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20-07-2014, 05:20 PM
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Putin's arseluck was having so many Dutch passengers on that flight. There is a reason why the International Criminal Court is based in Hague. Even though Russia is not a ratifying member but it shows the tenacity of the Dutch to pursue criminals who commit crime against humanity. And they do it patiently.
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20 July 2014 Last updated at 08:26
........Dutch PM Mark Rutte said he had told Russian President Vladimir Putin that time was "running out" to show he could help. Most crash victims were Dutch.
In a news conference on Saturday, Mr Rutte said he had had an "intense" phone call with Mr Putin.
"I told him 'Time is running out for you to show the world that you have good intentions','' Mr Rutte said.
He added that Dutch people were "furious" at pictures of bodies being carried across the open country, and called on the Russian president "to show that he will do what is expected of him and will exert his influence".
The BBC's Richard Galpin at the site says he saw bodies being removed by emergency workers, but it was not clear where they were being taken, or whether the workers were loyal to the rebels or the Kiev government.
The OSCE monitors were forced to walk to the field where the plane crashed
At the main site the bodies were without covering. Some lay alone. Others were grouped together amid the twisted metal, the bags and cases, the child's playing cards, the guide books, the laptop computer, the duty free whiskey bottle, the woman's hat.
A militiaman with the nickname "Grumpy" - he was squat and barrel-chested with poor teeth and carried a machine gun - harangued me when I asked if the rebels would now stop fighting.
"You are only here because foreigners are dead," he said. And the old story was repeated, the same I have heard on numerous roadblocks - the Western media were all capitalists doing the bidding of their American and EU masters.
When the OSCE turned up in a convoy "Grumpy" came into his own. Now he was a man of power. He halted the OSCE and told them they would have to go forward on foot.
Standoff with militia at crash site
German Chancellor Angela Merkel also spoke to Mr Putin on Saturday, urging his co-operation.
Monitors from the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) are at the crash site.
OSCE spokesman Michael Bociurkiw said access had improved compared to Friday and that the monitors were seeing parts of the terrain they had not seen before, but that their movements were still being restricted.
The monitors are there to observe the site ahead of the arrival of international investigators.
'Act of terrorism'
Tougher EU sanctions against Russia will be needed if Moscow does not change its "approach" to the downing of the plane, UK Prime Minister David Cameron has indicated.
He said the EU should stand up for its principles, amid claims Russia-backed rebels were involved.
Prime Minister David Cameron and his Australian counterpart Tony Abbott agreed the two countries would apply "further pressure" at the UN Security Council "for swift and unhindered access" to the site, Mr Cameron's office said.
British Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond said: "The world's eyes will be on Russia to see if she delivers on her obligations."
The UK urged Russia to use its influence over the rebels to improve access to the site
US Secretary of State John Kerry discussed the disaster in a phone conversation with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov.
Mr Kerry made clear that the US was "very concerned" over reports that bodies and debris from the site had been removed or tampered with, the state department said.
On Friday US President Barack Obama said the plane had been destroyed by a missile fired from a rebel area, and that insurgents would not be capable of carrying out such an attack without Moscow's support.
Russia denies any involvement and has rejected Western allegations that it is stoking the Ukraine conflict.
Ukraine's government has called Thursday's disaster an "act of terrorism" and released what it says are intercepted phone conversations that proved the plane was shot down by separatists.........
Click here to view the whole thread at www.sammyboy.com (http://www.singsupplies.com/showthread.php?186237-MH-17-and-the-Dutch-Equation&goto=newpost).
Putin's arseluck was having so many Dutch passengers on that flight. There is a reason why the International Criminal Court is based in Hague. Even though Russia is not a ratifying member but it shows the tenacity of the Dutch to pursue criminals who commit crime against humanity. And they do it patiently.
Quote:
20 July 2014 Last updated at 08:26
........Dutch PM Mark Rutte said he had told Russian President Vladimir Putin that time was "running out" to show he could help. Most crash victims were Dutch.
In a news conference on Saturday, Mr Rutte said he had had an "intense" phone call with Mr Putin.
"I told him 'Time is running out for you to show the world that you have good intentions','' Mr Rutte said.
He added that Dutch people were "furious" at pictures of bodies being carried across the open country, and called on the Russian president "to show that he will do what is expected of him and will exert his influence".
The BBC's Richard Galpin at the site says he saw bodies being removed by emergency workers, but it was not clear where they were being taken, or whether the workers were loyal to the rebels or the Kiev government.
The OSCE monitors were forced to walk to the field where the plane crashed
At the main site the bodies were without covering. Some lay alone. Others were grouped together amid the twisted metal, the bags and cases, the child's playing cards, the guide books, the laptop computer, the duty free whiskey bottle, the woman's hat.
A militiaman with the nickname "Grumpy" - he was squat and barrel-chested with poor teeth and carried a machine gun - harangued me when I asked if the rebels would now stop fighting.
"You are only here because foreigners are dead," he said. And the old story was repeated, the same I have heard on numerous roadblocks - the Western media were all capitalists doing the bidding of their American and EU masters.
When the OSCE turned up in a convoy "Grumpy" came into his own. Now he was a man of power. He halted the OSCE and told them they would have to go forward on foot.
Standoff with militia at crash site
German Chancellor Angela Merkel also spoke to Mr Putin on Saturday, urging his co-operation.
Monitors from the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) are at the crash site.
OSCE spokesman Michael Bociurkiw said access had improved compared to Friday and that the monitors were seeing parts of the terrain they had not seen before, but that their movements were still being restricted.
The monitors are there to observe the site ahead of the arrival of international investigators.
'Act of terrorism'
Tougher EU sanctions against Russia will be needed if Moscow does not change its "approach" to the downing of the plane, UK Prime Minister David Cameron has indicated.
He said the EU should stand up for its principles, amid claims Russia-backed rebels were involved.
Prime Minister David Cameron and his Australian counterpart Tony Abbott agreed the two countries would apply "further pressure" at the UN Security Council "for swift and unhindered access" to the site, Mr Cameron's office said.
British Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond said: "The world's eyes will be on Russia to see if she delivers on her obligations."
The UK urged Russia to use its influence over the rebels to improve access to the site
US Secretary of State John Kerry discussed the disaster in a phone conversation with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov.
Mr Kerry made clear that the US was "very concerned" over reports that bodies and debris from the site had been removed or tampered with, the state department said.
On Friday US President Barack Obama said the plane had been destroyed by a missile fired from a rebel area, and that insurgents would not be capable of carrying out such an attack without Moscow's support.
Russia denies any involvement and has rejected Western allegations that it is stoking the Ukraine conflict.
Ukraine's government has called Thursday's disaster an "act of terrorism" and released what it says are intercepted phone conversations that proved the plane was shot down by separatists.........
Click here to view the whole thread at www.sammyboy.com (http://www.singsupplies.com/showthread.php?186237-MH-17-and-the-Dutch-Equation&goto=newpost).