iaArDw82DACLcB/s1600/Happy%2BNew%2BYear%2BGifs.gif

ttymark
01-01-2017, 12:29 AM
the legal and illegal rules

Fat Fatt
01-01-2017, 08:16 AM
Nice and informative thread.
But try not to divulge any houses not following the rules.
This forum is also used to collect info for the enforcers

sammyboyfor
01-01-2017, 08:20 AM
Sorry for the noob question, what does WL and AV stands for?

https://www.sammyboyforum.com/showthread.php?t=155447

adonis
01-01-2017, 10:51 AM
Happy New Year bros. Is it true that the registered OKT or his runner must be present in their legal Geylang house at all times they are open? If they are absent and the AV Police checks, the legal house can be shut down for a number of days.

Is it true that the Police licensing department in-charge does not hand out licenses to open new legal Geylang houses any more? Have a fun filled new year. I shall try my best too.

adonis
01-01-2017, 10:56 AM
Can legal Geylang houses be open 24 hours? Are there a maximum number of registered WLs a legal house can hire at any one time? Can local girls who are above 18 years old and Singapore citizens or PRs work in legal Geylang houses?

loneyheart
01-01-2017, 11:19 AM
Can legal Geylang houses set up website to show n advertise their stocks in photos like FL2 ?
My wishes in 2017 :p Happy New Year to alls :)

korean
01-01-2017, 12:06 PM
Can legal Geylang houses set up website to show n advertise their stocks in photos like FL2 ?
My wishes in 2017 :p Happy New Year to alls :)

I bet gl will be shutting down faster if housewife see those advertisement :D

Konnichiwawa
01-01-2017, 12:33 PM
If can go ask yr mom apply


Can legal Geylang houses be open 24 hours? Are there a maximum number of registered WLs a legal house can hire at any one time? Can local girls who are above 18 years old and Singapore citizens or PRs work in legal Geylang houses?

Fat Fatt
02-01-2017, 11:17 AM
Nice and informative thread.
But try not to divulge any houses not following the rules.
This forum is also used to collect info for the enforcers

Another possibility is once the rules are made known, there may be some cheongsters who got offended by okt and they squeal or whistle blow when they are aware of some violations.

We may not see our fav WL anymore if it happened to your particular house.

The above my thoughts. Although with the internet, information is actually available everywhere. This thread just makes it easy for them

BronzeGod
02-01-2017, 12:23 PM
Another possibility is once the rules are made known, there may be some cheongsters who got offended by okt and they squeal or whistle blow when they are aware of some violations.

We may not see our fav WL anymore if it happened to your particular house.

The above my thoughts. Although with the internet, information is actually available everywhere. This thread just makes it easy for them

I believe people with a mindset to sabo others will find a way to do so, whether or not this thread exists.

With this online sex forum, anyone and everyone can post information about the houses, OKT and girls - they can make posts to sabo or they can search for information via PM etc to find things to use to sabo.

Some have even gone to the extent of sabo-ing fellow samsters just because they are unhappy with something. Now this is something I feel not enough of us speak up when we see such things happening to other samsters. :confused:

Making the rules clearer to all would help in the sense that there'll be less blurness about what these rules are - bros who care about preserving geylang as it is will take care in cooperating with houses and WLs to ensure rules are followed.

Also, less people can bullshit about what the rules are or are not, as some use lies to threaten others etc.

On the point about OKT offending cheongsters, I am of the view that all OKT should be careful not to offend customers. OKT sometimes getting too arrogant and forgetting their place. :cool:

The only way to prevent saboing etc, is this whole forum close down or everyone just stop posting. Then no info for people to use to sabo or find out more about the houses and girls. Or even worse, sinister characters that like to dig info on other customers/samsters. :rolleyes:

No more posts, no one will be unhappy, because nothing to read or get angry about. This is also why few people post FR these days. Why risk our necks by posting FR?

If some information is too sensitive, then we leave it to individual discretion whether or not to share it. Hard to control. We can only advise if we see something that's not good or right.

