The KTV Bible - All You Need to Know When Chionging in a KTV

[Notary]

The KTV Bible - All You Need to Know When Chionging in a KTV


1.0 Introduction

I started my virgin experience in one of the Geylang KTV joints. The hostess took my hands, pushed me behind the door and placed my warm hands on her soft boobs. My journey began from that day onward.

I particularly love the KTV scene for the following reasons:


The building of friendship and brotherhood with your fellow colleages, friends or business partners
The singing of songs. Definitely a release of stress in the very uptight Singapore environment
The stream of beautiful girls where you get the hope of entering into their forbidden cave
The feeling of being worshipped by the managers, service crew and of course the legendary mummy
The touch of alcohol that takes you out of this world

With all the above said, I have burned more than S$30,000 on KTV sessions in the last 6 years. No regrets at all :cool:

2.0 The Concept of the KTV

Most people end up in a KTV room for 2 main reasons, (A) you are entertaining someone else or (B) you are being entertained. For only a few individuals, you fall into this special category where you are there by yourself - I call this "K-Masturbation".

The most powerful person within the group would usually sit in the middle of the elongated or U-shaped sofa. The traditional bottoms-up would start first and then the choosing of the hostesses would come next.

Once the choosing is done, the brothers would usually ignore every damn thing in the world for the next 10 to 15 minutes. If your ears are sensitive enough, you'll usually hear introductory questions like:


Where are you from?
Which part of China/Vietnam/Cambodia are you from?
Did you just arrive Singapore?
How long have you been working?
Have you eaten your dinner?
Can you drink a lot?
Are you a good singer?
Do you have a boyfriend?


Once the brothers are done familiarising with their chosen ones, they will usually either begin with KTV games or the more "talented" ones will begin with serenading the room with their voices.

Halfway during the night when the alcohol has sufficiently gotten to everybody's brains, bonding then begins. You'll usually hear phrases like:


You are my brother! I will always be by your side
We will make money together!
No one can bring us down!
We are brothers till the end!

I've personally heard phrases like:


I don't have education, don't have anything much, all I have is money! Anything you need come and see me!
You see all these people around me? They are all my brothers; they will help me in my time of need!
Buy this counter ******** in the stock market, tomorrow sure go up!
Come, lets go MBS! (Marina Bay Sands Casino)


Of course, not forgetting the mummy coming into the room once in awhile and staying for a short time to entertain her beloved customers - her time spent in your room very much depends on your spending power.

When the night is about to end, wallets come out from their hiding places and then whatever happens next varies. Some bros will go home alone, some bros will have supper and some bros will have dessert in some hotel room - if you know what I mean ;)

3.0 Financial Matters

Early Session 早场 (5:30 PM to 9:00 PM) – ES
Late Session 晚场 (9:10 PM to 3:00 AM) – LS
Late Late Session 晚晚场 (3:00 AM to 6:00 AM) – LLS (Only a few KTVs practice this)

3.1 KTV Room Charge in Singapore (No minimum spending required)


Tower of Beer: S$132 +/- [ES] S$240 +/- [LS, LLS]
Hard Liquor: S$248 +/- [ES] S$490 +/- [LS,LLS]
Wine: S$160 +/- [ES] S$310 +/- [LS, LLS]

3.2 Mummy’s Tips
Below is a list of reasonable tipping for you to avoid the Mummy’s shitlist.


Standard Tipping at a low to mid tier KTV: S$50 per session
Standard Tipping at a high tier KTV: S$100 per session
When group is way bigger than usual or when there is a special occasion: S$100 to S$150 per session depending on which KTV you go to


The mummy also earn commission from you buying hard liquor, they earn about S$60 to S$80 per bottle you open. The top mummy in Singapore earns about S$30,000 every month. Some of you who are very well versed in this arena would know exactly who I am referring to.

3.3 Girls' Tips

No Mummy KTV (Example: China Dolls, Club Jade and etc.)
Butterfuly: S$20 to S$30 per girl
Booking: S$150 for ES and S$250 to S$300 for LS and LLS (prices are dependent on Mummy and quality of girl)


KTV with Mummy Service (Example: Tian An Men, Golden Million, Club Royce and etc)
Butterfly: S$50 per girl
Booking: S$150 for ES and S$250 to S$500 for LS, LLS (prices are dependent on Mummy and quality of girl)


Bringing the Girl out for Sex
Short Time: S$200 to S$800 (Price is dependent on the girl)
Long Time (Overnight): S$400 to S$1,500 (Price is dependent on the girl)

There are of course girls who think that their pussies are made of diamond and some of them could charge up to S$2,000, S$3,000 or even S$10,000. My above pricing is the standard market rate. I used to think that KTV girls are "clean" they don't practice prostitution, after years of being in this industry, I realised that I was very wrong - everyone has got a price. Trust me.

A typical KTV hostess earns about S$6,000 to S$12,000 a month.

3.4 Service Crew Tips

For me, I generally tip each waiter or waitress S$10 for each session. I have known some of them for years, those I tip a bit more. Usually for service crew you can just play by ear, tipping is not a must.

My rule is, if you have served me well, you get rewarded. I don't usually give those who out of nowhere comes in with hot towels at the end of the session and excepting a tip.

3.5 Consumable Items (Food and Cigarettes)

KTVs will always mark up their food and cigarettes sometimes as much as 100% above the normal market price. Always either eat before you enter into paradise or pack food from outside. If you have a good relationship with the people there, they might even provide you with plates and cutleries.

3.6 Toilet Uncle (Toilet Attendent)

Some KTVs have attendants taking care of their toilets, they serve you with a hot towel after you are done with your business. A reasonable rage of titbits are displayed near the sink area for your purchasing pleasure, buying a snack is usually my way of tipping them. They usually also mark up the prices of whatever you see by 100%. Tipping them is not necessary.

My average expenditure per night in my favourite KTV is about S$350 to S$450.

4.0 Girls

The girls will be brought in by the mummy, please take your time and choose. If you think that you might want a particular girl, don't be shy, ask the mummy to reserve first - you can request for her later if you still cannot find another girl in the crowd.

We all have to keep one very important point in mind - these girls are out here to earn money. I am not saying that you should avoid them, what I am saying is that you should not be hypnotised by their sweet tongues and wet pussies. You really don't want a big hole in your pocket and a wrecked up life.

Enjoy what they have to tell you in the room and whatever happens in the room stays in the room. She can say that you are the most handsome boy on planet Earth or you could join The Voice of China and emerge as Number #1 but that doesn't mean that you need to tip her more or feed her dying mother in China.

Yes, there are good girls, but they are very rare. I have personally sat with more than 120 girls in my entire KTV career and believe me, I have seen the very ugly side of some :mad:

If you are not restricted by family commitments, feel free to keep in contact with them. Most of them use WeChat (http://www.wechat.com/en/), by the way, WeChat (http://www.wechat.com/en/) is a brilliant instant messaging system. Keeping in contact with them allows you the avenue to take someone out for drinks when you are bored, know more about another country's culture and open the possibility to get lucky down the road :D

4.1 Mamasan (Mummy) or Papasan (Papa)

The Mamasan and Papasan main role is to keep you happy. There are several ways they could do this, (A) brining you the right girl, (B) if you are unhappy with your chosen girl, they will have to do everything in their power to change one for you until you are happy, (C) entertain you, keep you company when you are alone and (D) generally, make you happy.

A good mummy or daddy is always on their customers' side - sometimes, a hostess or waiter could lose their mind and do really stupid things to piss us off, the mummy must step in and always stand on her clients' side.

If you are on good terms with the mummy, they are more than happy to provide you with some special perks like a free bottle of hard liquor or even simple things like giving you the phone number of a particular girl that you didn't manage to get the night before.

5.0 Golden Advice


Don't fall in love with a KTV girl or Mummy, it's complicated
On average, a person lies about 13 times a week. In a KTV session, a person could lie 13 times
What was said will not be so the next day due to the influence of alcohol
Play within your financial means
Play, but don't forget your family
Do not over tip, don't spoil the market
You don't have to bottoms up when you are not comfortable to do so
Your health is more important than your face
Always get a valet if you drive
Life is short, chiong ah!



With pleasure,
Notary

[ol'coyote]

interesting write-up...
brings back memories of days when me chiong ktvs...

