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shuibian
04-08-2005, 01:59 PM
Asia Buzz: Sexy Singapore?
Pushing the boundary in the control-minded city-state
By ERIC ELLIS

January 16, 2001
Web posted at 5:30 p.m. Hong Kong time, 4:30 a.m. EDT

Sammyboy.com is not a website you'd want your 11-year-old surfing into unsupervised. It's deep and content-rich, it's alluring, and, in the main, quite well-written. In places it is also funny. That's the glass half-full way of looking at it. The half-empty way is that it's lewd, crass and offensive. And that there's nothing funny about pornography.

Yes, Sammyboy is a porn site, aimed very directly at the country which arguably least tolerates porn: Singapore. Which is all very well except Official Singapore has yet to close it down. The site has been up and down, so to speak, several times over the past week, and on each occasion it was the site's webmaster, a Samuel Leong, who made the call to shut his own site down. Not the authorities.

What's happening here? Has the nanny state loosened up and is now tolerating porn? Can that be happening? As with many things in Singapore, not everything is as it seems.

Leong (if that's his real name) says he's not running a porn site. Instead he's running a community service. Sex, he says, is a bodily function that all of us at some point do, and all he's simply doing is bringing it out into the open.

I've had a close look at Sammyboy -- there, I admit it -- and I have decided that it is in fact a porn site. But one with qualifications. Where Sammyboy starts being a porn site -- and thus inviting the wrath of authorities -- is where it links to very serious porn sites, the ones that you sometimes click into by accident and then spend 10 frustrating minutes trying to close down all the recurring browsers. If Sammyboy didn't carry those links, then Leong's argument might stack up a bit more firmly.

Beyond that, Sammyboy is morphing into a kind of samizdat outlet where Singaporeans vent and satirize life in the city-state. That's another no-go area, where the government's patience has traditionally been pretty short. But if you hold your breath and dive in, the site can be pretty funny, and sometimes illuminating. There's links to information about bad Singapore Inc. investments that don't get talked about too much, a "conservative Asian values forum," and a pretty funny cartoon that speaks to the national ideology of making money.

Another taste of Sammy's sense of humor comes when you log on. A window appears warning "all SPH journalists to keep out. You are not welcome." SPH is Singapore's print media near-monopoly, the publisher of the pro-government Straits Times and New Paper. The latter, for your information, has been running a campaign to shut Sammy down. But it's a funny kind of campaign. The New Paper wrote a scolding article about the site, which simply served to lift Sammyboy's profile among the Singaporeans it warned not to surf there.

Sammy himself is a bit of a mystery. The site is hosted in California but registered to a Samuel Leong, which is kind of a Singapore Everyman name, in Auckland, New Zealand. I called the number on the registration site and spoke to a Morgan Yeo, who happened to be Singaporean but claimed to know nothing of Sammyboy, or Samuel Leong. "I just run a used car yard here," he pleaded.

So, what are authorities doing about it? So far, not much, but it's still early days. The Singapore Broadcasting Authority which regulates these things told the New Paper that "the Samuel Leong website is but one of countless number of pornographic sites on the Internet. "Given the borderless nature of the Internet and the vast number of undesirable sites on the Net, there is a limit of what legislation can do," said a spokesman.

Sites like Sammyboy test control regimes like Singapore. It's impossible to condone porn but where does it stop being porn and start being a content site. And what does it look like when the government mantra is to open up, become a media center, and then bans sites that claim not to strictly fall into the porn category?

My tip is that Singapore will jump on Sammyboy. And if Sammyboy -- or Leong -- was smart, and really wanted to make some money from advertisers, he'd take down the hardcore links and emphasis the user-guide aspect. And then he and the Singapore authorities could be talking the same language -- trying to help procreation.

pterchew
04-08-2005, 05:06 PM
there is always some loop-holes in all the law and regulation.
as long as what u do doesn't affect the pocket of our govt.,
generally they dont care much. but, if u r running an internet
with collection betting of our singapore sweep, 4D, toto or
scores, which u r hijacking the income of our govt revenue,
than u r looking for trouble. they will come after u even in the
middle of the night. WITHOUT DELAY! :rolleyes:

Peter_North
04-08-2005, 06:32 PM
Sam Leong is a whitehorse. Period.