But since this forum exists, let us then exchange information openly and truthfully, but bearing in mind that the general aim is to preserve and prosper geylang to make for happier bonks for all. Not to sabo anyone.

The above are just my thoughts. :)

BronzeGod
02-01-2017, 12:58 PM
Another possibility is once the rules are made known, there may be some cheongsters who got offended by okt and they squeal or whistle blow when they are aware of some violations.

We may not see our fav WL anymore if it happened to your particular house.

The above my thoughts. Although with the internet, information is actually available everywhere. This thread just makes it easy for them

I believe people with a mindset to sabo others will find a way to do so, whether or not this thread exists.

With this online sex forum, anyone and everyone can post information about the houses, OKT and girls - they can make posts to sabo or they can search for information via PM etc to find things to use to sabo.

Some have even gone to the extent of sabo-ing fellow samsters just because they are unhappy with something. Now this is something I feel not enough of us speak up when we see such things happening to other samsters.

Making the rules clearer to all would help in the sense that there'll be less blurness about what these rules are - bros who care about preserving geylang as it is will take care in cooperating with houses and WLs to ensure rules are followed.

Also, less people can bullshit about what the rules are or are not, as some use lies to threaten others etc.

On the point about OKT offending cheongsters, I am of the view that all OKT should be careful not to offend customers. OKT sometimes getting too arrogant and forgetting their place.

The only way to prevent saboing etc, is this whole forum close down or everyone just stop posting. Then no info for people to use to sabo or find out more about the houses and girls. Or even worse, sinister characters that like to dig info on other customers/samsters.

No more posts, no one will be unhappy, because nothing to read or get angry about. This is also why few people post FR these days. Why risk our necks by posting FR?

If some information is too sensitive, then we leave it to individual discretion whether or not to share it. Hard to control. We can only advise if we see something that's not good or right.

But since this forum exists, let us then exchange information openly and truthfully, but bearing in mind that the general aim is to preserve and prosper geylang to make for happier bonks for all. Not to sabo anyone.

The above are just my thoughts.

To add, I think people who try to sabo WL or OKT by reporting things to AV are truly scum.

And I feel sad for such individuals. Imagine how much effort they have to go to just to sit in the house or tail the WLs around to wait for something to report?

And then after that, how to produce evidence that rules were broken?

There's also the risk that such "whistleblowers" identity can be tracked and exposed.

So any potential sabo King here reading this thread, do think twice before playing with fire.

Karma has a way of striking back at sinister characters who do evil to others. ;)

OKT and WL are not dumb, there are ways and means to find out who the sabo king is :eek:

And don't forget the many kaypoh samsters who will be on your trail if you did something to sabo their fave WL or house.

Certainly not worth the loss of peace of mind, looking over your shoulder everyday wondering if you will get found out, just for the cheap thrill of "saboing" a WL or OKT due to some unhappiness. :cool:

miguela
02-01-2017, 09:53 PM
To add, I think people who try to sabo WL or OKT by reporting things to AV are truly scum.

And I feel sad for such individuals. Imagine how much effort they have to go to just to sit in the house or tail the WLs around to wait for something to report?

And then after that, how to produce evidence that rules were broken?

There's also the risk that such "whistleblowers" identity can be tracked and exposed.

So any potential sabo King here reading this thread, do think twice before playing with fire.

Karma has a way of striking back at sinister characters who do evil to others. ;)

OKT and WL are not dumb, there are ways and means to find out who the sabo king is :eek:

And don't forget the many kaypoh samsters who will be on your trail if you did something to sabo their fave WL or house.

Certainly not worth the loss of peace of mind, looking over your shoulder everyday wondering if you will get found out, just for the cheap thrill of "saboing" a WL or OKT due to some unhappiness. :cool:

well said, thanks for the feedback

Aily
03-01-2017, 05:09 PM
nice info!

baotohk
03-01-2017, 05:26 PM
To add, I think people who try to sabo WL or OKT by reporting things to AV are truly scum.

And I feel sad for such individuals. Imagine how much effort they have to go to just to sit in the house or tail the WLs around to wait for something to report?

And then after that, how to produce evidence that rules were broken?