[RamboCat]

Nice write up Notary !
Do you have a similar bible for Hang Flower Joints, Thai discos and Vietnamese/Philippine Pubs?

[pirate1]

Thanks buddy. Good one. :)

[Mankok]

Good "Bible "? I myself didnot cheong in the real KTV's very often.
Reasons for this:

I don't drink (alcohol, because of health issues )
I don't smoke
I don't like to sing
I prefer to cheong alone

To put it straight: I am only interested in girls, not in the other things a KTV offers.

[anonymouskimch]

Awesome! Love to read more of these sort of "Bible" about the different scenes. Thanks

[chatlovers]

Good "Bible "? I myself didnot cheong in the real KTV's very often.
Reasons for this:

I don't drink (alcohol, because of health issues )
I don't smoke
I don't like to sing
I prefer to cheong alone

To put it straight: I am only interested in girls, not in the other things a KTV offers.

We have some similarities bro.

[skyleon]

Thanks TS for the information. :)

[gunner77]

interestinng read.

thanks for sharing bro :D

[damong777]

A good write up:D

[Jenova]

Thanks for sharing.

[4getful]

Think TS can publish a series of book n named it 'ktv 101' :D
Part 1 - chionging ktv
Part 2 - the do and the don't
Part 3 - how it helps to reduce sexual crime rate
Part 4 - the secret to a happy family.
etc etc...

Finally open a school teaches n issuing from certificate to degree in chionging. :D

[cheeky-cheeky]

Nice write up Notary !
Do you have a similar bible for Hang Flower Joints, Thai discos and Vietnamese/Philippine Pubs?

Yea... IT will be great...

[chris91]

Great write-up bro. Just upped you. :)

[seek4fuck]

Nice sharing, TS Bro. ;)

[chowahbeng]

Thanks for the great write-up! Have upped you.

[supercm]

nice read :)

[Notary]

Hi brothers,


Thanks for reading. Was just sharing my years of experience in the KTV. Didn't want our younger friends to make the same mistakes that I made.

Was wondering, if I were to write a guide on flower joints, which section should I be posting it in? I'm new here in SBF :o

Nevertheless, looking forward to all of your guidance.

By the way, I wanted to add this additional portion in my post but I've exceeded the 10,000 word limit (maybe the boss could remove this 10,000 word limit on my account :D)

Drink Driving

I am not going to preach about the whole if you drink and drive you're very irresponsible because your car becomes a weapon and people will die and then I start quoting the previous Ferrari incident and etc.

Yes, the above is important and everyone already knows about it. But what is also important is your Driving License - once you're caught, you'll be suspended from driving and you'll have to retake all the stupid tests. I know an individual who's license got suspended, he retook the driving test 6 times but cannot pass because the tester knows that he is a suspended drink driver.

The solution? Simple, engage a valet.
A few of the valets I use (I don't own any of the undermentioned valet companies - I don't get a commission for flashing their numbers here. I am doing this for our SBF bros' convenience)

(1) DH Valet | +65 9730 3450 | S$38.00
(2) Sincere Valet Services | 8228 2657 or 9233 0233 | S$33.00

If you are not comfortable with using the above, you could:

(A) Google and search for a valet that you're comfortable with
or (B) ask the Mummy to get you a valet (sometimes the Mummy will earn from here, so just be aware)

In addition, if you are sending your girl home, having a driver puts her heart at ease and you look more classy with an assigned driver taking the wheel while the both of you feel each other behind the car. :rolleyes:

Always remember, it takes 24,637 bolts to put a car together, but only 1 NUT to spread it all over the road. Drink responsibly and drive responsibily - don't drink and drive.


With pleasure,
Notary

[Notary]

Great write-up bro. Just upped you. :)

Thanks for the great write-up! Have upped you.

Hi bros,


Thanks for the appreciation. Just want to clarify, what do you all of you mean by "you have upped me"?


With pleasure,
Notary

[smallplayer]

Bro,
Very nice to see such a detailed and good writeup.
Really good advice to fellow ktv bros.

From the looks and price, seem u r more into prc ktv.

Of course the other scene out there is the vietnam ones, which I prefer more.
Price considerably lower, mostly because of ktv environment (not as atas) and also quality generally (but not always) not seen as good.
But personally been to both kinds...somethings I feel:

1. It is very important to know market rates and practices. Pamper them and spoil ur own pockets. We all want ROI ( Return on Investment ) but it differs from people to people. The sky is the limit, but do play within your means.
2. Remember to treat all stories heard as movie scripts. Their stories rival that of the best movies out there. Can agree but before any big actions, do ask seasoned bro for advice. End of the day, protect yourself.
3. Mummy vs no mummy system. Some ppl don't like mummy cos of additional tips. But they help to settle disputes and also help u keep lookout, not to mention new stocks. So your choice of which ktv to go. Non mummy places u have to hunt on ur own..and sometimes if choose wrongly..can spoil ur evenings.
4. Chionging ktv is about having fun. If you go with bro u know long time then all good. If go with new ppl, better to understand chionging styles. Some bros are more possessive, or alcohol blackhole (drink non stop), so better to clarify and not spoil the night.

Got more to share..but let's leave it here for now. .

[Notary]

Bro,
Very nice to see such a detailed and good writeup.
Really good advice to fellow ktv bros.

From the looks and price, seem u r more into prc ktv.

Of course the other scene out there is the vietnam ones, which I prefer more.
Price considerably lower, mostly because of ktv environment (not as atas) and also quality generally (but not always) not seen as good.
But personally been to both kinds...somethings I feel:

1. It is very important to know market rates and practices. Pamper them and spoil ur own pockets. We all want ROI ( Return on Investment ) but it differs from people to people. The sky is the limit, but do play within your means.
2. Remember to treat all stories heard as movie scripts. Their stories rival that of the best movies out there. Can agree but before any big actions, do ask seasoned bro for advice. End of the day, protect yourself.
3. Mummy vs no mummy system. Some ppl don't like mummy cos of additional tips. But they help to settle disputes and also help u keep lookout, not to mention new stocks. So your choice of which ktv to go. Non mummy places u have to hunt on ur own..and sometimes if choose wrongly..can spoil ur evenings.
4. Chionging ktv is about having fun. If you go with bro u know long time then all good. If go with new ppl, better to understand chionging styles. Some bros are more possessive, or alcohol blackhole (drink non stop), so better to clarify and not spoil the night.

Got more to share..but let's leave it here for now. .


Bro smallplayer,

Actually there was a period in my life where I totally stop sitting with PRC girls because I felt that they were too self-righteous. I then had an overwhelming number of Vietnam friends. My only problem with them is due to the following:


Language barrier, not all of them can understand and communicate in English very well. Google translate sucks at translating Vietnamese.

When the Viet girls talk, the talk like as if they are fighting with their friends. Its hard to tell when they are really in a quarrel.


But I must say, the sex with the Viets is delicious. They are less conservative compared to the PRCs, resulting in a lot more fun with them when doing the do. :p


With pleasure,
Notary

[damong777]

Hi bros,


Thanks for the appreciation. Just want to clarify, what do you all of you mean by "you have upped me"?


With pleasure,
Notary

Up is referring to adding of your reputation

[damong777]

Bro,
Very nice to see such a detailed and good writeup.
Really good advice to fellow ktv bros.

From the looks and price, seem u r more into prc ktv.

Of course the other scene out there is the vietnam ones, which I prefer more.
Price considerably lower, mostly because of ktv environment (not as atas) and also quality generally (but not always) not seen as good.
But personally been to both kinds...somethings I feel:

1. It is very important to know market rates and practices. Pamper them and spoil ur own pockets. We all want ROI ( Return on Investment ) but it differs from people to people. The sky is the limit, but do play within your means.
2. Remember to treat all stories heard as movie scripts. Their stories rival that of the best movies out there. Can agree but before any big actions, do ask seasoned bro for advice. End of the day, protect yourself.
3. Mummy vs no mummy system. Some ppl don't like mummy cos of additional tips. But they help to settle disputes and also help u keep lookout, not to mention new stocks. So your choice of which ktv to go. Non mummy places u have to hunt on ur own..and sometimes if choose wrongly..can spoil ur evenings.
4. Chionging ktv is about having fun. If you go with bro u know long time then all good. If go with new ppl, better to understand chionging styles. Some bros are more possessive, or alcohol blackhole (drink non stop), so better to clarify and not spoil the night.

