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SunZhi
08-03-2015, 11:59 AM
CNY is getting very strong. There is little incentive for good quality girls to come here instead of Japan or even Macau. Can the hse can bring in premium quality girl - look, body and service - for a higher price? Any market for premium quality in Geylang? Latest govt data say local hse hold income increase >$8500. Sure some bro can affort higher price for quality. What do you think?

Nato17
08-03-2015, 06:36 PM
The market is shrinking and NOT increasing. Previously there were more PRC gals here and there were more customers. Now, there are less PRC and less customers and still many of the gals don't have business lor. How can that justify for premium cat lor?

Allanooi
08-03-2015, 07:11 PM
The market is shrinking and NOT increasing. Previously there were more PRC gals here and there were more customers. Now, there are less PRC and less customers and still many of the gals don't have business lor. How can that justify for premium cat lor?

He loaded meh want okts to increase the pricing

Nato17
08-03-2015, 07:37 PM
He loaded meh want okts to increase the pricing

Hahahaha. Guess you picked it up also huh? :eek:

Allanooi
08-03-2015, 07:57 PM
Hahahaha. Guess you picked it up also huh? :eek:

Been a mr nice man too long itching ....

SunZhi
08-03-2015, 10:10 PM
The market is shrinking and NOT increasing. Previously there were more PRC gals here and there were more customers. Now, there are less PRC and less customers and still many of the gals don't have business lor. How can that justify for premium cat lor?

CNY value up verse SGD.
Good quality PRC girls go to place they can earn more.
SG man don't want to pay for 2nd grade PRC girl.
The result is less PRC girl, thus less SG man.

The good news is this ancient trade will never diminish.
Good quality PRC will attract SG man.
Premium quality will attract rich SG man.

Where SG man goes now? The more expensive Social escort, easily more than SGD500 excluding hotel and CD.

SGD250 premium PRC girl compare to SGD500 normal quality, which one SG man take?

comm
09-03-2015, 12:33 AM
the reason why GL biz keep going down is due to internet FL which the gov can easily clamp down if they reduce the red tape needed for the relevant agencies to take action

in fact all the necessary information is already listed out for the police ,

location of crime
picture of criminal
operating hours

even a telephone number is provided for the police to directly call and ask..."hello are u a (illegal) prostitute, what (illegal) services do u provide "

unfit
09-03-2015, 12:41 AM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/11029565_960199174005189_8658823953287126302_n.jpg ?oh=87d5097809bcfe70820e7d19029d7741&oe=557F84F9&__gda__=1434172232_f7c7cdbb5244c959af8a6158f73957a 4

If GL got like this then people will not go FL:D

But of course Cat 300:p

Nato17
09-03-2015, 01:15 AM
CNY value up verse SGD.
Good quality PRC girls go to place they can earn more.
SG man don't want to pay for 2nd grade PRC girl.
The result is less PRC girl, thus less SG man.

The good news is this ancient trade will never diminish.
Good quality PRC will attract SG man.
Premium quality will attract rich SG man.

Where SG man goes now? The more expensive Social escort, easily more than SGD500 excluding hotel and CD.

SGD250 premium PRC girl compare to SGD500 normal quality, which one SG man take?

You have NOT taken into the equation that OKTs in SG take 50% cut or more. Thus you pay $250 yes, but girl only gets $125 per shot still, that is all. How much do you think it works out before you can get a wannabe actress to land on our shores pray tell? According to your logic then to get them to come here needs $250 per shot, thus essentially you are asking Geylang to create a cat 500.

I would consider myself a VHNWI and I would not pay $500 per shot. You may be ULTRA HNWI but then how many ULTRA HNWI are there in SG.

Therefore the solution is simple bro, if you are super ULTRA HNWI then go to PRC and bao them before they reach here lor.

Nato17
09-03-2015, 01:29 AM
Where SG man goes now? The more expensive Social escort, easily more than SGD500 excluding hotel and CD.

SGD250 premium PRC girl compare to SGD500 normal quality, which one SG man take?