venture
04-08-2005, 09:36 PM
there is always some loop-holes in all the law and regulation.
as long as what u do doesn't affect the pocket of our govt.,
generally they dont care much. but, if u r running an internet
with collection betting of our singapore sweep, 4D, toto or
scores, which u r hijacking the income of our govt revenue,
than u r looking for trouble. they will come after u even in the
middle of the night. WITHOUT DELAY! :rolleyes:Bro,Well Said!!! :)

sumak0
04-08-2005, 10:35 PM
sammyboy forum is a important forum for us sporean. :p

Guessguessguess
04-08-2005, 11:19 PM
3 cheers for sammyboy forum. :D

BlackKnight
05-08-2005, 02:49 AM
dun tink they will shut down tis site, else how to gather info easily & raid those places.......haiz....

libraguy75
05-08-2005, 02:53 AM
3 cheers for sammyboy forum. :D


I TOTALLY AGREED !!!

Its a very important site for the local Sporean guys....

We need the service support and like it very much !!

jackylee
05-08-2005, 06:26 AM
Another taste of Sammy's sense of humor comes when you log on. A window appears warning "all SPH journalists to keep out. You are not welcome." SPH is Singapore's print media near-monopoly, the publisher of the pro-government Straits Times and New Paper.


got meh.. i never see the pop up :o


anyway.. i dont think the authorities can do much since its not hosted in SG. :)

dickrick
05-08-2005, 09:10 AM
The Sammyboy site and this forum is telling it like it is!
It is not hypocritical like the crap newspapers and media we've been forced to stomach all these years!

Cinderella
05-08-2005, 09:28 AM
The forum will live. If want to shut down long ago already do it.

easyeasy
05-08-2005, 09:56 AM
if shut down the reporter who report this would be the first to suffer from withdrawal symdrome. he will loss his kangtao where he ask for exchange of supposingly FOC easy gers, milf, new WL, where to find ladyboy, ah qua and so on and so forth :)

DNAT
05-08-2005, 09:58 AM
I Support SammyBoy Forum

look at my avatar .. :D hope SAM will increase my reps overnite

just4fun
05-08-2005, 10:05 AM
let's hope that boss have a contingency plan in the event this forum is kana shut down... :(

waypastprime
05-08-2005, 10:12 AM
I Support SammyBoy Forum

look at my avatar .. hope SAM will increase my reps overnite

Knn. Por Lam Par again! :rolleyes:

Moreover, ask for points. Zap u!!!!!!!!

But anyway, look at my avatar too! :D

S3vw
05-08-2005, 01:59 PM
Knn. Por Lam Par again!

Moreover, ask for points. Zap u!!!!!!!!

But anyway, look at my avatar too! :D
hahahaha is a noe thing to all of us liao........ :p

Vectra
05-08-2005, 02:10 PM
I Support SammyBoy Forum

look at my avatar .. :D hope SAM will increase my reps overnite

Bro, u sure support mah. Look at ur points, collect so many, if SBF here close down you have to start from zero again leh...kekeke :D

waypastprime
05-08-2005, 02:10 PM
hahahaha is a noe thing to all of us liao........ :p

A noe thing? Which issue? That DNAT BBBJ Sam or DNAT likes to por Sam's LP? :D

DNAT
05-08-2005, 02:19 PM
That DNAT BBBJ Sam or DNAT likes to por Sam's LP? :D
Please dun TCSS here, what have you contributed to this thread? ;) full of your silly crap ..

waypastprime
05-08-2005, 02:24 PM
Please dun TCSS here, what have you contributed to this thread? ;) full of your silly crap ..

Ok, then please advise on the contributions u have made in this thread too? :rolleyes: By saying that u support sammyboy?

hearthrob
06-08-2005, 03:44 PM
Knn. Por Lam Par again! :rolleyes:

Moreover, ask for points. Zap u!!!!!!!!

But anyway, look at my avatar too!


Long time no come in, you guys are just as funny. :D

tomyam32
08-08-2005, 11:06 AM
Dear All,

Looking at the report, I think in my own opinion that the Government will definitely reacted in a certain way. Example of past cases what the government will do when they cannot get the main Culprit since Server not hosted in Singpore

They start to narrow down on user who download or visit the sites. This is so common. They will usually kill one member to warn the million other same like Kazaa, same like bookie ( Remember when they warn that they can catch pple using sms for odd, the next day, bookie no longer give out sms)

So, they would reacted the same ways

MMM88
08-08-2005, 11:15 AM
I TOTALLY AGREED !!!

Its a very important site for the local Sporean guys....

We need the service support and like it very much !!

dun forget abt all the sistas here too yah......of late...mani cha bos surf here ..... :D