Got more to share..but let's leave it here for now. .

Regardless of which ktv type one prefer, I believe the most impt are

1) play within your limit. Everyone want to be hero or has been a hero before. Racking up tons of credit bills is dumb and getting declared bankrupt is worse.
2) do not jeopardize family and career. Not with losing family and career over a woman.
3) never kill urself over a woman or do stupid things. There will be always more. Just move on.
4) if kena KC or KC gal, is ur own call. Dun blame others. It is your call in first place. People may want to help u but u too deep in Liao. So any outcome later u going live with u. Highest danger of going ktv if u r novice.
5) never never think u know everything. There is always something we may not know. So good to share information.
6) it is highly addictive if you cannot control. Will end up in point 1 if you fall for the false premises of escaping from reality.
7) lastly it is your life and your choice. There will be never no right or wrong. Just know why are you going there and choose wisely. If not time and money all down the drain.


Anyway this is not to offend anyone. Just a summary of key points of ktv or hfj.

[Notary]

Up is referring to adding of your reputation

May I enquire, what is the use of reputation for?


With pleasure,
Notary

[smallplayer]

Bro smallplayer,

Actually there was a period in my life where I totally stop sitting with PRC girls because I felt that they were too self-righteous. I then had an overwhelming number of Vietnam friends. My only problem with them is due to the following:


Language barrier, not all of them can understand and communicate in English very well. Google translate sucks at translating Vietnamese.

When the Viet girls talk, the talk like as if they are fighting with their friends. Its hard to tell when they are really in a quarrel.


But I must say, the sex with the Viets is delicious. They are less conservative compared to the PRCs, resulting in a lot more fun with them when doing the do. :p


With pleasure,
Notary

Learning vietnamese is not easy. And yes they do sound like market aunties.
But pick up a few key words and u will have lots of fun with them already.
Some languages r universal.
U like FNF then $$$ all know.
U like kc, then put more heart.

I'm not saying viet or prc which is better.
The method of play is different in each.

But at ktv. .we all want to have fun.
As long don't be shy..sometimes being stupid instead makes it more fun.
Sex wise...I won't rock whole boat. I had good for both and bad too.

The most impt thing to rem going to ktv.
Small head cannot rule big head.

[Notary]

4) if kena KC or KC gal, is ur own call. Dun blame others. It is your call in first place. People may want to help u but u too deep in Liao. So any outcome later u going live with u. Highest danger of going ktv if u r novice.

Tell me about it, have a special hate for those who like to blame other people for their own stupidity.

"It is all your fault, you introduced me to Resorts World Sentosa Casino last year thats why I've become a gambling addict, I've lost my whole family because of you!"

"John lor... he took me to my first KTV experience and now I every week will go at least once."


These people need brain surgery. Pui. :mad:


With pleasure,
Notary

[Notary]

The most impt thing to rem going to ktv.
Small head cannot rule big head.

Haha, I guess in all cases and not just in the KTV - "small head cannot rule big head" :cool:


With pleasure,
Notary

[smallplayer]

Anyway before we get too emo.
Comparison for viet vs prc ktv.

Prc ktv and viet joints room charges actually don't differ too much.
Sometimes ppl think too much abt room damage..then in the end kena burnt on girls.
So it's more impt see what u want.

Tips wise. .viet have between 20 to 30 but prc is 30 and above.
Of cos those don't butterfly (not booking ) u should pay more.
Reason is..u spoil market..other bros also kena.
Don't be becos of face..tip reasonable.
But this is just me.

Take away (dabao) also viet is cheaper relatively.
But as I said earlier..sky is limit..

Challenge is like u said..language.
But u can find good quality Viets around.

Then of cos u have hybrid ktv...both prc and viet.
Best of both worlds..lol. damage for rooms equal to mod class joints and above.

Hope u all bro have a happy hunting /s in 2015@@!

[newbie85]

Anyway before we get too emo.
Comparison for viet vs prc ktv.

Prc ktv and viet joints room charges actually don't differ too much.
Sometimes ppl think too much abt room damage..then in the end kena burnt on girls.
So it's more impt see what u want.

Tips wise. .viet have between 20 to 30 but prc is 30 and above.
Of cos those don't butterfly (not booking ) u should pay more.
Reason is..u spoil market..other bros also kena.
Don't be becos of face..tip reasonable.
But this is just me.

Take away (dabao) also viet is cheaper relatively.
But as I said earlier..sky is limit..

Challenge is like u said..language.
But u can find good quality Viets around.

Then of cos u have hybrid ktv...both prc and viet.
Best of both worlds..lol. damage for rooms equal to mod class joints and above.

Hope u all bro have a happy hunting /s in 2015@@!

Good info. Just wanna reiterate that you can't get away with a tip lesser than 50 at joints like K2, Miracle and Crown Music Box unless you have the look and charm of a certain Gumshoebao who can even coax the viet girl to lam tinh with him for a mere $10 tip. :D

[smallplayer]

Good info. Just wanna reiterate that you can't get away with a tip lesser than 50 at joints like K2, Miracle and Crown Music Box unless you have the look and charm of a certain Gumshoebao who can even coax the viet girl to lam tinh with him for a mere $10 tip. :D

There are and there will always be.
There are many hidden dragons and tigers just in this forum alone..not to mention outside.
But personally I like how one movie puts it..总有一天要还的。
But all to their own.

[Merc8888]

Notary, thanks for the useful guide. Just some points to add based on my experience.

a) Always call in advance to book, especially for popular joints.
b) For those without mummy system, reject if u don't want the girl, otherwise once she sits down to entertain even for a while, you are expected to tip.
c) Don't drink and drive, especially when you are sending the girl to another place. If u are stop at RB and failed the test, u got to get someone (hopefully not ur OC) to drive your vehicle and also the girl will be left alone (and can be quite traumatizing for her).

IMO, I still prefer KTV than HFJ in general because of the privacy I have with friends and the girls.. :D

[FT86]

Sad to say, if only all bros follow the mkt practice n at least be a gentleman.

I heard so much stories about guys running tips. Some even threaten to call police for refusing to pay tips. Or do go hotel don't pay tips also.

I do agree there are a lot of bitches whom treat us like carrot head.

But those girls are working for money also. Pay min n ask them go off rather than run away n not paying.

This kinda money, better don't Siam n don't pay. Very suay one.

[simpleson]

Good write up, thanks TS! Any tips for cheaper alternatives like JB or KL ktv?

[Krenjusen]

Good info.

[fullofrubbish]

This is indeed a very good thread that I think should be made into a sticky. Can someone also start a thread for massage places too ?

[chris88]

Yes, really useful stuff to know. Thanks for the info bro

[Trueno_ong]

Thanks TS for sharing, I wish my good friend have read this
write-up 2year ago so he won't have divorced and end with
nothing (KTV gal, $$$, worse 3sons) he was caught by the
golden rules No 1. Very very sad.

[zhellboyz]

Good sharing, totally agree with the mummy thing : its complicated

[damong777]

Good write up, thanks TS! Any tips for cheaper alternatives like JB or KL ktv?

Post under kl ktv thread...if you r there some kl bro will bring u out.

Different system of working

U pay gals in hours slot of 4 min. No butterfly.

If u dun want, can go beach club and thai club to fish as a lot of top quality gals there (rejected entry by Ica and the coffee money culture in kl)

[damong777]

Notary, thanks for the useful guide. Just some points to add based on my experience.

a) Always call in advance to book, especially for popular joints.
b) For those without mummy system, reject if u don't want the girl, otherwise once she sits down to entertain even for a while, you are expected to tip.
c) Don't drink and drive, especially when you are sending the girl to another place. If u are stop at RB and failed the test, u got to get someone (hopefully not ur OC) to drive your vehicle and also the girl will be left alone (and can be quite traumatizing for her).

IMO, I still prefer KTV than HFJ in general because of the privacy I have with friends and the girls.. :D

For point a very impt esp top joints with quality gals. And for sh, is also dependent on whether anyone extending hh into sh for rooms unless you r regular at the joints. They know ur number and wow magic can happen.

Point b do not like gal dun sit...dun give in. In end is ur $$

[PeroPero]

Thanks for sharing this great information! :D

[Jacky16]

Good write up!