There's also the risk that such "whistleblowers" identity can be tracked and exposed.

So any potential sabo King here reading this thread, do think twice before playing with fire.

Karma has a way of striking back at sinister characters who do evil to others. ;)

OKT and WL are not dumb, there are ways and means to find out who the sabo king is :eek:

And don't forget the many kaypoh samsters who will be on your trail if you did something to sabo their fave WL or house.

Certainly not worth the loss of peace of mind, looking over your shoulder everyday wondering if you will get found out, just for the cheap thrill of "saboing" a WL or OKT due to some unhappiness. :cool:

Reminded me of the sabo king who went to AV to report on Wenfang. :mad:

korean
03-01-2017, 05:44 PM
Reminded me of the sabo king who went to AV to report on Wenfang. :mad:

who is the sabo king? what happen :confused:

unfit
03-01-2017, 07:28 PM
who is the sabo king? what happen :confused:

He not happy WF married MS...complain lor:rolleyes:

elitez
03-01-2017, 07:32 PM
nice info, really learn a lot:cool:

korean
03-01-2017, 08:00 PM
He not happy WF married MS...complain lor:rolleyes:

what does MS mean? married or not none of his business eh? so WF sent back in the end?

elitez
03-01-2017, 08:14 PM
who is the sabo king? what happen :confused:

yes, i am curious to find out too:Dthanks bro

bonkhq69
03-01-2017, 11:55 PM
- WL must not wear too sexy be it inside or outside brother house (this is funny, we r nto living in muslim state or country and some other gal outside can wear as their liking as long as not exposing the private parts)
- No unprotected sex (oral, vagina, anus) (how many wl fulfil this criteria)
- Must accompanied by OKT when going out (how many wl fulfil this criteria)
- no gambling inside brother house (fail during cny)
- no alcohol inside brother house (fail)

agreed, you are really a lao jiao bro...

korean
04-01-2017, 12:12 AM
agreed, you are really a lao jiao bro...

probably u r more lao jiao than me bro :D I'm just a noob talking nonsense :p

BronzeGod
04-01-2017, 12:15 AM
agreed, you are really a lao jiao bro...

probably u r more lao jiao than me bro :D I'm just a noob talking nonsense :p

There's only one person here that always likes to emphasize who is laojiao and who is not laojiao :rolleyes:

For me I'm just a lan jiao:D

korean
04-01-2017, 12:18 AM
There's only one person here that likes to emphasize who is laojiao and who is not laojiao :rolleyes:

For me I'm just a lan jiao:D

I'm vege jiao :D

unfit
04-01-2017, 12:19 AM
There's only one person here that likes to emphasize who is laojiao and who is not laojiao :rolleyes:

For me I'm just a lan jiao:D

I am a tiny soft lan jiao :(

BronzeGod
04-01-2017, 12:20 AM
I'm vege jiao :D

I am a tiny soft lan jiao :(

I not much better. My jiao also nowadays give me attitude. Ask it to work, it goes to sleep :eek::D

korean
04-01-2017, 12:22 AM
I not much better. My jiao also nowadays give me attitude. Ask it to work, it goes to sleep :eek::D

my jiao vegetarian for half a yeah alredi, gotta 开斋 during cny festival :D

unfit
04-01-2017, 12:22 AM
I not much better. My jiao also nowadays give me attitude. Ask it to work, it goes to sleep :eek::D

Wow let's retire Brother :rolleyes:

korean
04-01-2017, 12:24 AM
Wow let's retire Brother :rolleyes:

bro u gonna retire? :D

Funzio
04-01-2017, 12:24 AM
I believe people with a mindset to sabo others will find a way to do so, whether or not this thread exists.

With this online sex forum, anyone and everyone can post information about the houses, OKT and girls - they can make posts to sabo or they can search for information via PM etc to find things to use to sabo.

Some have even gone to the extent of sabo-ing fellow samsters just because they are unhappy with something. Now this is something I feel not enough of us speak up when we see such things happening to other samsters. :confused:

Making the rules clearer to all would help in the sense that there'll be less blurness about what these rules are - bros who care about preserving geylang as it is will take care in cooperating with houses and WLs to ensure rules are followed.

