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kellywonderland
08-09-2016, 06:10 PM
I am 18 years old this year, so I wanted to start off as model and I quoted $200 per hour to do nude photoshoot since I did some research around that it should be around this price.

I got quite a number of requests for photoshoots but I also received quite a number of warning messages from white knights as well.

They told me it is definitely a wrong step to do nude photoshoot in Singapore somehow as pictures will get leaked and shared to forums etc, people will blackmail me in future, some people will post them on tumblr or paid ads to earn money as well as blackhearted photographers who would resell my pictures to make more profits.

There was this particular someone who warned me about two guys I need to look out for.

One is Edwin Lim. The person told me he was a photoshoot organizer that always organized sleazy photoshoots and exploited from models by making them doing erotic lesbian, nude shoots.

Another person is daretoimpress. The person told me he is currently actively finding models to shoot nude to resell their nude pictures for profits also fabricating stories of models willing to strip in front of him to let him shoot and have sex.

Are all these true stories?

I am still new to this modelling industry so I do hope experienced people can advice me more on what should I take note when dealing with such photographers.


I am not keen to work as a FL or sugarbabe. But I do not wish to work as a Mcdonalds crew girl as well. Mainly just need some extra cash to shop and club.

Actually I do not really care how people judge my nude pictures since I am quite open minded, but still it gets pretty annoying when people keep telling me it is wrong....

sammyboyfor
08-09-2016, 06:18 PM
You seem to be confused about exactly what nude modeling is.

When a photographer shoots nudes he pays the model for the right to use the images to make money. Photography is a business. If a photographer pays you $400 for a two hour shoot it is because he hopes to be able to recoup that amount plus more by selling the images to third parties eg a website or a publication. This is not exploitation. This is a business transaction.

There is no point shooting nudes if the images cannot be used commercially unless the photographer is a pervert who just wants to use the images to jerk off to or is using the photo session as an excuse to get you to undress. Pervert photographers are known as "Guys with Cameras". They know very little about photography. They just want to see naked bodies and hope to bed you.

If you do not want your nude images to be viewed by the general public then DON'T do nude modeling because once they are taken they will definitely end up being leaked and circulated no matter what the photographer promises regarding keeping them for himself.

However if you have no issues with the images being published then go for it.

Professional nude models don't worry about images being published by photographers. They will publish their own nude images in order to further their modeling careers. Example : http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/3077662/viewall

No proper photographer will shoot nudes and ask for sex too. I have shot hundreds of nude images but I have never even touched the models plus I always have a chaperone present to protect myself against any false accusations of impropriety.

ddog
08-09-2016, 07:03 PM
Sammy boss say is true. Photographer have different type no same

1. GWC = Shoot see see girls body (majority)
2. Shady pervert (with intention to molest, make money out of pic, touch models)
3. Ethical professional (just like create good good pic and art like.. ahem, Ddog)

Start out as nude people expect nothing less than nude thereafter. Sleazy is different category. If sis see see some models like Rebecca, seldom shoot with average quality photographer. That is quality control.

Edwin Lim is old man wearing hat, skinny, hiding under many names, always can see him in cosplay recruiting and modelling events. He always spot Ddog, knows who but stay afar... bcos can bite! hehe...

If sis doing modelling best be independent, can earn more unless agent unless trustworthy, keep sugary image and ants will come. If want advise local market can ask Ddog.

sammyboyfor
08-09-2016, 07:24 PM
If sis doing modelling best be independent, can earn more unless agent unless trustworthy, keep sugary image and ants will come. If want advise local market can ask Ddog.

Perhaps she can start off doing implied nudes or poses that hide her identity.

EG this image was shot for a Yoga / Fitness studio brochure. Subject was happy to show off her toned body but did not want identity revealed.