[Notary]

Point b do not like gal dun sit...dun give in. In end is ur $$


Sometimes when entertaining bosses, they are quite hard headed with choosing girls for you.
Most of the time I end up entertaining the girls and still, I have to be the one paying her tips. :mad:

[proloner]

nice write up. only been to KTV twice. still noob

[damong777]

Sometimes when entertaining bosses, they are quite hard headed with choosing girls for you.
Most of the time I end up entertaining the girls and still, I have to be the one paying her tips. :mad:

Usually for such cases, I go for someone I know before and sometimes I pay min tips.

Got before pay only $50 from 9pm to 130am

[Notary]

Usually for such cases, I go for someone I know before and sometimes I pay min tips.

Got before pay only $50 from 9pm to 130am


Bro damong,


But it is hard to predict when the boss is going to be hard headed or not especially when you're meeting the boss for the first time.

:cool:

[damong777]

Bro damong,


But it is hard to predict when the boss is going to be hard headed or not especially when you're meeting the boss for the first time.

:cool:

My preparation is always prepare for the worst and never hope for the best

So do business cannot drink or entertain sure die one.

Think u understand what i mean

[Jivetalking]

Really useful info. Thanks for the writeup :)

[Notary]

My preparation is always prepare for the worst and never hope for the best

So do business cannot drink or entertain sure die one.

Think u understand what i mean

Bro damong,

Maybe your industry is very different from mine.
When we say entertain the boss it means make your boss happy - it is like you are the jester and he is the king.

For me, drinking is mandatory, if not, don't even step into the KTV room at all. If you insist that you do not want to drink especially after being "cheers-ed" at, you risk offending the boss.

A lot of my deals are signed in KTV rooms or if they are signed the very next day, the KTV session the night before played a huge role in securing the contract.

:)


With pleasure,
Notary

[zarty]

Good write Bro!
Very insightful.. and a walk down memory lane for me.
* THUMBSUP*

[newbie85]

All in all, a decent write-up. But this is more for punters who prefer ktv with prc girls. For Viets, it's a whole different modus operandi. And if one were to pay the st or overnight rates that you've mentioned, they will be spoiling the market.

So a better title would be "The PRC KTV Bible - All You Need to Know When Chionging in a PRC KTV". :cool:

[owl888]

Havelock Road Highend KTVs closing soon, so where are the new high end KTVs (PRC) now?

Dyna classic, Orchard K, any others?

[tiahborlang]

Nice to read and learn.

I have the question to ask:

Is it okay to drink 1 mug or 2 mug and then ieave the KTV lounge, when you are given 1 jug of beer?

[Notary]

Nice to read and learn.

I have the question to ask:

Is it okay to drink 1 mug or 2 mug and then ieave the KTV lounge, when you are given 1 jug of beer?


Hello bro,


As long as you have paid, you could walk away with a full tower of beer untouched - no one cares :)

[xgwei]

Good thread but maybe can talk about those low end ktvs without mummy too

[damong777]

Good thread but maybe can talk about those low end ktvs without mummy too

Theory is the same. Just exclude the mummy portion.

[damong777]

All in all, a decent write-up. But this is more for punters who prefer ktv with prc girls. For Viets, it's a whole different modus operandi. And if one were to pay the st or overnight rates that you've mentioned, they will be spoiling the market.

So a better title would be "The PRC KTV Bible - All You Need to Know When Chionging in a PRC KTV". :cool:

It is actually the same only small differences like small player mentioned earlier.

[newbie85]

It is actually the same only small differences like small player mentioned earlier.

Ok la. You win. :p

[Notary]

Ok la. You win. :p

Bro newbie,


Maybe you should tell us more about your experience at the Viet KTVS.



With pleasure,
Notary

[cibeisong]

Just a little addition, which some of the KTV girls shared with me themselves.

1. Nowadays, most of them are in it willingly, buying houses, cars, bags for their own uses, dun believe that they are in it for their little bros and sis for their study, for their parents/grand parents hospital bills...

2. The girls would strategise their market prices, I managed to sleep with some at normal mkt rate, and they charge or not even willing to bed with their customers in high class KTV... just to make them hooked on and squeeze more money...

3. They partime FL secretly outside, so that their big spending customer willing to spend on them believing that they are clean...

[kenzy]

Excellent write-up..

Everybody is a noob to begin with.. your education will go a long way..

[PeroPero]

Havelock Road Highend KTVs closing soon, so where are the new high end KTVs (PRC) now?

Dyna classic, Orchard K, any others?

The previous Mirage at Orchard Plaza Level 9. Not sure of the new name now. I think still HFJ but majority are PRC now. Hope it helps. :D

[cuppage]

Solid write up. The issue is my vocab in vietnamese is too damn limited. Any useful naughty words to share :D

[smallplayer]

Solid write up. The issue is my vocab in vietnamese is too damn limited. Any useful naughty words to share :D

Challenge with tieng Viet (Vietnamese) is u can still roughly learn How to say it as it is using alphabets.
However, there are up to 6 types of tones for each word and certain words are not that direct using norm English.

Knowing a few naughty Vietnamese words certainly makes the girls more open abit.. Co's will say why u know. Good opening lines to use.

Dam tac
Xao nhieu
Yeu em
Thich em
Nho em.

Just a few to share...:)

[PeroPero]

Heard from an ex-mummy that there is a new KTV at Marina Square Area.
Have not went there yet. Does anyone knows this KTV and share some info and FR of this place? :)

[Notary]

Heard from an ex-mummy that there is a new KTV at Marina Square Area.
Have not went there yet. Does anyone knows this KTV and share some info and FR of this place? :)

Are you talking about Club 8?

[PeroPero]

Are you talking about Club 8?

Heard it is called Palace 8? :confused:
Any info or FR on this place? :D

[newbie85]

Heard it is called Palace 8? :confused:
Any info or FR on this place? :D

300 to book the girl to sit with you. No butterfly. Playability zero, just chit chat and play dice. The last time i went, instead of the girl entertaining me, it was the other way round. :D

Well, gotta say that the girl's quality are top notch though. :p

[Notary]

300 to book the girl to sit with you. No butterfly. Playability zero, just chit chat and play dice. The last time i went, instead of the girl entertaining me, it was the other way round. :D

Well, gotta say that the girl's quality are top notch though. :p




Here's my 2 cents worth on Palace 8. This is a KTV that I would never station myself in unless I am needed there for entertainment purposes. Bro newbie is right, a girl sits with you for 300 the whole night, this is for the late session.



The early session always got no girls. The mummy will frantically look for ladies and by the time when they arrive, you're about to leave and yet you need to pay the full price.



One mummy ever quoted me 500 SGD for a very pretty girl just to sit with you and 1000 SGD for me to bring the girl back home. I know of a friend who paid 1,500 SGD to up the girl. My friends and I always complain about that place.



In my opinion, Palace 8 sells itself as a 5 star KTV with a zero star fun - something is just missing there.



With pleasure,
Notary

[newbie85]

Here's my 2 cents worth on Palace 8. This is a KTV that I would never station myself in unless I am needed there for entertainment purposes. Bro newbie is right, a girl sits with you for 300 the whole night, this is for the late session.



The early session always got no girls. The mummy will frantically look for ladies and by the time when they arrive, you're about to leave and yet you need to pay the full price.



One mummy ever quoted me 500 SGD for a very pretty girl just to sit with you and 1000 SGD for me to bring the girl back home. I know of a friend who paid 1,500 SGD to up the girl. My friends and I always complain about that place.



In my opinion, Palace 8 sells itself as a 5 star KTV with a zero star fun - something is just missing there.



With pleasure,
Notary

Totally agree with your view. 1500 just to up the girl is madness! :eek:

[PeroPero]

Thanks for the updates on this joint!
Seems another HIGH-END KTV like TAM, LV and Lido Palace. :D

[PeroPero]

300 to book the girl to sit with you. No butterfly. Playability zero, just chit chat and play dice. The last time i went, instead of the girl entertaining me, it was the other way round. :D

Well, gotta say that the girl's quality are top notch though. :p

Upzzz for the info and feedback on this joint. :p

[PeroPero]

In my opinion, Palace 8 sells itself as a 5 star KTV with a zero star fun - something is just missing there.