Look, I think you are missing the point. A WL only takes back about 72-80 for a cat 150. Thus a cat 250 should make about 120-150 at best, the difference being $40 more. Not much. If you want a $500 quality girl in GL, you should thus be paying $500 and NOT $250. Your maths thus needs to be brushed up don't you agree bro? Btw, this is from a brother to you. Don't show off your wealth by trying to create a new class of cats because there so many more ULTRA HNWI here more than you and I have combined. So don't just utter for the sake of uttering.

Nato17
09-03-2015, 01:38 AM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/11029565_960199174005189_8658823953287126302_n.jpg ?oh=87d5097809bcfe70820e7d19029d7741&oe=557F84F9&__gda__=1434172232_f7c7cdbb5244c959af8a6158f73957a 4

If GL got like this then people will not go FL:D

But of course Cat 300:p

That class would be CAT 500 bro not CAT 300. How may $500 bullets do u have bro?

city slicker
09-03-2015, 01:47 AM
The market is shrinking and NOT increasing. Previously there were more PRC gals here and there were more customers. ...

For the 150 cat, the market contraction may be attributed to both stronger RMB vs S$ (affecting supply) and online competition (reduces demand). Indeed with inflation and weaker currency conversion, the $150 price tag has become less attractive and sustainable for top $150 APs. Maybe that is why we are seeing higher turnover and earlier departures. Basically, you get what you pay for. If the $150 price continues ($80 to WL), one has to be prepared to compromise on quality and turnover. .. Just my $0.02.

Nato17
09-03-2015, 02:04 AM
For the 150 cat, the market contraction may be attributed to both stronger RMB vs S$ (affecting supply) and online competition (reduces demand). Indeed with inflation and weaker currency conversion, the $150 price tag has become less attractive and sustainable for top $150 APs. Maybe that is why we are seeing higher turnover and earlier departures. Basically, you get what you pay for. If the $150 price continues ($80 to WL), one has to be prepared to compromise on quality and turnover. .. Just my $0.02.

All things being equal, $150 has always been the de facto price. However, the difference is inflation has come into play this past few years and thus, $150 now seems little. Having said that if $150 is seen by brothers here as little then the following would be true, there would be more punters in GL. However, the opposite is true. There are LESS punters in GL then previous years.

Now having said that, it basically points to a weaker economy then previously in my own little world and not so much if WLs get paid $80 or not. Back to the point, creating a CAT 250, a CAT 300 or even a CAT 500, the demand is NOT there. So basically you are back to square 1 because what the girls will be taking home is still about the same pay but serving less clients that is all.

Nato17
09-03-2015, 02:07 AM
For the 150 cat, the market contraction may be attributed to both stronger RMB vs S$ (affecting supply) and online competition (reduces demand). Indeed with inflation and weaker currency conversion, the $150 price tag has become less attractive and sustainable for top $150 APs. Maybe that is why we are seeing higher turnover and earlier departures. Basically, you get what you pay for. If the $150 price continues ($80 to WL), one has to be prepared to compromise on quality and turnover. .. Just my $0.02.

FLs I think do take a bit of business away from WLs. However, the FL market I would say is probably about the same size as the WLs CAT 150. The issue is even the FLs are feeling the heat.

Online FLs are now a HIT and MISS thing and I rather go to GL and hook up with a WL then with an FL lor. The online pimps are raising prices which are now almost comparable to CAT 150 for half the effort put in which to me is damn crap lor.

joker88
09-03-2015, 10:20 AM
For the 150 cat, the market contraction may be attributed to both stronger RMB vs S$ (affecting supply) and online competition (reduces demand). .............. If the $150 price continues ($80 to WL), one has to be prepared to compromise on quality and turnover. .. Just my $0.02.

All things being equal, $150 has always been the de facto price. However, the difference is ..................Now having said that, it basically points to a weaker economy then previously in my own little world and not so much if WLs get paid $80 or not. Back to the point, creating a CAT 250, a CAT 300 or even a CAT 500, the demand is NOT there. So basically you are back to square 1 because what the girls will be taking home is still about the same pay but serving less clients that is all.

It is true. With the RMB getting stronger and MAS easing monetary policy this year,
it will be less and less attractive for the APs to come here.

With the current structure, the WLs are getting only abt 50% of the price tag.
The OKTs is getting a whopping 50% without any risk compared to the online OKTs.
Like what Nato mentioned, creating a CAT 300 or even 500 does not benefit the WL much becos
the OKT will benefit much more from the 50% cut.