Also, less people can bullshit about what the rules are or are not, as some use lies to threaten others etc.

On the point about OKT offending cheongsters, I am of the view that all OKT should be careful not to offend customers. OKT sometimes getting too arrogant and forgetting their place.

The only way to prevent saboing etc, is this whole forum close down or everyone just stop posting. Then no info for people to use to sabo or find out more about the houses and girls. Or even worse, sinister characters that like to dig info on other customers/samsters.

No more posts, no one will be unhappy, because nothing to read or get angry about. This is also why few people post FR these days. Why risk our necks by posting FR?

If some information is too sensitive, then we leave it to individual discretion whether or not to share it. Hard to control. We can only advise if we see something that's not good or right.

But since this forum exists, let us then exchange information openly and truthfully, but bearing in mind that the general aim is to preserve and prosper geylang to make for happier bonks for all. Not to sabo anyone.

The above are just my thoughts. :)

I am just a passerby observing from the sidelines :)
My observation is that the genuine cheongster do not bother to get himself involved. All the so called sabotage here sabotage there are actually by the people inside the trade, whether be it they are the okt or runner but mainly competitors sabo each other.
Dun get me involved as I am just passing by. Now that I've said my piece, I'm on my way. Bye :D

unfit
04-01-2017, 12:29 AM
bro u gonna retire? :D

Bopian little Joe going strike...LL early retirement...but no pension :(

korean
04-01-2017, 12:30 AM
I am just a passerby observing from the sidelines :)
My observation is that the genuine cheongster do not bother to get himself involved. All the so called sabotage here sabotage there are actually by the people inside the trade, whether be it they are the okt or runner but mainly competitors sabo each other.
Dun get me involved as I am just passing by. Now that I've said my piece, I'm on my way. Bye :D

thx for the inputs. Pls share more, dont just passing by n dissapear :D

Actually alot customers sabotage the WL when their r/s getting sour down the road. It is quite common.

korean
04-01-2017, 12:31 AM
Bopian little Joe going strike...LL early retirement...but no pension :(

hey litle joe still can raise flag still going strong :D

Funzio
04-01-2017, 12:31 AM
Personally I never like the AV guys, though so far I did not encounter any problem with them, I find them abusing their power by shouting at the pimp and the girls.

Many years back, my friend while waiting for me at the customer area had a big quarrel with the AV guys, one of the AV guy questioned him on why he was sitting there, he was not happy with my friend's answer when he said that he was waiting for me. The AV guy asked him get out of the house. When my friend refused, he threaten to arrest him. At the end my friend produced his warrant card, the AV guy got shocked on seeing his rank and appointment, immediately called for his IC (a woman).

Though the 4 of them including their OIC (over the phone) was reprimanded for abusing of their power right and did not comply to the protocols and procedures in front of everyone in the house, that was the last time my friend joined us in such outing.

Understanding from him that senior police officer (SP and above) are not allowed in such places unless they are on duty. Not sure how true is it?

I dun believe your story. The last thing any ranking officer would want to do is to identify himself in such circumstances especially in a place of ill repute.

unfit
04-01-2017, 12:48 AM
https://s24.postimg.org/uwq0kc9p1/image.jpg

Time to see doctor :D

hey litle joe still can raise flag still going strong :D

Gamesex
04-01-2017, 02:29 AM
Rule sex geylang?

Gamesex
04-01-2017, 02:32 AM
https://s24.postimg.org/uwq0kc9p1/image.jpg

Time to see doctor :D
Wooww the doctor

Rawall
04-01-2017, 09:13 AM
my jiao vegetarian for half a yeah alredi, gotta 开斋 during cny festival :D

Hehe, here's wishing you a bountiful CNY, bro Korean. Huat ah!!!

Why not have some side dishes in SG before the main course in CN. The popular CNY raw fish has already hit the menus here in SG you know :D

korean
04-01-2017, 10:52 AM
Hehe, here's wishing you a bountiful CNY, bro Korean. Huat ah!!!

