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die.cockstand
22-09-2015, 05:22 PM
Just sharing my personal experiences and opinion, as the saying here goes, one man's meat is another man's poison.

FL
Damage: $ ~ $$ ($100~$300 Per meet)
The wide variety and different cost caters to everyone budget, be it PRC, Viet, Thai, Korean, European, Local.. Etc.
Everyone can choose based on their budget

Upside: Zero maintenance or emotional attachment
Downside: feels like a business transaction, going through motion as they are tired.


FWB
Damage: $$-$$$ ($200~$500 Per meet)
if staying overnight in decent hotel plus meals and transport.

Contrary to most men beliefs, FWB also cost more than you imagine, you've to wine and dine them in the beginning to work your way into their pants, ferry them to/fro, host them in more decent hotels. So the damage may work out to be higher than your typical PRC/Thai sexcapade.

Upside: Mutual pleasure and knowing each other preferences under the sheet over time, mind blowing orgasms ensured.

Downside: Emotional maintenance, need to chat with them and text them, they must like you or in some cases love you enough to maintain this FWB relationship.
No women in this world would go to bed with someone she don't like, regardless how horny she is.

At my peak, I was maintaining 5 FWB and it took up took much of my time and $$$, in the end I've to end 3 of the FWB relationship to keep myself sane!


Sugar Babe
Damage: $$$ - $$$$$ (Monthly allowance + dining + transport + Accomodation in hotel / apartments) $3,000 ~ $10,000 per month

This is the rich man game, if you cannot afford to splurge $3,000 ~ $5,000 a month on this indulgence, don't even attempt to be a Sugar Daddy!
That's enough money to drive a nice continental car and pay for your condo instalment mind you.

Typical monthly allowance approx $3,000 ~ $5,000 depending on age and quality of your chosen sugar babe.

You also have to host them in hotel, example twice a week, which will cost you between $500 ~ $1,500 per month, depending if you're staying overnight or a transit booking.

Also wine and dine them before or after the deed, will cost you another $500 - $800 a month (both you and your SB)

Transport is optional depending on both schedule and location.

Upside:
you get to bed girls of your fantasy, no point maintaining a plain Jane for this sort of investment.

I've had the fortune encountering a nubile 19 yrs old Young girl with porcelain fair skin, pinkiest nipple and most adorable pussy I've come across.

To gorgeous air stewardess that exude an aura of sexiness that make men drool

Most memorable though, is an encounter with a 19 yrs old Minah with insatiable appetite. She almost drained me dry!

Downside: An expensive addiction to have, bedding girls of your fantasy.
A monthly outlay of $3000 ~ $5000 equates to $40,000 ~ $60,000 per annum.
Only those high income earner or business owners can maintain this sort of lifestyle.
I was once quoted $10,000 per month + Condo + Car!
Needless to say, my common sense prevail and I've to give it a miss.

Well the above are my personal experiences after chionging for 10 years in the scene, lookong forward to learn more from fellow members on their experiences.

What would you choose given the above 3 options to satisfy your thirst?

iwc282
22-09-2015, 07:31 PM
Well said :)

super_duper108
23-09-2015, 12:46 AM
FWB will be most ideal ..

TheIdesOfMarch
23-09-2015, 03:13 AM
FWB is ideal situation, then between FL and sugarbaby let's not kid ourselves, sugarbabies are just glorified FLs that you pay to supposedly have them "exclusive" to you. Whether that actually happens... well if they can hook you, what's to say they can't hook someone else on the side as well?

Sugarbaby money is stupid money. If the premise of getting intimacy is to provide her allowance per month and shower her with gifts how is it not a business transaction like what you do with a FL? Some more with FL it is clean-cut, money changes hands, fuck and go. Chemistry can be built up with repeated visits should you click well with her, and it is definitely way more honest a dealing than the fake ego-boosting that sugarbabies sell themselves to their daddies.

jason_
23-09-2015, 11:01 AM
To me, the difference between a FL and SB is quite ambiguous. Same same but different, you know? I will say that if you are looking for exclusivity, then you should be prepared to pay for it. $15-20k should not be surprising. Think of it as "retainer".

If a SD only wants 1-2 meet ups a week (which seems to be the norm), they usually are only willing to fork out 3-5k max. Full time sugars who don't have a supplementary income will obviously be dating others, thus getting a reasonable sum per month (hair, nails, clothes, etc to keep us looking good don't come free).

The difference of course is that we are paid to date, not fuck. SDs usually emphasize on having chemistry and companionship. As a girl I feel more comfortable with this arrangement as well. I do enjoy dating older men, but I am getting paid to compensate for the fact that this will never amount to anything more. Feelings may develop, and there is nothing wrong with that as long as both parties understand the ephemeral nature of the relationship.

Other SBs may think differently. Everyone has their own MO :)

at $3000, you can bonk a $100 FL everyday of the month, why pay to a sugarbaby who call you lowballer and will askhave other sugardaddies besides yourself? can read this old thread, very disgusting yet supported by ex-FL ppgirl.

relentless
23-09-2015, 11:20 AM
FWB is ideal situation, then between FL and sugarbaby let's not kid ourselves, sugarbabies are just glorified FLs that you pay to supposedly have them "exclusive" to you. Whether that actually happens... well if they can hook you, what's to say they can't hook someone else on the side as well?