44950

newyorker88
08-09-2016, 08:32 PM
Agree w boss. Think carefully before u made the decision of no return

Photoshoots
08-09-2016, 09:27 PM
about nude modelling in singapore, there are already so many leaked nudes in this forum. if you start doing nudes, then there is so much evidence just staring at you in the face that you should prepare for it to be leaked even with NDA signed

sometimes models will just look at the money and because they want the money...well they just ignore the reality and pretend that signing a NDA will guarantee the secrecy of their nudes forever

this is really the wrong attitude and is so silly. look, once the money spent finish, the nude photos will still be there ! 5 years, 10 years , 20 years it will still be there but the money long ago spent already

for nude modelling, it requires girls who are OK with letting the world see their naked body, i believe recently got a local model who went topless for a movie...yeah it requires a person with THE suitable mindset. some girls are very very shy, some girls are the complete opposite and totally dun give a damn.

the problem is when a shy girl decides to take the risk and do nude modelling because she wants the money......then after the money spend finish how ?

so my conclusion is this

if you mind ppl seeing ur nude pics - then dun do nudes

if you dun mind ppl seeing ur nude pics - then do nudes

sounds very simple, but u keep seeing shy girls doing nudes...then hoping that nothing leaks.....

samster101
08-09-2016, 09:41 PM
No, it is not wrong to do a nude shoot. It is a matter of whether you will regret it many years down the road. Lets say you are in your 30s. When you meet your ex-classmate / colleague / someone you hate and if she giggles when she looks at her phone and at you, if you are fine with it, then go ahead.

OwlBrain
08-09-2016, 09:53 PM
No, it is not wrong to do a nude shoot. It is a matter of whether you will regret it many years down the road. Lets say you are in your 30s. When you meet your ex-classmate / colleague / someone you hate and if she giggles when she looks at her phone and at you, if you are fine with it, then go ahead.

Agree with you bro

sadfa
09-09-2016, 01:06 AM
I am 18 years old this year, so I wanted to start off as model and I quoted $200 per hour to do nude photoshoot since I did some research around that it should be around this price.

I got quite a number of requests for photoshoots but I also received quite a number of warning messages from white knights as well.

They told me it is definitely a wrong step to do nude photoshoot in Singapore somehow as pictures will get leaked and shared to forums etc, people will blackmail me in future, some people will post them on tumblr or paid ads to earn money as well as blackhearted photographers who would resell my pictures to make more profits.

There was this particular someone who warned me about two guys I need to look out for.

One is Edwin Lim. The person told me he was a photoshoot organizer that always organized sleazy photoshoots and exploited from models by making them doing erotic lesbian, nude shoots.

Another person is daretoimpress. The person told me he is currently actively finding models to shoot nude to resell their nude pictures for profits also fabricating stories of models willing to strip in front of him to let him shoot and have sex.

Are all these true stories?

I am still new to this modelling industry so I do hope experienced people can advice me more on what should I take note when dealing with such photographers.


I am not keen to work as a FL or sugarbabe. But I do not wish to work as a Mcdonalds crew girl as well. Mainly just need some extra cash to shop and club.

Actually I do not really care how people judge my nude pictures since I am quite open minded, but still it gets pretty annoying when people keep telling me it is wrong....

You don't seem to have the maturity to do nudes.

The main issue is you don't want to be exploited.
Unless you think you can get more money than wad you're paid, there's no exploitation. So it doesn't matter if the photog makes 1k selling your nudes. If you're not happy, u can always cut the middlemen. But you'll find difficulty doing so.

And you're asking if this story is true or not.
Just take it its true ok.
In fact I do one better. I can tell you gals can be touched inappropriately or even end up being fcuked when they're 'unwilling'. Scared?

If you thought it through very carefully n really don't care if ppl see your nudes, then it doesn't matter others say its wrong. Just like There are some gers who don't mind being a pros though the majority mind

And there's nothin wrong working in macdonalds.
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You got maturity to exchange points ma?

davistehjinhooi
09-09-2016, 01:49 AM
Hi Kelly, I'm currently looking for nude models. I'm a organizer and a freelancer Photographers from Penang. Interested can PM me in Facebook at Venom Photographers

wondergal
09-09-2016, 07:55 AM
If you do not want your nude images to be viewed by the general public then DON'T do nude modeling because once they are taken they will definitely end up being leaked and circulated no matter what the photographer promises regarding keeping them for himself.

However if you have no issues with the images being published then go for it.


This is very very true... so so easy to understand. I refuse to have nude photos taken all my life.

69monster
09-09-2016, 08:27 AM
are you asking if it is "illegal" rather than "wrong" to do nude shoot?

under the sg law, you cannot do nude shoot in public areas.. you could be charge for indecency...however if you do it behind the doors and keep it private it is a total different story..

i do tons of nude shoot but i dont share them unless i get the approval from the model.