The present structure for the PRC WL per hour is Room=$30, OKT=$40, WL=$80.

Previously, for the malaysian WL per hour is Room=$30, OKT=$20, WL=$100.

Currently, the PRC WLs also pay rental of $300 per month to the OKT and pay their own food and other expenses.

I would think OKT=$20 per hour would be more resonable considering the fact that the WL does most if not all the work servicing the client. :(

Assuming the OKT does not supply the room, he makes a whopping $400 a day from one WL if she serves 10 clients outside his shop. :(
He makes $700 if he supplies the room. No risk and easy job.

FLs I think do take a bit of business away from WLs. However, the FL market I would say is probably about the same size as the WLs CAT 150. The issue is even the FLs are feeling the heat.

Online FLs are now a HIT and MISS thing and I rather go to GL and hook up with a WL then with an FL lor. The online pimps are raising prices which are now almost comparable to CAT 150 for half the effort put in which to me is damn crap lor.

The online OKTs are raising prices and the FL service is also dropping.
If this goes on, the pool of online customers will keep on shrinking.

Even UHNWI like Nato will not patronise them lah. Right hor, Nato? :)

unfit
09-03-2015, 12:41 PM
That class would be CAT 500 bro not CAT 300. How may $500 bullets do u have bro?

Cat 300 I see her 4 times :D

Cat 500 will be 3 times :p

Per month ;)

Cat 300 halftime 500 an hour :)

Nato17
09-03-2015, 02:21 PM
It is true. With the RMB getting stronger and MAS easing monetary policy this year,
it will be less and less attractive for the APs to come here.

With the current structure, the WLs are getting only abt 50% of the price tag.
The OKTs is getting a whopping 50% without any risk compared to the online OKTs.
Like what Nato mentioned, creating a CAT 300 or even 500 does not benefit the WL much becos
the OKT will benefit much more from the 50% cut.

The present structure for the PRC WL per hour is Room=$30, OKT=$40, WL=$80.

Previously, for the malaysian WL per hour is Room=$30, OKT=$20, WL=$100.

Currently, the PRC WLs also pay rental of $300 per month to the OKT and pay their own food and other expenses.

I would think OKT=$20 per hour would be more resonable considering the fact that the WL does most if not all the work servicing the client. :(

Assuming the OKT does not supply the room, he makes a whopping $400 a day from one WL if she serves 10 clients outside his shop. :(
He makes $700 if he supplies the room. No risk and easy job.



The online OKTs are raising prices and the FL service is also dropping.
If this goes on, the pool of online customers will keep on shrinking.

Even UHNWI like Nato will not patronise them lah. Right hor, Nato? :)

I UHNWI because of L69H69 la. What to do bro?

Nato17
09-03-2015, 02:30 PM
The online OKTs are raising prices and the FL service is also dropping.
If this goes on, the pool of online customers will keep on shrinking.

Even UHNWI like Nato will not patronise them lah. Right hor, Nato? :)

The market is shrinking not because men are horny but because prices keep escalating lor. I remember telling some bros a lot earlier we will basically see less PRC here because of the killing of the golden geese lor. :)

city slicker
09-03-2015, 06:18 PM
The present structure for the PRC WL per hour is Room=$30, OKT=$40, WL=$80. Previously, for the malaysian WL per hour is Room=$30, OKT=$20, WL=$100.
I would think OKT=$20 per hour would be more reasonable considering the fact that the WL does most if not all the work servicing the client. :(
.... No risk and easy job.


Indeed a lucrative cash biz. Also, when you 双飞, GL houses are effectively charging you for two rooms, 2x$30 per hour, for the use of one.

In some ways. the $150 "fixed" price structure suits more the average WLs (who comprise the majority of the GL popn) than the hot APs. An AP has to contend with 10 to 12 jobs a day, day in day out, yet earning the same $80 per job as their lack-lustre sisters. Even in the FL world, there's price differentiation for different perceived qualities. No wonder many throw in the towel (or pant...) after few months.

Nato17
09-03-2015, 06:35 PM
Indeed a lucrative cash biz. Also, when you 双飞, GL houses are effectively charging you for two rooms, 2x$30 per hour, for the use of one.