Sugarbaby money is stupid money. If the premise of getting intimacy is to provide her allowance per month and shower her with gifts how is it not a business transaction like what you do with a FL? Some more with FL it is clean-cut, money changes hands, fuck and go. Chemistry can be built up with repeated visits should you click well with her, and it is definitely way more honest a dealing than the fake ego-boosting that sugarbabies sell themselves to their daddies.

I don't think there is an ideal situation. Even a gf/lover is not ideal, let alone fwb. Each of these we went through different phases of our lives and they fill different needs.

For FWB, there isn't really a commitment to meet. You meet when it suits both. Sometimes you want her and yet you can't. Yes there is this thrill of less structured meeting but there is this disappointment of unfilled desire. Mostly you need to have spare FWB.

FL, we all know. Good and bad. The good ones are your super regular that we have great chemistry with. Sex is almost always better but unless you do overnights, you will be left wanting more. The bad ones are those CMI that you wish you never met. If you meet too many, bound to meet some bad attitude ones. Too many FLs w ill make us worn out as well.

Now, SB. Well they cost more, surely but there is a certainty and commitment. If you meet more regularly it is almost like gf/lover less the emotional attachment. Definitely they can still sleep around behind your back but we all have our ways around it. The perks? Holidays, spa, dinners, movies or whatever both fancy... Don't insult them by saying they are glorified FL. For some yes but for others they may not been escorts or FL before (actually I have respect for FL too, they earn their keep ). So unless proven otherwise, SB are as good as it comes - invariably prettier, younger, better figure.. or whatever quality you looking for. The bad ones are those with multiple SDs or those that sleep around.. but you can weed them out .. the good ones? They provide you with pleasure and companionship and certainty not possible with FLs or FWBs. The only thing is good one is hard to find.

I wouldn't say one is better than the other. They come at different phases of our lives. We just need to decide what we can afford and what is satisfying for us. I have long passed the FL and FWB (no more) stage. I just move from one sb to another. In the break between sb I may just look for my super regular FL. The good thing about these super regular (in the past) is that we can don't meet for months and yet they will still meet you.

harddisk
23-09-2015, 03:24 PM
Agree with the FWB up and downside :D

savacheone
23-09-2015, 05:03 PM
Hi all,

I'm not as experienced as TS on this topic, but I'd perhaps share my two cents worth.

1) FLs

I tried a few times, but agree that the feel is too commercialised. Also, the language barrier is a problem unless you go for PRCs. The problem is that PRC girls don't shave below, which is not as arousing for me. The monetary compensation is normally quite affordable and the convenience of finding them online and at accessible locations is an upside.

2) FWBs

FWBs are by far my favourite form of sexual interaction. To date, I've had maybe about 20 FWBs (including ONS), and all of them were exciting and sensual experiences. The anomaly is this: only one of them was a club pick up. Clubs are actually, contrary to popular belief, not the best place to hunt for FWBs. Correct me if I'm wrong or maybe my club game is just horrible. Would love to seek wisdom from bros who can get girls at clubs to be FWBs.

FWBs come in all shapes and sizes. I started off with some ladies who are somewhat plump, but then I've advanced to prettier ladies now. Note that FWBs are not fantasy girl quality, unless you are Brad Pitt. I'm currently juggling 4 FWBS: a lawyer, a bank officer, a financial planner and a MILF. Most of them are quite GND type, which means that the fun is beyond the bedroom. The chatting is essential to build chemistry which then culminates in the bedroom.

As for spending, I humbly beg to differ. I've never had to buy a girl a drink in clubs (the one FWB there even bought me a drink). Expenses doesn't mean we get the girl. These girls are looking for companionship, not a sugar daddy. It's only gentlemanly to give a dinner treat now and then ($20 max?). But once you get familiar with them, car and hotel sex can happen immediately as the sole purpose of a date.

Emotional connection is tricky in the sense that yes, you need to msg them regularly. But to prevent burn out, I meet at most 2 to 3 FWBs in a week. Mostly its just 1 to 2. Don't forget we need time to exercise and read to make sure we have both the brains and brawns to attract quality women. So never neglect upgrading oneself. Normally, these ladies are pretty ok with regular msging, but it depends between individuals.

Final point is that FWBs are temporal. Don't let either yourself or the FWB cross emotional boundaries into BGR or even marriage talks. One day, parties will lose interest and move on. That's normal, since you need other new girls to revitalise as well.

Would love to hear from bros (PM me and we can discuss) with FWBs on their experiences to increase skill level in getting more FWBs. Variety is the spice of life, and it doesn't hurt to have more.

3) Sugarbabes

SBs are a whole different animal which I've never tried. While I can afford $3K to $5K a month, I don't see why I should. The money is better spent elsewhere, so I can't comment on this point.

Cheers and happy hunting bros!

SnowLeopards
23-09-2015, 06:48 PM
Monetary aspects aside.

They are all screwable whores. :D

Pierre.