Why not have some side dishes in SG before the main course in CN. The popular CNY raw fish has already hit the menus here in SG you know :D

raw fish dont anyhow take. :D

http://www.tnp.sg/news/singapore/raw-fish-meal-left-high-flyer-world-silence

hornyunclez
04-01-2017, 05:52 PM
The thing I still don't get is the rule about how the girls have to "cover up properly" when they are outside of the house, such as when they walk to and from the houses in-between duties.

I mean, in any case, I always see those beautiful Chinese lasses strutting around the streets wearing their sexy dresses, and the only thing they cover are their nice shoulders with a small scarf, which is usually 70% transparent at least. Their long sexy legs are still in full view, turning heads as they strut about.

So, what's the point of this rule? and why is this rule implemented in the first place? Afraid they might offend certain group of people of certain belief(s)?

ramon
04-01-2017, 07:57 PM
[QUOTE=hornyunclez;15496330]The thing I still don't get is the rule about how the girls have to "cover up properly" when they are outside of the house, such as when they walk to and from the houses in-between duties.

The point is AV knows the girls will dress sexily and not wear sweat pants but at the same time, how do you be specific about hemlines and necklines?

So when they said cover up properly, it's either the girls have to cover their boobs or their butt cheeks as they are walking along the street.

The interpretation is left to the girls and the enforcement to the AV.

When our government legalised prostitution, it doesn't mean they want to promote it..they rather keep it low key and don't forget...there are alot of Buddhist temples, churches and mosques around that area...

bonkhq69
04-01-2017, 09:02 PM
https://s24.postimg.org/uwq0kc9p1/image.jpg

Time to see doctor :D

She a nurse lah, not doc:D

hornyunclez
04-01-2017, 10:48 PM
[QUOTE=hornyunclez;15496330]The thing I still don't get is the rule about how the girls have to "cover up properly" when they are outside of the house, such as when they walk to and from the houses in-between duties.

The point is AV knows the girls will dress sexily and not wear sweat pants but at the same time, how do you be specific about hemlines and necklines?

So when they said cover up properly, it's either the girls have to cover their boobs or their butt cheeks as they are walking along the street.

The interpretation is left to the girls and the enforcement to the AV.

When our government legalised prostitution, it doesn't mean they want to promote it..they rather keep it low key and don't forget...there are alot of Buddhist temples, churches and mosques around that area...

Ah, but yea I shouldn't have questioned anything about the legal prostitution scene. This scene is literally the only thing that separated me from massive depression and even worse and staying sane enough to function in my daily life

Yea that's very true also about your last sentence especially.

Very often, fresh from a hardcore fuck with acts that I certainly wouldn't dare to tell my own mother about 0.1% of the details either in Lorong 16 or 20, as I walk to either the bus stop or the coffee shops to get some post-sex beer, very often I would bump onto all the following groups: A group of well-dressed aunties and older men carrying bibles, a group of Muslim youths with prayer caps and headscarfes, and a group of some sort of Buddhist youths around there who look so nerdy and innocent all of them. ENcountering these groups after such acts that I did inside the brothel made me blush a bit inside lol

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Another question is that, is it okay for the AVs if let's say we bring a relative/friend who has some kind of disability to have a good time in the legal brothels? I am more talking about bringing someone with conditions such as Down's syndrome or severe autism that kinda condition.

Would the OKTs and most importantly the girls be okay with serving them? I know for the girls the most crucial thing for them is our $$$, but still...

roamario
04-01-2017, 11:21 PM
Another question is that, is it okay for the AVs if let's say we bring a relative/friend who has some kind of disability to have a good time in the legal brothels? I am more talking about bringing someone with conditions such as Down's syndrome or severe autism that kinda condition.

Would the OKTs and most importantly the girls be okay with serving them? I know for the girls the most crucial thing for them is our $$$, but still...

It's not about the girl or the OKT, it's about the person you're bringing. You never know what sex will do to them. They might freak out, or have a severe episode of whatever it is they have, or become addicted to WLs... who's going to be responsible?
You may have good intentions to let them experience something you find enjoyable, but their minds may not be working like normal people's.