In some ways. the $150 "fixed" price structure suits more the average WLs (who comprise the majority of the GL popn) than the hot APs. An AP has to contend with 10 to 12 jobs a day, day in day out, yet earning the same $80 per job as their lack-lustre sisters. Even in the FL world, there's price differentiation for different perceived qualities. No wonder many throw in the towel (or pant...) after few months.

It is not so much they throw in the towel but because idiots spoil the market in my opinion. Look at this way, I know of patrons who now pay $100 for doing nothing than massage and a handjob. To those of you who do that, you are spoiling the market lor. And basically more and more OKTS are joining that market and that means our lobangs are getting harder to come by lor.

To me, these OKTs are in for the short haul and don't care if they hurt everyone else. But than again, it is human nature lor.

joker88
09-03-2015, 10:51 PM
Indeed a lucrative cash biz. Also, when you 双飞, GL houses are effectively charging you for two rooms, 2x$30 per hour, for the use of one.
...........................

Precisely, bro.

Strictly speaking, two WLs in one room for one hour should be = $30+$40+(2x$80).

The room rate and OKT's cut should be the same for the same one hour except for one more WL.

But of course we know that this will not happen becos the OKT will rather send the WL to serve another client for that hour rather than two WLs serving the same client becos he will make less.

So, the moral of the story is, the OKT makes the easy money with the least effort and no risk lor. :rolleyes:

Kanina, like this hor, OKT Nato making easy $$$ at L69H69 leh. :(

Must go visit him more often and ask for discount liao. :p

No wonder he is UHNWI now. :(

unfit
10-03-2015, 12:01 AM
Tarma will use more towel,tissue,soap and water...abit more aircon too:D

Then house 6969 can charge more:p

Nato17
10-03-2015, 12:13 AM
Precisely, bro.

Strictly speaking, two WLs in one room for one hour should be = $30+$40+(2x$80).

The room rate and OKT's cut should be the same for the same one hour except for one more WL.

But of course we know that this will not happen becos the OKT will rather send the WL to serve another client for that hour rather than two WLs serving the same client becos he will make less.

So, the moral of the story is, the OKT makes the easy money with the least effort and no risk lor. :rolleyes:

Kanina, like this hor, OKT Nato making easy $$$ at L69H69 leh. :(

Must go visit him more often and ask for discount liao. :p

No wonder he is UHNWI now. :(

That is why i thank AV for making me a UHNWI because of them, I can drive my red Ferrari @Bugis and get into accident and still no one complain against FT lor.

Wait a min. I not FT lei. I poor sinkie lor. Got to wash toilet for all the brothers instead. Kekekeke.

Nato17
10-03-2015, 12:14 AM
Tarma will use more towel,tissue,soap and water...abit more aircon too:D

Then house 6969 can charge more:p

Aiyah, for you bro unfit, 6969 will always serve u XO and cigars lor. I smuggle some cubans for u ok? :rolleyes:

unfit
10-03-2015, 12:31 AM
Aiyah, for you bro unfit, 6969 will always serve u XO and cigars lor. I smuggle some cubans for u ok? :rolleyes:

Thanks Boss Nato :p

So how many sessions to get one Cohiba:D

city slicker
10-03-2015, 01:12 AM
So the moral of the story is, the OKT makes the easy money with the least effort and no risk lor. :rolleyes:
Kanina, like this hor, OKT Nato making easy $$$ at L69H69 leh.
Must go visit him more often and ask for discount liao. :p
No wonder he is UHNWI now. :(

We are all anxiously awaiting for bro Nato to get elected as the chairman of the GL OKT Association at the next AGM so that he can implement long overdue reforms to re-vitalize the biz. Nato, its time to step forward to perform service to your countrymen. :D

Nato17
10-03-2015, 01:21 AM
We are all anxiously awaiting for bro Nato to get elected as the chairman of the GL OKT Association at the next AGM so that he can implement long overdue reforms to re-vitalize the biz. Nato, its time to step forward to perform service to your countrymen. :D

Errr. Before I can be elected Chairman, I have three leg all the OKTs for their support lei. So do me a favor and next time come to 6969 and then when I make enuff money I buy the rest of the OKTs out ok and implement what you want. :cool:

My problem is I have to win over the 60.1% before I can become Chairman lei. Making 1 peanut a year is easy. Making a few peanuts a year is very hard, you know that right?