Beware , there are blacksheep in every iindustry

here is a list of the top 15 blacksheeps complied by a blogger( not me).. many of them are actually samsters..

and yes the infamous edwin lim and stefan quek are in the list.. you can see their face there.

stefen is at number 2 and edwin is at number 8

http://www.360doc.com/content/15/0628/07/7098507_481162823.shtml



I am 18 years old this year, so I wanted to start off as model and I quoted $200 per hour to do nude photoshoot since I did some research around that it should be around this price.

I got quite a number of requests for photoshoots but I also received quite a number of warning messages from white knights as well.

They told me it is definitely a wrong step to do nude photoshoot in Singapore somehow as pictures will get leaked and shared to forums etc, people will blackmail me in future, some people will post them on tumblr or paid ads to earn money as well as blackhearted photographers who would resell my pictures to make more profits.

There was this particular someone who warned me about two guys I need to look out for.

One is Edwin Lim. The person told me he was a photoshoot organizer that always organized sleazy photoshoots and exploited from models by making them doing erotic lesbian, nude shoots.

Another person is daretoimpress. The person told me he is currently actively finding models to shoot nude to resell their nude pictures for profits also fabricating stories of models willing to strip in front of him to let him shoot and have sex.

Are all these true stories?

I am still new to this modelling industry so I do hope experienced people can advice me more on what should I take note when dealing with such photographers.


I am not keen to work as a FL or sugarbabe. But I do not wish to work as a Mcdonalds crew girl as well. Mainly just need some extra cash to shop and club.

Actually I do not really care how people judge my nude pictures since I am quite open minded, but still it gets pretty annoying when people keep telling me it is wrong....

Abcdefghijklmn
09-09-2016, 01:50 PM
admitted to what ?

I feel quite sad to see you dragging in innoncent ppl and potentially harming their reputation and relationships just because you want to spread rumors about another person. this kind of actions is very bad and hopefully u can reconsider your actions

Here is a screenshot of the whole thing and we can all see the whole story. I wont say so much about your character or the nonsense of your claims.



Bro, does she give permission to show "face"

samster101
09-09-2016, 02:10 PM
admitted to what ?

I feel quite sad to see you dragging in innoncent ppl and potentially harming their reputation and relationships just because you want to spread rumors about another person. this kind of actions is very bad and hopefully u can reconsider your actions

Here is a screenshot of the whole thing and we can all see the whole story. I wont say so much about your character or the nonsense of your claims.



Waaa......

Looking at the pics from left to right, the story seems like

1. the model was sleeping.
2. you undressed her blouse. (reverse 1 and 2 order)
3. she turned in her sleep
4. you took more pictures of her state of undress
5. model woke up angry. Clenched fist at you.
6. model waved hand to argue with you
7. model point finger at you to give her pics back
8. you show her your camera got pictures of tree branches only
9. a macro pic to prove you are a "real" professional photographer

:(:(

sammyboyfor
09-09-2016, 02:15 PM
Waaa......

Looking at the pics from left to right, the story seems like

1. the model was sleeping.
2. you undressed her blouse. (reverse 1 and 2 order)
3. she turned in her sleep
4. you took more pictures of her state of undress
5. model woke up angry. Clenched fist at you.
6. model waved hand to argue with you
7. model point finger at you to give her pics back
8. you show her your camera got pictures of tree branches only
9. a macro pic to prove you are a "real" professional photographer

:(:(

I like the pictures. They tell a story plus there is more to cum. I eagerly await the next chapter although it seems to be a long time coming. :D

icecream2015
09-09-2016, 02:29 PM
Waaa......

Looking at the pics from left to right, the story seems like

1. the model was sleeping.
2. you undressed her blouse. (reverse 1 and 2 order)
3. she turned in her sleep
4. you took more pictures of her state of undress
5. model woke up angry. Clenched fist at you.
6. model waved hand to argue with you
7. model point finger at you to give her pics back
8. you show her your camera got pictures of tree branches only
9. a macro pic to prove you are a "real" professional photographer

:(:(

Yeah.... i like your storyline. Shows how sick the guy is.

letmetellyou
09-09-2016, 02:33 PM
happening thread. grabs popcorn to watch for more shows.

analbasher
09-09-2016, 02:47 PM
Agree w boss. Think carefully before u made the decision of no return

Agreed with both
Please consider before making your decision, there is no turning back.

sammyboyfor
09-09-2016, 03:34 PM
Haha so you are indeed daretoimpress.... thanks for confirmation.