With pleasure,
Notary

Will upzzz you once I regain my power. Thanks for the info and feedback on this joint. :p

[newbie85]

Upzzz for the info and feedback on this joint. :p

Thanks for the up. Shall return in due course once I recover. :D

[Feilong1970]

Here's my 2 cents worth on Palace 8. This is a KTV that I would never station myself in unless I am needed there for entertainment purposes. Bro newbie is right, a girl sits with you for 300 the whole night, this is for the late session.



The early session always got no girls. The mummy will frantically look for ladies and by the time when they arrive, you're about to leave and yet you need to pay the full price.



One mummy ever quoted me 500 SGD for a very pretty girl just to sit with you and 1000 SGD for me to bring the girl back home. I know of a friend who paid 1,500 SGD to up the girl. My friends and I always complain about that place.



In my opinion, Palace 8 sells itself as a 5 star KTV with a zero star fun - something is just missing there.



With pleasure,
Notary


LOL yes. pocket not deep enough better dun go. I went there once, 2hrs also charged 300 no butterfly. But honestly speaking, you can close one eye also will find someone that will suit you. Their girst standard really not bad IMHO.

[andyk]

Here's my 2 cents worth on Palace 8. This is a KTV that I would never station myself in unless I am needed there for entertainment purposes. Bro newbie is right, a girl sits with you for 300 the whole night, this is for the late session.



The early session always got no girls. The mummy will frantically look for ladies and by the time when they arrive, you're about to leave and yet you need to pay the full price.



One mummy ever quoted me 500 SGD for a very pretty girl just to sit with you and 1000 SGD for me to bring the girl back home. I know of a friend who paid 1,500 SGD to up the girl. My friends and I always complain about that place.



In my opinion, Palace 8 sells itself as a 5 star KTV with a zero star fun - something is just missing there.



With pleasure,
Notary

=> There's a Mamasan E that used to be very popular @ LV & Tam Complex have calling to support her @ Palace 8 since it opened...Managed to see some photos of the place,looked classy ( still prefer Lido Palace ! )... Anyway I also heard that there are not many babes there ( hate tis kind of situation ! )...anyway most of the pretty babes are call & rush over from Tam Complex ! :rolleyes:

[andyk]

300 to book the girl to sit with you. No butterfly. Playability zero, just chit chat and play dice. The last time i went, instead of the girl entertaining me, it was the other way round

Well, gotta say that the girl's quality are top notch though.

=> Really hate those Mamasan ( esp tat PRC Butch Mamasan Michelle @ Tam Complex - btw wonder what happened to her ? Have not seen her for a long time already ! ) that will tell U that tis gal booking - $300 or ST - $1000 ( because she's top model in PRC etc )...WTF !!! :mad:

Or once U show some interest or lust in the PRC Gal,she actually dun hint but demand that U give her more tips than other gals in the room....then whatever fun is gone ! And if I have to entertain the girl ( top notch or not ) instead of the other way round,I will get Mamasan to change her immediately ! :(

But if the girl sat with U from 930pm till 130am,of course she deserved more tips according to the hours plus how good she was with U ! ;)

[newbie85]

Will upzzz you once I regain my power. Thanks for the info and feedback on this joint. :p

Return with my humble 3 points. :p

[newbie85]

=> Really hate those Mamasan ( esp tat PRC Butch Mamasan Michelle @ Tam Complex - btw wonder what happened to her ? Have not seen her for a long time already ! ) that will tell U that tis gal booking - $300 or ST - $1000 ( because she's top model in PRC etc )...WTF !!! :mad:

Or once U show some interest or lust in the PRC Gal,she actually dun hint but demand that U give her more tips than other gals in the room....then whatever fun is gone ! And if I have to entertain the girl ( top notch or not ) instead of the other way round,I will get Mamasan to change her immediately ! :(

But if the girl sat with U from 930pm till 130am,of course she deserved more tips according to the hours plus how good she was with U ! ;)

Gotta agree. Some mamasan are quite a nuisance and mood spoiler. :mad:

[PeroPero]

In my opinion, Palace 8 sells itself as a 5 star KTV with a zero star fun - something is just missing there.

With pleasure,
Notary

+7 for the info and feedback! :D

[andyk]

Gotta agree. Some mamasan are quite a nuisance and mood spoiler. :mad:

=> Btw which Mamasan U used @ Palace 8 ? Think there's a matured local one ( that used to be from Kabuki ) that's not too bad ! But have yet to catch up with her there ! Also know another matured PRC one that's also good ! Actually most important is how they manage the girls and the billing ! ;)

[Notary]

Anyone here with recent special experience(s) with the Singapore KTV market? Haven't been back for quite some time (:

[Notary]

Bros who think that this KTV Bible is of good use, feel free to visit my other write up regarding The Liar's Dice game that's being widely played in the KTV.



http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showthread.php?t=526467



Thank you.

[amazingknight]

Thanks Bro Notary for the guide. Very informative for newbie like me :D

[tunabun]

First off Bro GJ on the guide.
very useful for someone like me who very noob in this scene.

Any recommends for solo or low budget fun?

[Notary]

Thanks Bro Notary for the guide. Very informative for newbie like me :D



Bro amazingknight,



Pleasure is all mine.



First off Bro GJ on the guide.
very useful for someone like me who very noob in this scene.

Any recommends for solo or low budget fun?



Bro tunabun,



May I assume that when you say solo / low budget fun, are you referring to the KTV scene too?

[tunabun]

Yea ktv pub/bar anything lol juz looking for a place to chill and drink after work.

i usually go wif friens but now alot of got family so abit hard to gather.
thats y i m asking any bros here got any recommendations?

[KenTheButler]

Oh my god the KTVlogy!!!

[Notary]

Yea ktv pub/bar anything lol juz looking for a place to chill and drink after work.

i usually go wif friens but now alot of got family so abit hard to gather.
thats y i m asking any bros here got any recommendations?



Bro tunabun,



Then it would have to depend on what kind of fun you're looking for and what is your definition of low budget.



China Dolls KTV (http://www.chinadollktv.com) @ 1 Sophia Road #07-01 Peace Centre is one of the low budget fun - girls going at only 30 SGD per butterfly. Sound system not half bad at all.



Instead of you doing the singing and if you want someone to sing for you. You could visit live music bars and hog the table with 1 pint of beer.


Acid Bar (https://www.facebook.com/AcidBarSG)
Harry's Bar (http://harrys.com.sg)



Alternatively, if you are the man that goes straight for the hole, you could always check out FL Dome 2 (http://www.sammyboyforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=28)for some low budget China bonks.

[Tomley]

this is briliant.....thanks!

Could notary bro advise some ktvs good for individual person going?

Thanks again for this...

[Notary]

this is briliant.....thanks!

Could notary bro advise some ktvs good for individual person going?

Thanks again for this...




Bro Tomley,



Actually, as long as you have cash, any KTV is good for you to go alone. They will wash your feet with milk and clean your body with Bird's Nest :p
For me, I prefer KTV fun with company, especially with brothers.

[asiroj]

what would be the typical cost for going alone?

[LiNpEh]

Anyone here with recent special experience(s) with the Singapore KTV market? Haven't been back for quite some time (:

dont think it has changed much... P8 / Lido all 300 for the night and gals dont butterfly.. sometimes you are lucky n get a few thats plays and at times crappy dead fishes who thinks the whole world owes them a living... these i toss out in bout say 4 secs.. wont recommend prestige now due to the recent case of ktv gal who passed on there... perhaps her spirit is still hovering around and of course garmet will be watching...

cheap places as usual at peace centre and surprising club 1 gals aint all that bad afterall.. what i like is that they also can play and they butterfly.. 150 x 2 and boom i get 2 for the price of 1....

this comes a month late so i guess by now you would have caught up already... but heh.. better late den never..

have fun~~

[LiNpEh]

what would be the typical cost for going alone?

all depends on where you are going and what you are drinking...

[Notary]

what would be the typical cost for going alone?



Depends on what you drink, how many girls you choose, what you want the girls to do and what kind of room you want.


1. One tower of beer, 132 SGD
2. One butterfly girl, 30 SGD
3. Transport, 23 SGD


TOTAL: 185 SGD




this comes a month late so i guess by now you would have caught up already... but heh.. better late den never..




Thanks for the info bro.