Grounded Eagle
05-01-2017, 02:00 AM
I dun believe your story. The last thing any ranking officer would want to do is to identify himself in such circumstances especially in a place of ill repute.

Precisely.... if he is a high rank officer as claimed..... he dun even need to id himself. All he need to do is just make a call and the message will be passed down to the ground officers checking on him in that house.

bonkhq69
05-01-2017, 04:22 AM
yes agreed, they dont reveal themselves easily

BronzeGod
05-01-2017, 05:55 PM
There's only one person here that always likes to emphasize who is laojiao and who is not laojiao :rolleyes:

For me I'm just a lan jiao:D

Someone zapped me with an 8 pointer account for this post.

No prizes for guessing who. :D

rawmaster101
05-01-2017, 06:20 PM
another rule:
1. OKT/Helper cannot try their own house girls. Other houses girl can try but cannot try at their own house, must go to others houses.

for this rule, i know few OKTs violate it. Not so good so name it here

cassano10
05-01-2017, 06:50 PM
another rule:
1. OKT/Helper cannot try their own house girls. Other houses girl can try but cannot try at their own house, must go to others houses.

for this rule, i know few OKTs violate it. Not so good so name it here

I knew a house boss who tried his own gals. And its an open secret among the gals. That was in 2008. That gal treat herself as the boss's wife.
Surprisingly when the boss dump her, she didn't report him to the AV.

StealthBomber
05-01-2017, 09:35 PM
I knew a house boss who tried his own gals. And its an open secret among the gals. That was in 2008. That gal treat herself as the boss's wife.
Surprisingly when the boss dump her, she didn't report him to the AV.

Surprised the boss would up his own house girl. No need to have official rule, even common sense tells one that it shouldn't be done.

With a special relationship, the girl would be uncontrollable for sure ...

rawmaster101
06-01-2017, 01:16 PM
Surprised the boss would up his own house girl. No need to have official rule, even common sense tells one that it shouldn't be done.

With a special relationship, the girl would be uncontrollable for sure ...

got what suprised leh bro...OKTs also normal like us. got urge as well even old liao. Imagine everyday can see them wearing so sexy exposing half ball and short skirt exposing panties. who can tahan. plus some house girls actually living in the same place they working. when rest day, they will braless walking in walking out. even got one time when i visit those house, those girl will bend down to take somethings exposing full boobs in front of the customer and the OKTs as well. but agree for those got relationship with their own boss, will really uncontrollable, can do everything they want. even some ladies getting full payment for every session (instead of getting 80 for each session, got 150 including own boss portion). those girl are smart, even sometimes will blackmail their own boss if not follow their needs. if not will reported to AV and license suspended. but cons for WLs, they need to meet their boss sexual need everynite including allow them to raw as well..

adonis
06-01-2017, 02:08 PM
Hello rawmaster101. If the legal Geylang WL is having sex with her OKT, she cun't report this to the Government licensing department or AV Police because she'll be deported out of Singapore. There was a fellow who posted in SBF that he is a Geylang OKT runner. He said he is flown to PRC to have unprotected sex with wannabee PRC girls. He ejaculated in the girls. To test out the girls coming to Geylang.

rawmaster101
06-01-2017, 06:15 PM
Hello rawmaster101. If the legal Geylang WL is having sex with her OKT, she cun't report this to the Government licensing department or AV Police because she'll be deported out of Singapore. There was a fellow who posted in SBF that he is a Geylang OKT runner. He said he is flown to PRC to have unprotected sex with wannabee PRC girls. He ejaculated in the girls. To test out the girls coming to Geylang.


i know, both okt and girl will kenna...okt licensed revoke, girl sent home. but between the two, who do you think lose more. sure okt, totally lose income and business, girl still can trade her pussy in other country.