Seriously what diff does it make who's who. :confused: I use a different nick on Instagram. In fact I have at least 5 nicks in active use at any one time on various sites.

Everyone is entitled to pursue their hobbies and as long as the terms of agreement of the shoot is not breached it is entirely between the model and the photographer.

The best photographers in the world started off as amateurs too. How they progress all depends on how well they build up their skills and trustworthiness.

There seem to be tons of white knights in this forum. One team to save whores and another to save models. :D

Chill out guys. As long as nobody is cheated or exploited I don't see what the issue is.

TempLust
09-09-2016, 04:12 PM
Seriously what diff does it make who's who. :confused: I use a different nick on Instagram. In fact I have at least 5 nicks in active use at any one time on various sites.

Everyone is entitled to pursue their hobbies and as long as the terms of agreement of the shoot is not breached it is entirely between the model and the photographer.

The best photographers in the world started off as amateurs too. How they progress all depends on how well they build up their skills and trustworthiness.

There seem to be tons of white knights in this forum. One team to save whores and another to save models. :D

Chill out guys. As long as nobody is cheated or exploited I don't see what the issue is.

It's just the 18yo thing. How gullible and naive she offers herself for the nude shoots followed by some ignorant questions that triggered both the heroes and vultures.

As you have rightfully stated both the reality and facts to her. 18 or not, she should be old enough to judge if she genuinely wants to plunge head long into this.

kellywonderland
09-09-2016, 06:37 PM
I got an offer from a guy called Kobe Shaq for nude shoot for $250 per hour

Is he trustable?

Thanks everyone for the kind feedback.

TempLust
09-09-2016, 07:04 PM
Did you even read and clicked into the linked that this nice guy shared with you earlier ?

are you asking if it is "illegal" rather than "wrong" to do nude shoot?

under the sg law, you cannot do nude shoot in public areas.. you could be charge for indecency...however if you do it behind the doors and keep it private it is a total different story..

i do tons of nude shoot but i dont share them unless i get the approval from the model.

Beware , there are blacksheep in every iindustry

here is a list of the top 15 blacksheeps complied by a blogger( not me).. many of them are actually samsters..

and yes the infamous edwin lim and stefan quek are in the list.. you can see their face there.

stefen is at number 2 and edwin is at number 8

http://www.360doc.com/content/15/0628/07/7098507_481162823.shtml

sadfa
09-09-2016, 09:07 PM
I got an offer from a guy called Kobe Shaq for nude shoot for $250 per hour

Is he trustable?

Thanks everyone for the kind feedback.

Please la! You expect the public to vet photogs for you?
You got read anot?

I bet you'll post out everything he did, including plying you with alcoholic beverages. Very soon, no one with look for you.
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Exchange points need to vet?

sadfa
09-09-2016, 09:10 PM
Waaa......

Looking at the pics from left to right, the story seems like

1. the model was sleeping.
2. you undressed her blouse. (reverse 1 and 2 order)
3. she turned in her sleep
4. you took more pictures of her state of undress
5. model woke up angry. Clenched fist at you.
6. model waved hand to argue with you
7. model point finger at you to give her pics back
8. you show her your camera got pictures of tree branches only
9. a macro pic to prove you are a "real" professional photographer

:(:(

Hahaha. The pics montage worthy of the worst porno script writing.

For no 5, propose to change to gal woke up n say ccb. Want to see my neh neh? Come see la!!
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Exchange points got script ma?

faszcom
10-09-2016, 11:08 AM
I got an offer from a guy called Kobe Shaq for nude shoot for $250 per hour

Is he trustable?

Thanks everyone for the kind feedback.

We cannot say if trustable or not, it depend.
Usually what I did was,
- Nude but face was somehow covered or partial block.
- Let the model review all the photos on-site and delete what she think is not a good shot or over exposed.

samster101
10-09-2016, 04:35 PM
I got an offer from a guy called Kobe Shaq for nude shoot for $250 per hour

Is he trustable?

Thanks everyone for the kind feedback.

2) Stefan Quek Keng Swan, koebshaq0_0

Famous in SBF (a.k.a sammyboyforum) for posting nude pictures and sharing his collections! He’s on constant look out for chances to bed models during his shoots and share his victory stories in forum, for guys to envy him.

His latest method to get more girls to shoot nude, is by threatening existing models to find him new targets or else he might just leak their nude pictures online “accidentally”.