[Uncle2015]

Urgent help needed

Last minute thing, need to bring my ABC (American born Chinese) cousin, who doesn't speak Mandarin, for night orientation. Budget for 2 pax for 2-3 hours, inclusive of drinks, girls n maybe songs, around $400 in total.

May I ask for suggestion ? Kamsia

[Notary]

Urgent help needed

Last minute thing, need to bring my ABC (American born Chinese) cousin, who doesn't speak Mandarin, for night orientation. Budget for 2 pax for 2-3 hours, inclusive of drinks, girls n maybe songs, around $400 in total.

May I ask for suggestion ? Kamsia


Bro Uncle2015,


http://www.sammyboysexforum.com/showthread.php?t=415388

[Uncle2015]

Bro Uncle2015,


http://www.sammyboysexforum.com/showthread.php?t=415388

Thank you bro Notary.

Hope it's still around as the post is 1-2 years ago, earlier I heard some lifespan is very short. Have you been there ? Read one post said the girls are a hit and miss.

Anyway, thank you for fast response.

[Notary]

Bro Uncle2015,



Hope your orientation went well.



With pleasure,
Notary

[Mulos]

Hi Bro Notary

What places do you advice if friends are going for HH? Or alternatively, do you have any place in mind if let's say you are on a tighter budget this month?

Thanks in advance btw, and what a concise yet informative writeup you have there. Loved every bit of it. Cheers.

[Notary]

Hi Bro Notary

What places do you advice if friends are going for HH? Or alternatively, do you have any place in mind if let's say you are on a tighter budget this month?

Thanks in advance btw, and what a concise yet informative writeup you have there. Loved every bit of it. Cheers.



Bro Mulos,



Thanks for your kind words.
You need to be more specific, for example let me know how much money we are talking about for that tight budget and also what do you want to achieve out of your KTV session.



Should you want to chat, feel free to add me on my WeChat account. ID is QCWHOLESALE



Cheers!

[Uncle2015]

Bro Uncle2015,



Hope your orientation went well.



With pleasure,
Notary

Hi Notary, sorry for the belated reply.

Read somewhere, you're Dr Tua Gong Psychologist. Hat off to you.

That night, we went for a drinks at a microbrewery near Jln Besar. Nice place, a mixed of local n ang moh customers.

We then realised we were already in the hub of nightlife, hence, we didn't proceed to Balestier. Went in Little Angel KTV (in Chinese). Ground floor is Karaoke with 3 dragon ladies boringly playing handphone as no customer. We requested for a room and ushered to higher floor.

Damages :
Drinks $130 for 3 jugs of beers, kind of minimum consumption rule
Viet $30/buttetfly
Waiters $10/staff

The butterflies are moonlighting as they have fulltime job, so they left around 2am, the time the outlet closes.

Butterflies, so they hop from room to room. All in all, they came in 3 times. Only the first they stayed more than 20min, 2nd time 5min, last time come in to collect fee when we settled bills.

Wanted to tip more as one was very sporting but restrained by advice here not to spoil the market.

Waiters "did" their part after we rejected 2 rounds of butterfly selection. They thot we never enter flower garden, couldn't tell moth from butterfly.

The night was good. Butterflies are chatty, speak English and Mandarin, fit our linguistic needs.

Mission accomplished.

You are not just counsellor, you are "tour guide" too. Support you.

[Notary]

You are not just counsellor, you are "tour guide" too. Support you.



Hi Bro,



Thanks for all the kind words. I'm happy you got your time of fun with your friends. Party with you when I come back to Singapore or come party with me if you come to Shenzhen.



Cheers!

[Dick Trainee]

Nice read, just like something out of a Guru book. You can start a For Dummies series. :D

Compile some life experience and sell as ebook. Even at $1 a copy, you can still make a lot. haha.

[Notary]

Nice read, just like something out of a Guru book. You can start a For Dummies series. :D

Compile some life experience and sell as ebook. Even at $1 a copy, you can still make a lot. haha.



Thanks for the suggestion, Bro Dick Trainee.

[Uncle2015]

Hi Bro,

Thanks for all the kind words. I'm happy you got your time of fun with your friends. Party with you when I come back to Singapore or come party with me if you come to Shenzhen.

Cheers!

Thanks Bro Notary. I will look for the opportunity.

[Notary]

Thanks Bro Notary. I will look for the opportunity.



Thanks for the +1 up bro :cool:

[ad3088]

Palace 8 got any Vietnamese girls?

[Tomley]

would love to go to ktv with a bro like you!

[Notary]

Palace 8 got any Vietnamese girls?



Bro ad3088,


Rarely, but when they do, the Viet Hostess is most likely very pretty and can communicate in mandarin.


would love to go to ktv with a bro like you!



Bro Tomley,



Come to China, we party together.

[damong777]

Walao...u never jio me go

[Notary]

Walao...u never jio me go



Haha bro, come to China, I roll out red carpet for you.

[damong777]

Haha bro, come to China, I roll out red carpet for you.

When I settle my stuff sg let u know.

If u in town, we go coffee

[piggylove]

Just curious, I heard from my friends that KTV girls usually aint that playable during HH because they wont wanna drink that much (so that they can work SH), is that true?

[damong777]

Just curious, I heard from my friends that KTV girls usually aint that playable during HH because they wont wanna drink that much (so that they can work SH), is that true?

Really depends. If u r willing to pao even sh, no problem. And also depends on business during hh, no business no choice drink if customer can change gal easily.

[piggylove]

Really depends. If u r willing to pao even sh, no problem. And also depends on business during hh, no business no choice drink if customer can change gal easily.

I was thinking of just bao-ing the girl for HH, but afraid cant even play at all and waste money. :(

Any tips?

[newbie85]

I was thinking of just bao-ing the girl for HH, but afraid cant even play at all and waste money. :(

Any tips?

If the girl not playable in first round, why would you bao her in the first place? :confused:

[LiNpEh]

I was thinking of just bao-ing the girl for HH, but afraid cant even play at all and waste money. :(

Any tips?

HH can also play.. depends on where u r at and who u are with.. if you are also willing to take her for SH... then your chances increase:p

[piggylove]

If the girl not playable in first round, why would you bao her in the first place? :confused:

what do you mean by first round? you mean ask her sit down to test water and if not playable then dont bao? That means I have to prepare a few $30 tips before i can find the right one?

Sorry for all these newbie questions, haven been to one but going to in a few weeks time.

[LiNpEh]

what do you mean by first round? you mean ask her sit down to test water and if not playable then dont bao? That means I have to prepare a few $30 tips before i can find the right one?

Sorry for all these newbie questions, haven been to one but going to in a few weeks time.

depends on where you go... and its all trial and error... sometimes u get lucky and at other times you dont.. and yes u will need to bring moola if you wanna play... :rolleyes:

[piggylove]

depends on where you go... and its all trial and error... sometimes u get lucky and at other times you dont.. and yes u will need to bring moola if you wanna play... :rolleyes:

I'm joining to CJ. haha! yea i'm bringing 250+ to play, its enough right? :confused:

[exabots]

Hi Bros

I need your opinion.

Met a gal from China who work in KTV like Dynasty. We met like once or twice before she claims to fall in love with me and wanted to be married to me. She appears to be demure when we hang out. She says she hardly drink in China and she only entertain the client at KTV by drinking in Singapore. No physical contact. After reading this forum, this seems credible. We are getting registered at ROM.

Your golden rule number 1 seems convincing, it has persuaded me to cancel my appointment at ROM. But she claims that this cancellation of marriage appointment may result in her not being able to come here to work in KTV due to possible records at the government. I am at a loss now.

[Satki2]

A very interesting and sensible write up by notary. Excerpts are very true and the advices given will truly come in handy for newbirds. Could have avoided being a carrot head if I come across his posts earlier. But.... Late is better than never! ;)

[Notary]

A very interesting and sensible write up by notary. Excerpts are very true and the advices given will truly come in handy for newbirds. Could have avoided being a carrot head if I come across his posts earlier. But.... Late is better than never! ;)



Hello Bro Satki2,



I'm glad that you find this post useful. Feel free to share it with your newbird friends. Cheers!



With pleasure,
Notary

[masakio_1]

Hi have not been in the KTV scene for a long time. Is v3 still "go-able" now? Is it as fun as the old times?