ATCong
06-01-2017, 07:05 PM
Hello rawmaster101. If the legal Geylang WL is having sex with her OKT, she cun't report this to the Government licensing department or AV Police because she'll be deported out of Singapore. There was a fellow who posted in SBF that he is a Geylang OKT runner. He said he is flown to PRC to have unprotected sex with wannabee PRC girls. He ejaculated in the girls. To test out the girls coming to Geylang.
Why need to ejaculate into the girls as a form of testing ?

famydao
06-01-2017, 07:26 PM
Why need to cum inside for testing?

ramon
06-01-2017, 07:39 PM
It's not about the girl or the OKT, it's about the person you're bringing. You never know what sex will do to them. They might freak out, or have a severe episode of whatever it is they have, or become addicted to WLs... who's going to be responsible?
You may have good intentions to let them experience something you find enjoyable, but their minds may not be working like normal people's.

There are houses and WLs who provide services to this group of 'handicapped' clientele...as morbid or crazy you might think....other than getting paid, they are doing a good 'deed' by helping this group.

famydao
06-01-2017, 07:59 PM
this is a very good read, i have really learnt a lot from you all:)

unfit
06-01-2017, 08:41 PM
Why need to ejaculate into the girls as a form of testing ?

Why need to cum inside for testing?


Fertility testing:D

StealthBomber
06-01-2017, 11:44 PM
Why need to ejaculate into the girls as a form of testing ?

Sounds fun, but actually is world's deadliest job ... :D

On the topic of bbbj, raw, watever risky stuff, i was ever told by a WL that if they get "sick" (meaning catch std), straightaway stop work and sent back to their home country. Not even allowed to recuperate and continue work, for those recoverable cases. Hence the insistence on condom. True?

... Maybe bcos i didn't wave more $ :D

adonis
15-01-2017, 09:56 AM
Hi StealthBomber. I was told legal Geylang WLs who caught a minor STD will be detected by a doctor in the CDC. The WLs will be put on medication or undergo treatment. They attend 'C' (cannot work). After they recover, a doctor in the CDC checks them to see that they have recovered. Then they go back to doing what they were doing. This is only heresay. I do not have proof.

bullterrier
20-01-2017, 12:19 PM
We have heard many cases of AV officers abusing their rights and authority beyond what is normally acceptable and the WL plus the boss have to "kow tow" and endure in silence. There a few notable figures within the AV with suck temper, but of course there are some who are more cultured and civilised.

There must be some level of control in all aspect, just that there is no proper feedback control.

There are AV rules for the WLs. for obvious reasons as in fact the yellow card is not officially known to the public as a form of work ID. Since we allow such work we might as well give the WL a proper work permit instead of a yellow card and a photocopy of the passport with the seal.

When these gals need to go to the doctor to seek treatment for even mild cold or cough the while clinic staff will know what they are doing when they show the photo copied passport. But of course the WLs have their regular doctors which we call the WL doctors hence lesser embarrassment. But what if the WL need to go to bigger hospitals for some surgery, then it could be quite an embarrassment.
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The govt did a very good job to issue the yellow card and allow this job to be legalise to some extent hence eliminating to a great extent illegal prostitution. More can be done to provide better welfare for the WLs.

The behaviour of the AV is an issue which has to be controlled. When the Av officers are on duty they have to wear their pass. They have no right to shout at anyone including the WLs and the customers. If they do, you may take down their name and report to Police HQ after you leave the place, and there is no need to confront or quarrel, and best if you have a witness to back you up. This is the last thing they want to happen as this will affect their promotion. You must know your rights as a customer. Do not worry about them informing your family or what as they are now supposed to since you did not do anything illegal. You may also like to protect the WLs if you see the AV shout and bully them with a simple feedback of what you saw.

I used to cheong massage parlours. The AVs can be intimidating and anyone can be scared, but as long as you remember you pay tax to pay for their salary you will feel otherwise. We do not pay for the AV to abuse their power.

They have no right to arrest you as long as you do not cause disruption to their work. This does not mean that you cannot ask questions or ask why they are rude. I have complained against a few officers because they are fierce and shooed me away when I walk past some incidents. They will reply with an apology email and they will look into it.

We are not in the 1950s Hong Kong days.

Even if the raid does take place in the brothel, you have every right as a customer. If they chase you out they must have a warrant. You may write in to Police HQ and enquire whether the raid is issued with the warrant to flush out the customers.

Hope points taken.