Sandunes
10-09-2016, 05:28 PM
if you are scared your photos get shared in public, dun do it. you will regret for life.
there are other means of making money. :D

it is hard to ask us who can be trusted, end of the day, if you put your 'trust' in the wrong person, the photos get leaked out, it is too late to regret anything for that $400 you earned.

sadfa
10-09-2016, 07:38 PM
2) Stefan Quek Keng Swan, koebshaq0_0

Famous in SBF (a.k.a sammyboyforum) for posting nude pictures and sharing his collections! He’s on constant look out for chances to bed models during his shoots and share his victory stories in forum, for guys to envy him.

His latest method to get more girls to shoot nude, is by threatening existing models to find him new targets or else he might just leak their nude pictures online “accidentally”.

It's shocking these fcukers still use such methods to get sex or things from dumb broads.

Report n demand the cb police do something.

Those ex bf who demand farewell sex if not they'll reveal nude photos of ex gf all got jailed so why not these photogs??
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Exchange points shocking ma?

kellywonderland
13-09-2016, 12:15 AM
Managed to earn $800 over the weekends and I guess I was lucky to meet good photographers who did not request me to do nude shoots.

Some even told me not to do it at all. So I guess I will stick to lingerie shoots at the moment at max.

I met an old man wearing cap asking for my contacts when I was at MBS for my shoot. Think it was some event called STGCC as there were many young cosplayers running around. I remembered what ddog said and immediately rejected him.

LonelyVDay
13-09-2016, 01:56 AM
Managed to earn $800 over the weekends and I guess I was lucky to meet good photographers who did not request me to do nude shoots.

Some even told me not to do it at all. So I guess I will stick to lingerie shoots at the moment at max.

I met an old man wearing cap asking for my contacts when I was at MBS for my shoot. Think it was some event called STGCC as there were many young cosplayers running around. I remembered what ddog said and immediately rejected him.

It is wise of you to make a right decision. I hope you do not go into the wrong step like me. You still have a bright future sis.

Avoid that old man at all costs. He is still preying on those young models and cosplayers... It is a pretty sad scene that local photographers do not have balls to expose him big big with all the sagas happening...

sadfa
13-09-2016, 02:26 AM
It is wise of you to make a right decision. I hope you do not go into the wrong step like me. You still have a bright future sis.

Avoid that old man at all costs. He is still preying on those young models and cosplayers... It is a pretty sad scene that local photographers do not have balls to expose him big big with all the sagas happening...

Why? Wat did the old man do.
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Exchange points? What did you do?

MeltDown2008
13-09-2016, 04:34 AM
if you are scared your photos get shared in public, dun do it. you will regret for life.
there are other means of making money. :D

it is hard to ask us who can be trusted, end of the day, if you put your 'trust' in the wrong person, the photos get leaked out, it is too late to regret anything for that $400 you earned.

Very well said

wondergal
17-09-2016, 09:55 AM
if you are scared your photos get shared in public, dun do it. you will regret for life.
there are other means of making money. :D

it is hard to ask us who can be trusted, end of the day, if you put your 'trust' in the wrong person, the photos get leaked out, it is too late to regret anything for that $400 you earned.

This is so true. Even nude photos taken by boyfriend can become a risk when the relationship break down.

CumExplorer
17-09-2016, 10:18 AM
so my conclusion is this

if you mind ppl seeing ur nude pics - then dun do nudes

if you dun mind ppl seeing ur nude pics - then do nudes

sounds very simple, but u keep seeing shy girls doing nudes...then hoping that nothing leaks.....

well said bro, very simple

But i see ts will want the fast $$$, good she not do the nude now :D

CumExplorer
17-09-2016, 10:19 AM
2) Stefan Quek Keng Swan, koebshaq0_0

Famous in SBF (a.k.a sammyboyforum) for posting nude pictures and sharing his collections! He’s on constant look out for chances to bed models during his shoots and share his victory stories in forum, for guys to envy him.

His latest method to get more girls to shoot nude, is by threatening existing models to find him new targets or else he might just leak their nude pictures online “accidentally”.

bro u r really knowledgeable about the industry ...