[outonbail]

Bro tunabun,



Then it would have to depend on what kind of fun you're looking for and what is your definition of low budget.



China Dolls KTV (http://www.chinadollktv.com) @ 1 Sophia Road #07-01 Peace Centre is one of the low budget fun - girls going at only 30 SGD per butterfly. Sound system not half bad at all.



Instead of you doing the singing and if you want someone to sing for you. You could visit live music bars and hog the table with 1 pint of beer.


Acid Bar (https://www.facebook.com/AcidBarSG)
Harry's Bar (http://harrys.com.sg)



Alternatively, if you are the man that goes straight for the hole, you could always check out FL Dome 2 (http://www.sammyboyforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=28)for some low budget China bonks.

Hi I am looking for women to grind but not a good drinker. Any recommendations?

[outonbail]

What is hh and sh?

[bigbigbigbird]

happy hour
sad hour (means normal hours)

[leonleonli]

I like the last advice "Life is short, chiong ah!"

[Veron04]

Miss those times when ktv full of sg local syts and malaysian syts.
For tips of $50 they will strip naked and anything goes in the ktv room.. guys please stop going to the hang flower joints. Bring back the market of sg ktv girls.

[Notary]

I like the last advice "Life is short, chiong ah!"



lol yes, chionging is very important! :p

[Notary]

HH = Happy Hour
SH = Standard Hour or Sad Hour

[Intel Ops]

Hi Bros

I need your opinion.

.................................................. ..

Your golden rule number 1 seems convincing, it has persuaded me to cancel my appointment at ROM. But she claims that this cancellation of marriage appointment may result in her not being able to come here to work in KTV due to possible records at the government. I am at a loss now.

Don't worry, she is just mind f*cking you. Making use of you only when she is more concerned about her well being by having such comment on "records".

[Notary]

Hi Bros

I need your opinion.


Hi Bro exabots,



I'm sorry that I've missed your post. I won't be dancing in joy because you have cancelled your marriage registration, I'm sure you have decided to marry that girl because you have feelings for her and the cancellation must have bitten your heart in one way or another, so I'm sorry that you're going through this. I'm just glad that my write up has bought you more time, more time to think with clarity.



Anyway, the cancellation of marriage appointment is not a crime, I don't see why she will be banned from coming to Singapore again. In fact, ROM (Singapore) is not very anal with a lot of things, go and understand more @ (www.rom.gov.sg).



Kind of hope that you'll see this post because I'm very curious on your current situation. My golden advise #1 is something that everyone should stick to. Question is, why want to shoot yourself on the foot? Choose a normal girl, yes, the normal girl could be bad too but choosing a whore is like wanting to buy fresh apple from the rubbish bin of a fruit stall.

[Steventan]

Hi guys,
Thanks for the info & lively exchanges; I have yet to step into a ktv though.

[Notary]

Hi guys,
Thanks for the info & lively exchanges; I have yet to step into a ktv though.



Hello Bro Steventan,



Welcome to the KTV world. Let us know when you're intending to step in, maybe some bros here can celebrate together with you.

[silentkira]

Bro Notary, just curious. For mummy joints would you recommend we give the mummy tips at the start or at the end? Some people say if you give at the start mummy will service you better.

[Notary]

Bro Notary, just curious. For mummy joints would you recommend we give the mummy tips at the start or at the end? Some people say if you give at the start mummy will service you better.




Hello Bro silentkira,


My recommendation is that you always give them a "hope" that you're able to give them tips above and beyond the market rate. Therefore, always give at the end.

[silentkira]

Hello Bro silentkira,


My recommendation is that you always give them a "hope" that you're able to give them tips above and beyond the market rate. Therefore, always give at the end.

Ok noted. Thanks!

[unclewang12345]

give them tips at the end so that they know they need to serve you well in order for them to get a reasonable tips:D

[Notary]

I usually find the one I like and upfront ask if she can play n I m v naughty! If yes, bao. If not move on. Sometimes the gal end up not so playful then I Nego nicely n tip her $30, telling her no need come back.

Good thing about bao is u get the gal who session and if u like her, can always call her in future:)



Agree with you bro Knightriderz! It's always smarter to "bao" the girl throughout your session - you'll get most of the fun.

[Hiroshi85]

Any recommended viet ktv to intro? And price as well

[damong777]

Any recommended viet ktv to intro? And price as well

Read my signature...got a number of places for each budget

[Notary]

Read my signature...got a number of places for each budget



Haha bro, it's really good that you've written that Short Guide to Viet KTVs. Now if any SBF bros ask I just point to your signature can already! :D

[damong777]

Haha bro, it's really good that you've written that Short Guide to Viet KTVs. Now if any SBF bros ask I just point to your signature can already! :D

Yupz.

Need to update that soon.

[brownmason]

Thank you for all the info

[latteboy]

Nice post bro.

Find myself laughing at the steps and things you heard coz everyone, everywhere say the same words. :D

Can't wait for my next KTV.
Maybe you can do list of guys you see in KTV, or the type of gilrs you see in KTV. Hahaha.

[Notary]

Nice post bro.

Find myself laughing at the steps and things you heard coz everyone, everywhere say the same words. :D




Ya bro, it's usually the same game played by different people. Same shit, different day. :p

[Atlcetlc]

Miss those times when ktv full of sg local syts and malaysian syts.
For tips of $50 they will strip naked and anything goes in the ktv room.. guys please stop going to the hang flower joints. Bring back the market of sg ktv girls.
Couldnt agree with you more! Emperor now got new sexy sg commando. Looking for 3 or 4 bros for fun session on Thur 17 Dec. Aiming to start ard 8pm. Interested pls pm me.

[sooperdick]

The KTV Bible - All You Need to Know When Chionging in a KTV



5.0 Golden Advice


Don't fall in love with a KTV girl or Mummy, it's complicated
On average, a person lies about 13 times a week. In a KTV session, a person could lie 13 times
What was said will not be so the next day due to the influence of alcohol
Play within your financial means
Play, but don't forget your family
Do not over tip, don't spoil the market
You don't have to bottoms up when you are not comfortable to do so
Your health is more important than your face
Always get a valet if you drive
Life is short, chiong ah!



With pleasure,
Notary
Sheer experience, hats off to you bro.:cool::cool:

[gl_cowboy]

HI all,

Out of curiosity, is there any KTV (not Thai discos/hangflower joint) that have Thai girls?

Searched for sometime already but can't find any.

Many thanks for any info.

[kiko]

Don't think have any thai gals

[Notary]

HI all,

Out of curiosity, is there any KTV (not Thai discos/hangflower joint) that have Thai girls?

Searched for sometime already but can't find any.

Many thanks for any info.


Actually there are, but they are rare. These Thai girls pop by once in awhile to the various KTVs to try to luck. Out of 100 girls maybe only 3 are Thai.

[cantour]

What a Bible! this is one of the best post i've read.
Must share to my bro who's getting addictive on ktv

[acedm]

HI all,

Out of curiosity, is there any KTV (not Thai discos/hangflower joint) that have Thai girls?

Searched for sometime already but can't find any.

Many thanks for any info.

Think emperor sometime have but limited

[DannyW]

I think V6 at Sultan plaza has Thai girls at the bar area. That was during my visit few months back.

[apache]

great writeup

I am very new to KTV and thanks for the advice

I came across a few KTV gals whom I met outside and I like and they are on student passes. However hard I please them and try they refuse to go to the hotel with me. I have no problem getting gals to hotels except for these few, even offering them $400. I faint

[apache]

They say they are happy earning $280 to $300 per ES, not keen to do hotel

[reloaded]

Bro there is no such thing like don't go. As Long the price is right. Recently I Kenna KC by one . This girl damn good. Make me spent a few k on her then let me upped her. In the end she got Husband one in Singapore. Anyway still thinking wanna upload her photo. Heheheh but like damn Chek ark

[restlessDD]

Good write bro.. am not a ktv person now but the future is unknown :)

[apache]

Bro there is no such thing like don't go. As Long the price is right. Recently I Kenna KC by one . This girl damn good. Make me spent a few k on her then let me upped her. In the end she got Husband one in Singapore. Anyway still thinking wanna upload her photo. Heheheh but like damn Chek ark

Why not? At least we be careful n avoid when we bump into her

[Notary]

Good write bro.. am not a ktv person now but the future is unknown :)


:p

Hope this article will help you with your possible ventures into the KTV world in future.