Nato17
10-03-2015, 02:34 AM
We are all anxiously awaiting for bro Nato to get elected as the chairman of the GL OKT Association at the next AGM so that he can implement long overdue reforms to re-vitalize the biz. Nato, its time to step forward to perform service to your countrymen. :D

FCUK. Now, I am accepting bets who will be the first WL in GL to get a 18k gold Apple Watch. Errr...place your bets. :)

Nato17
10-03-2015, 02:42 AM
Thanks Boss Nato :p

So how many sessions to get one Cohiba:D

As long as my suppliers from Bestcigarprices.com keeps providing me their price I can offer 1 cohiba for every one session especially if TS gets his way of creating a new cat of $250, 300 and 500.

You smoke Black Churchill or Black Label?

unfit
10-03-2015, 11:00 AM
As long as my suppliers from Bestcigarprices.com keeps providing me their price I can offer 1 cohiba for every one session especially if TS gets his way of creating a new cat of $250, 300 and 500.

You smoke Black Churchill or Black Label?

Siglo 4 will do:p

Not too long:D

I am small;)

joker88
10-03-2015, 12:42 PM
Aiyah, for you bro unfit, 6969 will always serve u XO and cigars lor. I smuggle some cubans for u ok?

Wah lau eh, not fair leh. :(

He got XO and cohiba.
How come I go L69H69 only got cheap cheap chinese tea and not allowed to smoke somemore. :confused:

Floppy Joe got big body mass uses more water, body foam and towels.
He like the WL to lick his whole body so they use lots of tissues also.
Need stronger aircon to cool his fat body somemore.
Must charge him double mah. How can you offer him XO and cohiba?? :mad:

As long as my suppliers from Bestcigarprices.com keeps providing me their price I can offer 1 cohiba for every one session especially if TS gets his way of creating a new cat of $250, 300 and 500.

You smoke Black Churchill or Black Label?

I like Black Churchill leh. Must book how many sessions to get one? :o

unfit
10-03-2015, 08:34 PM
Wah lau eh, not fair leh.

He got XO and cohiba.
How come I go L69H69 only got cheap cheap chinese tea and not allowed to smoke somemore.

Floppy Joe got big body mass uses more water, body foam and towels.
He like the WL to lick his whole body so they use lots of tissues also.
Need stronger aircon to cool his fat body somemore.
Must charge him double mah. How can you offer him XO and cohiba?

I bring my own shower gel,tissue and towel :D

Only use water and aircon :p

xgwei
12-03-2015, 12:55 AM
recently after a session with a cat150 girl, she received a call from her hp, another guy coming, then i ask her if shes tired or not, she say no problem coz the next guy come here chit chat only, no sex. dont even need to shower haha, she say coz the guy cannot erect liao..old man...

korean
12-03-2015, 01:36 AM
recently after a session with a cat150 girl, she received a call from her hp, another guy coming, then i ask her if shes tired or not, she say no problem coz the next guy come here chit chat only, no sex. dont even need to shower haha, she say coz the guy cannot erect liao..old man...

There r some customers can erect but just chit chat n no sex too :o

Nato17
12-03-2015, 01:55 PM
There r some customers can erect but just chit chat n no sex too :o

Do it some more and let me earn your 250 dollars for a cat 500 lor. I welcome it a lot. :rolleyes:

korean
12-03-2015, 02:03 PM
Do it some more and let me earn your 250 dollars for a cat 500 lor. I welcome it a lot. :rolleyes:

me poor man cannot afford :eek: I think take it offline better.

Wait, if don't spend to kc first how to proceed to offline :)

Nato17
12-03-2015, 02:23 PM
me poor man cannot afford :eek: I think take it offline better.

Wait, if don't spend to kc first how to proceed to offline :)

Hahahaha. You don't need KC lei. You got so many WLs after your $$$$ already.

korean
12-03-2015, 03:59 PM
Hahahaha. You don't need KC lei. You got so many WLs after your $$$$ already.

150 blue note that is :) 500 cannot afford lor