Rickey
17-09-2016, 10:23 AM
This is so true. Even nude photos taken by boyfriend can become a risk when the relationship break down.
Yes u r so rite sis wondergal...can't understand why so many gullible gals let their "official" bfs or even sumtimes those casual ones take nude pixs of themselves :(....it will definitely come back to haunt them later when their r/s break down which happens all the time...b4 they eventually settle down & marry one...it's not just "a" risk but a v. "BIG" one, as we know some gals change their bfs pretty often like nobody's biz....;)...

..sigh...bfs of 2day r so different frm bfs of yrs ago when they hv sex ONLY wif the gal they eventually marry which means to say both parties are virgins till the day they marry

Pongsak
17-09-2016, 10:28 AM
Managed to earn $800 over the weekends and I guess I was lucky to meet good photographers who did not request me to do nude shoots.

Some even told me not to do it at all. So I guess I will stick to lingerie shoots at the moment at max.

I met an old man wearing cap asking for my contacts when I was at MBS for my shoot. Think it was some event called STGCC as there were many young cosplayers running around. I remembered what ddog said and immediately rejected him.

Congrats to you.

Tell us more about the old man.

PatrickCowboy
17-09-2016, 11:11 AM
are you asking if it is "illegal" rather than "wrong" to do nude shoot?

under the sg law, you cannot do nude shoot in public areas.. you could be charge for indecency...however if you do it behind the doors and keep it private it is a total different story..

i do tons of nude shoot but i dont share them unless i get the approval from the model.

Beware , there are blacksheep in every iindustry

here is a list of the top 15 blacksheeps complied by a blogger( not me).. many of them are actually samsters..

and yes the infamous edwin lim and stefan quek are in the list.. you can see their face there.

stefen is at number 2 and edwin is at number 8

http://www.360doc.com/content/15/0628/07/7098507_481162823.shtml

So interesting topic.

omgwtfknn
17-09-2016, 02:02 PM
Managed to earn $800 over the weekends and I guess I was lucky to meet good photographers who did not request me to do nude shoots.

Some even told me not to do it at all. So I guess I will stick to lingerie shoots at the moment at max.

I met an old man wearing cap asking for my contacts when I was at MBS for my shoot. Think it was some event called STGCC as there were many young cosplayers running around. I remembered what ddog said and immediately rejected him.

Well done TS, and play safe.

Photoshoots
17-09-2016, 03:35 PM
I think this modelling community has enough drama and stories to writr a movie

tikogoh
18-09-2016, 04:05 AM
Yes u r so rite sis wondergal...can't understand why so many gullible gals let their "official" bfs or even sumtimes those casual ones take nude pixs of themselves :(....it will definitely come back to haunt them later when their r/s break down which happens all the time...b4 they eventually settle down & marry one...it's not just "a" risk but a v. "BIG" one, as we know some gals change their bfs pretty often like nobody's biz....;)...

..sigh...bfs of 2day r so different frm bfs of yrs ago when they hv sex ONLY wif the gal they eventually marry which means to say both parties are virgins till the day they marry

that's because the traditional upbringing is not continued and also from western influence. Just like shaven pussies. Nowadays girls trim or shave the hairs down there, not like before. Well, for us guys, it's a good change, in a way.

Jami3
18-09-2016, 09:07 AM
You can start out slowly.
dont do nudes yet.
until you can trust the photographer.

Jami3
18-09-2016, 09:35 AM
Or, without exposing your full face,
topless, in silhouette.


[sammyboyimage]

Half2
18-09-2016, 10:33 AM
You can start out slowly.
dont do nudes yet.
until you can trust the photographer.

Good advice.

Rickey
18-09-2016, 11:23 AM
that's because the traditional upbringing is not continued and also from western influence. Just like shaven pussies. Nowadays girls trim or shave the hairs down there, not like before. Well, for us guys, it's a good change, in a way.
Totally agree wif u, bro..in the end they r really the losers...since they r so promiscuous these days, something of their own choosing, they cannot come back later & complain being taken advantage of & their nude photos circulating around in the internet...the principle of "caveat emptor" applies i.e. beware & be careful of wat u r gonna do...tink of the consequences, will it come back to haunt u ??...but tis is always easier said than done...passion & heat of the moment overrides everything else...sigh...den it's too late for regrets...

xucker
18-09-2016, 03:43 PM
Good advice.

Very true actually.

Rickey
19-09-2016, 12:20 AM
Or, without exposing your full face,
topless, in silhouette.


[sammyboyimage]
Where is the pix my dear gal ?? :confused:...like it v. much leh ! ;)