[kopigaogao]

Any kakis here got 1 more headcount for HH today at PRC joint, best if at Peace Centre either Jade or Chinadoll KTV.

Light beer drinker.

Pm if available

[Notary]

Any kakis here got 1 more headcount for HH today at PRC joint, best if at Peace Centre either Jade or Chinadoll KTV.

Light beer drinker.

Pm if available



How was your session at Jade / CD the other day bro? :D

[Notary]

Hello Bro $$$$$$$$$$$,


Technically speaking, if you have booked the girl with 150 SGD, she is to fulfil her obligation towards you even after ST. If she insist that she doesn't want to go back into the KTV room, there's nothing much you could have done. If you force her, she might give attitude during your party session, and if there's attitude given, the mood might be affected.


Solution:


Don't pay money first. Once done with ST, give 200 SGD, if she ask for 150 SGD for the booking fee, tell her that she only fulfilled butterfly status and then pay accordingly.


:)

Any bros can enlighten me?

Bao tai a girl at Jade last night, half way through the session my cock itchy went to ST with her at her apartment upstairs.

After the ST, she claims that she damn paiseh dun want go back liao, want stay in her room. She claims that no one will go back to the KTV after ST. It was quite impromptu and her roomie coming back soon so i got to leave. Though she suggested to meet up another day for a date and when her roomie will be away for the entire day.

Felt kena carrot head, paid her 150 for booking + 200 for ST in total.

[Notary]

Any special happenings in the Singapore KTV scene nowadays? I've been overseas for quite some time already, lost touch of the SG happenings.

[Satay123]

1) RS KTV now damn cuiz. Minimum tips is $30. Viet joint
2) Phoenix KTV getting hotter liao and more chiobus around. Minimum tips is $30. Viet joint
3) V6 KTV. Minimum tips is $50. Playability damn high (i almost f the girl on the spot)

:D

[moonhawk]

1) RS KTV now damn cuiz. Minimum tips is $30. Viet joint
2) Phoenix KTV getting hotter liao and more chiobus around. Minimum tips is $30. Viet joint
3) V6 KTV. Minimum tips is $50. Playability damn high (i almost f the girl on the spot)

:D
Bro, can PM me the mummy contact? Planning to visit.

[Oneminman]

Hello Bro $$$$$$$$$$$,


Technically speaking, if you have booked the girl with 150 SGD, she is to fulfil her obligation towards you even after ST. If she insist that she doesn't want to go back into the KTV room, there's nothing much you could have done. If you force her, she might give attitude during your party session, and if there's attitude given, the mood might be affected.


Solution:


Don't pay money first. Once done with ST, give 200 SGD, if she ask for 150 SGD for the booking fee, tell her that she only fulfilled butterfly status and then pay accordingly.


:)

Yup this is true...If you nv bao tai her but she just came in to sit you ask for ST and go ahead by right u aso dun need to give her bao tai $$ anymore unless she really fulfil sitting with you whole night...Tips if you noe you gng to get itchy dun bao tai lol...just pick a random you tink can F one den go ahead and sit and ask for ST..rather den pay extra more den wait the gal ask u for the bao tai $$ you aso dunno wat to say..

[Notary]

Yup this is true...If you nv bao tai her but she just came in to sit you ask for ST and go ahead by right u aso dun need to give her bao tai $$ anymore unless she really fulfil sitting with you whole night...Tips if you noe you gng to get itchy dun bao tai lol...just pick a random you tink can F one den go ahead and sit and ask for ST..rather den pay extra more den wait the gal ask u for the bao tai $$ you aso dunno wat to say..


Money hard to earn. We need to pay only when we NEED to. :)

[Imfirecracker]

1) RS KTV now damn cuiz. Minimum tips is $30. Viet joint
2) Phoenix KTV getting hotter liao and more chiobus around. Minimum tips is $30. Viet joint
3) V6 KTV. Minimum tips is $50. Playability damn high (i almost f the girl on the spot)

:D

Phoniex is HH 4jugs. I usually cant finish them

[giggz83]

Great guide by Bro Notary.. reminds me of the SG KTV scenes many years back, when there are still "standards", and also those few DG trips

:p .. upp you points!

[Notary]

Great guide by Bro Notary.. reminds me of the SG KTV scenes many years back, when there are still "standards", and also those few DG trips

:p .. upp you points!



Thanks for the support bro! (:

[Notary]

I would like to wish all readers a very Happy Lunar New Year! Good wealth, great health and a joyful year of the Chicken! 鸡年快乐，万事如意，身体健康，心想事成！

[s@ms@m]

After realising many has read tis thread… I dug out my old post… juz for sharing…
For those who joining others for KTV session…unless u go alone, tis rule doesn't apply…



Standards Rules...

- Dun run tips! Or sat with Multiple girls then dun give tips
- Dun fly aeroplane
- Dun act blur or Drunk...den MIA
- Even if you r very late, still must pay your share, no partial payment juz becoz u r there for last 1-2hr (coz in the first plc u agreed to join)
- If you dun drink... still must pay
- If you drink alot, appreciate you offer to buy another tower/jug for yourself
- If u going off early, state ur intention and pay upfront including girl tips before u leave

For points 2 & 4, it is becoz sometimes, organiser may upgrade the room size becoz of you. That means extra $$$ or different package, if you fly plane or expect to pay less, the organiser is very difficult to explain to the rest of the bros.
Point 1 & 3 is unacceptable and there r some bastards who did tat... I wonder how can they do that without feeling guilty as the girls r here to earn $$$ not find love or to be played out. Of coz there are black sheep out there… and there is even a thread that expose these bastards…Karma will get back to u somehow…
If dun like the girl… juz give her minimum & move on next…

And lastly...Pay up and enjoy ... tats all...
Hope it compliment wat bro Notary has written…

[Hakoshu]

Well said.. I had met a few of such ppl before. It's :mad:




Standards Rules...

- Dun run tips! Or sat with Multiple girls then dun give tips
- Dun fly aeroplane
- Dun act blur or Drunk...den MIA
- Even if you r very late, still must pay your share, no partial payment juz becoz u r there for last 1-2hr (coz in the first plc u agreed to join)
- If you dun drink... still must pay
- If you drink alot, appreciate you offer to buy another tower/jug for yourself
- If u going off early, state ur intention and pay upfront including girl tips before u leave

For points 2 & 4, it is becoz sometimes, organiser may upgrade the room size becoz of you. That means extra $$$ or different package, if you fly plane or expect to pay less, the organiser is very difficult to explain to the rest of the bros.
Point 1 & 3 is unacceptable and there r some bastards who did tat... I wonder how can they do that without feeling guilty as the girls r here to earn $$$ not find love or to be played out. Of coz there are black sheep out there… and there is even a thread that expose these bastards…Karma will get back to u somehow…
If dun like the girl… juz give her minimum & move on next…

And lastly...Pay up and enjoy ... tats all...
Hope it compliment wat bro Notary has written…

[Notary]

Well said.. I had met a few of such ppl before. It's :mad:



These people can party with us once, cheat our money once but never twice.

[outonbail]

sorry. noob question. what happens in ktv before 530pm?

[Notary]

sorry. noob question. what happens in ktv before 530pm?



Cleaning
Attendance Check
Staff Meeting
Stock Taking
Mummys making sure that they have clients coming

[boyboy85]

wow didnt know there is a bible for KTV... hahaha.. but GLAD there is one.. hope to join in for future KTV sessions :D

[helmsley]

Seems that the current batch of KTVs aren't the same standard as they used to be. Remember the one at Eminent Plaza which was already torn down? That was the real deal with so much crazy happenings there.

[Myank33]

I need girl for fun & intimate at nearsunway loogun spa & reshort on 17 may.

[Notary]

I need girl for fun & intimate at nearsunway loogun spa & reshort on 17 may.


You are asking in the wrong department.

[outonbail]

Cleaning
Attendance Check
Staff Meeting
Stock Taking
Mummys making sure that they have clients coming

I mean what happens when customers comes in that time? Still got happy happy?

[Deylan]

One of the easiest to comprehend guide to KTVs. Very good job TS!

[folento]

Wish I read this earlier.

Thank you TS

[megaburger]

Thanks for the tips and guide bro! kudos to you!